nospam wrote:
In article <t39qae$12jc$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:
Didn't nospam advocate for iPhone dongles to replace the missing
aux port?
no, nor has there ever been an 'aux port' to go missing.
Semantics.
nope.
A GSM Arena search <https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?> calls it:
"3.5mm jack"
What do you want to call the "courageous" missing port then?
analog headphone jack, which is not the same as an 'aux port'.
A search shows 6,476 "courageous" phones that have the industry standard functionality of the 3.5mm jack which does many things which are
_impossible_ do to without (just as an sd card does useful things which
are impossible to do without).
This is a list of the phones that support the industry standard 3.5mm jack. <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?chk35mm=selected>
Unfortunately the laughably primitive latest iPhones aren't in that list.
Hell, there's not even a _single_ iPhone ever made with a modern battery.
And modern functionality of a fast charger is missing from the iPhone box.
So are the missing headphones which made Apple tens of billions of dollars!
Nobody ever said Apple wasn't a MARKETING powerhouse of the finest order.
One by one, Apple's strategy is to _cripple_ the laughably archaic iPhone.
So that you're forced to buy back basic functionality Apple has removed.
And why did you advocate for dongles to replace that missing
functionality?
i didn't, mainly because there is no need for any dongle.
Apple removed the basic industry standard functionality of a wired headset.
If Apple hadn't removed the basic functionality, there wouldn't be the
need.
the headphones *in* *the* *box* plugged directly into the phone without
needing anything extra.
What headphones comes *in the box" with the latest iPhones, nospam?
On 4/16/2022 1:40 PM, meff wrote:
On 2022-04-16, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
Parallel ports are still used as control interfaces to small CNC >>> machines in preference to USB because they provide better real time
control. Old computers with parallel ports command a surprising premium
because of this.
Yeah I'm fully aware that there are situations that parallel ports
make more sense, and latency is a big one. Same with Serial ports as
there's no bring-up or negotiation process required along the port
(and if you can drive the serial port faster than the parallel port,
then it could potentially have higher throughput.) But not for most
consumer usecases.
It's become harder to directly read from, and write to, the parallel
port when using Windows versions beginning with Windows 7, as well as
more difficult because the I/O addresses are no longer the legacy ISA >parallel port addresses. Of course you can still use MS-DOS or FreeDOS
if you're doing embedded systems control through the parallel port.
Not sure how this thread went from wired keyboards to 3.5mm audio jacks
(when did 1/8" audio jacks become 3.5mm jacks?).
In article <t3fg8q$mum$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
The 3.5mm connector was used for a wide variety of devices that plugged
into a phone, devices that needed only a low-speed interface with
minimal power. Since it was on every phone, and there were no royalties
associated with it, it became the de facto "universal interface" for
both iPhones and Android phones.
Some of the devices were:
€ High quality microphones when doing video recording
€ Light meters
€ IR Blasters
€ Credit card readers (Square originally used the headphone jack)
€ Amplified high-quality speakers
€ Breathalyzer
€ Laser Pointer
€ Level
€ Thermometer
€ FM Radio Antenna (for Android)
all of those can be done more easily, more reliably and with more >functionality by using lightning or usb-c, and in some cases,
bluetooth.
And of course the 3.5mm headphone jack provides better quality audio
than Bluetooth,
it does not.
the limiting factor is the transducer itself, not the connection method.
though the Lightning to 3.5mm and USB to 3.5mm dongles
are just as good, it's just that the D/A and A/D are duplicated in the
dongle. It's just an annoyance to have to buy and carry along one extra
item.
then get usb-c or lightning headphones, such as the ones that were
included in the box of the iphone you supposedly have.
Whenever you detect a potential emotional bias to a narrative, the implication that those not 'with it' are incurable Neanderthals, an/or research that implies that '97% of everybody who counts believes in it'
you may be sure its snake oil...
Dude. Then explain this message if Apple doesn't _require_ periodic login: >> <https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg>
what part of 'sign in again' is not clear?
nothing has been disabled.
if it had, you wouldn't have been able to get anywhere near that far.
enter your apple id (likely autofilled) and the password, and it will
update whatever it needs to update.
One nice thing for hex coding was that the memory order made sense
(compared to that of the Intel MPUs).
yet you don't know the proper terminology, known as little-endian and big-endian, and you also don't know that the power pc supported both.
I wrote assembly code, nospam, for both the IBM (oh, what was it... 1130?... that was a loooong time ago, actually, I think it was the 1130 and then the 370 which was a much bigger machine -
but anyway - of course I know about
little endian and big endian memory addressing).
Hell... I even have the assembly language books to prove it! :)
The point on that iPad is that Apple _requires_ periodic sign in, nospam.
