• SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222

    From Amessyroom@1:103/705 to All on Sat Jun 22 18:42:32 2024
    I have modified my sbbs.ini to try and get it to start ssh on 2222 instead of 22. I'm running on Linux os so have my sshd already running on 22. I would prefer to keep it that way.

    I've tried setting the interface for ssh to the IP:Port also, and still doesn't seem to start.

    I've set logging to Debug, but I don't think it is starting at all.

    Any suggestions?

    I guess if I don't get anywhere soon; I'll start up and configure my OS ssh to a non-standard port; and try 22.

    Thanks.

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Amessyroom on Sat Jun 22 22:12:00 2024
    Amessyroom wrote to All <=-

    I have modified my sbbs.ini to try and get it to start ssh on
    2222 instead of 22. I'm running on Linux os so have my sshd
    already running on 22. I would prefer to keep it that way.

    Okay, sounds good.

    I've tried setting the interface for ssh to the IP:Port also, and
    still doesn't seem to start.

    Not sure what this even means.

    I've set logging to Debug, but I don't think it is starting at
    all.

    The logging level would have no effect on whether SSH server is starting
    or not.

    Any suggestions?

    Sure. You said above that you've modified your sbbs.ini to have it use
    port 2222. I'll assume you did that with the "SSHPort = 2222" statement
    in the [BBS] section of the sbbs.ini.

    Now, look a ways lower in the file, right under the "Supported Options"
    phrase (still in the [BBS] section. You'll see a statement saying:
    "Options = " (which is not commented out with a semi-colon). Does it have "ALLOW_SSH" after that "Options = " statment? Hmmmmm....

    You have to go through the WHOLE FILE if you expect things to work as you desire.


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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Amessyroom on Sat Jun 22 20:50:16 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to All on Sat Jun 22 2024 06:42 pm

    I have modified my sbbs.ini to try and get it to start ssh on 2222 instead of 22. I'm running on Linux os so have my sshd already running on 22. I would prefer to keep it that way.

    I've tried setting the interface for ssh to the IP:Port also, and still doesn't seem to start.

    I've set logging to Debug, but I don't think it is starting at all.

    What do your terminal server log report?

    Any suggestions?

    Check the log output.
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  • From Amessyroom@1:103/705 to All on Sun Jun 23 00:39:02 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to All on Sat Jun 22 2024 06:42 pm

    sbbs@vmi1943160 data]$ grep -i ssh error.log
    term 0005 !ERROR 13 binding SSH Server socket to port 22: Permission denied term 0005 !ERROR 13 binding SSH Server socket: Permission denied [sbbs@vmi1943160 data]$ grep -i ssh ../ctrl/sbbs.ini
    [BBS] Terminal (Telnet, SSH, RLogin, Raw-TCP) Server
    SSHInterface =
    ;SSHErrorLevel = Warning
    SSHErrorLevel = Debugging
    ; TCP port for Secure Shell (SSH) server:
    SSHPort = 2424
    SSHConnectTimeout = 10s
    ; ALLOW_SSH
    ; SSH_ANYAUTH
    Options = XTRN_MINIMIZED| ALLOW_SSH | ALLOW_SFTP

    Changed port to 2424, rebooted server, restarted SBBS and it is trying to bind to port 22; which the OS is using.

    Why is it ignorning the requested port of 2424

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  • From Amessyroom@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sun Jun 23 09:33:12 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Sat Jun 22 2024 08:50 pm

    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    22. I would prefer to keep it that way.

    I've tried setting the interface for ssh to the IP:Port also, and still doesn't seem to start.

    I've set logging to Debug, but I don't think it is starting at all.

    What do your terminal server log report?

    Any suggestions?

    Check the log output.
    term 0005 !ERROR 13 binding SSH Server socket to port 22: Permission denied term 0005 !ERROR 13 binding SSH Server socket: Permission denied [sbbs@vmi1943160 data]$

    I have changed OS ssh to non 22 port. I've reran setcap and confirmed it has ability to point to privilege ports.

    I have setup netcat on port 22, and connected to it. So other port can be used.

    Maybe and OS issue. I have specified the IP in SSHInterface. Don't understand why it cannot bind and use 22, now that I've released it.

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  • From Amessyroom@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sun Jun 23 14:49:00 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Sun Jun 23 2024 09:33 am

    Now that port 22 is free. I tried 22, 222, and 2424 nothing will bind.

    I run netcat on port 22 and it binds and i can connect to it successfully.

    I've rebooted server. Restarted BBS. Nothing seems to get bound .


