Hey Jerry!

<Esc>:r /proc/version
Linux version 6.13.1 (root@amiitoo) (gcc (GCC) 14.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.43.1) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun Feb 2 04:56:59 UTC 2025

EPYCal. :-)

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hey Maurice!

On Sun, Feb 02 2025 01:26:32 -0600, you wrote:

<Esc>:r /proc/version Linux version 6.13.1 (root@amiitoo) (gcc (GCC)
14.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.43.1) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun Feb 2 04:56:59 UTC 2025

That seemed abnormally quick. Was there something wrong with the last kernel where they had to release another so fast?

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Nick!

That seemed abnormally quick.

Not really. According to kernel.org;

mainline: 6.13 2025-01-19
stable: 6.13.1 2025-02-01

Was there something wrong with the last kernel where they had to
release another so fast?

I haven't had a chance to check. It just so happened to present itself (6.13.1) when I was upgrading one of the four machines I am working on. So far twon of them are both running 6.12.11 since 6.12.12 hadn't presented itself until yesterday, which was after I upgraded them to 6.12.11. I still have one more machine to get up to date, and it will probably be a 6.12.12 kernel which is listed as 'stable'.

Just the luck of the draw is all ... I think. We'll see but so far that particular machine is behaving itself. "Little Mikey's Brain", the fidonet node is showing;

<Esc>:r /proc/version
Linux version 6.12.11 (root@itsii) (gcc (GCC) 14.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.43.1) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Jan 30 08:22:25 UTC 2025

That kernel was released on 23-Jan-2025 whereas 6.12.12 is showing 01-Feb-2025 which is two days after I upgraded that machine.

Life is good,
Maurice

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^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
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Every man will have to relinquish the days loaned to him.
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Hey Maurice!

On Sun, 02 Feb 2025 17:05:10 , you wrote ..

That seemed abnormally quick.

Not really. According to kernel.org;

mainline: 6.13 2025-01-19
stable: 6.13.1 2025-02-01

But then you had 6.12.11 on Jan 23 and 6.12.12 on Feb 1 in between? What's the reasoning with all that?

I haven't had a chance to check. It just so happened to present itself (6.13.1) when I was upgrading one of the four machines I am working on.
So far twon of them are both running 6.12.11 since 6.12.12 hadn't
presented itself until yesterday, which was after I upgraded them to 6.12.11. I still have one more machine to get up to date, and it will probably be a 6.12.12 kernel which is listed as 'stable'.

I'm guessing 6.12.x is still receiving security patches or something while 6.13.x is now currently being worked on? I don't know their versioning scheme, which is the only reason I'm asking.

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Nicholas!

But then you had 6.12.11 on Jan 23 and 6.12.12 on Feb 1 in between?
What's the reasoning with all that?

I still don't have one based on 6.12.12 ... yet. My reasoning for this is it wasn't released until after I had glibc-2.41 as an integral part of the mix here, which it now is.

I'm guessing 6.12.x is still receiving security patches or
something while 6.13.x is now currently being worked on?

That sounds about right except that there are previous releases still being supported such as;

longterm: 5.4.290 2025-02-01

which is the oldest branch (5.4) still being worked on as the above date suggests. I had issues with that branch. glibc-2.41 claims that kv 4.19.0 is the minimum supported release but it can be configured to only support newer releases if desired. I haven't had a 4.19 kernel running here for quite some time now but I figure I'll keep it as the minimum for glibc as long as there is a minimum. However new gcc's might not be so inclined. I note you are claiming gcc-14.2.1 which you might want to check as far as suitable kv's and glibc versions are concerned. So far no issues with gcc-14.2.0/glibc-2.41 that I've noticed but I am betting that a gcc-14.3.0 release isn't too far off.

Life is good,
Maurice

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^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
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Seldom does a wise man rejoice without sorrow.
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Hey Maurice!

On Sun, 02 Feb 2025 19:40:10 , you wrote:

I'm guessing 6.12.x is still receiving security patches or
something while 6.13.x is now currently being worked on?

That sounds about right except that there are previous releases still
being supported such as;

longterm: 5.4.290 2025-02-01

I can't possibly think of any _recent_ distros are still deploying this kernel version, but the LTS aspect is definitely nice for people that don't care to upgrade from older stuff, I suppose.

I note you are claiming gcc-14.2.1 which you might want to check as
far as suitable kv's and glibc versions are concerned. So far no
issues with gcc-14.2.0/glibc-2.41 that I've noticed but I am betting
that a gcc-14.3.0 release isn't too far off.

I'd imagine this is part of the reason I'm still on kv 6.12.10. Quite possible the Arch devs are already doing that checking, and may just skip a couple versions in their rolling cycle if those aren't working with what they already have released to the masses.

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Nicholas!

longterm: 5.4.290 2025-02-01

I can't possibly think of any _recent_ distros are still deploying
this kernel version

I think Android would fall into this category. I know the abandoned orange pi 5 board I have had seious problems with kv-6 which is why it sits here collecting dust.

Life is good,
Maurice

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(\ /) (\ (\
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
... Wyrd bið ful aræd.
Fate is greatly fixed.
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Hey Nicholas!

I also happen to have a couple RPi3's doing the exact same thing
(collecting dust). However, I don't remember what kernel version I
was on when I stopped using them.

