• Tariffs have purpose

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to All on Sun Feb 2 06:51:28 2025
    The media is crying about the new tariffs (25% on Canada & Mexico, 10% on China.) Every article goes in the same direction: they predict prices on goods going up, and they try to scare the reader into being outraged.

    Even Trudeau has responded this way. All he talks about is "prices will go up and this will hurt Americans!"

    But none of these buttheads bother to talk about why the tariffs have been put into place. It's because guys like Trudeau don't want to protect our borders. While these idiots cry about "the Average Canadian won't be able to afford Orange Juice" the reality is that right now the average American can't afford to have another illegal immigrant sneak in from Canada.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Feb 2 08:21:54 2025
    On 02 Feb 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    The media is crying about the new tariffs (25% on Canada & Mexico, 10% on China.) Every article goes in the same direction: they predict prices on goods going up, and they try to scare the reader into being outraged.

    Even Trudeau has responded this way. All he talks about is "prices will
    go up and this will hurt Americans!"

    But none of these buttheads bother to talk about why the tariffs have
    been put into place. It's because guys like Trudeau don't want to
    protect our borders. While these idiots cry about "the Average Canadian won't be able to afford Orange Juice" the reality is that right now the average American can't afford to have another illegal immigrant sneak in from Canada.


    The 1000's of Billions of dollars its cost for all the illegals in the US now... think of all the money we'll save.

    Canadians can enter the US based on their Canadian passports... I say they need to apply for H-B2 visas, like other countries do, to enter the country. This might help keep the sketchy ones out.

    Well, mainly Allan...

    Canada makes 20% of the US car needs, this should be moved to the US and all the other things we need can be bought from other countries and or in the US.

    F#$K'em the US doesn't need a hostile trading partner.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Sun Feb 2 10:01:14 2025
    The 1000's of Billions of dollars its cost for all the illegals in the US now... think of all the money we'll save.

    We'll save money and we'll save lives too.

    Canadians can enter the US based on their Canadian passports... I say
    they need to apply for H-B2 visas, like other countries do, to enter the country. This might help keep the sketchy ones out.

    Yes. There are other countries that fit that description too. All non US residents should be required to apply for visas. It's ridiculous and unfair to allow people to enter without one just because they're from a certain country.

    Well, mainly Allan...

    I suspect that he's Chinese.

    Canada makes 20% of the US car needs, this should be moved to the US and all the other things we need can be bought from other countries and or
    in the US.

    All that stuff can be worked out later. The part that Trudeau and Senora Claudia don't get is that we need our borders strengthened, first and foremost. They're ignoring that whole aspect of it and they prefer to scare people instead. They are arrogant because their warnings stem from their own actions.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Feb 2 10:51:12 2025
    On 02 Feb 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    All that stuff can be worked out later. The part that Trudeau and Senora Claudia don't get is that we need our borders strengthened, first and foremost. They're ignoring that whole aspect of it and they prefer to scare people instead. They are arrogant because their warnings stem from their own actions.


    I just blew up a facebook group I belong to... Canadians living in the US... HAHAHAHA... Apparently its full of Libtards... I've done my work for the day!!!!

    GRIN

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Sun Feb 2 15:30:12 2025
    All that stuff can be worked out later. The part that Trudeau and Sen Claudia don't get is that we need our borders strengthened, first and foremost. They're ignoring that whole aspect of it and they prefer to scare people instead. They are arrogant because their warnings stem f their own actions.


    I just blew up a facebook group I belong to... Canadians living in the US... HAHAHAHA... Apparently its full of Libtards... I've done my work for the day!!!!

    Thank you!

    My wife is doing the same thing with her friends in Panama. She won't let anyone say nothin bad about Trump. She supports everything Trump does, including taking back the canal.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Mon Feb 3 09:18:00 2025
    The media is crying about the new tariffs (25% on Canada & Mexico, 10% on China.) Every article goes in the same direction: they predict prices on goods
    going up, and they try to scare the reader into being outraged.

    I question why they are higher on Mexico and Canada vs. China. When was
    the last time you picked something up that said it was "Made in Canada"?
    It was more likely made in Mexico, and many times more likely to have been
    made in China or SE Asia.

    Even Trudeau has responded this way. All he talks about is "prices will go up and this will hurt Americans!"

    Canada is retaliating by putting tariffs on many things made in the USA. Supposedly, most of them are made in "red" voting states. Bourbon is one
    of the products in question. Not sure how much bourbon Kentucky exports to Canada but it has the potential to hurt several business in this state (and some of them are not big businesses, either).

    But none of these buttheads bother to talk about why the tariffs have been put
    into place. It's because guys like Trudeau don't want to protect our borders. While these idiots cry about "the Average Canadian won't be able to afford Orange Juice" the reality is that right now the average American can't afford to have another illegal immigrant sneak in from Canada.

    I don't think it has anything to do with the borders. Last I read, Mexico
    was keen on working with Trump to reinstate the policy of holding migrants
    on their side of the border.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Feb 3 09:15:18 2025
    On 02 Feb 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    Thank you!

