Hello everyone,

recently I started watching the series on Prime. Before I have been
listening to the audio book which appeared to be a totally different story line (although the story itself is the same).

Still it is not like the Star Trek I used to love (TNG, DS9, VOY) although
it has quite a lot of nostalgia moments.

What I always loved about "my" ST was that it showed a world that I wanted
to live in. And of course the exploring of new people, stars and
technologies among with ethical and philosophical implications.

Except for Picard both following Series were f*****g prequels. That I find opposing to the look at the future.

How did you percieve Picard?

Cheers,
Benjamin

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I never caught Enterprise. I tried a few episodes and I couldn't get into
it. But the ship did look like an Akira class which rates as among a
favorite type for me.

Plus, I didn't really like the cast.

I do not like prequels in general. The cast is something you need to get
used to, but still it was "more Star Trek-y" than anything else that came after it.

Discovery is as you say later "usual SciFi with Star Trek clothes".

Well, Stewart said it was his way of combatting Trump. He made it about
him and his hate and not about the fans. Interesting take you have, but I'm sure
this isn't a forum for political debate. So I'll keep it at that.

The original ST does have a lot of political statements related to the
time it was made. But instead of criticism against political actors, especially not specific ones, ST used to show a vision about better alternatives and kept the science within the fiction as "possible as possible".
This is probably the reason so many nerds and science people love it.

To me, dreaming about a better world and thinking how to achieve it has always been a way better attitude than ranting about the existing one.

I was just getting it off my chest.
Disney killed Star Wars and the passage of time killed Star Trek. My two loves of science fiction and fantasy are history.

Yes... we will likely have to accept, that "our" Star Trek might never
return again.

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Picard Season 1 comes out on DVD October 1st. It is on my DVD queue and when it comes out I'll put it on the top. Let's see how long it takes Netfilx to get the first disc to me. I don't know how many discs in the first season.

Al Kaiser n1api@cox.net <=-

Cheers!

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The original ST does have a lot of political statements related to the BT>> time it was made. But instead of criticism against political actors,
especially not specific ones, ST used to show a vision about better
alternatives and kept the science within the fiction as "possible as
possible".
This is probably the reason so many nerds and science people love it.

Quite true. In my view, those 'statements' regarding political events or policies seemed to wax philosophical. They seemed to be intellectual
exercise or
thought experiment on moral implications.

Yes, but to me that made it so interesting and yet touchable. You could transfer it to any political system or society that you knew or lived in.

And you could identify with some values although taking opposite political positions.

Think of the episode 'Who's watching the Watchers' from Season 3 of TNG. It was a brilliant exercise on the long term manipulation of an entire people when they
mistake Picard for an ancient mythological god when the culture had long discarded their myths.
Picard took a stand by stating that in doing so, he would be erasing their achievement.

Quote: 'Millenia ago they abandoned their belief in the supernatural. Now
you are asking me to sabotage that achievement. To send them back into the dark ages
of superstition and ignorance and fear? No.'

Oh yes, that episode was brilliant! There are very few "untouched"
cultures left on Earth, but once we expand into space - or even when we rethink our relationship with former colonies and occupied countries, it
will give you a different perspective on the implications of what is done.

Yes... we will likely have to accept, that "our" Star Trek might never BT>> return again.

mhm :(

I remember 25 years ago, I was writing into a German ST board on FIDO,
that there was still hope for another season of Picard and his crew. And I really liked an idea for a time travel branch with Admiral Picard in
charge of a new "Time Fleet"...

That still would have been more star-treky than the show had become...

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