    Seems I have broken something in regards to this service starting.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Amessyroom on Sun Jun 23 12:52:16 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to All on Sun Jun 23 2024 12:39 am

    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to All on Sat Jun 22 2024 06:42 pm

    sbbs@vmi1943160 data]$ grep -i ssh error.log
    term 0005 !ERROR 13 binding SSH Server socket to port 22: Permission denied term 0005 !ERROR 13 binding SSH Server socket: Permission denied [sbbs@vmi1943160 data]$ grep -i ssh ../ctrl/sbbs.ini
    [BBS] Terminal (Telnet, SSH, RLogin, Raw-TCP) Server
    SSHInterface =
    ;SSHErrorLevel = Warning
    SSHErrorLevel = Debugging
    ; TCP port for Secure Shell (SSH) server:
    SSHPort = 2424
    SSHConnectTimeout = 10s
    ; ALLOW_SSH
    ; SSH_ANYAUTH
    Options = XTRN_MINIMIZED| ALLOW_SSH | ALLOW_SFTP

    Changed port to 2424, rebooted server, restarted SBBS and it is trying to bind to port 22; which the OS is using.

    Why is it ignorning the requested port of 2424

    Do you have more than one sbbs.ini file?

    If you run SCFG and go to Servers->Terminal Server, what does it say for "SSH Support"?
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Amessyroom on Sun Jun 23 12:53:26 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Sun Jun 23 2024 09:33 am

    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Sat Jun 22 2024 08:50 pm

    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    22. I would prefer to keep it that way.

    I've tried setting the interface for ssh to the IP:Port also, and still doesn't seem to start.

    I've set logging to Debug, but I don't think it is starting at all.

    What do your terminal server log report?

    Any suggestions?

    Check the log output.
    term 0005 !ERROR 13 binding SSH Server socket to port 22: Permission denied term 0005 !ERROR 13 binding SSH Server socket: Permission denied [sbbs@vmi1943160 data]$

    I have changed OS ssh to non 22 port. I've reran setcap and confirmed it has ability to point to privilege ports.

    I have setup netcat on port 22, and connected to it. So other port can be used.

    Maybe and OS issue. I have specified the IP in SSHInterface. Don't understand why it cannot bind and use 22, now that I've released it.

    Are those old log entries perhaps? You want to see the current/recent log entries from after you've made whatever changes you have.
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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Amessyroom on Sun Jun 23 13:17:38 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Sun Jun 23 2024 09:33 am

    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    I've tried setting the interface for ssh to the IP:Port also, and
    still doesn't seem to start.

    Could it be a firewall port not opened problem?
    just a thought.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:103/705 to AMESSYROOM on Sun Jun 23 13:29:00 2024
    [sbbs@vmi1943160 data]$ grep -i ssh ../ctrl/sbbs.ini
    [BBS] Terminal (Telnet, SSH, RLogin, Raw-TCP) Server
    SSHInterface =
    ;SSHErrorLevel = Warning
    SSHErrorLevel = Debugging
    ; TCP port for Secure Shell (SSH) server:
    SSHPort = 2424
    SSHConnectTimeout = 10s
    ; ALLOW_SSH
    ; SSH_ANYAUTH
    Options = XTRN_MINIMIZED| ALLOW_SSH | ALLOW_SFTP

    Changed port to 2424, rebooted server, restarted SBBS and it is trying to bind
    to port 22; which the OS is using.

    Why is it ignorning the requested port of 2424

    Hmm, this mostly looks like mine and mine is using the correct port. I
    would make sure that you only have one copy of sbbs.ini on the system that Synchronet may be finding.

    I was also going to suggest verifying that there is not another SSHPort =
    line in this copy of sbbs.ini but grep should have found it if there was.


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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to Denn on Sun Jun 23 17:48:00 2024
    Denn wrote to Amessyroom <=-

    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Sun Jun 23 2024 09:33 am

    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    I've tried setting the interface for ssh to the IP:Port also, and
    still doesn't seem to start.

    Could it be a firewall port not opened problem?
    just a thought.

    Ummm.... no. What would a firewall have to do with a service not
    starting on a server?

    A firewall could prevent a connection from being made, but it has nothing
    to do with the actual service *starting* *up*.



