• Facebook still sucks

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to All on Sun Jan 19 15:22:24 2025
    My wife is an active Facebook user and she was watching the live coverage of Trump's final rally on her phone, and she tried to "Like" the coverage, and she got a pop-up message that said this:

    "You can't use this feature right now

    We limit how often you can post, comment or do other things in a given amount of time in order to help protect the community from spam. You can try again later. Learn more."

    Mark Zuckerberg is a lying piece of trash. So we can talk about vaccines and viruses, but we still can't "Like" a livestream?

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jan 19 23:13:22 2025
    Hello Aaron!

    19 Mar 70 20:19, you wrote to all:

    My wife is an active Facebook user and she was watching the live
    coverage of Trump's final rally on her phone, and she tried to "Like"
    the coverage, and she got a pop-up message that said this:

    "You can't use this feature right now

    We limit how often you can post, comment or do other things in a given amount of time in order to help protect the community from spam. You
    can try again later. Learn more."

    Mark Zuckerberg is a lying piece of trash. So we can talk about
    vaccines and viruses, but we still can't "Like" a livestream?


    Tell me you don't understand how social media works without saying "I don't understand how social media works"



    Mike


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Mike Miller on Sun Jan 19 23:02:12 2025
    Mark Zuckerberg is a lying piece of trash. So we can talk about vaccines and viruses, but we still can't "Like" a livestream?


    Tell me you don't understand how social media works without saying "I don't understand how social media works"

    Well, she was able to "like" it after it was over. But still, Facebook's founder, their fact-checkers, and their content moderators are up to no good for the most part.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jan 20 07:26:24 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    Mark Zuckerberg is a lying piece of trash. So we can talk about
    vaccines and viruses, but we still can't "Like" a livestream?

    No surprise.

    I've likened Zuck to Saurman. He allied with the bad guys against the good guys. Then he double-crossed the bad guys. So now he's in a position where the bad guys want to get him, but the good guys don't trust him.

    Zuck should have read more Lord of the Rings. He may have learned something.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Mon Jan 20 09:04:00 2025
    Mark Zuckerberg is a lying piece of trash. So we can talk about vaccines and viruses, but we still can't "Like" a livestream?

    Had she already liked it? Some of those streams will let you like it
    multiple times but may eventually cut you off.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Ron L. on Mon Jan 20 08:56:06 2025
    Mark Zuckerberg is a lying piece of trash. So we can talk about vaccines and viruses, but we still can't "Like" a livestream?

    No surprise.

    I've likened Zuck to Saurman. He allied with the bad guys against the good guys. Then he double-crossed the bad guys. So now he's in a position where the bad guys want to get him, but the good guys don't
    trust him.

    Did he really double cross the bad guys though? I get the impression that he's sucking up to Trump to act as an insider for the rest of the world elite.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Mike Powell on Mon Jan 20 09:06:12 2025
    Mark Zuckerberg is a lying piece of trash. So we can talk about vaccines viruses, but we still can't "Like" a livestream?

    Had she already liked it? Some of those streams will let you like it multiple times but may eventually cut you off.

    It let her Like it when the stream was over, but she's a serious Facebooker, and she said that was the first time that ever happened.

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jan 20 10:59:14 2025

    Hello Aaron!

    20 Mar 70 05:03, you wrote to me:

    Mark Zuckerberg is a lying piece of trash. So we can talk
    about
    vaccines and viruses, but we still can't "Like" a
    livestream?


    Tell me you don't understand how social media works without
    saying "I don't understand how social media works"

    Well, she was able to "like" it after it was over. But still,
    Facebook's founder, their fact-checkers, and their content moderators
    are up to no good for the most part.


    So, everything is designed specifically to target & punish you, and it's by no means a glitch or an unintended side effect of something else??

    Yeah, that tracks. conservatives, always playing the "woe is me" victim card. Everything is all about them.


    Mike


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Jan 21 07:25:52 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Did he really double cross the bad guys though? I get the impression
    that he's sucking up to Trump to act as an insider for the rest of the world elite.

    He's publically admitting that the Biden Regime strongarmed him into censoring things. That a double cross to me.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MIKE MILLER on Tue Jan 21 08:56:00 2025
    Yeah, that tracks. *political* extremists, always playing the "woe is me" victim card. Everything is all about them.

    Fixed that for you. I have known too many from the opposite side who act
    in the same manner to believe that only conservatives do so.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Mike Miller on Tue Jan 21 10:21:06 2025
    Well, she was able to "like" it after it was over. But still, Facebook's founder, their fact-checkers, and their content moderators are up to no good for the most part.

    So, everything is designed specifically to target & punish you, and
    it's by no means a glitch or an unintended side effect of something
    else??

    When it comes to globalist corporations, it's wise to always assume the worst, but to hope for the best.

    Yeah, that tracks. conservatives, always playing the "woe is me"
    victim card. Everything is all about them.