    My wife is doing the same thing with her friends in Panama. She won't let anyone say nothin bad about Trump. She supports everything Trump does, including taking back the canal.


    As is mine for the Dominican Republic. I was watching the news this morning. Mexico is sending 10,000 troops to the US/Mexico border and the the Premier of Ontario, Doug Ford, gave a word salad typical of a Liberal Democrat... I think Canada is doomed

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Mon Feb 3 10:42:28 2025
    The media is crying about the new tariffs (25% on Canada & Mexico, 10% o China.) Every article goes in the same direction: they predict prices on goods
    going up, and they try to scare the reader into being outraged.

    I question why they are higher on Mexico and Canada vs. China. When was the last time you picked something up that said it was "Made in Canada"? It was more likely made in Mexico, and many times more likely to have
    been made in China or SE Asia.

    I'm not sure what role China is playing in our border issue, other than being a suspected source of fentanyl.

    I was pleased to hear (earlier today) that the Mexican president has agreed to deploy 10,000 Mexican soldiers to the border in exchange for a delay in the planned tariff on their goods. (I'm starting to like Presidente Sheinbaum.)

    But Trudeau said that he'd rather deal with the tariffs than help us with
    the border (what day is trash day in Canada?)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Mon Feb 3 10:50:08 2025
    My wife is doing the same thing with her friends in Panama. She won't anyone say nothin bad about Trump. She supports everything Trump does including taking back the canal.


    As is mine for the Dominican Republic. I was watching the news this morning. Mexico is sending 10,000 troops to the US/Mexico border and
    the the Premier of Ontario, Doug Ford, gave a word salad typical of a Liberal Democrat... I think Canada is doomed

    The Mexican president is cooler than I thought! And she's not bad looking either!

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tue Feb 4 10:05:00 2025
    I question why they are higher on Mexico and Canada vs. China. When was the last time you picked something up that said it was "Made in Canada"? It was more likely made in Mexico, and many times more likely to have been made in China or SE Asia.

    I'm not sure what role China is playing in our border issue, other than being suspected source of fentanyl.

    The tarrifs have nothing to do with the border. If they did, then Trump
    would be placing them on our own border agents. If you have ever crossed
    back into the USA from Canada, you would know it is American agents (not Canadians) who decide if it is OK for you to cross into the USA.

    I was pleased to hear (earlier today) that the Mexican president has agreed to
    deploy 10,000 Mexican soldiers to the border in exchange for a delay in the planned tariff on their goods. (I'm starting to like Presidente Sheinbaum.)

    The current Mexican administration had already shown a lot of desire to work with us, before the tariffs.

    But Trudeau said that he'd rather deal with the tariffs than help us with
    the border (what day is trash day in Canada?)

    When was the last time you heard about thousands of people in a caravan
    that were trying to cross our Northern border?

    The main reason for the tariffs is "because he can."


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Feb 4 08:38:54 2025
    On 03 Feb 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    But Trudeau said that he'd rather deal with the tariffs than help us with the border (what day is trash day in Canada?)


    It came a few hours later...

    Trudeau is on his way out anyway..

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Feb 4 08:40:44 2025
    On 03 Feb 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    The Mexican president is cooler than I thought! And she's not bad looking either!


    You should see her after you've had a few cervezas

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Tue Feb 4 09:53:52 2025
    I'm not sure what role China is playing in our border issue, other than suspected source of fentanyl.

    The tarrifs have nothing to do with the border. If they did, then Trump would be placing them on our own border agents. If you have ever crossed back into the USA from Canada, you would know it is American agents (not Canadians) who decide if it is OK for you to cross into the USA.

    You're only taking into consideration people driving calmly through the ports of entry. That has always been under control. But do you doubt that there is a problem with illegals entering from unmonitored sections of the border?
    (Swayze Express)
    https://youtu.be/CSgvp4VHuzA

    deploy 10,000 Mexican soldiers to the border in exchange for a delay in planned tariff on their goods. (I'm starting to like Presidente Sheinbau

    The current Mexican administration had already shown a lot of desire to work with us, before the tariffs.

    Where do you see that? I heard news stories about her reluctance to assist with the border issue in the past:

    "Mexican president opposes Trump's immigration policies but vows to help those deported."
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/mexicos-president-opposes-trump-immigration -policies-vows-help-deporte-rcna188412

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Tue Feb 4 09:54:50 2025
    But Trudeau said that he'd rather deal with the tariffs than help us the border (what day is trash day in Canada?)


    It came a few hours later...

    Trudeau is on his way out anyway..

    That's what I meant by "what day is trash day?" :)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wed Feb 5 09:53:00 2025
    Where do you see that? I heard news stories about her reluctance to assist wit
    the border issue in the past:

    "Mexican president opposes Trump's immigration policies but vows to help those
    deported." https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/mexicos-president-opposes-trump-immigratio
    -policies-vows-help-deporte-rcna188412

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/elviadiaz/2025/02/04/canada-mexico
    -response-tariffs-trump-caved/78199335007/

    "It's not entirely clear whether Mexico and Canada played Donald Trump in his tariffs war, but it sure seems so -- at least, temporarily.