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  • From Amessyroom@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sun Jun 23 17:12:30 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Sun Jun 23 2024 02:49 pm

    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Sun Jun 23 2024 09:33 am

    Figured it out.

    sbbs generated a key when first started on the 17th, and left it , although it was never successful in starting the daemon

    I did not see this on console until, I turned off all other terminal services except ssh

    sbbs core dumped

    6/23 16:19:19 term SSH ERROR 'Couldn't import the session key used to protect the private key: Couldn't unwrap encrypted key' (-22) getting private key from bbs_thread
    [Threads: 8 Sockets: 19 Clients: 0 Served: 0 Errors: 20] (?=Help): Segmentation fault (core dumped)


    [sbbs@vmi1943160 ctrl]$ find $HOME -name \*.key -print /home/sbbs/ctrl/cryptlib.key
    [sbbs@vmi1943160 ctrl]$ ls -l cryptlib.key
    -rw------- 1 sbbs sbbs 1289 Jun 17 20:37 cryptlib.key
    [sbbs@vmi1943160 ctrl]$ date
    Sun Jun 23 04:39:49 PM EDT 2024

    Removing cryptlib.key fixed issue. Thanks to the documentation mentioning,
    this key elsewhere (when SY password is changed), I figured that is where problem was in this case.

    Is the console log written anywhere? I read in the wiki that running in daemon mode isn't recommended? But in daemon mode , I expect the console will be written
    to syslog local3.

    But then ...

    Telnet server started failing. I'm just sticking with telnet.

    When using ssh I had issues with syncterm 1.1b with activating session. 50/50 it would work, and then I could get logged in.

    At least, I know the source of the problem. Thanks for listening to my debugging

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Amessyroom on Sun Jun 23 18:18:02 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Sun Jun 23 2024 05:12 pm

    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Sun Jun 23 2024 02:49 pm

    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Sun Jun 23 2024 09:33 am

    Figured it out.

    sbbs generated a key when first started on the 17th, and left it , although it was never successful in starting the daemon

    I did not see this on console until, I turned off all other terminal services except ssh

    sbbs core dumped

    6/23 16:19:19 term SSH ERROR 'Couldn't import the session key used to protect the private key: Couldn't unwrap encrypted key' (-22) getting private key from bbs_thread
    [Threads: 8 Sockets: 19 Clients: 0 Served: 0 Errors: 20] (?=Help): Segmentation fault (core dumped)

    A backtrace from that core dump would likely allow me to fix that issue: https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:gdb

    [sbbs@vmi1943160 ctrl]$ find $HOME -name \*.key -print /home/sbbs/ctrl/cryptlib.key
    [sbbs@vmi1943160 ctrl]$ ls -l cryptlib.key
    -rw------- 1 sbbs sbbs 1289 Jun 17 20:37 cryptlib.key
    [sbbs@vmi1943160 ctrl]$ date
    Sun Jun 23 04:39:49 PM EDT 2024

    Removing cryptlib.key fixed issue. Thanks to the documentation mentioning, this key elsewhere (when SY password is changed), I figured that is where problem was in this case.

    Is the console log written anywhere?

    Not normally, but if the "syslog" command-line option is used, it'll write to syslog.
    https://wiki.synchro.net/monitor:sbbscon

    I read in the wiki that running in daemon mode isn't recommended?

    I think you have that reversed: daemon mode *is* recommended. https://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix#daemon_mode

    But in daemon mode , I expect the console
    will be written
    to syslog local3.

    But then ...

    Telnet server started failing. I'm just sticking with telnet.

    When using ssh I had issues with syncterm 1.1b with activating session. 50/50 it would work, and then I could get logged in.

    At least, I know the source of the problem. Thanks for listening to my debugging

    I'm not clear if you're still having an issue or not. <shrug>
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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Sun Jun 23 22:30:46 2024
    Re: Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Gamgee to Denn on Sun Jun 23 2024 05:48 pm

    Ummm.... no. What would a firewall have to do with a service not

    Uhm.... go away Spaz......

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  • From Amessyroom@1:103/705 to Denn on Sun Jun 23 21:23:26 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Denn to Amessyroom on Sun Jun 23 2024 01:17 pm

    Could it be a firewall port not opened problem? just a thought.
    firewalld is not running. and I could run netcat and bind to 22.
    and in a follow up post; i got it working after seeing an error about ssh key and removing the cryptlib.key

    thanks.

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  • From Amessyroom@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sun Jun 23 21:38:12 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Sun Jun 23 2024 12:52 pm

    Do you have more than one sbbs.ini file?

    If you run SCFG and go to Servers->Terminal Server, what does it say for "SSH Support"?
    Yes (had backup files , i.e. sbbs.[0-9].ini), moved them to OLD directory in ctrl directory.

    Had it disabled. Enabled and it is set to Port 22.

    quit and restarted.


