• Distractions

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to All on Fri May 3 14:52:32 2024
    The "university protests" that are being discussed by the media have a similarity to the George Floyd Race Riots of 2020. They are both occuring during a presidential election year, they both are motivated by division, they both are getting way more attention from the media than they deserve, and they both are stirring up idiots. The only difference is that now the protests are about something that doesn't even pertain to the USA.

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  • From paul lee@1:105/420 to Aaron Thomas on Fri May 3 17:11:36 2024
    The "university protests" that are being discussed by the media have a similarity to the George Floyd Race Riots of 2020. They are both occuring during a presidential election year, they both are motivated by
    division, they both are getting way more attention from the media than they deserve, and they both are stirring up idiots. The only difference
    is that now the protests are about something that doesn't even pertain
    to the USA.

    And certain politicians are treating them the same way as 48 months ago too... we see the exact same things that happened on Jan 6th and I guarantee the FBI won't putting hundreds of college aged kids in prison for 5 years or creating a years long pony show about the events - oh, except this isn't a one day thing and it isn't at one place where all the corruption lives. Its across our country - ahhhhhh who cares?



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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Fri May 3 20:15:16 2024
    The "university protests" that are being discussed by the media have a similarity to the George Floyd Race Riots of 2020.

    They are similar in that innocent people are being killed.

    They are both occuring during a presidential election year,

    There is more going on in the world than an election.

    they both are motivated by division,

    What division?

    they both are getting way more attention from the media than they deserve, and they both are stirring up idiots.

    These people are not idiots. They feel strongly about innocent people being killed and they protest.

    The only difference is that now the protests are about something that
    doesn't even pertain to the USA.

    The war in the middle east is not about the USA, it's not an American war.

    The protest is about America financing a war they feel is unjust.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to paul lee on Fri May 3 20:22:58 2024
    And certain politicians are treating them the same way as 48 months ago too... we see the exact same things that happened on Jan 6th and I guarantee the FBI won't putting hundreds of college aged kids in prison for 5 years or creating years long pony show about the events - oh, except this isn't a one day thing and it isn't at one place where all the corruption lives. Its across our country - ahhhhhh who cares?

    Four years ago the protests were about unjustifiable killings by police.

    Jan 6 was about the big lie that the election had been stolen.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to paul lee on Sat May 4 07:18:14 2024
    is that now the protests are about something that doesn't even pertai to the USA.

    And certain politicians are treating them the same way as 48 months ago too... we see the exact same things that happened on Jan 6th and I guarantee the FBI won't putting hundreds of college aged kids in prison for 5 years or creating a years long pony show about the events - oh, except this isn't a one day thing and it isn't at one place where all
    the corruption lives. Its across our country - ahhhhhh who cares?

    Somehow the George Floyd riots were a scheme to help Biden win. I'm not sure how that works, but I'm sure that it worked.

    It's confusing to see it happening again now though, because the incumbent is the one that they want to keep in office.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sat May 4 07:53:02 2024
    The "university protests" that are being discussed by the media have a similarity to the George Floyd Race Riots of 2020.

    They are similar in that innocent people are being killed.

    Are you sure? People have been killed during these university protests? I honestly have not heard about that. If so then it's the media's fault. They are the ones fomenting the protests. It's all the attention that turns them on.

    They are both occuring during a presidential election year,

    There is more going on in the world than an election.

    There is nothing more important to the world's elite than the US presidential election.

    they both are motivated by division,

    What division?

    The students think that they need to take sides when really there is no reason to take sides since we live thousands of miles away from somebody else's conflict.

    they both are getting way more attention from the media than they deserv and they both are stirring up idiots.

    These people are not idiots. They feel strongly about innocent people being killed and they protest.

    Reacting strongly to something you saw on TV is idiotic. There's no way that all those idiots were raped by Palestinians or had their IDs checked by Israelis. But it's plausible that they all watch too much TV.

    The protest is about America financing a war they feel is unjust.

    I should be glad that all these idiots are angry with Biden, but what about punishing the perpetrators of the coordinated attack on Israeli civilians?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sat May 4 14:35:48 2024
    The students think that they need to take sides when really there is no reason to take sides since we live thousands of miles away from somebody else's conflict.