    And leftists care about others first?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Ron L. on Tue Jan 21 10:29:52 2025
    Did he really double cross the bad guys though? I get the impression that he's sucking up to Trump to act as an insider for the rest of th world elite.

    He's publically admitting that the Biden Regime strongarmed him into censoring things. That a double cross to me.

    I see your point, but Facebook's ridiculous censorship began long before Biden took office.

    Had Zuckerberg said "The world elite pressured me.." then that would be different. When he said "The Biden administration made me do it" that doesn't add up.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jan 22 07:28:40 2025
    Ron L. wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    But most of these social media companies were Left-leaning for a long
    time as well. So there was "censorship" by the moderators.

    And I forgot to add that the censorship was about the wierd Left crap, not the scamdemic and the "science" that was pushed on us.

    The real censorship came from the Biden Regime.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Ron L. on Wed Jan 22 05:32:14 2025
    I see your point, but Facebook's ridiculous censorship began long bef Biden took office.

    Had Zuckerberg said "The world elite pressured me.." then that would different. When he said "The Biden administration made me do it" that doesn't add up.


    But most of these social media companies were Left-leaning for a long
    time as well. So there was "censorship" by the moderators.

    Yes, so no matter who he tries to blame it on, he's full of it.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jan 22 07:14:12 2025
    I see your point, but Facebook's ridiculous censorship began long before Biden took office.

    Had Zuckerberg said "The world elite pressured me.." then that would be different. When he said "The Biden administration made me do it" that doesn't add up.


    But most of these social media companies were Left-leaning for a long time as well. So there was "censorship" by the moderators.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Ron L. on Wed Jan 22 05:56:58 2025
    But most of these social media companies were Left-leaning for a long time as well. So there was "censorship" by the moderators.

    And I forgot to add that the censorship was about the wierd Left crap,
    not the scamdemic and the "science" that was pushed on us.

    Doesn't it all stem from the same source? Biden's owner was a proponent of all the above.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Ron L. on Thu Jan 23 17:06:58 2025
    Doesn't it all stem from the same source? Biden's owner was a propone of all the above.

    Sort of. The Elitists did a good job of programming their minions to do things without any direct communications.

    What I'm trying to do is distinquish between 2 kinds of censorship on Facebook.

    1. The moderator of a group, who has pink hair and pronouns, decides
    that he doesn't like a topic and squashes any message that he doesn't like. 2. The Fed (effectively) ordering Facebook to squash all

    It wouldn't surprise me if some pink-haired-mosquito-penis complained about Trump, and then Zuck used that as justification to ban him. Trump offends people who fit into that category, and Zuck is the type of elitist who will bend over frontwards for them.

    Type 2 is censorship by definition and highly illegal for the gov't to
    do.

    It's illegal for the government to do it on their own, but it's probably legal for them to collude with other elitists to get it donw.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jan 24 08:43:56 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    It wouldn't surprise me if some pink-haired-mosquito-penis complained about Trump, and then Zuck used that as justification to ban him. Trump offends people who fit into that category, and Zuck is the type of
    elitist who will bend over frontwards for them.

    Zuck simply has no backbone.

    For many companies, the DEI started in the HR dept and slowly grew. The big-wigs in the top floors don't usually interfere with the lower operations of the company - that's what they pay others to do. And great pains are done to keep the upper management from knowing what's going on - unless they get a Woke CEO.

    It's only when those lower operations negatively impact the company that the non-woke upper management start looking at things below them.

    It's illegal for the government to do it on their own, but it's
    probably legal for them to collude with other elitists to get it donw.

    No. If someone in the gov't told Facebook to censor, Facebook is somewhat "off the hook" but that someone in the gov't is in big trouble.

    Probably the most Facebook would get hit for is failing to resist and make that coersion public.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Ron L. on Fri Jan 24 08:34:14 2025
    For many companies, the DEI started in the HR dept and slowly grew. The big-wigs in the top floors don't usually interfere with the lower operations of the company - that's what they pay others to do. And
    great pains are done to keep the upper management from knowing what's going on - unless they get a Woke CEO.

    That makes sense. The CEOs and/or owners want what's best for the company, but lower management can care less. Once in a while it's smart for the CEO to crack some skulls.

    It's illegal for the government to do it on their own, but it's probably legal for them to collude with other elitists to get it donw

    No. If someone in the gov't told Facebook to censor, Facebook is
    somewhat "off the hook" but that someone in the gov't is in big trouble.

    Congress should hold them accountable, but you know how that goes.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jan 25 13:45:30 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    That makes sense. The CEOs and/or owners want what's best for the
    company, but lower management can care less. Once in a while it's smart for the CEO to crack some skulls.

    Lower management want what's best for them. They don't care about the company because they don't have "skin in the game".

    This was a concept that the Ignorant Elitists can't seem to wrap their tiny brains around. They keep screaming "Why does the owner of the company get such a big salary while the janitor gets such a small one?"