    Attempted ssh login with syncterm 1.1 debug
    asked for password. tried to activate session. Error activating session.
    Tried telent it worked.

    2nd attempt at ssh activated
    successfully logged in.

    So have two active sessions!
    Connected via web; so now have 3 sessions active.
    And for grins and giggles tried another ssh session ; and they are holding their own.

    Maybe the multiple sbbs.ini files (although backup) , confused it ?

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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Amessyroom on Mon Jun 24 06:47:56 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Denn to Amessyroom on Sun Jun 23 2024 01:17 pm

    firewalld is not running. and I could run netcat and bind to 22.
    and in a follow up post; i got it working after seeing an error about ssh key and removing the cryptlib.key

    thanks.

    Glad you got it figured out.

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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to Denn on Mon Jun 24 07:35:00 2024
    Denn wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Gamgee to Denn on Sun Jun 23 2024 05:48 pm

    Ummm.... no. What would a firewall have to do with a service not

    Uhm.... go away Spaz......

    So, you're going to get offended at everything I say, even when I'm
    CLEARLY right and you are OBVIOUSLY wrong, eh? I wasn't rude or
    anything else, just pointing out how a firewall could NOT cause the
    problem being discussed.

    Is that right? Is that how you're going to act no matter what? Who's
    the "spaz" here...?



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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Mon Jun 24 09:36:46 2024
    Re: Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Gamgee to Denn on Mon Jun 24 2024 07:35 am

    So, you're going to get offended at everything I say, even when I'm

    Not offended, just tired of idiots like you.
    BTW you downvoting every message of mine is a little childish and weird but I expect that from you.

    ... Could you continue your petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.

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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to Denn on Mon Jun 24 19:12:00 2024
    Denn wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Gamgee to Denn on Mon Jun 24 2024 07:35 am

    So, you're going to get offended at everything I say, even when I'm

    Not offended, just tired of idiots like you.

    You must be offended, or you wouldn't keep chirping at me like a little biatch.

    It's nice how you snip out most of the context too, to (try) and validate
    your "point".

    My last reply that offended you so much was simply pointing out why your "suggestion" could not be the answer to the problem, as a firewall does
    not affect a service starting up (or not) on a server. You were clearly CLUELESS and I was actually decent and trying to educate you. I guess
    that's not possible, though.

    The actual idiot around here is YOU, who is wrong about everything you
    post about, and can barely do basic configuration of your own system.

    Run along and play in traffic, you bore me.



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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Mon Jun 24 22:55:28 2024
    Re: Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Gamgee to Denn on Mon Jun 24 2024 07:12 pm

    So, you're going to get offended at everything I say, even when I'm

    Not offended, just tired of idiots like you.
    You must be offended, or you wouldn't keep chirping at me like a little

    Go home and play with your tinker toys kid.

    CLUELESS and I was actually decent and trying to educate you. I guess

    Here's a clue "..l. .l.." just don't even respond to me.
    You're always a negative nelly and never add any real value in your post's to others.
    All you want is attention.

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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Tue Jun 25 03:39:24 2024
    Re: Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Gamgee to Denn on Mon Jun 24 2024 07:35:00

    Re: Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222 By: Gamgee to Denn on
    Sun Jun 23 2024 05:48 pm

    Ummm.... no. What would a firewall have to do with a service not

    Uhm.... go away Spaz......

    So, you're going to get offended at everything I say, even when I'm CLEARLY right and you are OBVIOUSLY wrong, eh? I wasn't rude or anything else, just pointing out how a firewall could NOT cause the problem being discussed.

    Is that right? Is that how you're going to act no matter what? Who's the "spaz" here...?

    We all know where you were going with how you delivered this message, just as with the other passive agressiive attempts of showing your "superior" intellect to others. It's not hard to see, and whether you are right or wrong, In your mind you are always correct and will never have it any other way.

    Seems that personality is prevalent on the internet and definatly bbsing. I don't know if it is because the "anonimity" of it all or what. but it seems to give people brains and balls they normally would'nt have IRL. So just say to yourself, "If I would'nt say this to someone looking them straight in the eyes, then maybe I should'nt say it to them here". and you will start being a person that is not so much a spaz.

    Because really, viewing the totality of the messages you have written here, that is what you make yourself out to be. If you were correct with all the "helpful suggestions" you give out, and your delivery was a little less douchebaggey it would'nt be so bad. But a lot of times you are wrong.. or just just not hitting 100 percent on your suggestions, and when that happens, you kinda just "disappear".. and thats what I find real funny about it all. At first it really bothered me. but then I see that you probably just need this validation to stroke your ego or something, So now I just find it funny. I would find it sad. but for some reason, I have no pity for you.
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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Tue Jun 25 12:31:54 2024

    Re: Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Gamgee to Denn on Mon Jun 24 2024 07:35:00

    We all know where you were going with how you delivered this message, just as with the other passive agressiive attempts of showing your "superior" intellect to others. It's not hard to see, and whether you are right or wrong, In your mind you are always correct and will never have it any other way.