    Students are not taking sides, they are protesting a war they feel is unjustified.

    What about the students who don't participate in the protest?

    BLM was not taking sides, they were protesting unjustified killings by police.

    They took the side of black victims, but they didn't care when people of other colors when they were killed by police.

    I should be glad that all these idiots are angry with Biden, but what ab punishing the perpetrators of the coordinated attack on Israeli civilian

    It's not Biden, it's long standing policy.

    The money to Israel wouldn't exist if it weren't for Biden's signature. This is Democrats hating muslims because muslims believe in God and Democrats don't.

    There's no "long standing policy" forcing Biden to give money to Israel just so that they can murder muslims all day for the next 3 years.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Sat May 4 16:54:42 2024
    On 04 May 2024, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    What about the students who don't participate in the protest?


    I've been kind of busy lately... I saw the best thing I have ever seen in a long time... maybe ever.

    I think it was UCLA... There was a large group of Pro Hamas on one side and on the other was a Pro American group. Sandwiched between them, the Police. Prior to what I'm about to tell you the Pro Americans were singing the national anthem and doing other patriotic things...

    And then all of a sudden out of nowhere one side starts chanting F*%k Joe Biden and the other chants back Let's Go Brandon... It was perfect!!!

    Joe kept his first campaign promise... He was going to be a uniter, and he nailed it. He should make a campaign ad showing his accomplishment <--- singular.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Sat May 4 20:38:32 2024
    I think it was UCLA... There was a large group of Pro Hamas on one side and on the other was a Pro American group. Sandwiched between them, the Police. Prior to what I'm about to tell you the Pro Americans were singing the national anthem and doing other patriotic things...

    And then all of a sudden out of nowhere one side starts chanting F*%k
    Joe Biden and the other chants back Let's Go Brandon... It was perfect!!!

    Ha! That's cool!

    I regret calling the protesters "idiots." They're angry with the same guy who I'm angry with.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sat May 4 20:33:54 2024
    Students are not taking sides, they are protesting a war they feel is
    unjustified.

    What about the students who don't participate in the protest?

    What about them?

    BLM was not taking sides, they were protesting unjustified killings by
    police.

    They took the side of black victims, but they didn't care when people of other colors when they were killed by police.

    That is not true.

    It's not Biden, it's long standing policy.

    The money to Israel wouldn't exist if it weren't for Biden's signature. This is Democrats hating muslims because muslims believe in God and Democrats don't.

    This is also untrue, it's just more spin.

    There's no "long standing policy" forcing Biden to give money to Israel just so that they can murder muslims all day for the next 3 years.

    Again, this is untrue.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Sun May 5 05:35:32 2024
    On 04 May 2024, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    And then all of a sudden out of nowhere one side starts chanting F*%k Joe Biden and the other chants back Let's Go Brandon... It was perfec

    Ha! That's cool!

    I regret calling the protesters "idiots." They're angry with the same
    guy who I'm angry with.


    They are idiots... U are empathetic to their cause. Continue calling them idiots.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun May 5 08:53:54 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to paul lee <=-

    Somehow the George Floyd riots were a scheme to help Biden win. I'm not sure how that works, but I'm sure that it worked.

    There are a lot of people today who are very "emotional" about things. So if you get them riled up about something, they can be effectively told to do something else because that part of their brain that has critical thinking skills has been switched off.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sun May 5 07:45:16 2024
    Students are not taking sides, they are protesting a war they feel is >> unjustified.

    What about the students who don't participate in the protest?

    What about them?

    They're taking Israel's side.

    They took the side of black victims, but they didn't care when people of other colors when they were killed by police.

    That is not true.

    Saying that something is not true doesn't make it untrue.

    The money to Israel wouldn't exist if it weren't for Biden's signature. is Democrats hating muslims because muslims believe in God and Democrats don't.

    This is also untrue, it's just more spin.

    Seriously, this is how things work in the USA. The aid doesn't get delivered without the president's signature.

    There's no "long standing policy" forcing Biden to give money to Israel so that they can murder muslims all day for the next 3 years.

    Again, this is untrue.