    The owner of the company has the most skin in the game. If the company goes under, he's the one who still has to pay off the loans, etc. The Janitor simply goes off and gets another job.

    This is also why many companies give higher ups stock, and encourage employee stock ownership: The more employees who have an incentive to make the company more successful (because it will make their stock worth more), the better.

    Congress should hold them accountable, but you know how that goes.

    Yes. I highly doubt that we will see anyone (of importance) be held accountable. But, who knows? Russia may extradite Fauci for crimes against humanity.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Ron L. on Sat Jan 25 20:35:46 2025
    This was a concept that the Ignorant Elitists can't seem to wrap their tiny brains around. They keep screaming "Why does the owner of the company get such a big salary while the janitor gets such a small one?"

    This explains why some companies are now (supposedly) ditching DEI; they don't need ignorant elitists (i.e. members of state assembly, etc) telling them "you have to start hiring people who suck and you have to start making your customers hate your company." But unfortunately for NY businesses, they are legally obligated to DEI.

    The owner of the company has the most skin in the game. If the company goes under, he's the one who still has to pay off the loans, etc. The Janitor simply goes off and gets another job.

    This is also why many companies give higher ups stock, and encourage employee stock ownership: The more employees who have an incentive to make the company more successful (because it will make their stock worth more), the better.

    That's smart. I never knew that. But this explains why perfectly. Of course, it will only work out this way if you have intelligent employees. (They should explain that to them when they hire them - I never saw it this way but it's true.)

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jan 26 10:22:10 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    This explains why some companies are now (supposedly) ditching DEI;
    they don't need ignorant elitists (i.e. members of state assembly, etc) telling them "you have to start hiring people who suck and you have to start making your customers hate your company." But unfortunately for
    NY businesses, they are legally obligated to DEI.

    That may be successfully challenged in court now that Trump has eliminated preferential treatment for minorities... er... Affirmative Action at the Federal level.

    This is also why many companies give higher ups stock, and encourage employee stock ownership: The more employees who have an incentive to make the company more successful (because it will make their stock worth more), the better.

    That's smart. I never knew that. But this explains why perfectly. Of course, it will only work out this way if you have intelligent
    employees. (They should explain that to them when they hire them - I
    never saw it this way but it's true.)

    A company that does not employ mostly intelligent employees doesn't stay in business in capitalistic systems. And despite the Elitists best attempts, we still (mostly) have a capitalistic system.

    So if you have mostly employees who are intelligent, and own stock, the problems caused by the DIE employees will be limited.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Ron L. on Sun Jan 26 10:11:22 2025
    A company that does not employ mostly intelligent employees doesn't stay in business in capitalistic systems. And despite the Elitists best attempts, we still (mostly) have a capitalistic system.

    So if you have mostly employees who are intelligent, and own stock, the problems caused by the DIE employees will be limited.

    That may be true, but DEI in the workplace causes other consequences that can drag the company down. So if they overcome the obstacle of having unqualified workers, then they get to contend with things like being forced to donate a
    percentage of their profits to colleges that participate in racial segregation, being forced to use suppliers owned by minorities, and paying for
    a DEI officer to crack a whip.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jan 27 07:07:50 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    That may be true, but DEI in the workplace causes other consequences
    that can drag the company down. So if they overcome the obstacle of
    having unqualified workers, then they get to contend with things like being forced to donate a percentage of their profits to colleges that participate in racial segregation, being forced to use suppliers owned
    by minorities, and paying for a DEI officer to crack a whip.

    Intelligent employees and stock ownership is only a way to block the rot. But once the company has reached the levels you describe, it's too late. It's time for the intelligent employees to leave, sell their stock in the sinking company and get a better job before they have no job.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Ron L. on Mon Jan 27 06:27:24 2025
    That may be true, but DEI in the workplace causes other consequences that can drag the company down. So if they overcome the obstacle of having unqualified workers, then they get to contend with things like being forced to donate a percentage of their profits to colleges that participate in racial segregation, being forced to use suppliers owne by minorities, and paying for a DEI officer to crack a whip.

    Intelligent employees and stock ownership is only a way to block the
    rot. But once the company has reached the levels you describe, it's too late. It's time for the intelligent employees to leave, sell their
    stock in the sinking company and get a better job before they have no
    job.

    It sounds like a Democrat problem, but in reality, it's a NY GOP problem. They did this to us. And that's part of why I changed my party affiliation a
    few days ago. I'm a registered Democrat now.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Jan 28 07:09:06 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    It sounds like a Democrat problem, but in reality, it's a NY GOP
    problem. They did this to us. And that's part of why I changed my party affiliation a few days ago. I'm a registered Democrat now.

    Shall I send you a "get well" card for your lobotomy. :)



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Ron L. on Tue Jan 28 08:27:24 2025
    It sounds like a Democrat problem, but in reality, it's a NY GOP problem. They did this to us. And that's part of why I changed my par affiliation a few days ago. I'm a registered Democrat now.