    Seems that personality is prevalent on the internet and definatly bbsing. I don't know if it is because the "anonimity" of it all or what. but it seems to give people brains and balls they normally would'nt have IRL. So just say to yourself, "If I would'nt say this to someone looking them straight in the eyes, then maybe I should'nt say it to them here". and you will start being a person that is not so much a spaz.

    Because really, viewing the totality of the messages you have written here, that is what you make yourself out to be. If you were correct with all the "helpful suggestions" you give out, and your delivery was a little less douchebaggey it would'nt be so bad. But a lot of times you are wrong.. or just just not hitting 100 percent on your suggestions, and when that happens, you kinda just "disappear".. and thats what I find real funny about it all. At first it really bothered me. but then I see that you probably just need this validation to stroke your ego or something, So now I just find it funny. I would find it sad. but for some reason, I have no pity for you.

    As annoying as MRO is this Gamgee kid is worse.
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Denn on Tue Jun 25 13:02:02 2024
    Re: Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Denn to kk4qbn on Tue Jun 25 2024 12:31 pm

    As annoying as MRO is this Gamgee kid is worse.

    Lately there have been a lot of posts with the 3 of you arguing with each other. This isn't fight-o-net, is it? ;)

    Nightfox

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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to Denn on Tue Jun 25 15:07:00 2024
    Denn wrote to Gamgee <=-

    So, you're going to get offended at everything I say, even when I'm

    Not offended, just tired of idiots like you.

    You must be offended, or you wouldn't keep chirping at me like a little

    Go home and play with your tinker toys kid.

    Another GREAT comeback from the channel retard "Denn". How clever.

    CLUELESS and I was actually decent and trying to educate you. I guess

    Here's a clue "..l. .l.." just don't even respond to me.

    I'll respond to whomever I choose.


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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Tue Jun 25 15:12:00 2024
    kk4qbn wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Uhm.... go away Spaz......

    So, you're going to get offended at everything I say, even when I'm CLEARLY right and you are OBVIOUSLY wrong, eh? I wasn't rude or anything else, just pointing out how a firewall could NOT cause the problem being discussed.

    Is that right? Is that how you're going to act no matter what? Who's the "spaz" here...?

    We all know where you were going with how you delivered this
    message, just as with the other passive agressiive attempts of
    showing your "superior" intellect to others. It's not hard to
    see, and whether you are right or wrong, In your mind you are
    always correct and will never have it any other way.

    Absolutely wrong, and I frequently admit when I'm wrong. Maybe I seem "superior" to *YOU*, because....... you're quite "inferior"?

    <SNIP> a bunch of armchair psychologist drivel which is (again) wrong.

    I'm pretty sure that you and "Denn" are related in some fashion.

    If you don't like what I write, well..... that's too bad.



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  • From Amessyroom@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Tue Jun 25 18:29:10 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Sun Jun 23 2024 05:12 pm

    A backtrace from that core dump would likely allow me to fix that issue: https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:gdb

    Would the dump be called core?
    I've not found it. Cores may have not been setup. Changed to Systemd startup and added core entry. So future cores should be generated

    Not normally, but if the "syslog" command-line option is used, it'll write to syslog.
    https://wiki.synchro.net/monitor:sbbscon

    I think you have that reversed: daemon mode *is* recommended. https://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix#daemon_mode

    I'm not clear if you're still having an issue or not. <shrug>
    It is working. Thank you.

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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Tue Jun 25 21:30:14 2024
    Re: Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Tue Jun 25 2024 15:12:00

    <SNIP>


    Oh, there you go cutting out the pertanent parts of the message again to get your one sided conversation across..

    and I see now that you have lowered yourself to calling people retards.. just like your brother MRO..

    You are nothing but a drain on this message group and society as a whole. you defanatly bring NOTHING of value to this group, you are only here to devalue, and degrade people.

    and you see here.. hey.. I did'nt comment.. wonder if it's because my ALT keys aren't mapped correctly on this console, or if I just want to bother you with petiness.. I would like to be done with this, but you are always here trying to cut people down, degrade, and bully.. I would like to see you say any of what you say online to anyones face while you are looking them in the eye, I bet you could'nt. I know you would'nt because judging by how you act on here you fit the profile of a cowardess bully.

