• Attack on Russia

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to All on Wed Aug 7 12:56:10 2024
    The mainstream media has reported that Ukraine has launched an attack on Russian soil, in the Russian town of Sudzha, in the Kursk region of Russia, resulting in injuries to 24 people.

    So in case I was "so wrong" before, I can now accurately say that the USA, under Biden-Harris's administration, has funded an attack on Russia. No longer can the whiners say "no, we're funding Ukraine to defend itself."

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  • From paul lee@1:105/420 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Aug 7 16:37:42 2024
    So in case I was "so wrong" before, I can now accurately say that the
    USA, under Biden-Harris's administration, has funded an attack on
    Russia. No longer can the whiners say "no, we're funding Ukraine to
    defend itself."

    Its so disgusting; how about this.... NO funding of WAR?

    Its our freaking monies man - when will we WAKE UP?



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to paul lee on Wed Aug 7 20:54:18 2024
    So in case I was "so wrong" before, I can now accurately say that the USA, under Biden-Harris's administration, has funded an attack on Russia. No longer can the whiners say "no, we're funding Ukraine to defend itself."

    Its so disgusting; how about this.... NO funding of WAR?

    Its our freaking monies man - when will we WAKE UP?

    Good point! If the government started telling us that they were going to spend billions to feed the homeless, most of us would probably be happy about that. But getting most of us to be happy about needless wars is not working!

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Wed Aug 7 21:16:34 2024
    So in case I was "so wrong" before, I can now accurately say that the US under Biden-Harris's administration, has funded an attack on Russia.

    Wrong. The USA is not at war with Russia and is not funding any attack.

    Ukraine is defending itself from a Russian invasion.

    Defending themselves in Russia?

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/07/europe/russia-ukrainian-troops-cross-border-intl /index.html

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Aug 7 20:45:00 2024
    Ukraine is defending itself from a Russian invasion.

    Defending themselves in Russia?

    When Japan attacked the USA at Pearl harbor did the USA reply in Pearl Harbor?

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Aug 8 06:02:20 2024

    Hello Aaron!

    07 Aug 24 21:16, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

    So in case I was "so wrong" before, I can now accurately say
    that the US
    under Biden-Harris's administration, has funded an attack on
    Russia.

    Wrong. The USA is not at war with Russia and is not funding any
    attack.

    Ukraine is defending itself from a Russian invasion.

    Defending themselves in Russia?


    Sometimes the best defense is a good offense.

    Russia now needs to pull back from Ukraine (a place they should not be in the first place) to try and defend the area that Ukraine has captured. That could tip the scales in some of the Ukrainian territories to allow Ukraine to take back what is rightfully theirs.

    Anyone who has played RISK at least once in their lives should know this is a common strategy.




    Mike


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Aug 8 07:19:36 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    So in case I was "so wrong" before, I can now accurately say that the
    USA, under Biden-Harris's administration, has funded an attack on
    Russia. No longer can the whiners say "no, we're funding Ukraine to
    defend itself."

    The Elitists like wars. It keeps people distracted from what they are doing.

    In this case, though, this might be their excuse to suspend elections. "It's a war!"


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 8 07:55:14 2024
    Ukraine is defending itself from a Russian invasion.

    Defending themselves in Russia?

    When Japan attacked the USA at Pearl harbor did the USA reply in Pearl Harbor?

    The USA killed thousands of Japanese civilians..

    I don't want to give my country a bad reputation, but I won't hide from the truth, and my country is funding the deaths of Russian civilians.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Thu Aug 8 08:29:50 2024
    Defending themselves in Russia?


    Sometimes the best defense is a good offense.

    Our money just killed at least 5 Russian civilians. When they retaliate, will you be happy with the number of American civilians who get killed?

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Aug 8 15:22:26 2024

    Hello Aaron!

    08 Aug 24 08:29, you wrote to me:

    Defending themselves in Russia?


    Sometimes the best defense is a good offense.

    Our money just killed at least 5 Russian civilians. When they
    retaliate, will you be happy with the number of American civilians who
    get killed?

    You act as if we're the only country pouring money into Ukraine.

    If Russia were to directly attack Americans, Article 5 of NATO would apply.


    Mike


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Thu Aug 8 15:30:18 2024
    Defending themselves in Russia?


    Sometimes the best defense is a good offense.

    Our money just killed at least 5 Russian civilians. When they retaliate, will you be happy with the number of American civilians wh get killed?

    You act as if we're the only country pouring money into Ukraine.

    If Russia were to directly attack Americans, Article 5 of NATO would apply.

    So then the leftist way to look at it is: go ahead and let the Ukrainian military kill all the Russian civilians they want, and if Russia retaliates, then we'll depend on the NATO alliance to defend us. Sounds smart.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Aug 8 18:29:22 2024
    When Japan attacked the USA at Pearl harbor did the USA reply in Pearl
    Harbor?

    The USA killed thousands of Japanese civilians..

    You have missed some key details.

    I don't want to give my country a bad reputation, but I won't hide from the truth, and my country is funding the deaths of Russian civilians.

    That is not true. The USA is one of many countries that helps Ukraine defend itself from the Russian invasion. This does not give your country a bad reputation.

    MAGA gives your country a bad reputation.