    "Mexico and Canada have outsmarted Trump by bolstering border security with measures already underway or that can easily be carried out."

    I look at it and think they mastered the "art of the deal" better than Trump did. Nothing like being able to convince someone you will do something
    "new" by continuing to do something you were already doing.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Wed Feb 5 15:02:18 2025
    Where do you see that? I heard news stories about her reluctance to assi wit

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/elviadiaz/2025/02/04/canada-

    I look at it and think they mastered the "art of the deal" better than Trump did. Nothing like being able to convince someone you will do something "new" by continuing to do something you were already doing.

    I appreciate the link, but are you serious? The information in that article is not very informative.

    "Canada reportedly had already laid out some of those border security measures and threw a few other things into the mix to please Trump."

    But when? And how? They didn't "lay anything out" that I can see. And if they did, what good came from it?

    "Back in 2019, then President Andrés Manuel López Obrador deployed thousands of soldiers to Mexico’s southern border to crack down on migrants heading to the U.S."

    If that's even true, then what good did it do? We broke all-time records for illegal crossings shortly after that "crackdown" began.

    The tariffs are still pending. Canada and Mexico have less than 1 month to show us what they can do.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu Feb 6 09:28:00 2025
    I appreciate the link, but are you serious? The information in that article is
    not very informative.

    The tariffs are still pending. Canada and Mexico have less than 1 month to sho
    us what they can do.

    They basically outplayed Trump.

    Them: "We will cave in to your demands and promise to do these things (that we area already doing...snicker...snicker...)."

    Trump: Does victory dance

    MAGAs: Think Trump actually did something.

    Seems to be working.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Thu Feb 6 08:00:22 2025
    MAGAs: Think Trump actually did something.

    Seems to be working.

    I just don't think that there's any proof that either Canada or Mexico "were going to do these things regardless." It sounds good for the left to say, but how come we didn't hear these "bold moves" until after Trump threatened tariffs?

    The media wants to make Trump look like an idiot, but they never reported this stuff before, so why now?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu Feb 6 10:59:00 2025
    I just don't think that there's any proof that either Canada or Mexico "were going to do these things regardless." It sounds good for the left to say, but how come we didn't hear these "bold moves" until after Trump threatened tariffs?

    The media wants to make Trump look like an idiot, but they never reported
    his
    stuff before, so why now?

    As I pointed out, I am pretty certain that the media did report that Mexico
    was being cooperative before Trump issued the tarrifs. I certainly heard
    about it *before* Trump announced tarrifs. Canada is the one I
    am not sure about.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Thu Feb 13 22:21:48 2025
    The tariffs are still pending. Canada and Mexico have less than 1 month sho
    us what they can do.

    They basically outplayed Trump.
    04/01/25 is the deadline. We shall see who comes out on top.
    My money is on the Red, White and the Blue.

    For years - Many countries treated the U.S. like suckers, w/ lopsided tariffs Costing the U.S. 200 Million dollars and the U.S. gaining a fraction in return.

    Other situations charging the U.S. 25 % and the U.S. charges them nothing. This stops under Trump. If they charge us, we charge them the same.
    It's called reciprocal tariffs.
    Why hasn't this been the U.S. Policy all along?

    Was this done to keep low prices, even so the retailer sells the product at
    a markup called a profit.

    Still seeing (it is quite early yet) smaller packages which used to be the larger variety of the same product and it is still slightly more
    expensive than what was the regular size within the supermarket, before these grocery items shrunk in size.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/1 to Gregory Deyss on Sat Feb 15 10:03:58 2025
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    Other situations charging the U.S. 25 % and the U.S. charges them
    nothing. This stops under Trump. If they charge us, we charge them the same. It's called reciprocal tariffs.
    Why hasn't this been the U.S. Policy all along?

    Because we were a net exporter of goods, materials and services and
    understand that tariffs would hurt American business?

    Still seeing (it is quite early yet) smaller packages which used to be
    the larger variety of the same product and it is still slightly more expensive than what was the regular size within the supermarket, before these grocery items shrunk in size.

    Shrinkflation has been going on for some time now, since the
    supply-chain issues of 2020-2022. It's a tool of corporate profits,
    which far outpace inflation during Biden's administration.




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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to KURT WEISKE on Sun Feb 16 10:01:00 2025
    Shrinkflation has been going on for some time now, since the
    supply-chain issues of 2020-2022. It's a tool of corporate profits,
    which far outpace inflation during Biden's administration.

    It has been going on a lot longer than that.


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/1 to Mike Powell on Sun Feb 16 10:35:28 2025
    Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

    Shrinkflation has been going on for some time now, since the
    supply-chain issues of 2020-2022. It's a tool of corporate profits,
    which far outpace inflation during Biden's administration.

    It has been going on a lot longer than that.

    Agreed, but the trajectory seems to have increased dramatically. That's
    what I'd meant to say.



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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to KURT WEISKE on Mon Feb 17 08:59:00 2025
    Shrinkflation has been going on for some time now, since the
    supply-chain issues of 2020-2022. It's a tool of corporate profits,
    which far outpace inflation during Biden's administration.