    MRO has at least cooled down with a lot of his nonsense lately, but it appears you have taken his place pretty much. I guess since he has'nt been filling your need to argue with someone you are out baiting whoever you can.

    Next time when offering your valuable input, try not to be so passive agressive about it. leave out the "um nooo's" and the "you retards" and you may not look so much like well... a gamgee..
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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Tue Jun 25 20:30:26 2024
    and you see here.. hey.. I did'nt comment.. wonder if it's because my ALT keys aren't mapped correctly on this console, or if I just want to bother you with petiness.. I would like to be done with this, but you are always here trying to cut people down, degrade, and bully.. I would like to see you say any of what you say online to anyones face while you are looking them in the eye, I bet you could'nt. I know you would'nt because judging by how you act on here you fit the profile of a cowardess bully.

    MRO has at least cooled down with a lot of his nonsense lately, but it appears you have taken his place pretty much. I guess since he has'nt been filling your need to argue with someone you are out baiting whoever you can.

    Next time when offering your valuable input, try not to be so passive agressive about it. leave out the "um nooo's" and the "you retards" and you may not look so much like well... a
    gamgee..

    I was considering twitlisting bambee but I'll just ignore him.
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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Tue Jun 25 22:01:00 2024
    kk4qbn wrote to Gamgee <=-

    <SNIP>

    Oh, there you go cutting

    <SNIP drivel>

    FOAD, dimwit.



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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to Denn on Tue Jun 25 22:11:00 2024
    Denn wrote to kk4qbn <=-

    As annoying as MRO is this Gamgee kid is worse.

    This "Denn" loser makes "kk4qbn" look smart. <GUFFAW>



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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to Denn on Wed Jun 26 00:23:30 2024
    Re: Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Denn to kk4qbn on Tue Jun 25 2024 20:30:26

    I was considering twitlisting bambee but I'll just ignore him.

    Yeah, I forget that replying to this crap just makes it grow exponentially just like the ego's that spew it. I'll do the same.. maybe soon it'll just go away.
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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Tue Jun 25 23:32:50 2024
    Re: Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Tue Jun 25 2024 10:01 pm

    <SNIP>

    Oh, there you go cutting

    <SNIP drivel>

    FOAD, dimwit.

    Same old shit Bambee, you wonder why nobody wants to interact with you.
    Maybe if you didn't act like a 5 year old.
    on second thought I am going to twitlist you.
    bye chump!

    ... One was more wise than the other.

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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Wed Jun 26 00:30:44 2024
    Re: Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: kk4qbn to Denn on Wed Jun 26 2024 12:23 am

    I was considering twitlisting bambee but I'll just ignore him.

    Yeah, I forget that replying to this crap just makes it grow exponentially just like the ego's that spew it. I'll do the same.. maybe soon it'll just go away.

    I decided to twitlist the fool, now he can respond to me all he wants, I wont see it.

    ... Chuck Norris can sleep while he's awake.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Amessyroom on Wed Jun 26 10:20:34 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Tue Jun 25 2024 06:29 pm

    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Sun Jun 23 2024 05:12 pm

    A backtrace from that core dump would likely allow me to fix that issue: https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:gdb

    Would the dump be called core?

    That depends on your system configuration, but the core files usually have "core" somewhere in their name.
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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wed Jun 26 13:14:20 2024
    Re: Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Denn to kk4qbn on Tue Jun 25 2024 12:31 pm

    Lately there have been a lot of posts with the 3 of you arguing with each other. This isn't fight-o-net, is it? ;)

    Nightfox

    ---
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    I won't see his idiotic messages anymore.
    I still get his childish downvotes but that's no biggie.

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  • From Amessyroom@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Jun 26 18:10:50 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Wed Jun 26 2024 10:20 am

    Would the dump be called core?

    That depends on your system configuration, but the core files usually have "core" somewhere in their name.
    "core" somewhere in their name.
    Seems by default they were not being saved, but have changed parameters and restarted the bbs and confirmed I will get future coredumps.