    Shall I send you a "get well" card for your lobotomy. :)

    Ha! No, send one to the sheeple who think that "The NY GOP is doing everything they can to find candidates."

    (I hope they get well soon!)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tue Jan 28 12:27:00 2025
    It sounds like a Democrat problem, but in reality, it's a NY GOP
    problem. They did this to us. And that's part of why I changed my party affiliation a few days ago. I'm a registered Democrat now.

    Although no longer true, back when I registered (R), the thought process
    was you should really register D because the D's ran everything in this
    state and you'd actually have a voice that way... at least in the primaries.

    If you didn't like who won the primary, you could vote R in the Fall which,
    in some areas, was like voting third-party.

    Amazing how things have changed over the past 35 years.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Mike Powell on Tue Jan 28 14:06:12 2025
    It sounds like a Democrat problem, but in reality, it's a NY GOP problem. They did this to us. And that's part of why I changed my par affiliation a few days ago. I'm a registered Democrat now.

    Although no longer true, back when I registered (R), the thought process was you should really register D because the D's ran everything in this state and you'd actually have a voice that way... at least in the primaries.

    Is KY one of the states where registered Democrat voters can vote in Republican primaries?

    My state is not one of them. And I don't plan on voting in any Democrat primaries either, but this is how I protest against the NY GOP for them being so corrupt.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jan 29 07:03:40 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Shall I send you a "get well" card for your lobotomy. :)

    Ha! No, send one to the sheeple who think that "The NY GOP is doing everything they can to find candidates."

    I'd call the zoo. There are too many RINOs on the loose in NY.

    (I hope they get well soon!)

    That will only happen if they get caught by the men in white. And they are too busy rounding up the sex offenders.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wed Jan 29 09:53:00 2025
    Although no longer true, back when I registered (R), the thought process was you should really register D because the D's ran everything in this state and you'd actually have a voice that way... at least in the primaries.

    Is KY one of the states where registered Democrat voters can vote in Republica
    primaries?

    NO, thank goodness! There was a push several years ago to allow Independents to vote in one primary or the other but that also seems to have died over
    the years, thankfully.

    My state is not one of them. And I don't plan on voting in any Democrat primaries either, but this is how I protest against the NY GOP for them being so corrupt.

    If I were changing my registration, I would be doing so in order to vote in
    the primaries. The GOP is not going to really notice your protest, but
    voting in a D primary might allow you to support a more moderate-leaning candidate and would be more likely to elicit change.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Mike Powell on Wed Jan 29 08:35:40 2025
    My state is not one of them. And I don't plan on voting in any Democrat primaries either, but this is how I protest against the NY GOP for them so corrupt.

    If I were changing my registration, I would be doing so in order to vote in the primaries. The GOP is not going to really notice your protest,
    but voting in a D primary might allow you to support a more moderate-leaning candidate and would be more likely to elicit change.

    A less harmful Democrat (for an election in my state) sounds great.

    We'll see. It depends on what kind of crap the DNC has to offer. But as you know, they are like robots, and they're programmed to do what they're told, and they all have the same agenda.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jan 30 08:04:14 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    We'll see. It depends on what kind of crap the DNC has to offer. But as you know, they are like robots, and they're programmed to do what
    they're told, and they all have the same agenda.

    But remember that any Democrat with brains became a Republican a while ago.

    So the Democrat party only has a bunch of useless bots to put forward as candidates.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Thu Jan 30 17:07:20 2025
    We'll see. It depends on what kind of crap the DNC has to offer. But you know, they are like robots, and they're programmed to do what they're told, and they all have the same agenda.

    But remember that any Democrat with brains became a Republican a while ago.

    So the Democrat party only has a bunch of useless bots to put forward as candidates.

    Yea, they are all on the same payroll. The only way to fix a state like mine is to bulldoze it. Or maybe some tough love from a kick ass president like Trump could set these reptilians straight.

    How did it feel when you found out that Trump won your state? I bet you were proud! It's a clear F U to Gretchie from the voters!

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jan 31 07:19:56 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Yea, they are all on the same payroll. The only way to fix a state like mine is to bulldoze it. Or maybe some tough love from a kick ass
    president like Trump could set these reptilians straight.

    "Tough love" is certainly the correct term. It's going to be politically incorrect to tell union workers that they have to actually work if they want to get paid. And all those welfare paracites to get off their rear ends and work.
    And all the local politicans who will have to stop the graft.

    How did it feel when you found out that Trump won your state? I bet you were proud! It's a clear F U to Gretchie from the voters!

    It was a hollow victory. Trump won, but an Elitist was elected as senator.

    It does show that we don't actually elect anyone in our state. It's all decided by someone else and the votes are created to support that. Just like California.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Fri Jan 31 07:25:46 2025
    Yea, they are all on the same payroll. The only way to fix a state li mine is to bulldoze it. Or maybe some tough love from a kick ass president like Trump could set these reptilians straight.