    It has been going on a lot longer than that.

    Agreed, but the trajectory seems to have increased dramatically. That's
    what I'd meant to say.

    There are no doubt some companies that are taking advantage. There are
    others that have been, or are, going under so either they are not as good
    at it or something else is amiss.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Thu Feb 20 09:02:00 2025
    In addition to that going on. Doge IS finding Billions of fraud, waste and abuse. But if you listen to liberal networks and lefty media they suggest there is nothing to see here.

    DOGE has found some low-hanging fruit (USAID) but they've also announced
    other "fraud" that involves their misunderstanding of system default dates
    and would indeed be "nothing to see here" if it were not so worrisome.

    Sites like CBS will tell you that 14 Billion worth of federal program cuts wer
    identified as approved spending. by whom Democrats who see a victim at every corner? Notice... they won't tell you the Whole Truth.
    Only what fits their narrative, hoping it becomes yours.

    Just because it is "approved spending" doesn't mean it is not wasteful.
    The Republicans have also approved many things that are a waste, too, I am sure. Hint - DOGE is also suggesting cuts to Defense spending, which is typically not something Democrats race to spend money on.

    The last election makes what liberals want irrelevant. Completely!

    Not really. A lot of people voted for Trump because they were tired of
    seeing their grocery bills go up and were tired of being unheared. So far, they've not received *any* relief at the grocery store. Others voted for him as the lesser of two evils... it was either him or someone who was completely incompetent as VP.

    Only the most partisan of Trump voters were looking for someone to "stick
    it to the liberals/left/Democrats." The rest just didn't want 4 more years
    of what we already had.


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/1 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Feb 20 07:43:30 2025
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Because we were a net exporter of goods, materials and services and
    understand that tariffs would hurt American business?

    would it? All I see here is the United States being taken advantage.

    A net exporter wants low tariffs and low costs to flood the market.

    In addition to that going on. Doge IS finding Billions of fraud, waste
    and abuse. But if you listen to liberal networks and lefty media they suggest there is nothing to see here.

    Just because you don't like the source doesn't mean the numbers are
    wrong - add them up yourself if you like.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doge-wall-of-receipts-shows-errors-tallying-billions-in-savings/

    DOGE's estimates include spent costs on contracts that they're not
    getting back and shouldn't be reflected as savings. Millions mistaken
    for Billions. Reflecting the same contracts multiple times.

    $2 billion, aproximately 0.1% of the federal budget. Hardly the panacea
    Musk touted. Admirable, but I also worry about a conflict of interest in
    these efforts. We have a man with billions in government subsidies who's auditing government spending.






    I believe that it's true, Billions of dollars have been found of
    fraud, waste abuse. More will be found still.

    Sites like CBS will tell you that 14 Billion worth of federal program
    cuts were identified as approved spending. by whom Democrats who see a victim at every corner? Notice... they won't tell you the Whole Truth. Only what fits their narrative, hoping it becomes yours.

    Rolling Stone too. - Why would any periodical alienate half the
    country? It's like they did not see the election map?
    That is just as stupid and as equal to Budweiser hiring a trans influencer, Crap beer anyway. Not a Fan. Even before the sissy.

    The last election makes what liberals want irrelevant. Completely!

    CBS and these other liberal networks are nothing more than a Democratic mouthpiece(s) I think we will find out (and very soon) that they are
    Not So Smug? Any More.

    It's going to be rather interesting to watch the show, because this is coming to a head. You will see the nay_sayers in the Liberal media
    begin to back-peddle. Attempting to save face and trying restore the confidence of the American people from a ever worsening reputation.
    They did this to themselves due to their vile hatred and arrogant behavior.

    These networks would rather sacrifice themselves vs giving the Trump Administration any credit for doing what other Presidential Administrations wish they did.

    ... I'm talking now. I'm talking, please. Does that sound familiar?

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Thu Feb 20 22:11:18 2025
    On 20 Feb 2025, Mike Powell said the following...

    In addition to that going on. Doge IS finding Billions of fraud, waste an
    abuse. But if you listen to liberal networks and lefty media they sugges
    there is nothing to see here.

    DOGE has found some low-hanging fruit (USAID) but they've also announced other "fraud" that involves their misunderstanding of system default
    dates and would indeed be "nothing to see here" if it were not so worrisome.
    Low hanging fruit? - I think its more than that.
    Several initiatives - many of them were outside the the United States.

    It is also concerning that there are Millions of people on the Social Security rolls that are past 130 years old and older.
    One of them is older than the United States itself.

    Just because it is "approved spending" doesn't mean it is not wasteful. The Republicans have also approved many things that are a waste, too, I
    am sure. Hint - DOGE is also suggesting cuts to Defense spending, which is typically not something Democrats race to spend money on.
    well, when we see The final List that DOGE has on the who's who -
    that could show who sponsored the spending, as in what party they belong to.

    For the moment it is mere speculation based on who are these people are.
    It is my opinion it is the Democrats that need victims.
    Republicans - not so much.