    Which "long standing policy" are you talking about? Or are you talking about unofficial policy? Or are you just parroting something you heard on TV this morning?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Sun May 5 07:46:08 2024
    I regret calling the protesters "idiots." They're angry with the same guy who I'm angry with.


    They are idiots... U are empathetic to their cause. Continue calling
    them idiots.

    They might fit into the "useful idiots" category this time ;)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun May 5 08:06:30 2024
    Somehow the George Floyd riots were a scheme to help Biden win. I'm n sure how that works, but I'm sure that it worked.

    There are a lot of people today who are very "emotional" about things.
    So if you get them riled up about something, they can be effectively
    told to do something else because that part of their brain that has critical thinking skills has been switched off.

    I've noticed this too. It's now typical human behavior. Instead of thinking about what's best for themselves, they think about how to appeal to others.

    It's a miscalculation of responsibilities. Should I go to class and get my degree? Or should I sleep in a tent and demand justice for something I saw on TV?

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Sun May 5 16:15:32 2024
    Hello Alan,

    They are similar in that innocent people are being killed.

    Are you sure? People have been killed during these university protests? I
    honestly have not heard about that.

    I think you've lost the plot. No one has been killed during the protests. The protest is about innocent civilians being killed in Gaza and the like.

    It is more than that. So much more than that. During the Vietnam
    War students chanted "LBJ! LBJ! How many kids did you kill today?"
    Nixon did not fare much better, especially after what happened at
    Kent State.

    If so then it's the media's fault.

    The media? Again!? :)

    Yeah. That's the ticket. Blame it on the media. There are two sides
    in every conflict. Whether in Gaza or on college campuses, it is always
    the same. Somebody is going to pay dearly for all the mess created.
    And then somebody else is going to clean it all up.

    They are the ones fomenting the protests. It's all the attention that turns
    them on.

    The issue is civilians being killed in Gaza. No one is "turned on" by that.

    It is not just innocent civilians who are being killed in Gaza, but
    also journalists and reporters. Along with innocent bystanders (most
    of them from Syria and Iran and other far off places). But let's not
    get ahead of ourselves.

    Talk about overkill. Hamas & Co. kidnaps a small handful of tourists
    at a music festival, and then uses them as bait to gain attention for
    their plight. Remember, these are freedom fighters defending their
    own people and land from foreign invaders. This whole thing would have
    been over within a week had Israel had any sense. But no. The Israeli
    prime minister would have none of that.

    They are both occuring during a presidential election year,

    There is more going on in the world than an election.

    There is nothing more important to the world's elite than the US
    presidential
    election.

    Sure, the upcoming election is important but it has nothing to do with the current protests.

    they both are motivated by division,

    What division?

    The students think that they need to take sides when really there is no
    reason to take sides since we live thousands of miles away from somebody
    else's conflict.

    Students are not taking sides, they are protesting a war they feel is unjustified.

    Students are taking sides. I see it every day. On campus at LSU, and
    across the country. Of course, these are all students, not really from
    Israel or Gaza. Some of them even have their own sleeping bags, and
    stay near the cafeteria, where they can get free food and coffee.

    BLM was not taking sides, they were protesting unjustified killings by police.

    Campus security never bothered checking student IDs. So why should
    anybody else? Problem is, I could never pass the sniff test at my age.
    So I had to sit this one out.

    These are not left/right blue/red issues.

    This is very clearly an age issue. Anybody old enough to drink
    is prohibited from participating. That means both you and me are
    fuddy duddies and cannot play.

    they both are getting way more attention from the media than they
    deserv
    and they both are stirring up idiots.

    These people are not idiots. They feel strongly about innocent people
    being killed and they protest.

    Reacting strongly to something you saw on TV is idiotic. There's no way
    that
    all those idiots were raped by Palestinians or had their IDs checked by
    Israelis. But it's plausible that they all watch too much TV.

    The war and killing in the middle east and other places is real, it's not a
    sitcom on TV.

    And yet most people view it as such. Who is fighting to defend
    Ukrainians from an invading Russian army? It is not America, Canada,
    or Europe. Who is fighting to defend Palestinians from an invading
    IDF controlled by a mad Israeli PM? It is not America, Canada, or
    Europe.

