A few months ago I set up a private email server for my wife. I set it up properly and I even ensured compliance with the latest security gimmicks (SPF, DMARC, & DKIM.)

So for the first couple months, she was able to send mail to Gmail & Yahoo accounts with no issues. But she couldn't send email to hotmail accounts because of Microsoft elitism.

Now for some reason email to Gmail and Yahoo accounts goes to spam folders.

I looked into this, and apparently there's such a thing as "Google Postmaster Tools" where "postmasters" can kiss Google butts in order to improve their chances of delivering mail to inboxes. Kinda like how "webmasters" kiss Google butts in order to get their webpages indexed by Google.

There's no justifying it. These a-holes are out to police everything on the internet, to make sure that they 1) don't have any competition and 2) they ultimately get to monitor everyone's email.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

There's no justifying it. These a-holes are out to police everything on the internet, to make sure that they 1) don't have any competition and
2) they ultimately get to monitor everyone's email.

Yup. That was made clear a long time ago.

That's why I moved to Tutanota (just Tuta, now) for my email.


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A few months ago I set up a private email server for my wife. I set it up properly and I even ensured compliance with the latest security gimmicks (SPF,
DMARC, & DKIM.)

I would make sure your SPF record is correct. Gmail accounts have issues
with mail from synchronet bbses and that is the #1 culprit.

https://wiki.synchro.net/module:dyndns#spf

I know you are not likely running sychronet, but giving that a read might assist.


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There's no justifying it. These a-holes are out to police everything the internet, to make sure that they 1) don't have any competition an 2) they ultimately get to monitor everyone's email.

Yup. That was made clear a long time ago.

That's why I moved to Tutanota (just Tuta, now) for my email.

I'm going to give them a try. I'm compiling a list of free email providers that are willing to communicate with my private email server without hassle. So far, I've found one called "protonmail" to be friendly with it.

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I would make sure your SPF record is correct. Gmail accounts have issues with mail from synchronet bbses and that is the #1 culprit.

https://wiki.synchro.net/module:dyndns#spf

Thanks, I appreciate that tip. I verified that my SPF record is legit. In Gmail, I click "Show original message" and it shows that my SPF record passed, DMARC record passed, and DKIM record passed.

It's just pure elitism. I wasn't at the WEF so they don't trust me :)

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

That's why I moved to Tutanota (just Tuta, now) for my email.

I'm going to give them a try. I'm compiling a list of free email
providers that are willing to communicate with my private email server without hassle. So far, I've found one called "protonmail" to be
friendly with it.

Tutanota's not free. But I think the yearly fee is about only $1/week.

Remember the Google rule: If the service is free, YOU are the product.


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That's why I moved to Tutanota (just Tuta, now) for my email.

I'm going to give them a try. I'm compiling a list of free email providers that are willing to communicate with my private email serve without hassle. So far, I've found one called "protonmail" to be friendly with it.

Tutanota's not free. But I think the yearly fee is about only $1/week.

Remember the Google rule: If the service is free, YOU are the product.

Yes. Microsoft and Facebook both follow that rule too. I wonder what they are going to do when people finally start to do to them what they did to Democrats last year.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

Yes. Microsoft and Facebook both follow that rule too. I wonder what
they are going to do when people finally start to do to them what they
did to Democrats last year.

Cry.

Get laws passed (or try to, harder with Trump here) to make the competition harder.

I've been using Linux since early 2000 and I won't go back to Windows (at least on my personal hardware). I dropped gmail for anything other than my Android device login. I use Brave as my browser. Tutanota for my email. I don't install things like Facebook on my phone - because they can, and do, track your movements (that's why they push for you to install Messenger).

Am I invisible? Certainly not. But I'm significantly less public than most people.

Remember, I don't have to outrun the bear. I just have to outrun you. :)


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I've been using Linux since early 2000 and I won't go back to Windows
(at least on my personal hardware). I dropped gmail for anything other than my Android device login. I use Brave as my browser. Tutanota for
my email. I don't install things like Facebook on my phone - because
they can, and do, track your movements (that's why they push for you to install Messenger).

I've been using Linux since 2010. Joe S (patriotic Joe) has recently joined the club also.

I have a private email server set up with Postfix (open source email server for Linux.) With Postfix, I'm able to send/receieve email with a simple text-based email client called Mutt. But I have yet to properly configure Dovecot (for IMAP) and Roundcube (for webmail.) Once I get that stuff working I'll be ready to cut the cord from gmail.

Am I invisible? Certainly not. But I'm significantly less public than most people.

Good. Less is more. Once I get this email server up to par, my only potential spies will be the owners of the web hosting company that I use, but I doubt that they'd care to read my personal email.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

I have a private email server set up with Postfix (open source email server for Linux.) With Postfix, I'm able to send/receieve email with a simple text-based email client called Mutt. But I have yet to properly configure Dovecot (for IMAP) and Roundcube (for webmail.) Once I get
that stuff working I'll be ready to cut the cord from gmail.

I thought about doing that, but I'm too lazy. :)

Good. Less is more. Once I get this email server up to par, my only potential spies will be the owners of the web hosting company that I
use, but I doubt that they'd care to read my personal email.

You never know.

Chekhov's Gun Rule
This concept was popularized by Russian playwright and author Anton Chekhov. According to this principle, if a gun is placed on the mantle in the first act of a story, it should be fired by the third act.

Just because they don't want to read your email today doesn't mean they won't want to read it by the third act.


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Good. Less is more. Once I get this email server up to par, my only potential spies will be the owners of the web hosting company that I use, but I doubt that they'd care to read my personal email.

You never know.

Chekhov's Gun Rule

It's not the hosting company who will want to read my mail, but it's the other elitists who will try to infiltrate the hosting companies (another institution for them to ruin.)

I expect that some day the elitists are going to shut down the internet in favor of some private new protocol anyway ("Dear customers: due to climate change, which affects women and gulls, everyone must now use Googlenet instead of the internet.")

It's coming.. our days on the internet are numbered.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

It's not the hosting company who will want to read my mail, but it's
the other elitists who will try to infiltrate the hosting companies (another institution for them to ruin.)

Exactly. Or the Gov't who steps in with a "warrant" to tell your hosting company to give over your information - and not be allowed to tell you that it happened.

I expect that some day the elitists are going to shut down the internet
in favor of some private new protocol anyway.

I doubt that because:
1. The people who are intelligent enough to do that, simply won't. Or will subvert it in some way where it won't work correctly. Remember that Elitists are dumb.
2. The Elitsts are a very small percentage of the population. Having 99% of the population pissed at you all at the same time is a really bad life choice.


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I expect that some day the elitists are going to shut down the intern in favor of some private new protocol anyway.

I doubt that because:
1. The people who are intelligent enough to do that, simply won't. Or
will subvert it in some way where it won't work correctly. Remember
that Elitists are dumb.
2. The Elitsts are a very small percentage of the population. Having
99% of the population pissed at you all at the same time is a really bad life choice.

I felt some reassurance when I saw an ad on TV for Safari browser. Maybe the web is here to stay for now, but how difficult would it be for the average person to adapt to a world where the google play store replaces the web browser?

A class of people are being designed to think that they have to use an app for everything. Like, "I want to know what time Walmart closes so I'm gonna have to download the Walmart app."

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