    The last election makes what liberals want irrelevant. Completely!
    Not really. A lot of people voted for Trump because they were tired of seeing their grocery bills go up and were tired of being unheared. So far, they've not received *any* relief at the grocery store. Others
    voted for him as the lesser of two evils... it was either him or someone who was completely incompetent as VP.

    I just remember the Biden Administration telling us that issues from
    Rising Costs at the Supermarket
    Illegal Immigration
    Inflation
    Other Problems
    That these issues were all resolved. They said "Things were better now."
    They were not.

    We all eat Mike. People in Blue States as well as Red States.
    We all have stomachs. Help is coming.
    Trump has only been in office for about 30 days.

    In 30 days Trump has done more positive things then Biden has done in his entire Presidency / I would even wage to say that Trump has done more in 30 days than Biden has done in his entire 50 year political career.

    Only the most partisan of Trump voters were looking for someone to "stick it to the liberals/left/Democrats." The rest just didn't want 4 more years of what we already had.
    After how vile they were and everything that they tried to do. You Betcha!
    No more calling a reporter a stupid SOB.
    No more mumbling or shuffling off, ignoring questions being shouted - ignored. No more Reporters being treated like cattle
    - w/ White House staff shouting Out! Everyone Out!
    No more words like malarkey, or phrases like "lying dog face pony soldier"
    No more "come on man" or "heres the deal"
    No more falling up a set of stairs or falling off a bicycle.
    and best of all No more Chinese Spy Balloons traversing across the country.

    Do I need to play this tune for the next four years, like a democrat pulls out the same set chapters from their playbook. Every Four Years.
    No. But then again Our Victory Lap - has only just begun.

    ... Still waitng for that Coffee :)

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Feb 21 08:20:42 2025
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    It is also concerning that there are Millions of people on the Social Security rolls that are past 130 years old and older. One of them is
    older than the United States itself.

    Most of those were probably data issues. But a simple audit every year would have caught them and they could easily fix those issues.

    But they didn't want to for many reasons.

    well, when we see The final List that DOGE has on the who's who -
    that could show who sponsored the spending, as in what party they
    belong to.

    For the moment it is mere speculation based on who are these people
    are. It is my opinion it is the Democrats that need victims.
    Republicans - not so much.

    Thomas Sowell quipped that Democrats don't want to help people until they become victims. Republicans want to keep people from becoming victims.

    I just remember the Biden Administration telling us that issues from Rising Costs at the Supermarket
    Illegal Immigration
    Inflation
    Other Problems
    That these issues were all resolved. They said "Things were better
    now." They were not.

    How do you know when an Elitist is lying? His lips move.

    We all eat Mike. People in Blue States as well as Red States.
    We all have stomachs. Help is coming.
    Trump has only been in office for about 30 days.

    Mike's just pushing the tired old false Narrative - that no one listens to anymore except the mentally ill.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Fri Feb 21 10:43:00 2025
    DOGE has found some low-hanging fruit (USAID) but they've also announced other "fraud" that involves their misunderstanding of system default dates and would indeed be "nothing to see here" if it were not so worrisome.
    Low hanging fruit? - I think its more than that.
    Several initiatives - many of them were outside the the United States.

    It was indeed low hanging fruit, an easy target and an easy win.

    It is also concerning that there are Millions of people on the Social
    ecurity
    rolls that are past 130 years old and older.
    One of them is older than the United States itself.

    I will wait to see how many of these people were actually getting paid. I won't hold my breath, though, and suggest you don't either. Some might be
    data issues, but a whole lot of it is going to turn out to be default dates that the system was likely built to interpret as a NULL value.

    If the system was using IBM DB2, Elon would have announced a bunch of 124
    year olds because, in DB2, a "null" date is represented as 19010101.
    Programs that find that know not to treat 19010101 as a valid date. Other systems use a date in 1875, hence his "a bunch of 150 year olds"
    announcement.

    Just because it is "approved spending" doesn't mean it is not wasteful. The Republicans have also approved many things that are a waste, too, I am sure. Hint - DOGE is also suggesting cuts to Defense spending, which is typically not something Democrats race to spend money on.

    well, when we see The final List that DOGE has on the who's who -
    that could show who sponsored the spending, as in what party they belong to.

    For the moment it is mere speculation based on who are these people are.
    It is my opinion it is the Democrats that need victims.
    Republicans - not so much.

    Again, the defense spending that is on the block is not likely a Democrat initiative, and has nothing to do with "victims."

    The last election makes what liberals want irrelevant. Completely!
    Not really. A lot of people voted for Trump because they were tired of seeing their grocery bills go up and were tired of being unheared. So far, they've not received *any* relief at the grocery store. Others voted for him as the lesser of two evils... it was either him or someone who was completely incompetent as VP.

    I just remember the Biden Administration telling us that issues from
    Rising Costs at the Supermarket Illegal Immigration Inflation
    Other Problems
    That these issues were all resolved. They said "Things were better now."
    They were not.

    True. Explain how renaming the Gulf of Mexico, pestering Canada about
    becoming a state, examining what it would take to take over Gaza, or
    pesting Denmark about Greenland will fix *ANY* of the issues you mentioned?

