• Good reason not to run a BBS at home...

    From nelgin@1:103/705 to All on Wed Sep 25 00:57:44 2024
    I replaced my 4x6tb RAID 10 disks with a sinlge 12tb until I had time to get the 2nd disk and install it.

    Tonight was the night, shut the server down, added the 2nd disk, booted up fine but I heard some random plinking inside. Obviously something was hitting a fan...there are 6 fans, 3 at the front, one in the rear, the CPU fan and the fan in the PSU.

    Quickly shutting down, turned off the power and checked everything. I couldn't find anything so it must have been something under the slider my tower is on hitting the power supply fan.

    Pulled in the power, flipped the switch and got a white led flash to show there's power. Hit the power on button...nothing.

    Powered off, rechecked all the connectors for fans, switch, checked memory and card slots. Tried again...nada. Looks like I somehow fried my motherboard.

    I'll dig my power supply tester out tomorrow. Last thing I want to do is replace the motherboard. I'm at the age now where that sort of thing isn't fun, it's a waste of time chore.

    This is not how I wanted to spend my Tuesday night!

    Save your BBS uptime, get a VPS!

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to nelgin on Tue Sep 24 23:10:44 2024
    Re: Good reason not to run a BBS at home...
    By: nelgin to All on Wed Sep 25 2024 12:57 am

    This is not how I wanted to spend my Tuesday night!

    Save your BBS uptime, get a VPS!

    It's part of the fun. And we learn stuff, but yeah, I hear ya, it's much harder to get down on the ground, in the dust bunnies, with my hardware. I don't enjoy it nearly as much any more. But I'm happy with the results, usually.

    Doing *both* (remote managin a VPS) and standing-up and managing your own hardware is likely the best of both worlds as far as knowledge and experience goes. It's good to know that Synchronet (hopefully) works good for either type of sysop.
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to nelgin on Wed Sep 25 07:10:30 2024
    Re: Good reason not to run a BBS at home...
    By: nelgin to All on Wed Sep 25 2024 12:57 am

    I replaced my 4x6tb RAID 10 disks with a sinlge 12tb until I had time to get the 2nd disk and install it.

    Tonight was the night, shut the server down, added the 2nd disk, booted

    up
    fine but I heard some random plinking inside. Obviously something was hitting a fan...there are 6 fans, 3 at the front, one in the rear, the CPU
    thanks for the exciting story.


    Save your BBS uptime, get a VPS!

    vpses suck. I tried them for years. it's hard to find a good provider
    and the ones i've seen bbs people use are a rip off.
    I prefer a dedicated server. i use ovh.

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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Sep 25 07:15:06 2024
    Re: Good reason not to run a BBS at home...
    By: Digital Man to nelgin on Tue Sep 24 2024 11:10 pm


    Save your BBS uptime, get a VPS!

    It's part of the fun. And we learn stuff, but yeah, I hear ya, it's much harder to get down on the ground, in the dust bunnies, with my hardware. I don't enjoy it nearly as much any more. But I'm happy with the results, usually.


    the older i get, the less i want to screw around with things.
    I don't want to build my own computers anymore, and I'll crack them open to add memory, but that's it. there's lots of better ways to spend your free time.
    like children and family.

    Doing *both* (remote managin a VPS) and standing-up and managing your own hardware is likely the best of both worlds as far as knowledge and experience goes. It's good to know that Synchronet (hopefully) works good for either type of sysop.

    synchronet works well on the vms i run. I use proxmox. I have a linux vm that ran the linux version of synchronet and I have had other bbses on there.
    Even getting hit with big attacks, it can handle it.

    Recently I setup a vm for a person that has a high traffic website. that's why i was asking about the ssl. usually i use ngnix or apache but i let it run on synchronet and it's doing fine. cloudflare is doing the ssl.
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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to nelgin on Wed Sep 25 07:52:52 2024
    Re: Good reason not to run a BBS at home...
    By: nelgin to All on Wed Sep 25 2024 12:57 am

    Save your BBS uptime, get a VPS!