    sbbs@vmi1943160 syncdraw]$ sudo coredumpctl list
    TIME PID UID GID SIG COREFILE EXE SIZE
    Mon 2024-06-24 23:48:43 EDT 38738 1001 1002 SIGABRT none /home/sbbs/repo/exec/gtkmonitor -
    Mon 2024-06-24 23:51:53 EDT 39122 1001 1002 SIGSEGV none /home/sbbs/repo/exec/gtkmonitor -
    Wed 2024-06-26 17:45:30 EDT 39347 1001 1002 SIGSEGV none /home/sbbs/repo/src/sbbs3/gcc.linux.x64.exe.release/sbbs -
    Wed 2024-06-26 17:54:04 EDT 131854 1001 1002 SIGSEGV none /home/sbbs/repo/src/sbbs3/gcc.linux.x64.exe.release/sbbs -
    Wed 2024-06-26 17:55:32 EDT 132632 1001 1002 SIGSEGV present /home/sbbs/repo/src/sbbs3/gcc.linux.x64.exe.release/sbbs 1.3M
    [sbbs@vmi1943160 syncdraw]$ ls -l /var/lib/systemd/
    catalog/ coredump/ linger/ pstore/ random-seed timers/ [sbbs@vmi1943160 syncdraw]$ ls -l /var/lib/systemd/
    catalog/ coredump/ linger/ pstore/ random-seed timers/ [sbbs@vmi1943160 syncdraw]$ ls -l /var/lib/systemd/coredump/
    total 1372
    -rw-r----- 1 root root 1399886 Jun 26 17:55 core.sbbs.1001.1d5744b7c677472da91326aa2efd68b7.132632.1719438931000000.zst
    [sbbs@vmi1943160 syncdraw]$

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  • From Amessyroom@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Jun 26 21:31:46 2024
    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Wed Jun 26 2024 06:10 pm

    Is the hypen a legal DOS character? I used it in my system QWL name for Dove-Net and it is working.
    Trying to add another QWK networ, and after I say Yes I want this to be a QWK account it asks for name, and says that what I enter is invalid.

    I would no think anything has changed recently. If is an illegal characet, what would be best approach to renaming my QWK name on my BBS and vERT for QWK networking ?

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Amessyroom on Thu Jun 27 14:02:52 2024
    Re: QWK Names on BBS
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Wed Jun 26 2024 09:31 pm

    Re: SSH not starting on non-standard port 2222
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Wed Jun 26 2024 06:10 pm

    Is the hypen a legal DOS character?

    An ASCII 'dash' is a legal DOS filename character, yes, if that's the question you're asking.

    I used it in my system QWL name for
    Dove-Net and it is working.
    Trying to add another QWK networ, and after I say Yes I want this to be a QWK account it asks for name, and says that what I enter is invalid.

    What is "it" in this context? If it's another QWKnet hub/BBS, have you tried asking that sysop about it?

    I would no think anything has changed recently. If is an illegal characet, what would be best approach to renaming my QWK name on my BBS and vERT for QWK networking ?

    Dash is a valid DOS filename and QWK-ID character.
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  • From Mike Powell@1:103/705 to DIGITAL MAN on Fri Jun 28 10:51:00 2024
    What is "it" in this context? If it's another QWKnet hub/BBS, have you tried asking that sysop about it?

    I would no think anything has changed recently. If is an illegal characet, what would be best approach to renaming my QWK name on my BBS and vERT for QWK networking ?

    Dash is a valid DOS filename and QWK-ID character.

    I just attempted to set up a QWK ID node for Amessyroom on my system so
    that he can pick up Micronet. Synchronet 3.20 on linux would not accept "TL-QWK" as a QWK ID. It complained about an invalid character. I had to set it to TL_QWK.

    I have not had any issues when using a '-' in dosemu as a filename
    character, but Synchronet would not accept it in the QWK ID name.

    Just for fun, I just tried to change it from '_' to '-' in the User Editor
    and it did work. However, I am not sure what it would try to do with that edited '-' name should the system try to use it to log on.


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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Fri Jun 28 11:15:42 2024
    Re: QWK Names on BBS
    By: Mike Powell to DIGITAL MAN on Fri Jun 28 2024 10:51 am

    Dash is a valid DOS filename and QWK-ID character.

    I just attempted to set up a QWK ID node for Amessyroom on my system so that he can pick up Micronet. Synchronet 3.20 on linux would not accept "TL-QWK" as a QWK ID. It complained about an invalid character. I had to

    Hi Digital Man,

    I've tried creating a test account on my BBS as a QWK account. It looks like in newuser.js, it's failing the QWK ID check. In the chk_qwk_id() function, this is the first test:

    if(str.search(QWK_ID_PATTERN) != 0)
    return false;

    QWK_ID_PATTERN is:
    /^[A-Z]\w{1,7}$/

    It looks like that pattern is looking for a single capital letter followed by 1 to 7 whitespace characters? str.search(QWK_ID_PATTERN) is returning -1 (not found), and since the test is checking it for != 0, then it returns false.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Fri Jun 28 14:24:12 2024
    Re: QWK Names on BBS
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Jun 28 2024 11:15 am