    "Tough love" is certainly the correct term. It's going to be politically incorrect to tell union workers that they have to actually work if they want to get paid. And all those welfare paracites to get off their rear ends and work. And all the local politicans who will have to stop the graft.

    Those are good ideas, but we need more extreme measures. Something like no more funding whatsoever, for anything. They can't live with their heat lamps turned off.

    How did it feel when you found out that Trump won your state? I bet y were proud! It's a clear F U to Gretchie from the voters!

    It was a hollow victory. Trump won, but an Elitist was elected as senator.

    4 years of one guy doing good things, and 6 years of some other guy doing bad things :(

    It does show that we don't actually elect anyone in our state. It's all decided by someone else and the votes are created to support that. Just like California.

    The people who actually realize the harm that Biden did, and voted for Trump, would they actually still vote for Democrats in other races?

    Maybe there's a significant population of people who are only 1/2 woken up, and they think that Biden was just one bad apple.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Feb 2 16:00:50 2025
    Those are good ideas, but we need more extreme measures. Something li no more funding whatsoever, for anything. They can't live with their heat lamps turned off.

    They should do something similar to the stock options. A basic salary while in office, then a bonus based on GDP? increase at the end of each term.

    That sounds fair.

    Trump signed an executive order that calls for no more funding for schools that teach CRT, and I appreciate that, but some of the schools are doing things even worse than teaching CRT, and they ought to be punished.

    But I think a big change would be overall term limits. i.e. No more
    than 10 years total in any office combined.

    That sounds good to me. If they can't accomplish their goals in 10 years time, then they simply can't accomplish anything anyway. But 10 years is too long for house members. They should be cut down to 4 years (2 terms max.)

    The people who actually realize the harm that Biden did, and voted fo Trump, would they actually still vote for Democrats in other races?

    That's the question. I'm thinking "no". So why did Michigan elect
    Trump, but also elect a useless Democrat as senator?

    Trump is their key to not having to share their foodstamp allotment with illegal immigrants. The senator would have been their key to stopping Trump from doing much of anything else.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Feb 3 07:21:54 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Trump signed an executive order that calls for no more funding for
    schools that teach CRT, and I appreciate that, but some of the schools
    are doing things even worse than teaching CRT, and they ought to be punished.

    But they'll do what they did when parents found out: Call it something else, teach the same thing, but tell the kids not to tell their parents - or the gov't in this case..

    That sounds good to me. If they can't accomplish their goals in 10
    years time, then they simply can't accomplish anything anyway. But 10 years is too long for house members. They should be cut down to 4 years
    (2 terms max.)

    Serving as a congress critter was intended to be more of a "public service" job that people do for a short period of time to "give back" to the country. It was not intended to be a career and certainly not assisted living.

    Trump is their key to not having to share their foodstamp allotment
    with illegal immigrants. The senator would have been their key to
    stopping Trump from doing much of anything else.

    Which goes back to my point: We, the voters, don't decide (at least in Michigan and California). Someone else decides and the correct number of votes are manufactured.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Mon Feb 3 10:25:48 2025
    Trump signed an executive order that calls for no more funding for schools that teach CRT, and I appreciate that, but some of the school are doing things even worse than teaching CRT, and they ought to be punished.

    But they'll do what they did when parents found out: Call it something else, teach the same thing, but tell the kids not to tell their parents
    - or the gov't in this case..

    There are parents who pay attention to their kids, and there are parents who don't. My kids know that all their teachers are Democrats. But I've taught them "Just because your teachers are brainwashed by the reptilians, it doesn't mean that they are wrong about algebra or vocabulary."

    My kids caught on to Martin Luther King, his dream, and equality, long before all this ridiculous "equity" and "infinite genders" crap came along. They know that only dumb kids get brainwashed.

    Serving as a congress critter was intended to be more of a "public service" job that people do for a short period of time to "give back" to the country. It was not intended to be a career and certainly not assisted living.

    That makes sense, but now days it also makes sense to keep a majority. That probably wasn't important in the old days, but the Democrats have a strong alliance with incredibly loyal puppets. We need to have the equivalent or they will crush us.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Feb 4 07:07:30 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    There are parents who pay attention to their kids, and there are
    parents who don't. My kids know that all their teachers are Democrats.
    But I've taught them "Just because your teachers are brainwashed by the reptilians, it doesn't mean that they are wrong about algebra or vocabulary."

    I thought the same thing until I learned about "New Math". At this point, if the teacher has pronouns, colored hair, etc. then that teacher is completely incompetent to teach the subject - unless the subject is learning how to handle a delusional person.

    My kids caught on to Martin Luther King, his dream, and equality, long before all this ridiculous "equity" and "infinite genders" crap came along. They know that only dumb kids get brainwashed.

    Good.

    That makes sense, but now days it also makes sense to keep a majority.

    Why? We didn't need to keep a majority for a long time. Career politicians have always been a problem.

    My guess is that any reason to keep a majority is related to the gov't being too big (i.e. we don't need that dept) and/or the gov't sticking its nose into an area where it shouldn't be.