    I paid like $35 and got a little HP thin client to run my BBS.
    Easy to work on just holding it, Been running my BBS on it for years.
    and it's fanless, I also run my other BBS on a Raspberry PI 3, also been running for years on that.

    ... The backup's not over 'til the FAT table sings.

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Denn on Wed Sep 25 09:48:24 2024
    Re: Good reason not to run a BBS at home...
    By: Denn to nelgin on Wed Sep 25 2024 07:52 am

    I paid like $35 and got a little HP thin client to run my BBS. Easy to work on just holding it, Been running my BBS on it for years. and it's fanless, I also run my other BBS on a Raspberry PI 3, also been running for years on that.

    Yeah, a few years ago I bought a small used Dell PC from eBay and am currently using that for my BBS. I also run Plex Media Server on the same PC to stream my (ripped) movies & TV shows so I don't have to get the discs out every time I want to play them (and I also don't have to rely on streaming services, which might remove content). I also have a TV tuner set up with my Plex media server, and I use it to DVR some shows from TV to watch later (usually game shows like Jeopardy, Beat Shazam, etc.). That's the kind of thing I think would work best to run at home, and I figure I might as well also run my BBS on it. I rarely have problems with my computer setups at home, and I like having direct access to them. And VPS or other online hosting solution can have different issues - sometimes they have their own outages, etc..

    Nightfox

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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 25 11:46:50 2024
    Re: Good reason not to run a BBS at home...
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Wed Sep 25 2024 09:48 am

    I paid like $35 and got a little HP thin client to run my BBS. Easy
    to work on just holding it, Been running my BBS on it for years. and
    it's fanless, I also run my other BBS on a Raspberry PI 3, also been
    running for years on that.

    Yeah, a few years ago I bought a small used Dell PC from eBay and am currently using that for my BBS. I also run Plex Media Server on the same PC to stream my (ripped) movies & TV shows so I don't have to get the discs out every time I want to play them (and I also don't have to rely on

    Yeah same here, I've had a plex server setup for years, I have 1000+ movies and series on it with a folder for holiday music.
    The TV tuner with DVR sounds interesting, I will have to check that out.
    I'm switching from cable to fibre oct 4th so will loose my cable DVR box.
    my plex server is a Dell 7090 micro form with 16GB ram and 4 terabyte HD.

    ... Behind every good computer - is a jumble of wire.

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Denn on Wed Sep 25 12:20:06 2024
    Re: Good reason not to run a BBS at home...
    By: Denn to Nightfox on Wed Sep 25 2024 11:46 am

    Yeah same here, I've had a plex server setup for years, I have 1000+ movies and series on it with a folder for holiday music. The TV tuner with DVR sounds interesting, I will have to check that out. I'm switching from cable to fibre oct 4th so will loose my cable DVR box. my plex server is a Dell 7090 micro form with 16GB ram and 4 terabyte HD.

    I believe the DVR feature of Plex requires a Plex Pass (although Plex can still use a TV tuner and stream live TV without DVR for free). I bought a lifetime Plex Pass several years ago when it was on sale, and I think I've made good use of it. Plex Pass also enables some other features, such as hardware transcoding, Skip Intro, and skipping commercials (for content recorded via DVR) that may be useful to you as well.

    Nightfox

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  • From Amessyroom@1:103/705 to nelgin on Wed Sep 25 13:44:04 2024
    Sorry to hear of your issues and outage. Best luck in resolving them quickly.

    I currently use a VPS for my bbs and love it; I choose to do so more because I figured there would be less fighting/guessing with VPS provider than my ISP LOL. Hope I made the right choice.

    Look forward to your system coming back online with the extra space! Hope it isn't a drawn out issue. good luck.

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  • From Bf2k+@1:103/705 to nelgin on Wed Sep 25 16:26:34 2024
    Re: Good reason not to run a BBS at home...
    By: nelgin to All on Wed Sep 25 2024 12:57 am

    This is not how I wanted to spend my Tuesday night!

    I feel your pain. Earlier this year, I was just sitting here on my new PC doing some stuff when all of a sudden, my BBS PC just shut down... ??? out of the clear blue.