    What we have here in America is a mercenary army. Uncle Sam pays
    them for their time, sending them to places of his own choosing.
    And then they do exactly what they have been told, and trained, to
    do. And what is that, you might ask? Kill, kill, kill.

    The protest is about America financing a war they feel is unjust.

    I should be glad that all these idiots are angry with Biden, but what about
    punishing the perpetrators of the coordinated attack on Israeli civilians?

    It's not Biden, it's long standing policy.

    The USA continues to fund Israel's war machine, even as it murders
    innocent Palestinians in Gaza (35000+). Most of those men, women, and
    children are homeless, and starving. Famine will be the end result,
    and we all know who will wind up with more land.

    For Life,
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sun May 5 16:15:38 2024
    Hello Aaron,

    The "university protests" that are being discussed by the media have a similarity to the George Floyd Race Riots of 2020. They are both occuring during a presidential election year, they both are motivated by division, they both are getting way more attention from the media than they deserve, and they both are stirring up idiots. The only difference is that now the protests are about something that doesn't even pertain to the USA.

    My Lai. 16 March 1968. Vietnam. US soldiers offing ~500 innocent
    villagers, mostly women, children, and babies. That is what we did.
    Trained good boys to be murderers. Cold-blooded murderers. Aren't
    you proud of them?

    Lt. William Calley was proud of his baby killers. And so was
    President Richard Nixon, who commuted his life sentence to
    three years under house arrest. 25 other officers and men were
    also charged, but none convicted. This is what we called "justice"
    in a world gone mad.

    "Well, I was ordered to go in there and destroy the enemy. That was
    my job on that day. That was the mission I was given. I did not sit
    down and think in terms of men, women, and children. They were all
    classified the same, and that was the classification that we dealt
    with, just as enemy soldiers...I felt then and I still do that I
    acted as I was directed, and I carried out the orders that I was
    given, and I do not feel wrong in doing so, sir."
    ~Lt. William Calley, sworn testimony about his actions

    I am sure Israeli soldiers feel the same way about their "enemy".
    The only difference being the numbers (35000+ innocent civilians)
    slaughtered.

    Talk about baby killers.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Sun May 5 08:41:00 2024
    On 05 May 2024, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    They might fit into the "useful idiots" category this time ;)


    That was the new way of describing them

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Lee Lofaso on Sun May 5 12:35:36 2024
    I am sure Israeli soldiers feel the same way about their "enemy".
    The only difference being the numbers (35000+ innocent civilians) slaughtered.

    I'm glad that I stay out of their business, but I wish they would stay out of mine. You shouldn't try to think or feel for them either unless you live in Israel.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sun May 5 13:08:42 2024
    What about the students who don't participate in the protest?

    What about them?

    They're taking Israel's side.

    They haven't taken sides. Why would they?

    That is not true.

    Saying that something is not true doesn't make it untrue.

    No, something is untrue when it is not factual.

    This is also untrue, it's just more spin.

    Seriously, this is how things work in the USA. The aid doesn't get delivered without the president's signature.

    The aid comes from congress.

    There's no "long standing policy" forcing Biden to give money to Israel
    so that they can murder muslims all day for the next 3 years.

    Again, this is untrue.

    Which "long standing policy" are you talking about? Or are you talking about unofficial policy? Or are you just parroting something you heard on TV this morning?

    You really need to dig into some basic knowledge of the USA and it's history.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sun May 5 14:49:14 2024
    Seriously, this is how things work in the USA. The aid doesn't get deliv without the president's signature.

    The aid comes from congress.

    It can be made to sound that way, but the final step is the president's signature. President Biden had the opportunity to stop the "genocide of 600,000 muslims" but instead he sided with Israel, signed off on it, and gave Israel the money they needed to carry out the killings.

    Which "long standing policy" are you talking about? Or are you talking a unofficial policy? Or are you just parroting something you heard on TV t morning?

    You really need to dig into some basic knowledge of the USA and it's history.

    The USA helped establish Israel but there was never a policy that says that we have to finance the extermination of 600,000 muslims until Joe Biden signed it
    into law. It's not "long standing," and as soon as Trump gets back in office he will stop Israel, but hopefully it won't be too late.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sun May 5 15:28:50 2024
    The aid comes from congress.