    That probably wasn't important in the old days, but the Democrats have
    a strong alliance with incredibly loyal puppets. We need to have the equivalent or they will crush us.

    Oh, yes. This won't change overnight, that's for sure. But we create disinsentives to being a puppet.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Tue Feb 4 09:05:54 2025
    But I've taught them "Just because your teachers are brainwashed by t reptilians, it doesn't mean that they are wrong about algebra or vocabulary."

    I thought the same thing until I learned about "New Math". At this
    point, if the teacher has pronouns, colored hair, etc. then that teacher is completely incompetent to teach the subject - unless the subject is learning how to handle a delusional person.

    Lefty logic never adds up. My kids have a smart survival instinct where they can adapt to their environment. They are quiet about their knowledge of leftism while at school, but then they come home and tell me everything.

    My high schooler said: "My social studies teacher said that Trump is a white supremacist but I know Trump better than she does."

    My elementary schooler said: "I don't eat the snacks that my teacher gives us because SHE'S A DEMOCRAT." (LOL I wouldn't eat that stuff either!)

    That makes sense, but now days it also makes sense to keep a majority

    Why? We didn't need to keep a majority for a long time. Career politicians have always been a problem.

    My guess is that any reason to keep a majority is related to the gov't being too big (i.e. we don't need that dept) and/or the gov't sticking
    its nose into an area where it shouldn't be.

    You're right that the govt is too big. It's like a very disorderly rat colony. And we can't count on them for much of anything, but less Democrats means less opposition to the chosen one's agenda.

    That probably wasn't important in the old days, but the Democrats hav a strong alliance with incredibly loyal puppets. We need to have the equivalent or they will crush us.

    Oh, yes. This won't change overnight, that's for sure. But we create disinsentives to being a puppet.

    I don't understand that. To me it seems like we need constitutional puppets. People who will let the constitution do the thinking for them.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Feb 5 07:55:40 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Lefty logic never adds up.

    It never does. The double standards and doublespeak shows that.

    My kids have a smart survival instinct where
    they can adapt to their environment. They are quiet about their
    knowledge of leftism while at school, but then they come home and tell
    me everything.

    Sadly, similar to old Communist Russia.

    My elementary schooler said: "I don't eat the snacks that my teacher
    gives us because SHE'S A DEMOCRAT." (LOL I wouldn't eat that stuff either!)

    It's probably laced with sex-change drugs, going by what I see on Libs of TikTok.

    You're right that the govt is too big. It's like a very disorderly rat colony. And we can't count on them for much of anything, but less Democrats means less opposition to the chosen one's agenda.

    It's not just the Democrats.

    I've said it before: The problem isn't Democrats, Leftists, etc. The problem is an Elite class that seeks to dominate the rest of us. And it does that by infiltrating a trusted institution and turning it into a mask for them.

    Today, it's the Democrat party that was destroyed by them. The churches aren't far behind. The colleges/universities are done for. The medical industry has taken a huge credibility hit. And the Republican party has its RINOs.

    We need to be guarded with any group, at any time. We need to recognize the signs of infiltration. We need to create rules that prohibit that.

    Eric S. Raymond was lamenting on X about this. He said that when he had the platform to speak, he should have instituted rules making free speech absolute.
    That would have hamstrung the Elitists when they came and infiltrated some Open Source projects.

    I don't understand that. To me it seems like we need constitutional puppets. People who will let the constitution do the thinking for them.

    We need people who will work with the Constitution and not try to subvert it.

    I don't want puppets who let others do their thinking. I want people who can think for themselves and ask "Is this Constitutional?" before they introduce a new rule/law.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Wed Feb 5 14:02:18 2025
    You're right that the govt is too big. It's like a very disorderly ra colony. And we can't count on them for much of anything, but less Democrats means less opposition to the chosen one's agenda.

    It's not just the Democrats.

    I've said it before: The problem isn't Democrats, Leftists, etc. The problem is an Elite class that seeks to dominate the rest of us. And it does that by infiltrating a trusted institution and turning it into a
    mask for them.

    I know, and I realize that the Republican party is infected. But the majority of Republicans are voting in our favor on things. And when they falter, so does their support (Notice how former Rep Marcus Molinaro is gone.)

    When Democrats have a majority in congress, they use it to hurt us. At least when Republicans have the majority they just sit there and do nothing (for the most part.)

    Today, it's the Democrat party that was destroyed by them. The churches aren't far behind. The colleges/universities are done for. The medical industry has taken a huge credibility hit. And the Republican party has its RINOs.

    The Roman Catholic Church comes to mind. The current pope is a globalist tyrant, and Catholic Charities is teaching illegal migrants how to evade law enforcement (they call it "helping immigrants.")

    We need to be guarded with any group, at any time. We need to recognize the signs of infiltration. We need to create rules that prohibit that.