The iPad is a toy that I simply use to learn on.
Still rocking my 1st gen iPad, iPhone 4, and so on here. Arlen's a
clueless idiot who locks himself out of his own devices just so he can
turn around and troll the Apple newsgroups with bullshit fabricated
stories.
Try learning to read
take your own advice.
you are mindlessly blaming apple for the actions of ad tracking
companies, who ignored the user's choice to not be tracked and tracked
them anyway.
And from the news TODAY:
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/04/a-year-after-apple-enforces-app-tracking-policy-covert-ios-tracking-remains/
Jolly Roger wrote:
Still rocking my 1st gen iPad, iPhone 4, and so on here. Arlen's a
clueless idiot who locks himself out of his own devices just so he can
turn around and troll the Apple newsgroups with bullshit fabricated
stories.
The fact remains that I tested what you low-IQ morons denied for years. <https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg>
Apple requires you to periodically sign into the mothership; Google can't. <https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg>
The reason you low-IQ iKooks deny these facts is because you _hate_ them.
The fact that you can't make an iOS browser private
it's private by design.
fm radio is almost never used on a phone for a number of reasons,
smartphone apps can receive many hundreds if not thousands of fm radio stations from anywhere in the world, along with many other sources, and without the need to use headphones.
Since no iPhone ever had FM radio...
Really?
really. nor do almost all android phones as well as feature phones.
it's not something that is in any demand, let alone high demand.
really. nor do almost all android phones as well as feature phones.
it's not something that is in any demand, let alone high demand.
Bullshit
Go away
the opposite, where there's cellular service but little to no
terrestrial radio, is far more common, especially in the obscure places
you keep citing about verizon's supposedly fantastic coverage.
I just tried my Galaxy A5,and that worked as an FM radio (with data and
WiFi turned off). Not brilliant, but better than nothing. The
earphone/mic lead also acts as the aerial.
And while a good many phones do have FM as a feature, I would be a lot
of money that most people never use it or are even aware of it.
Do they? I couldn't find a single example
There's an Android OTG USB-C adapter for receiving ATSC digital TV
broadcasts on Android phones and tablets. See <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GPB6VFX>. It comes with two antennas.
adb devicesBoth commands are in this zip file <https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy>
scrcpy
adb connect 192.168.0.2:5555Where the "192.168.0.2" is the IP address of your phone on your LAN.
scrcpy
scrcpy --record foo.mp4
scrcpy -r bar.mkv
The point on that iPad is that Apple _requires_ periodic sign in, nospam.
it does not.
bullshit. you can't even get android sample code working and you expect people to believe you wrote assembly?
but anyway - of course I know about
little endian and big endian memory addressing).
then why didn't you use the correct terminology?
Hell... I even have the assembly language books to prove it! :)
of course you do, and along with the book on vacuum tubes, you were
able to write software for a vacuum tube computer.
The fact remains that I tested what you low-IQ morons denied for years.
<https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg>
Arlen desperately wants you to ignore the "Not Now" button in the above screenshot - just like he wants you to think that clicking that button
will supposedly result in your device suddenly bricking itself for no
reason. He's such a lazy troll. : )
Apple requires you to periodically sign into the mothership; Google can't. >> <https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg>
Arlen desperately wants you to ignore the fact that he had to dig deep
down into Settings to find that message - a message he could ignore if
he wanted to, but doesn't, because: troll. He's a lazy, old fool. ; )
The reason you low-IQ iKooks deny these facts is because you _hate_ them.
Notice how he hasn't stated a single fact in this thread. All Arlen has
are shitty opinions and lame insults. ; )
On 2022-04-20, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
Still rocking my 1st gen iPad, iPhone 4, and so on here. Arlen's a
clueless idiot who locks himself out of his own devices just so he can
turn around and troll the Apple newsgroups with bullshit fabricated
stories.
The fact remains that I tested what you low-IQ morons denied for years.
<https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg>
Arlen desperately wants you to ignore the "Not Now" button in the above screenshot - just like he wants you to think that clicking that button
will supposedly result in your device suddenly bricking itself for no
reason. He's such a lazy troll. : )
Apple requires you to periodically sign into the mothership; Google can't. >> <https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg>
Arlen desperately wants you to ignore the fact that he had to dig deep
down into Settings to find that message - a message he could ignore if
he wanted to, but doesn't, because: troll. He's a lazy, old fool. ; )
The reason you low-IQ iKooks deny these facts is because you _hate_ them.
Notice how he hasn't stated a single fact in this thread. All Arlen has
are shitty opinions and lame insults. ; )
the primary reason was to encourage the purchase of AirPods.
that is absolutely false.