    We all eat Mike. People in Blue States as well as Red States.
    We all have stomachs. Help is coming.
    Trump has only been in office for about 30 days.

    And yet he has wasted those 30 days having the Gulf of Mexico renamed, and having a bunch of kids running around "accidentally" firing people. How
    has he had time for that, and golfing, instead of getting to the economy?

    Although gas has gone down (and started to *before* the election), the
    price of groceries here is still going up, and at a higher rate than it was right before the election.

    In 30 days Trump has done more positive things then Biden has done in his entire Presidency / I would even wage to say that Trump has done more in 30 days than Biden has done in his entire 50 year political career.

    Aside from stopping some of the USAID programs, and shipping out some undocumented aliens, a lot of it is really stupid stuff that didn't need doing.

    Only the most partisan of Trump voters were looking for someone to
    stick
    it to the liberals/left/Democrats." The rest just didn't want 4 more years of what we already had.

    Do I need to play this tune for the next four years, like a democrat pulls
    ut
    the same set chapters from their playbook. Every Four Years.
    No. But then again Our Victory Lap - has only just begun.

    As I said, most voters were not looking for that. They want their cost of living to go down.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Sat Feb 22 00:23:54 2025
    I will wait

    That's all any of us can do, is wait for the finding to become known.
    I am confident that the findings will be released.
    - that is what transparency in Government is all about.
    I am not suggesting that [everything will be on display] but the Trump Administration will be and has already been far more transparent than the Biden clown show.

    Trump overcame a lot of things that didn't need to happen.
    Case in New York - pointless.
    What is THAT other piece from Alvin "Cheeseburger" Brag that creates the felony? hmmm? We are S-T-I-L-L waiting aren't we? Huh..

    Make no mistake, NY did this for one reason and one reason only, so that they could coin the the phrase "Felon" providing optics and finger pointing.
    Then proclaiming and asking "You don't want a Felon, as President, do you?"
    It Failed - It Epic Fashion.

    Why do you think that there two assassination attempts on Trump's Life?
    It was the idiots within liberal media who spewed hateful rhetoric that Trump was Dangerous, he is Hitler and he would start world war III.
    The man has already been President for 4 years, but that does mater to the arrogant and the smug within the media.

    Hate to break it to you, Mike. There are many sickos who listen to that stuff from liberal media including the soft spoken words from NPR..
    Without any hesitation, it instantly becomes the listeners narrative too.
    It is nothing more then twisted rhetoric, brought on by the hated and a thirst to be first.

    I watched w/ disgust Biden and his cackling sidekick make all the wrong moves for our country and my head actually hurt trying to decipher her word salad.

    Just because it is "approved spending" doesn't mean it is not wastef
    The Republicans have also approved many things that are a waste, too
    am sure. Hint - DOGE is also suggesting cuts to Defense spending, w
    is typically not something Democrats race to spend money on.
    I don't believe the CBS story, they will say anything to discredit, besmirch even attempt to embarrass the President. I'll tell you, what I see.
    Which is I would wager a helluva lot more accurate.
    (CBS) after all Lesley Stahl can't allow any winning by Trump, neither can Martha Raddatz. of ABC who is married to NPR executive. No Malarkey.

    These networks: ALL are hoping that their broadcast(s) is in front of people who are sitting on the edge of their seat, listening and hanging on every word. All of a sudden a feeling of delight comes over the listeners faces, saying out loud in front of no one, "See I told you so!" The mood is of course one of vindication and delight for what was only a five weeks ago was a dam near certifiable emotional breakdown w/ the person shaking uncontrollably and looking like they would be self-distruct and all the while making a video for social media suggesting in a fit of fiery-rage saying if *YOU* voted for this man I hope the worst happens to you.

    Hmm.. How accurate do you think I am thus far?

    This is why I do not believe CBS. Even if any of this is true, it's short lived they will begin phase 2 soon w/ a severe case of disorder and heading even deeper and darker into the delves of madness.
    Psychotic by definition at Merriam-Webster.

    Meanwhile Trump will continue winning and more information will be coming
    down the pike with what the latest discoveries that DOGE has found.

    What this is really about... (and has always been about)
    The Liberal media is trying desperately find a crack that they can exploit. But why? Nonetheless, that is what is happening they take great pride trying to find fault, instead of being honest and wanting the President to be a success. That is why Trump calls them the Dis-honest media.
    I am sure that they have seen the election map results, but they don't care about any this because they are too arrogant and they are busy spinning their own narrative, again hoping it becomes yours.
    and that's the way it is Friday, February 21, 2025
    (I miss those days when this was said.)
    Legendary newsman Walter Cronkite was a "left-wing radical, but you would never know that" from watching him on TV, Ben Carson said on May 16, 2016

    Again, the defense spending that is on the block is not likely a Democrat initiative, and has nothing to do with "victims."
    Nonetheless Democrats are about victim hood. all you gotta do is look at D.E.I initiatives as well as subsidized benefits that are given out to the poor. Not to mention the illegals - Victims All - Every single one of them.

    I don't think you need to worry anything having to do the Defense Department.