Same situation here except I had an up-to-date custom gcc and friends 64-bit build (aarch64). It was cheap and satisfied my curiousity. The more serious stuff was still x86_64 at the time. As for the orange pi, I got suckered in by nvme boot as well as 16G of memory. However every attempt to liberate it failed. That turned me off and I quickly abandoned it.

I ended up getting much better hardware and going that route
instead.

I can relate.

Life is good,
Maurice

-o -o -o o-
(\ (\ (\ /)
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
... Wyrd bið ful aræd.
Fate is greatly fixed.
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Hey Maurice!

On Sun, Feb 02 2025 19:31:08 -0600, you wrote:

I can relate.

I'm a bit more caught up now. Looks like the maintainers skipped right to kv 6.13.1. Maybe, as you said, there were issues with the previous versions and the newer versions of the others already released to the masses.

$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 6.13.1-arch1-1 (linux@archlinux) (gcc (GCC) 14.2.1 20250128, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.43.1) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun, 02 Feb 2025 01:02:29 +0000

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Nick!

Linux version 6.13.1-arch1-1 (linux@archlinux) (gcc (GCC) 14.2.1 20250128, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.43.1) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun, 02 Feb 2025 01:02:29 +0000

<Esc>:r /proc/version
Linux version 6.13.1 (root@amiitoo) (gcc (GCC) 14.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.44) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed Feb 5 05:26:06 UTC 2025

You have a newer gcc but I am one step ahead with binutils. According to the main gnu site it was released 2025-02-02 which was just a couple days ago.

All I can say for sure at this point in time is that at least 1:153/7001.53423 works as this reply is evidence of. :-)

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hey Maurice!

On Thu, Feb 06 2025 02:05:24 -0600, you wrote:

Linux version 6.13.1-arch1-1 (linux@archlinux) (gcc (GCC) 14.2.1
20250128, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.43.1) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun,
02 Feb 2025 01:02:29 +0000

<Esc>:r /proc/version Linux version 6.13.1 (root@amiitoo) (gcc (GCC) 14.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.44) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed Feb 5 05:26:06 UTC 2025

You have a newer gcc but I am one step ahead with binutils. According
to the main gnu site it was released 2025-02-02 which was just a
couple days ago.

Ah, then I should probably start to expect it in the next day or two.

All I can say for sure at this point in time is that at least 1:153/7001.53423 works as this reply is evidence of. :-)

Good news! However, that's one heck of a large point number. Do you have that written down next to your keyboard so you don't forget it? ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Maurice!

On Fri, Feb 07 2025 15:26:12 -0600, you wrote:

The current plan is to update the fidonet node - Little Mikey's Brain

Sounds like you have a bit of work ahead of you.

I used to pick ones that are easy to remember given it's output in
hex, such as FACE. Converting to binary for msg headers one is forced
to use little endian. Personally I think binary data should be
excluded, especially in headers.

Right, but this one you can't recall why it had any meaning to you. I suppose, if you use anything enough it becomes easy to remember. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Nick!

Sounds like you have a bit of work ahead of you.

That's putting it mildly. I should be done with the node later this evening and possibly starting the EuroPoint. If things go smoothly all should be right by Sunday fidoally-speaking.

Life is good,
Maurice

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/) /) /) /)
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
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Anger often disturbs a man's mind so that he cannot see the right.
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Hey Maurice!

On Sat, Feb 08 2025 02:05:52 +0000, you wrote ..

That's putting it mildly. I should be done with the node later this
evening and possibly starting the EuroPoint. If things go smoothly
all should be right by Sunday fidoally-speaking.

You get to have all that fun, while I have to jump up on the roof and fix a few shingles that flew off in the 50mph winds we had yesterday.

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Nick!

You get to have all that fun,

It's reward for all the clean living I've been been forced to live lately.

while I have to jump up on the roof and fix a few shingles that
flew off in the 50mph winds we had yesterday.

Ouch! I hate when that happens.

Since you first brought up the weather we dropped to below 0C and got a couple dumps of snow. A neighbour just knocked on my door asking to borrow a ladder to fix his roof which got damaged by huge lumps of icey-snow falling from trees. I think you jinxed us or perhaps it was me claiming no snow this winter that triggered it. Either way it really sucks.

Life is good,
Maurice

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/) /) /) /)
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
... Forst sceal freosan, fyr wudu meltan, eorþe growan, is brycgian.
Frost must freeze, fire melt wood, earth grow, ice form bridges.
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Hey Maurice!

On Fri, Feb 07 2025 21:06:26 -0600, you wrote:

while I have to jump up on the roof and fix a few shingles that flew
off in the 50mph winds we had yesterday.

Ouch! I hate when that happens.

First time it's happened in 20 years. Then again, those winds were probably the worst they've been in quite some time, too.

Since you first brought up the weather we dropped to below 0C and got
a couple dumps of snow. A neighbour just knocked on my door asking
to borrow a ladder to fix his roof which got damaged by huge lumps of icey-snow falling from trees. I think you jinxed us or perhaps it
was me claiming no snow this winter that triggered it. Either way it
really sucks.

Heh, don't blame me. While it's awesome to not have a lot of snow or super cold days/weeks in places like Wisconsin or Canada for most of the winter, that's just dumb luck. It's bound to happen, sooner or later. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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