There are a couple of CASES that claim to fit
the Pi5 - mostly wi-fi blocking metal - but
no actual Pi5's yet.
There are a couple of CASES that claim to fit
the Pi5 - mostly wi-fi blocking metal - but
no actual Pi5's yet.
There are a couple of CASES that claim to fit
the Pi5 - mostly wi-fi blocking metal - but
no actual Pi5's yet.
On 01/12/2023 03:44, 56g.1173 wrote:
There are a couple of CASES that claim to fit
the Pi5 - mostly wi-fi blocking metal - but
no actual Pi5's yet.
It has been a massively popular brute.
On 12/1/23 03:44, 56g.1173 wrote:
There are a couple of CASES that claim to fit
the Pi5 - mostly wi-fi blocking metal - but
no actual Pi5's yet.
If you do buy one, make sure you buy the official USB PSU.
I bought a rPi5 without the official USB PSU, and it doesn't work with a standard USB plug. So now I'm waiting for the out of stock 5 amp, 5v,
USB charger.
None of this nonsense, with the Orange Pi 5, it runs on standard USB kit.
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 10:51:48 +0000
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
I am rapidly realising there is no 'standard' USB...
At least 4 standards exist.
It's multi-dimensional. There are standards for the connectors and wiring labelled with letters A, B, C and micro (also non-standard ones labelled mini), then there are standards for the data labelled with numbers 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 etc. and finally there are standards (some
de-facto) and non-standards for power delivery with names of ever
increasing length culminating in (so far) "USB Power Delivery Programmable Power Supply" with its cable warming 240 watt rating.
Not all combinations are possible and fewer are permitted by the standards but there is still plenty of room for diversity.
I am rapidly realising there is no 'standard' USB...
At least 4 standards exist.
On 12/1/23 03:44, 56g.1173 wrote:
There are a couple of CASES that claim to fit
the Pi5 - mostly wi-fi blocking metal - but
no actual Pi5's yet.
If you do buy one, make sure you buy the official USB PSU.
I bought a rPi5 without the official USB PSU, and it doesn't work with a standard USB plug. So now I'm waiting for the out of stock 5 amp, 5v,
USB charger.
None of this nonsense, with the Orange Pi 5, it runs on standard USB kit.
On 02/12/2023 11:25, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 10:51:48 +0000
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
I am rapidly realising there is no 'standard' USB...Not all combinations are possible and fewer are permitted by the standards but there is still plenty of room for diversity.
IOW what we call here 'a right buggers muddle'
Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
It's multi-dimensional. There are standards for the connectors and >> wiring labelled with letters A, B, C and micro (also non-standard onesIOW what we call here 'a right buggers muddle'
labelled mini), then there are standards for the data labelled with
numbers
1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 etc. and finally there are standards (some
de-facto) and non-standards for power delivery with names of ever
increasing length culminating in (so far) "USB Power Delivery
Programmable
Power Supply" with its cable warming 240 watt rating.
Not all combinations are possible and fewer are permitted by the
standards but there is still plenty of room for diversity.
Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote:
On 12/1/23 03:44, 56g.1173 wrote:Very often it's down to the USB cable you use, many/most are simply
There are a couple of CASES that claim to fit
the Pi5 - mostly wi-fi blocking metal - but
no actual Pi5's yet.
If you do buy one, make sure you buy the official USB PSU.
I bought a rPi5 without the official USB PSU, and it doesn't work with a
standard USB plug. So now I'm waiting for the out of stock 5 amp, 5v,
USB charger.
None of this nonsense, with the Orange Pi 5, it runs on standard USB kit.
not up to carrying the current (especially at start-up) that RPis
need. I have two Pi 4s and they are fairly fussy (not as fussy as a 5
of course) and they will run on 2.5 amp USB outlets but only with a
good, preferably short, USB cable.
Also, of course, a USB 1 or 2 outlet has a maximum specified current
output of only 500mA and even USB 3 is only supposed to be 900mA.
Many outlets can supply more but on the other hand USB sockets on
laptops and such are often only capable of the USB standard current
outputs.
Having just punted for a new phone I'm now having to switch to USB-C
cables. I've managed to acquire over 30 USB micro-B cables over the last
11 years.
A few weird and wonderful non-standard connectors did exist, typically
on cameras.
On 01/12/2023 22:59, Pancho wrote:
On 12/1/23 03:44, 56g.1173 wrote:It seems every Pi has a different power connector.
There are a couple of CASES that claim to fit
the Pi5 - mostly wi-fi blocking metal - but
no actual Pi5's yet.
If you do buy one, make sure you buy the official USB PSU.
4B tripped me up with USB 'C' which is different from Zero and Pico.
I bought a rPi5 without the official USB PSU, and it doesn't work with aI am rapidly realising there is no 'standard' USB...
standard USB plug. So now I'm waiting for the out of stock 5 amp, 5v,
USB charger.
None of this nonsense, with the Orange Pi 5, it runs on standard USB kit.
At least 4 standards exist.
mm0fmf wrote:I was surprised just how long it's been till I ended up with USB C on
Having just punted for a new phone I'm now having to switch to USB-C
cables. I've managed to acquire over 30 USB micro-B cables over the
last 11 years.
I started moving to type-C devices in 2015, with a Nokia N1 tablet. All
my 'daily' devices (laptops, phones, mice, keyboards, dock, chargers)
are now type C.
