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  • Box-drawing characters 182 and 199 absent in syncdraw

    From Anton Shepelev@1:103/705 to DOVE-Net.Synchronet_Discussion on Tue Jan 10 01:19:22 2023
    I beg everyone's pardon for this clumsy intrusion into
    unknown territory, but this is all I can do to contact
    the developers and experienced users of `syncdraw' via
    NNTP. Its ALT+F1..F10 palettes do not seem to contain
    such pseudographical characters as ## 182 and 199 in
    terms of CP 437, which prevents junctions between ver-
    tical double-width and horisontal single-width lines.
    Are they absent by design?

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Anton Shepelev on Mon Jan 9 15:18:48 2023
    Re: Box-drawing characters 182 and 199 absent in syncdraw
    By: Anton Shepelev to DOVE-Net.Synchronet_Discussion on Tue Jan 10 2023 01:19 am

    I beg everyone's pardon for this clumsy intrusion into
    unknown territory, but this is all I can do to contact
    the developers and experienced users of `syncdraw' via
    NNTP. Its ALT+F1..F10 palettes do not seem to contain
    such pseudographical characters as ## 182 and 199 in
    terms of CP 437, which prevents junctions between ver-
    tical double-width and horisontal single-width lines.
    Are they absent by design?

    SyncDraw is a fork of MysticDraw (no relation to MysticBBS). You can reach teh SyncDraw maintainer, Deuce, in #synchronet at irc.synchro.net

    The MysticDraw author recently posted on one of the message networks (fsxNet? FidoNet?) about resuming or restarting that project, so you may be able to find and ask the original author directly.
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Anton Shepelev on Mon Jan 9 17:54:52 2023
    Re: Box-drawing characters 182 and 199 absent in syncdraw
    By: Anton Shepelev to DOVE-Net.Synchronet_Discussion on Tue Jan 10 2023 01:19 am

    I beg everyone's pardon for this clumsy intrusion into
    unknown territory, but this is all I can do to contact
    the developers and experienced users of `syncdraw' via
    NNTP. Its ALT+F1..F10 palettes do not seem to contain
    such pseudographical characters as ## 182 and 199 in
    terms of CP 437, which prevents junctions between ver-
    tical double-width and horisontal single-width lines.
    Are they absent by design?

    https://i.imgur.com/IibsieP.png

    and good job deuce for not updating your email
    https://i.imgur.com/zeKVWxp.png
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  • From Anton Shepelev@1:103/705 to All on Tue Jan 10 15:28:20 2023
    MRO to Anton Shepelev:

    I beg everyone's pardon for this clumsy intrusion
    into unknown territory, but this is all I can do to
    contact the developers and experienced users of
    `syncdraw' via NNTP. Its ALT+F1..F10 palettes do not
    seem to contain such pseudographical characters as
    ## 182 and 199 in terms of CP 437, which prevents
    junctions between vertical double-width and horison-
    tal single-width lines. Are they absent by design?

    https://i.imgur.com/IibsieP.png

    Many thanks for a direct image link that does not lead
    some bloated webpage!

    Ouch -- you have font smoothing (aka BlearType) on,
    which is so UnANSIstematic. Please, take a closer look
    at the characters in `syncdraw' and in the terminal win-
    dow, for they are different. The ones in the terminal
    are those that I seek, and do not find, in the ANSI edi-
    tor. The ones in `syncdraw' are ## 185 and 204.

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  • From Gamgee@1:123/115 to Anton Shepelev on Tue Jan 10 07:39:00 2023
    Anton Shepelev wrote to All <=-

    MRO to Anton Shepelev:

    I beg everyone's pardon for this clumsy intrusion
    into unknown territory, but this is all I can do to
    contact the developers and experienced users of
    `syncdraw' via NNTP. Its ALT+F1..F10 palettes do not
    seem to contain such pseudographical characters as
    ## 182 and 199 in terms of CP 437, which prevents
    junctions between vertical double-width and horison-
    tal single-width lines. Are they absent by design?

    https://i.imgur.com/IibsieP.png

    Many thanks for a direct image link that does not lead
    some bloated webpage!

