• The CIA did 9/11 !!!

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to All on Tue Jun 18 18:00:46 2024
    Well, not exactly....

    SOURCE: ABC Radio National (Australia)

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-12/conspiracy-theory-believers-on-how-they- g
    ot-out-of-rabbit-hole/103907258?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us

    https://tinyurl.com/8n5bm4pc

    These conspiracy theory believers went deep down the rabbit hole - then found
    a
    way out

    "In her darkest place, the US-based Stephanie falsely believed the Twin Towers were destroyed by government design, and that the hijacked planes were edited into video footage.

    "She also falsely believed that the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, in which 20 children and six adults were murdered, was staged as part of a government plot to take away Americans' guns - and that the children's
    grieving
    parents were 'crisis actors'.

    "Today Stephanie is, in her words, a conspiracy theorist in recovery."

    One of the factors that drew her down the rabbit hole was gaining access to high
    speed internet, which "(took) her to some very dark places."

    "There was a thrill in believing she knew something others didn't; in having a mystery's solution at arm's reach.

    "(UK-based Brent Lee) also believed that September 11 was 'an inside job perpetuated by the Bush administration and certain intelligence agencies'.

    "Brent says it was comforting to blame the US government for the attacks - rather than believing the biggest military in the world at the time and the largest intelligence network could have missed so many signs.

    "'You just don't want to believe that that could happen because these people are the ones that are supposed to take care of you. And if they let that slip, to me that was unfathomable - so they must have done it instead,' he says.

    "I had been thinking that these [mass casualty events] were rituals; these were sacrifices. So now when everyone's saying that [these murders] didn't actually happen, well, what's the point in getting angry about this? Like, if no one died, why do I care?' he says. It was a turning point, and the start of Brent pulling away from the conspiracy theory community."

    Stephanie "finally typed 'debunk' into her browser and it was 'another shattering moment'. She was confronted with true stories about Sandy Hook and September 11.

    "'I said [to myself], I don't want to be like this anymore'. Today, she helps others through her support group, DOUBT (Discussing Our Unusual Beliefs Together)."

    Brent, meanwhile, co-hosts the podcast "Some Dare Call it Conspiracy", which "deconstructs popular conspiracy theories."

    So, there might be hope for some of you all yet.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Tue Jun 18 19:07:54 2024
    So, there might be hope for some of you all yet.

    There is no hope for people who's lives revolve around media reports.

    "(UK-based Brent Lee) also believed that September 11 was 'an inside job perpetuated by the Bush administration and certain intelligence
    agencies'.

    This sounds like an intentional misdirection; I'm a conspiracy realist who believes that 9/11 was an inside job, but I believe that it was perpetrated by Democrats and their worldly counterparts in an attempt to get Bush voted out of office, similar to how they used Covid-19 to get Trump voted out of office.

    But notice how I'm not using media reports to come up with that conclusion; I'm just using observation, history, and theory.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jun 19 10:23:12 2024
    So, there might be hope for some of you all yet.

    There is no hope for people who's lives revolve around media reports.

    "(UK-based Brent Lee) also believed that September 11 was 'an inside job perpetuated by the Bush administration and certain intelligence agencies'.

    This sounds like an intentional misdirection; I'm a conspiracy realist who believes that 9/11 was an inside job, but I believe that it was perpetrated by Democrats and their worldly counterparts in an attempt to get Bush voted out of office, similar to how they used Covid-19 to get Trump voted out of office.

    But notice how I'm not using media reports to come up with that conclusion; I'm just using observation, history, and theory.

    I don't think these people are only influenced by "media reports," at least not in the traditional sense. For example, one of them could read your message, see something in it they are feeling, and find it believable.

    Most people are not going to find evidence of a 9/11 hoax in a valid media article, but they might find plenty in a social media post or from some internet talking head... or a post from someone who believes as they do.

    Your belief sounds similar to the belief of Brent in the article. He found it impossible to believe that US intelligence could have missed the warning signs and much easier to believe it was some sort of inside job.

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