I have a handful of 'specialised' devices that are still mini/micro
type-B but not worth junking just for the hell of it.
On 01/12/2023 22:59, Pancho wrote:
On 12/1/23 03:44, 56g.1173 wrote:It seems every Pi has a different power connector.
There are a couple of CASES that claim to fit
the Pi5 - mostly wi-fi blocking metal - but
no actual Pi5's yet.
If you do buy one, make sure you buy the official USB PSU.
4B tripped me up with USB 'C' which is different from Zero and Pico.
I bought a rPi5 without the official USB PSU, and it doesn't work with aI am rapidly realising there is no 'standard' USB...
standard USB plug. So now I'm waiting for the out of stock 5 amp, 5v,
USB charger.
None of this nonsense, with the Orange Pi 5, it runs on standard USB kit.
At least 4 standards exist.
Can anyone guess which XKCD cartoon this is? :-)
https://xkcd.com/927/
The trick being the USB standard expects higher power devices to boost
the voltage, that is how fast phone chargers work. However, the rPi5
expects 27W at 5.1V, not at a higher voltage.
I bought a rPi5 without the official USB PSU, and it doesn't work with a standard USB plug. So now I'm waiting for the out of stock 5 amp, 5v,
USB charger.
On 01/12/2023 22:59, Pancho wrote:
I bought a rPi5 without the official USB PSU, and it doesn't work with
a standard USB plug. So now I'm waiting for the out of stock 5 amp,
5v, USB charger.
Unless you need a lot of power for PCIe or USB devices, the Raspberry Pi
4B's 3A charger will work fine.
the Raspberry Pi
4B's 3A charger will work fine.
On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 20:44:35 +0000, druck <news@druck.org.uk>
wrote:
the Raspberry Pi
4B's 3A charger will work fine.
Let's call it a PSU (Power Supply Unit), it is not a charger.
Let's call it a PSU (Power Supply Unit), it is not a charger.
It supports USB-PD so you can use it to charge a phone.
On Tue, 2023-12-05 at 16:34 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
Let's call it a PSU (Power Supply Unit), it is not a charger.
It supports USB-PD so you can use it to charge a phone.
I can attest to that , I've used it to keep an Apple MacBook Pro alive
when I left the power supply behind at the office!
On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 17:05:21 +0000
Single Stage to Orbit <alex.buell@munted.eu> wrote:
On Tue, 2023-12-05 at 16:34 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
Let's call it a PSU (Power Supply Unit), it is not a charger.
It supports USB-PD so you can use it to charge a phone.
I can attest to that , I've used it to keep an Apple MacBook Pro
alive
when I left the power supply behind at the office!
Not so much a charger as a battery life extender?
On Tue, 2023-12-05 at 17:43 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 17:05:21 +0000
Single Stage to Orbit <alex.buell@munted.eu> wrote:
On Tue, 2023-12-05 at 16:34 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
I can attest to that , I've used it to keep an Apple MacBook ProLet's call it a PSU (Power Supply Unit), it is not a charger.
It supports USB-PD so you can use it to charge a phone. >>>
alive
when I left the power supply behind at the office!
Not so much a charger as a battery life extender?
Emergency Life Support for Apple products, more like. Sorry I've been watching too many pre 1970s Doctor Who episodes.
"Who" is in BIG DEMAND outside the UK. Such a
long-running, complex, series is intriguing.
It's "very British" and the historical/artistic
value is huge.
As for Apple ... well ... it's become as "evil"
as M$ - almost a cult in fact. Hate 'em.
On 2023-12-06, 56g.1173 <56g.1173@ztq9.net> wrote:
"Who" is in BIG DEMAND outside the UK. Such a
long-running, complex, series is intriguing.
It's "very British" and the historical/artistic
value is huge.
Although I had heard of it for some time, I never
actually watched it until several years ago, when
I started at the 2005 reboot. It has a kind of
quirkiness that I like.
As for Apple ... well ... it's become as "evil"
as M$ - almost a cult in fact. Hate 'em.
Hence the .sig I created a few years ago. See below.
Could NEVER impress on them that Winders is just
the seagull-befouled tip of the proverbial iceberg
and Linux/Unix is the REAL computing world.
Guess I'll get a GitHub page and put useful "utilities"
on it. Prevents brain rot. Linux/Unix/Pi ARE the
Better Way.
On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 10:51:48 +0000
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
I am rapidly realising there is no 'standard' USB...
At least 4 standards exist.
It's multi-dimensional. There are standards for the connectors and wiring labelled with letters A, B, C and micro (also non-standard ones labelled mini), then there are standards for the data labelled with numbers 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 etc. and finally there are standards (some
de-facto) and non-standards for power delivery with names of ever
increasing length culminating in (so far) "USB Power Delivery Programmable Power Supply" with its cable warming 240 watt rating.
56g.1173 <56g.1173@ztq9.net> wrote:
Could NEVER impress on them that Winders is just
the seagull-befouled tip of the proverbial iceberg
and Linux/Unix is the REAL computing world.
Guess I'll get a GitHub page and put useful "utilities"
on it. Prevents brain rot. Linux/Unix/Pi ARE the
Better Way.
But you choose Microsoft's way to host open-source software?!
Put them on your own website, and unlike M$/GitHub don't fill it
full of pointless, poorly-compatible, Javascript just in order to
show a directory listing!
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