    I've tried creating a test account on my BBS as a QWK account. It looks like in newuser.js, it's failing the QWK ID check. In the chk_qwk_id() function, this is the first test:

    if(str.search(QWK_ID_PATTERN) != 0)
    return false;

    QWK_ID_PATTERN is:
    /^[A-Z]\w{1,7}$/

    It looks like that pattern is looking for a single capital letter followed by 1 to 7 whitespace characters? str.search(QWK_ID_PATTERN) is returning -1 (not found), and since the test is checking it for != 0, then it returns false.

    My mistake, \w is any word character. I looked it up online, and it sounds like a word character includes letters, numbers, and underscores. It looks like that regular expression doesn't match dashes.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mike Powell@1:103/705 to DIGITAL MAN on Sat Jun 29 10:36:00 2024
    Just for fun, I just tried to change it from '_' to '-' in the User Editor and it did work. However, I am not sure what it would try to do with that edited '-' name should the system try to use it to log on.

    Changing the character back to '-' in the User Editor results in an ID that
    is able to log on. The new user process seems to be the only process that
    has trouble with the '-'.


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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Mike Powell on Sat Jun 29 16:16:00 2024
    Re: QWK Names on BBS
    By: Mike Powell to DIGITAL MAN on Fri Jun 28 2024 10:51 am

    What is "it" in this context? If it's another QWKnet hub/BBS, have you tried asking that sysop about it?

    I would no think anything has changed recently. If is an illegal characet, what would be best approach to renaming my QWK name on my BBS and vERT for QWK networking ?

    Dash is a valid DOS filename and QWK-ID character.

    I just attempted to set up a QWK ID node for Amessyroom on my system so
    that he can pick up Micronet. Synchronet 3.20 on linux would not accept "TL-QWK" as a QWK ID. It complained about an invalid character. I had to set it to TL_QWK.

    The thing that "would not accept" it is likely the sysop's exec/newuser.js which was probably customized by that sysop. The stock newuser.js certainly does accept the dash character.

    const QWK_ID_PATTERN = /^[A-Z]\w{1,7}$/;

    That regular expression says the first character must be a letter, the characters at offset 1-7 can be any non-whitespace character.

    I have not had any issues when using a '-' in dosemu as a filename character, but Synchronet would not accept it in the QWK ID name.

    Synchronet is not the thing that's rejecting it.

    Just for fun, I just tried to change it from '_' to '-' in the User Editor and it did work. However, I am not sure what it would try to do with that edited '-' name should the system try to use it to log on.

    So, if you're the sysop of the system that's rejecting the QWK-ID, double check your newuser.js file is current and not modified in a way to cause this behavior.
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sat Jun 29 16:20:12 2024
    Re: QWK Names on BBS
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Jun 28 2024 02:24 pm

    My mistake, \w is any word character. I looked it up online, and it sounds like a word character includes letters, numbers, and underscores. It looks like that regular expression doesn't match dashes.

    Ah, good find!
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Mike Powell on Sat Jun 29 16:33:32 2024
    Re: QWK Names on BBS
    By: Digital Man to Mike Powell on Sat Jun 29 2024 04:16 pm

    The thing that "would not accept" it is likely the sysop's exec/newuser.js which was probably customized by that sysop. The stock newuser.js certainly does accept the dash character.

    const QWK_ID_PATTERN = /^[A-Z]\w{1,7}$/;

    That regular expression says the first character must be a letter, the characters at offset 1-7 can be any non-whitespace character.

    My mistake (as Nightfox pointed out) - newuser.js now fixed in git.

    Thanks for your patience,
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  • From Mike Powell@1:103/705 to DIGITAL MAN on Sun Jun 30 09:30:00 2024
    My mistake (as Nightfox pointed out) - newuser.js now fixed in git.

    Thanks for your patience,

    No problem. Amessyroom was the first one to ever try using a '-' in their
    QWK ID here, AFAIK.

    I will pull a new copy shortly.


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  • From Amessyroom@1:103/705 to Mike Powell on Sun Jun 30 22:14:54 2024
    Creator of the "-" QWK ID - LOL


    No problem. Amessyroom was the first one to ever try using a '-' in their QWK ID here, AFAIK.

    I guess it was by pure luck? - or _ guess it is a personal preference, and don't have to press shift to enter it :-)

    Thanks to everybody that helped troubleshoot and fix the problem. All my QWK feeds are working great!

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