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Aug 9 10:22:06 2024

    Hello Aaron!

    08 Aug 24 15:30, you wrote to me:


    You act as if we're the only country pouring money into Ukraine.

    If Russia were to directly attack Americans, Article 5 of NATO
    would apply.

    So then the leftist way to look at it is: go ahead and let the
    Ukrainian military kill all the Russian civilians they want, and if
    Russia retaliates, then we'll depend on the NATO alliance to defend
    us. Sounds smart.

    Seems like you're perfectly happy to let Russia kill Ukrainian civilians.


    Mike


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Fri Aug 9 19:14:14 2024
    Hello Alan,

    Ukraine is defending itself from a Russian invasion.

    Defending themselves in Russia?

    When Japan attacked the USA at Pearl harbor did the USA reply in Pearl Harbor?

    FDR announced to a joint session of Congress that a state of war
    existed between the United States and the Empire of Japan.

    And then all Japanese and Japanese Americans in Hawaii were given
    special protection so they could remain in paradise rather than be
    returned to the Land of the Rising Sun.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Fri Aug 9 12:04:36 2024
    So then the leftist way to look at it is: go ahead and let the Ukrainian military kill all the Russian civilians they want, and if Russia retaliates, then we'll depend on the NATO alliance to defend us. Sounds smart.

    Seems like you're perfectly happy to let Russia kill Ukrainian
    civilians.

    No, Ukraine is an American asset. Biden is the one who was ok with it while Russia amassed troops along the Ukraine border for months and months and did nothing about it.

    Nobody should be killing anyone. This all could and should have been avoided, but the opportunity to squander money was knocking, and Biden seized the opportunity.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sat Aug 10 10:46:00 2024
    So then the leftist way to look at it is: go ahead and let the Ukrainian military kill all the Russian civilians they want, and if Russia retaliates, then we'll depend on the NATO alliance to defend us. Sounds smart.

    If Ukraine attacked Russia unprovoked, I doubt we'd be defending their
    actions.

    However, that is not what happened. Russia started occupying areas of
    Ukraine several years ago. In the last four years, they have invaded
    Ukraine. If Ukraine sees an opportunity for a counter offensive into
    Russian territory that would weaken their invader, they'd be stupid not to
    take it.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Aug 10 14:32:34 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Miller <=-

    No, Ukraine is an American asset. Biden is the one who was ok with it while Russia amassed troops along the Ukraine border for months and
    months and did nothing about it.

    Nobody should be killing anyone. This all could and should have been avoided, but the opportunity to squander money was knocking, and Biden seized the opportunity.

    Ukraine is the Elitist's money laundromat.

    EVERYTHING about Ukraine has been around stealing U.S. tax dollars and putting a good percentage into the pockets of the Elitists.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Sat Aug 10 13:25:16 2024
    So then the leftist way to look at it is: go ahead and let the Ukrainian military kill all the Russian civilians they want, and if Russia retalia then we'll depend on the NATO alliance to defend us. Sounds smart.

    If Ukraine attacked Russia unprovoked, I doubt we'd be defending their actions.

    However, that is not what happened. Russia started occupying areas of Ukraine several years ago. In the last four years, they have invaded Ukraine. If Ukraine sees an opportunity for a counter offensive into Russian territory that would weaken their invader, they'd be stupid not
    to take it.

    Our troops have been attacked in other countries. They were recently attacked by Iranians in Iraq (reuters.) The public in the USA wasn't outraged; they don't care, because it didn't happen here.

    Now Ukraine has recently attacked Russians in Russia, and killed 5 civilians in the process. That's different; 9 military members and 5 civilians died on their own turf. I expect that Putin will avenge their deaths, and I don't expect him to blame himself for it.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Aug 11 02:26:12 2024
    Hello Aaron,

    [..]

    Seems like you're perfectly happy to let Russia kill Ukrainian
    civilians.

    No, Ukraine is an American asset.

    Ukraine is an independent and soverein country that is trying to
    protect itself from an unprovoked invasion by Russia. And you want
    the USA to stand idly by and do nothing at all to prevent that
    from happening? Suppose we would have done nothing to stop Hitler?
    Do you think FDR and Hitler would have sat down together and made
    a toast to the Brave New World they had created?

    I reckon that is what you were hoping to happen - between Trump
    amd Putin.

    Biden is the one who was ok with it

    Biden is the one who told Putin NO - thus ruining Mad Vlad's plans.

    For Life/
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sun Aug 11 07:53:00 2024
    Our troops have been attacked in other countries. They were recently attacked by Iranians in Iraq (reuters.) The public in the USA wasn't outraged; they don't care, because it didn't happen here.

    I think it depends on what part of the public. I care. You apparently do.
    Many (D) voters may or may not care -- those that believe Joe Biden when
    he claims that no military members have died on his watch probably don't
    care.

    The general public, who may be so tired of "news" might care if they were
    even aware of it happening.

    Now Ukraine has recently attacked Russians in Russia, and killed 5 civilians i
    the process. That's different; 9 military members and 5 civilians died on thei
    own turf. I expect that Putin will avenge their deaths, and I don't expect him
    to blame himself for it.

    That last sentence is probably correct, especially the very last bit. I
    100% am certain he won't blame himself, even though he should.


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