    True. Explain how renaming the Gulf of Mexico, pestering Canada about becoming a state, examining what it would take to take over Gaza, or pesting Denmark about Greenland will fix *ANY* of the issues you mentioned?
    Renaming the gulf - The Gulf of America, is about American pride.
    it's too bad if this keeps folks up at night.
    As for Gaza and Greenland - we will do that too.

    Canada eh? Oh Canada!
    Are you aware of the Canada's trade deficit with the U.S.
    Speaking on his Truth Social platform earlier in February, Mr Trump said:
    "We pay hundreds of Billions of Dollars to SUBSIDIZE Canada.
    Why? There is no reason."

    And yet he has wasted those 30 days having the Gulf of Mexico renamed,
    and having a bunch of kids running around "accidentally" firing people. How has he had time for that, and golfing, instead of getting to the economy?
    Trump is multi-taskier - he is not Biden, who had a nap in the afternoon.
    But look, Biden took a whopping 577 days of vacation, in his 4 years of his sleepy Presidency and he was probably in bed and fast asleep by 9 PM.
    Trump works late well into the early hours of the morning and is up early.

    So if Trump wants to play a few rounds of Golf? I think the hardest working President in recent Presidential history should be entitled, specially how he is still getting the business done for American people.
    It's been 30 days
    "so keep your shirt on." - Charles Trip Tucker III / Star Trek Enterprise

    Aside from stopping some of the USAID programs, and shipping out some undocumented aliens, a lot of it is really stupid stuff that didn't need doing.

    You do realize that findings w/ USAID is less then 1 % there is far corruption fraud, waste and abuse that will be analyzed and eliminated.

    As I said, most voters were not looking for that. They want their cost
    of living to go down.
    What makes you think we cannot have our cake and eat it too.
    meaning there is no limitations upon us.
    Trump ran on many promises - so far a President of accomplishments, and like I said earlier it has only been a little more then 30 days.
    I will watch with satisfaction as The Man:
    out works, out performs, out maneuvers all the naysayers. - Again.

    ... We all make choices, but in the end, our choices make us.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Gregory Deyss on Sat Feb 22 08:33:04 2025
    Trump overcame a lot of things that didn't need to happen.
    Case in New York - pointless.
    What is THAT other piece from Alvin "Cheeseburger" Brag that creates the felony? hmmm? We are S-T-I-L-L waiting aren't we? Huh..

    Make no mistake, NY did this for one reason and one reason only, so that they could coin the the phrase "Felon" providing optics and finger pointing. Then proclaiming and asking "You don't want a Felon, as President, do you?" It Failed - It Epic Fashion.

    You are totally right about that. And there's even more layers to it: In doing this, the left has now weakened the definition of "convicted felon."
    Soon they'll be saying that "if they can serve as president, they should also be able to vote." Or even worse: they'll say that it's too discriminatory for employers to conduct pre-employment criminal history checks.

    You know that crap is heading our way. It's just a matter of time (unless we find a way to get those monkeys back in their cages.)

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/1 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Feb 24 09:00:22 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-

    You are totally right about that. And there's even more layers to it:
    In doing this, the left has now weakened the definition of "convicted felon." Soon they'll be saying that "if they can serve as president,
    they should also be able to vote." Or even worse: they'll say that it's too discriminatory for employers to conduct pre-employment criminal history checks.

    I think it's more likely that they're saying "A FELON SHOULDN'T BE ABLE
    TO RUN FOR OFFICE OR SERVE AS PRESIDENT"




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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Kurt Weiske on Mon Feb 24 11:11:46 2025
    felon." Soon they'll be saying that "if they can serve as president, they should also be able to vote." Or even worse: they'll say that it too discriminatory for employers to conduct pre-employment criminal history checks.

    I think it's more likely that they're saying "A FELON SHOULDN'T BE ABLE
    TO RUN FOR OFFICE OR SERVE AS PRESIDENT"

    That's fine with me, but it's not going to go over well with your racial equity buddies.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tue Feb 25 09:43:00 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-

    You are totally right about that. And there's even more layers to it:
    In doing this, the left has now weakened the definition of "convicted felon." Soon they'll be saying that "if they can serve as president,
    they should also be able to vote." Or even worse: they'll say that it's
    too discriminatory for employers to conduct pre-employment criminal
    history checks.

    The "left" weakened the definition? Are you calling MAGAs "the left"?
    They are the ones who kept changing that definition so that it wouldn't
    define Donald Trump. It was so important to make sure the definition
    didn't include him that many MAGAs quit refering to Hunter Biden, a previous target of their scorn, as a "convicted felon" and started *defending*
    Hunter's actions.

    What a flip-flop!


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to KURT WEISKE on Tue Feb 25 09:44:00 2025
    You are totally right about that. And there's even more layers to it:
    In doing this, the left has now weakened the definition of "convicted felon." Soon they'll be saying that "if they can serve as president, they should also be able to vote." Or even worse: they'll say that it's too discriminatory for employers to conduct pre-employment criminal history checks.