    Legal rules? The only way to fight all this infiltration is to start building our own infrastructure (our own churches, information systems, schools, labor unions, radio stations, etc.) We need to build a coalition of like minded "experts" in all those fields. It's the only way. And the government ain't gonna help us, not even Trump.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Feb 6 07:58:44 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    When Democrats have a majority in congress, they use it to hurt us. At least when Republicans have the majority they just sit there and do nothing (for the most part.)

    But that's the "Republican Way". They believe that the gov't should stay out of people's lives, so they "do nothing". And that's the way it should be.

    We need to stop thinking that the opposite of "Democrat" is "Republican" because it's not.

    The Roman Catholic Church comes to mind. The current pope is a
    globalist tyrant, and Catholic Charities is teaching illegal migrants
    how to evade law enforcement (they call it "helping immigrants.")

    I recognized the Church has a bunch of elitists decades ago and stopped giving them any of my time (or money). Now it's just gotten blatent.

    Legal rules? The only way to fight all this infiltration is to start building our own infrastructure (our own churches, information systems, schools, labor unions, radio stations, etc.) We need to build a
    coalition of like minded "experts" in all those fields. It's the only
    way. And the government ain't gonna help us, not even Trump.

    But those institutions will get infiltrated over time too.

    When I looked up "eternal vigilance is the price of liberty", I found this:

    This concept is frequently expressed as "eternal vigilance is the price of liberty," though it is not originally attributed to Thomas Jefferson, as is commonly believed. The phrase can be traced back to an Irish statesman, John Philpot Curran, who in 1790 said, "The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt."


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Feb 7 07:27:48 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    They still serve 1 good purpose: they teach kids about Jesus.

    It depends. They usually teach a very warped sense of Jesus. But the upside is that many people actually live their lives according to what Jesus taught, so they can serve as good role models. But too many others are "do as I say, not as I do."

    I just
    need to get out of the Roman Catholic church and probably into the Orthodox Catholic church instead (they are not affiliated with Catholic Charities.)

    All churches are suspect. I recently went to a service at a very large church near by and, I swear, I thought I was at some sort of variety show. It was the biggest joke of a "service" that I ever saw.

    It's true. And being vigilant is what I do all day every day. But I'm a slave to the left due to their association with all these institutions.

    I think you missed my point: Yes, we need to build new institutions. But we also need to build in vigilance to prevent the Elitists from infiltrating them and wrecking them just like they did to the old institutions.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Fri Feb 7 08:24:28 2025
    All churches are suspect. I recently went to a service at a very large church near by and, I swear, I thought I was at some sort of variety
    show. It was the biggest joke of a "service" that I ever saw.

    I used to think that church is good because you can get a large quantity of people praying for common goals, but in reality church goers don't all have the same goals, and besides, it only takes one person's prayer to trigger a response from God.

    It's true. And being vigilant is what I do all day every day. But I'm slave to the left due to their association with all these institution

    I think you missed my point: Yes, we need to build new institutions.
    But we also need to build in vigilance to prevent the Elitists from infiltrating them and wrecking them just like they did to the old institutions.

    We need some federal legislation. We "scored" a federal court win when a judge ruled against Google in an antitrust case last year, but it's been 7 months since the ruling and Google is still the default search engine on phones, Chrome is still the default browser, and Android is still the default OS.

    The problem with that probably lies in the fact that Google has enough money to pay congress to stay quiet.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Feb 8 13:09:34 2025
    We "scored" a federal court win when
    a judge ruled against Google in an antitrust case last year, but it's been 7 months since the ruling and Google is still the default search engine on phones, Chrome is still the default browser, and Android is still the default OS.

    But most of those decisions are made by the phone company, who makes the Android build for the phone. So not much of a win. Google simply
    doesn't bundle Chrome into Android anymore, but then the phone companies put it back in their builds.

    I understand. It sounds like Google can pass the blame to the phone companies, but the phone companies can pass the blame to the manufacturers, and the manufacturers can can pass the blame on "the phones need an OS in order to
    function." My assumption is that there's no blaming anybody but ourselves until we start manufacturing our own phones.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Feb 9 09:16:16 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I understand. It sounds like Google can pass the blame to the phone companies, but the phone companies can pass the blame to the manufacturers, and the manufacturers can can pass the blame on "the
    phones need an OS in order to function."

    It's not so much of a blame game here. Companies are going to do what their customers ask. Until we start telling companies like Verizon that their products are unacceptable and stop buying them, they will keep installing spyware.

    I just had to delete AndroidSystemSafetyCore that Google dropped on my phone without my knowledge or consent. It's a client-side "scanner" (i.e. it's spying on what you are doing). I've already sent a note to Verizon that this is unacceptable and their Android build should not have allowed that to be installed "behind the scenes." But I've already decided that I won't be going back to them when I'm ready to get a new phone.

    My assumption is that there's
    no blaming anybody but ourselves until we start manufacturing our own phones.