Especially considering Apple included a set of Lightning headphones in
the box at the time. : )
*and* they included a lightning adapter.
it's hard to encourage buying something new when *two* solutions are
provided in the box.
It's a red herring to discuss the pros and cons since the reason
Apple removed the industry standard 3.5 mm jack was to make you buy
it back.
Incorrect.
Yes, he is incorrect. the primary reason was to encourage the purchase
of AirPods.
Just because you say so? Nah. No sale, sorry.
Well, maybe so, but he's always good for a laff.
Notice how he hasn't stated a single fact in this thread.
Has the shitbag ever stated a single fact in any thread?
Its not 'as if', it *is*.
We all know these sorts of people. They dint know how to verify any
knowledge for themselves so their validation consists in choosing who to believe.
My dear sister even said that 'well it depends which websites you believe'
As she assured me that German government was lying about its own nuclear power but was telling the exact truth about Chernobyl, that it was going
to kill 1/4 million people. And cover it up. Somehow.
Its called doublethink.
I call these people in general ArtSuidents™ because what is important to them is the emotional and moral tenor of their lives. They buy Apple
tech and German cars, because it makes them feel superior and good
about themselves. Another habit they have was vest describe by Rudyard Kipling - and acute psychologist - in 'the Jungle Book'.
"We are the greatest and the wisest people in the jungle...what we think
to day the world will think tomorrow ... we all say it, so it must be true!"
Bandar Log. The monkey people.
They are not stupid people, they are that most dangerous of species,
people who are a bit smart, but think they are a lot smarter than they
are, and as smart as anybody else.
But they are intellectually lazy: the short cut of simply receiving
someone else's wisdom instead of the hard work of acquiring some
themselves, is simply too tempting
In a political context they are called 'useful idiots' : they will latch
on to any 'new' idea and support it with fervour simply in order to be
as they see it 'ahead of the game'.
Marketing to this group consists in generating an emotional narrative
about the product that presents it in the light of being 'new,
promising, and full of hope - the obvious choice of an intelligent
person', Rather than 'true, useful, tried and tested'
Or as the Daily Mash put it 'clever science man say new shiny thing make everything better'
Whenever you detect a potential emotional bias to a narrative, the implication that those not 'with it' are incurable Neanderthals, an/or research that implies that '97% of everybody who counts believes in it'
you may be sure its snake oil...
Hank Rogers wrote:
Well, maybe so, but he's always good for a laff.
I'm going to give you one more of these kindergarten no-content
completely
childish always non technical responses before I plonk you "Hank
Rogers".
One more. And then plonk. No warning. Just plonk.
If you can't ever contribute as an adult to the actual topic, then
plonking
you _improves_ the value of the conversation here on this newsgroup.
One more. Then plonk.
Lewis wrote:
Has the shitbag ever stated a single fact in any thread?
Before I said the iKooks in this thread were:
a. Alan Baker (everyone has him plonked as he cannot add value)
b. nospam (most people keep him as he "can" add value
c. Jolly Roger (filled with kindergarten hateful vitriol)
And now, we have Jolly Roger's twin in kindergarten hate-filled
vitriol:
d. Lewis
For those who don't know, Lewis & Jolly Roger _hate_ every fact
about Apple
because the facts _hurt_ them deeply since they _believe_
everything Apple
told them.
I liken both of them to the fifth grade bully who was held back a
few years,
when someone who is years younger in the same grade tells him Santa
isn't
real.
Lewis: Santa exists. He's gonna give me an iPhone for Christmas.
Child: That's just a marketing gimmick. Your parents are Santa.
Lewis. No. I hate you! He exists! I saw him on an Apple
advertisement.
Child: That's how marketing works, Lewis. Don't believe Apple ads.
Lewis: Liar! Liar! Pants on fire! Apple said it. It must be true!
What Jolly Roger does is call all facts trolls; and what Lewis does
is call
all people who tell them facts, "shitbags". Just watch.
You can ask _why_ facts are so scary to these people but if you
understand
the Santa analogy, the fact alone _destroys_ their cuddly belief
systems.
They not only hate the facts - but they hate the mere messenger of
facts.
Just watch.
In article <t3n76u$ibl$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
And where do you go that has FM coverage...
...but no cellular data?
You're assuming that everyone has unlimited data with which to stream
radio stations.
you're assuming unlimited data is needed. it's not, largely because
most of the time, people are on wifi.
But actually, depending on the carrier, there are definitely places
where there is FM coverage but no cellular data.
very few.
cellular coverage on highways is *more* common than fm, and if the
audio is sent to the vehicle's sound system, it will be impossible
to hear a difference.