    Ouch -- you have font smoothing (aka BlearType) on,
    which is so UnANSIstematic. Please, take a closer look
    at the characters in `syncdraw' and in the terminal win-
    dow, for they are different. The ones in the terminal
    are those that I seek, and do not find, in the ANSI edi-
    tor. The ones in `syncdraw' are ## 185 and 204.

    Use 'TheDraw' (DOS program). Pressing Alt-F4 brings up the character
    set you want.



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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Anton Shepelev on Tue Jan 10 08:46:40 2023
    Re: Re: Box-drawing characters 182 and 199 absent in syncdraw
    By: Anton Shepelev to All on Tue Jan 10 2023 03:28 pm

    https://i.imgur.com/IibsieP.png

    Many thanks for a direct image link that does not lead
    some bloated webpage!

    Ouch -- you have font smoothing (aka BlearType) on,
    which is so UnANSIstematic. Please, take a closer look

    and you are super wordy.
    those characters are ascii, not ansi.

    at the characters in `syncdraw' and in the terminal win-
    dow, for they are different. The ones in the terminal
    are those that I seek, and do not find, in the ANSI edi-
    tor. The ones in `syncdraw' are ## 185 and 204.

    oh, now i know what you mean. i was drowned a bubbling brook of babble.

    just use a different ansi editor.
    or contact the author.
    nobody uses mysticdraw/syncdraw so they didn't notice.

    get a copy of thedraw registered
    https://i.imgur.com/S4YJ4KC.png

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  • From Anton Shepelev@1:103/705 to All on Wed Jan 11 00:16:12 2023
    MRO to Anton Shepelev:

    Ouch -- you have font smoothing (aka BlearType)
    on, which is so UnANSIstematic. Please, take a
    closer look

    and you are super wordy. those characters are
    ascii, not ansi.

    I meant the general aesthetics of ANSI-art, and no,
    those characters are not part of the ASCII 7-bit en-
    coding:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII#/media/File:USASCII_code_chart.png

    Please, take a closer look at the characters in
    `syncdraw' and in the terminal win- dow, for they
    are different. The ones in the terminal are those
    that I seek, and do not find, in the ANSI editor.
    The ones in `syncdraw' are ## 185 and 204.

    oh, now i know what you mean. i was drowned a bub-
    bling brook of babble.

    Is my writing *that* bad?

    just use a different ansi editor. or contact the
    author. nobody uses mysticdraw/syncdraw so they
    didn't notice.

    I will try. This being Synchronet, I thought `sync-
    draw' would be a bit more popular here...

    get a copy of thedraw registered
    https://i.imgur.com/S4YJ4KC.png

    I never managed to get a properly registered, rathen
    than brutally cracked, copy of the latest version of
    TheDraw. I have tried some that claimed to be "regis-
    tered", but they were either old, or buggy, or
    cracked, or all of those. Futhermore, I prefer a Free
    program to a proprietary one.

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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Anton Shepelev on Tue Jan 10 17:05:18 2023
    Re: Re: Box-drawing characters 182 and 199 absent in syncdraw
    By: Anton Shepelev to All on Wed Jan 11 2023 12:16 am

    I meant the general aesthetics of ANSI-art, and no,
    those characters are not part of the ASCII 7-bit en-
    coding:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII#/media/File:USASCII_code_chart.png dude, do you realize that wikipedia is just a website that anybody can edit. that's high ascii.


    I will try. This being Synchronet, I thought `sync-
    draw' would be a bit more popular here...

    it's not.

    I never managed to get a properly registered, rathen
    than brutally cracked, copy of the latest version of
    TheDraw. I have tried some that claimed to be "regis-
    tered", but they were either old, or buggy, or

    there is a registered version of thedraw out there with additional
    files that go with the registered version. it's not 'brutally cracked'. there is also another copy out there where it's an old version hexedited to seem like the last version. and did you just call something involved with bbsing old?
    the bbs hobby IS old.


    cracked, or all of those. Futhermore, I prefer a Free
    program to a proprietary one.

    you get what you pay for. enjoy. there's also a lot of other ansi editors
    you could use.

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