    It can be made to sound that way,

    It is that way. That's a fact.

    but the final step is the president's signature.

    Notice Biden didn't hold up money provided by congress the way Trump did.

    President Biden had the opportunity to stop the "genocide of 600,00 muslims" but instead he sided with Israel, signed off on it, and gave Israel the
    money they needed to carry out the killings.

    Biden had/has nothing to do with the "genocide of 600,000 muslims".

    That's another fact for you.

    You really need to dig into some basic knowledge of the USA and it's
    history.

    The USA helped establish Israel but there was never a policy that says that we have to finance the extermination of 600,000 muslims until Joe Biden signed it into law.

    OK, so you do understand (to some degree) the long standing policy.

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  • From Mickey@1:229/307 to Aaron Thomas on Sun May 5 18:43:34 2024
    Re: Re: Distractions
    By: Aaron Thomas to Alan Ianson on Sat May 04 2024 14:35:48

    The money to Israel wouldn't exist if it weren't for Biden's signature. This is Democrats hating muslims because muslims believe in God and Democrats don't.


    Heresy, heresy, Praise mohamed and may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits.

    :-) sorry...


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sun May 5 20:15:30 2024
    The aid comes from congress.

    It can be made to sound that way,

    It is that way. That's a fact.

    Fact: Biden could have vetoed it but didn't.

    but the final step is the president's signature.

    Notice Biden didn't hold up money provided by congress the way Trump did.

    Congress doesn't provide money. They squander it. Taxpayers provide money. What are you talking about? Trump held up money? What money? Trump has nothing to do with the slaughter of muslims; it's Biden's thing.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sun May 5 20:26:44 2024
    It is that way. That's a fact.

    Fact: Biden could have vetoed it but didn't.

    Nobody said he vetoed it.

    Notice Biden didn't hold up money provided by congress the way Trump did.

    What are you talking about? Trump held up money? What money?

    Didn't you hear about the perfect phone call?

    Trump has nothing to do with the slaughter of muslims; it's Biden's thing.

    Biden has slaughtered no one.

    Trump banned muslims at one time not long ago. Has he changed his mind?

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon May 6 07:19:02 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I've noticed this too. It's now typical human behavior. Instead of thinking about what's best for themselves, they think about how to
    appeal to others.

    It's a miscalculation of responsibilities. Should I go to class and get
    my degree? Or should I sleep in a tent and demand justice for something
    I saw on TV?

    Those are the virtue signallers and narcissists. They've always been useless.

    No. I'm talking about the people who are rational 99% of the time. But when something happens that upsets them, they make irrational decisions. Think of scammers who hit someone up for a "charity" when they know that a family member just passed away.


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  • From Dr. What@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Mon May 6 05:19:24 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    Congress doesn't provide money. They squander it. Taxpayers provide
    money. What are you talking about? Trump held up money? What money?
    Trump has nothing to do with the slaughter of muslims; it's Biden's
    thing.

    The Ignorant Elitists always need something to blame their failures on.

    It's been Trump for a while now.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Mon May 6 06:39:12 2024
    Fact: Biden could have vetoed it but didn't.

    Nobody said he vetoed it.

    No, but you said it was congress that provided the money, but I corrected you by saying that Biden's signature was the last nail in the coffins.

    Notice Biden didn't hold up money provided by congress the way Trump di

    What are you talking about? Trump held up money? What money?

    Didn't you hear about the perfect phone call?

    Yea but Trump stuff is boring. It's Biden and his commitment to Israel that I'm interested in. The Trump allegations are always a dead-end.

    Trump has nothing to do with the slaughter of muslims; it's Biden's thin

    Biden has slaughtered no one.

    Sometimes the people who put murder weapons into the wrong hands ultimately get charged with murder.

    Trump banned muslims at one time not long ago. Has he changed his mind?

    There was never a muslim ban in the USA.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Dr. What on Mon May 6 06:45:22 2024
    Congress doesn't provide money. They squander it. Taxpayers provide money. What are you talking about? Trump held up money? What money? Trump has nothing to do with the slaughter of muslims; it's Biden's thing.