    Long story short, by the end of the evening, I had thrown the CPU and motherboard in the trash, and was running on a spare mb & CPU.

    The story is a LOT longer and more interesting than this but this is the gist of it.

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  • From Mike Dippel@3:712/1321.5 to NELGIN on Wed Sep 25 20:54:52 2024
    On 9/25/2024 1:02 AM, nelgin wrote to All:

    I replaced my 4x6tb RAID 10 disks with a sinlge 12tb until I had time to get the 2nd disk and install it.

    Tonight was the night, shut the server down, added the 2nd disk, booted up fine
    but I heard some random plinking inside. Obviously something was hitting a fan...there are 6 fans, 3 at the front, one in the rear, the CPU fan and the fan in the PSU.

    Quickly shutting down, turned off the power and checked everything. I couldn't
    find anything so it must have been something under the slider my tower is on hitting the power supply fan.

    Pulled in the power, flipped the switch and got a white led flash to show there's power. Hit the power on button...nothing.

    Powered off, rechecked all the connectors for fans, switch, checked memory and
    card slots. Tried again...nada. Looks like I somehow fried my motherboard.

    I'll dig my power supply tester out tomorrow. Last thing I want to do is replace the motherboard. I'm at the age now where that sort of thing isn't fun,
    it's a waste of time chore.

    This is not how I wanted to spend my Tuesday night!

    Save your BBS uptime, get a VPS!

    I run 2 BBS's, one on a remote server and one at home. The remote costs me $70 per
    year and runs on Windows server edition. My home computer runs Windows 10. I do
    admit that the remote runs almost flawlessly, but I have only had one problem with the
    home server because I was travelling and it did an automatic update and wasn't set up
    to reboot correctly.

    Now, I use Chrome Remote Desktop which allows me to control it from anywhere I happen to be.

    I assume you had a backup available incase you had to switch to another computer?

    Mike Dippel
    https://www.youtube.com/@MichaelDippel

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  • From Rixter@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu Sep 26 03:59:30 2024
    Re: Good reason not to run a BBS at home...
    By: Denn to nelgin on Wed Sep 25 2024 07:52 am

    Yeah, a few years ago I bought a small used Dell PC from eBay and am currently using that for my BBS. I also run Plex Media Server on the same PC to stream my (ripped) movies & TV shows so I don't have to get the discs out every time I want to play them (and I also don't have to rely on streaming services, which might remove content). I also have a TV tuner set up with my Plex media server, and I use it to DVR some shows from TV to watch later (usually game shows like Jeopardy, Beat Shazam, etc.). That's the kind of thing I think would work best to run at home, and I figure I might as well also run my BBS on it. I rarely have problems with my computer setups at home, and I like having direct access to them. And VPS or other online hosting solution can have different issues - sometimes they have their own outages, etc..

    Nightfox

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    We do the same thing here with. 10 tb external drive serving up all our movies and old shows for tv viewing needs and as file storage for our pcs and the bbs. It works great.

    telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
    http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
    Madison,NC

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  • From KnightMare@1:103/705 to MRO on Sat Sep 28 16:24:14 2024
    Re: Good reason not to run a BBS at home...
    By: MRO to nelgin on Wed Sep 25 2024 07:10 am

    vpses suck. I tried them for years. it's hard to find a good provider
    and the ones i've seen bbs people use are a rip off.
    I prefer a dedicated server. i use ovh.
    So have I and like you, i don't like them for one reason or another.

    I'm rocking 2 Dell PowerEdge R610's running 17 VM's w/o a burp.
    (Of course, now I may have jinxd it by typing that...)

    My ISP is Glo Fiber. I'm getting 1.2Gb/s both ways.

    I live in Fayette County, Ohio and actually have had to shut everything down for 4 hours, because of the massive thunderstorms we've had the past 3 days with yesterday, being the most severe.

    At last count before the power down, they were both at ~1,215.77 days of uptime.

    Not too shabby... I like to have control of what I need, when I need it.


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