    That's already been happening. There's GrapheneOS - which is Android compatible without the spying. The problem is getting a phone carrier to offer a phone with it.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Feb 9 10:04:06 2025
    companies, but the phone companies can pass the blame to the manufacturers, and the manufacturers can can pass the blame on "the phones need an OS in order to function."

    It's not so much of a blame game here. Companies are going to do what their customers ask. Until we start telling companies like Verizon that their products are unacceptable and stop buying them, they will keep installing spyware.

    I doubt that will ever happen. There might be a complaint here and there but the sheeple love Verizon and they trust them more than they'd trust you or me if we tried to tell them about the evil that's inside their beloved smartphones.

    I just had to delete AndroidSystemSafetyCore that Google dropped on my phone without my knowledge or consent. It's a client-side "scanner"
    (i.e. it's spying on what you are doing). I've already sent a note to Verizon that this is unacceptable and their Android build should not
    have allowed that to be installed "behind the scenes." But I've already decided that I won't be going back to them when I'm ready to get a new phone.

    It's hard to tell which programs or processes are necessary and which ones aren't. I try not to remove too much stuff because I've learned that later on the device will want that crap back.

    That's already been happening. There's GrapheneOS - which is Android compatible without the spying. The problem is getting a phone carrier
    to offer a phone with it.

    We need someone we trust to literally manufacture a phone, but show me a guy who knows how to do that who isn't an attendee at the WEF.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Feb 10 07:24:38 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I doubt that will ever happen. There might be a complaint here and
    there but the sheeple love Verizon and they trust them more than they'd trust you or me if we tried to tell them about the evil that's inside their beloved smartphones.

    Yup. And what happens over time is that they start having interesting things happen to them. When they talk about it, we just say "That's interesting. I use XXXX and I don't seem to have those issues." It takes time.

    Apple still exists because there's a portion of the population that simply doesn't want to understand technology and doesn't mind paying someone else to "just fix it". But, over time, that population gets smaller and smaller.

    It's hard to tell which programs or processes are necessary and which
    ones aren't. I try not to remove too much stuff because I've learned
    that later on the device will want that crap back.

    Same here. I'll go through my phone periodically (or if I get an "update" from Verizon) and clean out the trash. If I don't know what something is, a quick web search usually tells me. And sometimes I make a mistake but that's easily fixed. Some work, but at the end of the day, I'm more secure than most.

    Remember the old saying: I don't have to outrun the bear. I just have to outrun you.

    We need someone we trust to literally manufacture a phone, but show me
    a guy who knows how to do that who isn't an attendee at the WEF.

    Like I said, there are vendors out there who can do that. That's not the problem. The problem is getting those phones on the cell networks.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Mon Feb 10 06:59:30 2025
    I doubt that will ever happen. There might be a complaint here and there but the sheeple love Verizon and they trust them more than they trust you or me if we tried to tell them about the evil that's inside their beloved smartphones.

    Yup. And what happens over time is that they start having interesting things happen to them. When they talk about it, we just say "That's interesting. I use XXXX and I don't seem to have those issues." It
    takes time.

    Most smartphone users don't think about the fact that apps communicate with databases around the world. Websites can do it too, but with apps it becomes even more difficult to control (China probably loves apps.)

    We need someone we trust to literally manufacture a phone, but show m a guy who knows how to do that who isn't an attendee at the WEF.

    Like I said, there are vendors out there who can do that. That's not the problem. The problem is getting those phones on the cell networks.

    For me it's not worth the trouble to obtain a custom device. I rarely use mine, and I hardly take it with me anywhere.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Feb 11 07:24:06 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Most smartphone users don't think about the fact that apps communicate with databases around the world. Websites can do it too, but with apps
    it becomes even more difficult to control (China probably loves apps.)

    Most smartphone users today don't think about it. But people are waking up. There will always be ignorant users, but that's their problem.

    For me it's not worth the trouble to obtain a custom device. I rarely
    use mine, and I hardly take it with me anywhere.

    Which is why people tolerate this right now. They want the benefits, so they put up with the drawbacks.

    Now, if a company were to provide a device with the benefits but no (or at least fewer) drawbacks, that would drive the market toward more a more secure device.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Tue Feb 11 14:43:20 2025
    For me it's not worth the trouble to obtain a custom device. I rarely use mine, and I hardly take it with me anywhere.

    Which is why people tolerate this right now. They want the benefits, so they put up with the drawbacks.

    Now, if a company were to provide a device with the benefits but no (or
    at least fewer) drawbacks, that would drive the market toward more a
    more secure device.

    That sounds like it could catch on. Even people who don't understand or care about privacy concerns would potentially want to switch to "the device that's more private."

    Anything that takes power away from Google/Apple would be a good cause.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Feb 12 07:25:44 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    That sounds like it could catch on. Even people who don't understand or care about privacy concerns would potentially want to switch to "the device that's more private."

    Anything that takes power away from Google/Apple would be a good cause.

    But it takes effort too because more private also means "less convienent".


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