    The Ignorant Elitists always need something to blame their failures on.

    It's been Trump for a while now.

    Even when it's about Biden, they want it to be about "Trump."

    If Trump got away with murder, then they would demand that Biden get away with murder too. "Trump did it so our guy can do it too."

    Ignorant Elitists, indeed.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Mon May 6 07:26:32 2024
    my degree? Or should I sleep in a tent and demand justice for somethi I saw on TV?

    Those are the virtue signallers and narcissists. They've always been useless.

    No. I'm talking about the people who are rational 99% of the time. But when something happens that upsets them, they make irrational decisions. Think of scammers who hit someone up for a "charity" when they know that
    a family member just passed away.

    I understand. The students witnessing the protests are probably smart and they probably have good intentions, but somebody (apparently The Open Society Foundation and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation) are trying to corrupt their minds.

    Neither Soros nor Gates have ever "cared" about Palestinians in the past, but now that there's a Trump election, they're up to something.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Mon May 6 18:57:16 2024
    Hello Aaron,

    I am sure Israeli soldiers feel the same way about their "enemy".
    The only difference being the numbers (35000+ innocent civilians)
    slaughtered.

    I'm glad that I stay out of their business, but I wish they would stay out of mine.

    Lt. William Calley described the "enemy" as being unarmed villagers
    - mostly women and children - who posed no threat to anybody at all.
    The only survivors being six people - a mother and her kids, who
    hid for hours waiting for those baby killers from the USA go away.

    The only difference between US baby killers and Israeli baby killers
    being the number of dead. Took Calley and his men only a few hours to
    finish off some 500 or so Vietnamese babies. Israelis have been at it
    for six months, leaving 35000+ baby towelheads dead as a doornail.

    You shouldn't try to think or feel for them either unless you live in Israel.

    US soldiers were baby killers in Vietnam. And everywhere else they
    went. It is no different with Israel, or with any other country that
    claims to have an army.

    And you wonder why so many college kids are protesting on campus.

    For Life,
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Lee Lofaso on Mon May 6 14:29:52 2024
    US soldiers were baby killers in Vietnam. And everywhere else they
    went. It is no different with Israel, or with any other country that claims to have an army.

    This isn't Biden's first time killing children. He ordered a retaliatory strike that killed 11 children back in 2021.

    Combine that with all the bodies turning up at the border, and you've got a lot sins to be forgiven for after voting for the man who made it all happen.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Mon May 6 17:08:56 2024
    No, but you said it was congress that provided the money, but I corrected you by saying that Biden's signature was the last nail in the coffins.

    I'm afraid not. The money was provided by congress.

    Didn't you hear about the perfect phone call?

    Yea but Trump stuff is boring.

    Trump made other "perfect" phone calls.

    It's Biden and his commitment to Israel that I'm interested in. The Trump allegations are always a dead-end.

    The USA supports Israel.

    Biden has slaughtered no one.

    Sometimes the people who put murder weapons into the wrong hands ultimately get charged with murder.

    The war in the middle east is not Biden's doing.

    The USA does, as always, support Israel against Hamas.

    The USA has also supported civilians in Gaza.

    Trump banned muslims at one time not long ago. Has he changed his mind?

    There was never a muslim ban in the USA.

    Look up executive order 13769 and 13780.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Mon May 6 18:42:02 2024
    No, but you said it was congress that provided the money, but I correcte by saying that Biden's signature was the last nail in the coffins.

    I'm afraid not. The money was provided by congress.

    Where do you think congress gets money from? Get real. Ask any of your leftie friends who live in the USA if the president has the power to veto and let me know what they say.

    Trump made other "perfect" phone calls.

    What do you expect from the perfect president?

    It's Biden and his commitment to Israel that I'm interested in. The Trum allegations are always a dead-end.

    The USA supports Israel.

    There was aid for Hamas in the same aid bill. We're paying to watch them kill each other because our leftists think that's cool.

    Sometimes the people who put murder weapons into the wrong hands ultimat get charged with murder.

    The war in the middle east is not Biden's doing.

    Trump's fault, I forgot.

    Look up executive order 13769 and 13780.