Again, if I can find the old board I wire wrapped, I'll snap a photo.
be sure to pose it with some textbooks.
BTW, did you also have a set of well-stocked parts bins like I do?
not anymore, although i might still have the wire wrap gun. that was a
cool device.
now i have a bunch of raspberry pis, various hats and a bunch of micro
sd cards.
It's a basic marketing principle, pushed by marketroids (and adopted as
an article of faith by J. Random Luser) since long before Apple existed:
"If we don't have it, you don't need it."
sms wrote:
Lewis is wrong of course.
The folks on the c.s.r.p group may not be familiar with the iKooks, where
all the iKooks have the _same_ response in _any_ topic that purports to mention the lack of basic functionality of their beloved product line.
In this case, it's FM radio - where they claim that it exists in another form, and that nobody wants it anyway, and that most phones don't have it, etc., all of which are always wrong since most phones _do_ have it.
Just not iPhones.
In article <t3uth2$1361$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:
Again, if I can find the old board I wire wrapped, I'll snap a photo.
be sure to pose it with some textbooks.
BTW, did you also have a set of well-stocked parts bins like I do?
not anymore, although i might still have the wire wrap gun. that was a
cool device.
now i have a bunch of raspberry pis, various hats and a bunch of micro
sd cards.
nospam wrote:
Again, if I can find the old board I wire wrapped, I'll snap a photo.
be sure to pose it with some textbooks.
The fact you completely lack education is why you deprecate textbooks.
BTW, did you also have a set of well-stocked parts bins like I do?
not anymore, although i might still have the wire wrap gun. that was a
cool device.
I doubt you have one nospam since you brazenly fabricate everything.
Let's see a picture of that wire-wrap gun, nospam, next to your iPhone.
Since my credibility is an asset, here's my _hand_ wire-wrap tool. <https://i.postimg.cc/6QkQrDBb/parts03.jpg>
And yes, you know that's my iPad since it's asking me to log in again: <https://i.postimg.cc/zDMxn7hb/parts02.jpg>
BTW, you deprecated my vacuum-tube experience, but do you have _any_ idea what that I/F injection tool is used for nospam?
I didn't think so.
You _fabricated_ everything you claimed, nospam.
Every word from you is a brazen fabrication which you _never_ back up.
now i have a bunch of raspberry pis, various hats and a bunch of micro
sd cards.
I don't believe a word you say nospam because you fabricate everything.
BTW, here's _my_ rasperry pi and the transducers to go along with it. <https://i.postimg.cc/zfbhdcxg/pi02.jpg> Pi and associated transducers
And to prove it's mine, here's a shot of it next to my iPad. <https://i.postimg.cc/CKFCmNWC/pi01.jpg> Raspberry Pi and associated parts
The difference between you and me is I don't fabricate my education.
You do.
Let's see a _single_ shot of your proof nospam.
Show us just one!
now i have a bunch of raspberry pis, various hats and a bunch of micro
sd cards.
...but no old, crufty books? No sale!
On 2022-04-22, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <t3uth2$1361$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:
Again, if I can find the old board I wire wrapped, I'll snap a photo.
be sure to pose it with some textbooks.
BTW, did you also have a set of well-stocked parts bins like I do?
not anymore, although i might still have the wire wrap gun. that was a
cool device.
now i have a bunch of raspberry pis, various hats and a bunch of micro
sd cards.
...but no old, crufty books? No sale!
My parts bin still has some of those Radio Shack parts.
<https://i.postimg.cc/D0mcbKNS/parts04.jpg> Radio Shack spare parts
those look like they're from the 1970s. why are they still unopened?
otherwise, mail order.
I don't remember ever doing mail order for basic TTL ICs, but maybe.
i did.
the back pages of popular electronics, radio electronics and similar magazines had numerous ads, including polypaks, james, olson,
lafayette, plus heathkit for entire kits.
<https://live.staticflickr.com/4009/4455981283_26760272eb_k.jpg> <https://live.staticflickr.com/2778/4455979995_b11b12c8c6_k.jpg>
I'd buy the Forest Mims' series and make circuits like with the 555 timer.
the 555 was an incredibly useful chip.
You've never told the truth in your life so why would I believe you now?
why would anyone believe someone who changes his nym more often than
his underwear?
At least I own a raspi (although it was given to me for free long ago).
only one? i have a bag full of them. they're cheap.
unfortunately, they're very backordered, with estimates that it will
resolve sometime in 2023, causing the prices on ebay to be ridiculously
high.
fortunately, i have a bunch which should last through the drought.
nospam wrote:
The iKooks can't ever formulate a sensible argument on ANY topic.
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