    I think it's more likely that they're saying "A FELON SHOULDN'T BE ABLE
    TO RUN FOR OFFICE OR SERVE AS PRESIDENT"

    If we need a Constitutional amendment for anything, it is probably this.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Tue Feb 25 15:03:30 2025
    The "left" weakened the definition? Are you calling MAGAs "the left"? They are the ones who kept changing that definition so that it wouldn't define Donald Trump. It was so important to make sure the definition didn't include him that many MAGAs quit refering to Hunter Biden, a previous target of their scorn, as a "convicted felon" and started *defending* Hunter's actions.

    The left turned violation of bank policy into a felony, so that's one way that they redefined what a "convicted felon" is.

    And although they were fussing about it at the time, they've turned "convicted felon" into something that's not even worth the fuss.

    "So you're a convicted felon? Did you violate a bank policy or something?"

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/1 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Feb 26 06:06:42 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    I think it's more likely that they're saying "A FELON SHOULDN'T BE ABLE
    TO RUN FOR OFFICE OR SERVE AS PRESIDENT"

    That's fine with me, but it's not going to go over well with your
    racial equity buddies.

    I'll check at our next racial equity coffee klatsch.




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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/1 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Feb 26 06:06:42 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    The left turned violation of bank policy into a felony, so that's one
    way that they redefined what a "convicted felon" is.

    It's called "falsifying business documents", or is it only Fraud when
    someone besides Trump does it?

    didn't include him that many MAGAs quit refering to Hunter Biden, a previous target of their scorn, as a "convicted felon" and started *defending* Hunter's actions.

    That's why I DID NOT VOTE for Hunter Biden!




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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Feb 26 07:52:16 2025
    That's fine with me, but it's not going to go over well with your racial equity buddies.

    I'll check at our next racial equity coffee klatsch.

    You really are funny! hehe

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wed Feb 26 09:22:00 2025
    The "left" weakened the definition? Are you calling MAGAs "the left"? They are the ones who kept changing that definition so that it wouldn't define Donald Trump. It was so important to make sure the definition didn't include him that many MAGAs quit refering to Hunter Biden, a previous target of their scorn, as a "convicted felon" and started *defending* Hunter's actions.

    The left turned violation of bank policy into a felony, so that's one way that
    they redefined what a "convicted felon" is.

    And although they were fussing about it at the time, they've turned "convicted
    felon" into something that's not even worth the fuss.

    "So you're a convicted felon? Did you violate a bank policy or something?"

    There is a difference between the policies of an individual bank, and banking/finance laws. If the latter didn't exist, there are several rich
    folks (including some lefties!) who would have robbed us all blind by now.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Feb 26 08:01:14 2025
    The left turned violation of bank policy into a felony, so that's one way that they redefined what a "convicted felon" is.

    It's called "falsifying business documents", or is it only Fraud when
    someone besides Trump does it?

    Property appraisals can vary. I bought my house for $50k 9 years ago and now Zillow says it's worth $120k.

    If I apply for a loan and use my house as collateral, the bank might approve me for a $70k loan. And long after I pay off the loan, with interest, some Democrat who looks like a horse might pull out a calculator and say "His house is only worth $50k! Put him in jail!"

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to KURT WEISKE on Thu Feb 27 09:56:00 2025
    The left turned violation of bank policy into a felony, so that's one way that they redefined what a "convicted felon" is.

    It's called "falsifying business documents", or is it only Fraud when
    someone besides Trump does it?

    didn't include him that many MAGAs quit refering to Hunter Biden, a previous target of their scorn, as a "convicted felon" and started *defending* Hunter's actions.

    That's why I DID NOT VOTE for Hunter Biden!

    That was actually part of my quote, where I was pointing out how MAGAs
    thought it was so important to change the definition of "convicted felon"
    that they enen quit calling Hunter one. We KNOW that was a big change for them.


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/1 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Feb 27 08:07:52 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    If I apply for a loan and use my house as collateral, the bank might approve me for a $70k loan. And long after I pay off the loan, with interest, some Democrat who looks like a horse might pull out a
    calculator and say "His house is only worth $50k! Put him in jail!"

    When you inflate the value of several properties over a 4 year period by
    as much as $500 million dollars to lenders than you do in the same tax
    year, it looks a bit sus.

    When your attorney testifies that you do so to inflate assets when it
    serves your purposes, as when trying to make Forbes' wealthiest list,
    and deflate them with the specific purpose to reduce taxes.

    And, the jury wasn't all democrats.



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Kurt Weiske on Thu Feb 27 14:30:08 2025
    When you inflate the value of several properties over a 4 year period by as much as $500 million dollars to lenders than you do in the same tax year, it looks a bit sus.

    When your attorney testifies that you do so to inflate assets when it serves your purposes, as when trying to make Forbes' wealthiest list,
    and deflate them with the specific purpose to reduce taxes.

    The attorney general needs to get a life. There's nobody else being charged with "appraisal fraud." She does nothing to help crime victims. Nothing.

    All she's done throughout her "career" is combat her political adversaries. She was behind the prosecution of Andrew Cuomo, and she even ran for governor in the Democratic primary. She sued Trump over his border orders. She sued the NRA.

    Does that sound a little political to you?

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