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  • Testing UTF-8 name (hopefully)

    From Mikoláš Jiří Panský@2:423/81.44 to All on Fri Oct 16 10:00:24 2026
    Hello All,

    I beg my pardon. I am uncertain how to configure real name.
    I had this setup already working but then I decided to
    harden my BBS and change my Sysop account to lower privileges
    and created common user for standard mailing.

    I beg my pardon for yet another try.

    Have a good day 😉



    ... All we are, basically, is monkeys with car keys.
    ___ MultiMail/Linux v0.51


    --- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Mikoláš Jiří Panský on Fri Oct 16 10:40:54 2026
    Hello Mikoláš,

    On 16 Oct 26 10:20, you wrote to All:

    @MSGID: 2:423/81.44 7b053e87
    @TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A47
    @TZUTC: 0200

    Your name in UTF-8 in the header looks OK.

    But now the "CHRS: UTF-8 4" kludge is missong in your message.

    I beg my pardon. I am uncertain how to configure real name.

    You are getting there.

    Note:

    At some point in the evolution of Fidonet, UTF-8 may become the default character set and the "CHRS UTF-8 4" kludge may no longer be needed like "CHRS: ASCII 1" is not needed now for messages written in ASCII only. But as it is now many implementations will not work properly yet without the kludge in case of UTF-8.

    I see it properly without the kludge because my Golded is configured to use UTF-8 by default in this area.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 2.0.0-b20260928
    * Origin: Nieuw Schnøørd (2:280/5555)
  • From Nick Boel@1:154/10 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Oct 16 17:58:04 2026
    Hey Michiel!

    On Fri, Oct 16 2026 10:40:54 +0200, you wrote:

    as it is now many implementations will not work properly yet without the kludge in case of UTF-8.

    To be fair, many implementations will not work properly with or without the CHRS kludge supplied, nor will they ever be updated to do so. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Nick Boel on Sat Oct 17 10:07:22 2026
    Hello Nick,

    On 16 Oct 26 17:58, you wrote to me:

    as it is now many implementations will not work properly yet
    without the kludge in case of UTF-8.

    To be fair, many implementations will not work properly with or
    without the CHRS kludge supplied, nor will they ever be updated to do
    so. ;)

    Indeed. Some legacy stuff will never be updated to support UTF-8. Or properly support anything other than pure ASCII for that matter. Not suprprising for a museum...

    But what we may see is that the use of that old stuff will decline. In the past ten years we have seen that the software that is still updated has moved in the direction of supporting UTF-8. In that process I see the new Golded+ that now uses Unicode internally as a mayor break through.

    We see something similar with IPv6. Some old stuff like the systems that run on OS/2 or its spin-off will never be updated to support IPv6. But new systems that appear in Fidonet more and more often support IPv6.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 2.0.0-b20260928
    * Origin: Nieuw Schnøørd (2:280/5555)
  • From Nick Boel@1:154/10 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Oct 17 10:03:40 2026
    Hey Michiel!

    On Sat, Oct 17 2026 10:07:22 +0200, you wrote:

    But what we may see is that the use of that old stuff will decline. In

    Yes, as it has been for awhile now.

    the past ten years we have seen that the software that is still updated has moved in the direction of supporting UTF-8. In that process I see the new Golded+ that now uses Unicode internally as a mayor break through.

    Yep. Agreed!

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... I don't suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it.
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