    "Executive Order 13769 did not provide a basis for discriminating for or against members of any particular religion."

    and the other one:

    "The actions directed by Executive Order 13780 have among other things raised the baseline for the vetting and screening of foreign nationals, improved our ability to prevent the entry of malicious actors, and enhanced the security of the American people."

    That has nothing to do with religion either, and vetting and screening foreign nationals is precisely what the Biden administration is refusing to do (unless you want to get technical; they'll be screened in 10 years if they can still be located by then.)

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Mon May 6 18:36:26 2024
    I'm afraid not. The money was provided by congress.

    Where do you think congress gets money from? Get real.

    The same place congress has always got money from. It doesn't get more real than that.

    Ask any of your leftie friends who live in the USA if the president has the power to veto and let me know what they say.

    Veto power has not been questioned.

    Trump made other "perfect" phone calls.

    What do you expect from the perfect president?

    I expect Donald Trump to be jailed for his crimes.

    The USA supports Israel.

    There was aid for Hamas in the same aid bill. We're paying to watch them kill each other because our leftists think that's cool.

    Now you are just being silly.

    Trump's fault, I forgot.

    Is it?

    That has nothing to do with religion either, and vetting and screening foreign nationals is precisely what the Biden administration is refusing to do (unless you want to get technical; they'll be screened in 10 years if they can still be located by then.)

    You can implement border security without a muslim ban.

    It's too bad the GOP killed the bipartisan border deal (at Donald Trumps order).

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Mon May 6 20:48:04 2024
    It's too bad the GOP killed the bipartisan border deal (at Donald Trumps
    order).

    What order? What's the order number?

    As I'm sure you know Donald Trump lost the 2020 election so there is no executive order.

    Trump can't give executive orders anymore because he's not the president.

    No, but he is still shooting his mouth off and he did indeed give that order to his GOP maga base and they acted on it.

    In the USA, the president actually has no more power after he leaves office.

    Are you saying that Donald Trump is powerless?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Mon May 6 21:27:26 2024
    There was aid for Hamas in the same aid bill. We're paying to watch them each other because our leftists think that's cool.

    Now you are just being silly.

    I apologize for sounding silly about something so serious. I might be wrong, but I believe there was aid in the bill for both parties of the Israel-Hamas war, and also aid for Ukraine, but none for Russia. Anyway, that's how wasteful Democrats are; aid to 2 parties that are at war with each other, at the same time. It is ridiculous. Be glad that they don't this asinine stuff in Canada. Your liberal prime minister has treated you a lot better than mine has.

    That has nothing to do with religion either, and vetting and screening foreign nationals is precisely what the Biden administration is refusing do (unless you want to get technical; they'll be screened in 10 years if can still be located by then.)

    You can implement border security without a muslim ban.

    There's nothing about it that discriminates against religious groups, so the "muslim ban" phrase is inaccurate. It's just another political attack on Trump just like the "Russian collusion." Is Trump still facing federal time for Russian collusion?

    It's too bad the GOP killed the bipartisan border deal (at Donald Trumps order).

    What order? What's the order number? Trump can't give executive orders anymore because he's not the president. In the USA, the president actually has no more power after he leaves office. Is that different in Canada?

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue May 7 07:27:42 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Even when it's about Biden, they want it to be about "Trump."

    Of course. They need some sort of distraction for the plebes so that we won't realize that it's their policies that are bad.

    So with these university protests lately, everyone should be thinking: What are they trying to distract me from?

    If Trump got away with murder, then they would demand that Biden get
    away with murder too. "Trump did it so our guy can do it too."

    More like everyone complaining about how high inflation is and the Propaganda Ministry chanting "it's all the fault of the Orange Man. Orange Man Bad!"

    We should probably start using the term "Malignant Narcissists" instead of "Ignorant Elitists" since that's probably closer to what they are. I found this
    on YouTube which pretty much explains these people: https://youtu.be/K6LPai6M_j8?si=5aVlnpxwT61CyqjG


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tue May 7 05:38:56 2024
    Trump can't give executive orders anymore because he's not the president

    No, but he is still shooting his mouth off and he did indeed give that order to his GOP maga base and they acted on it.

    There's no proof of that. Show me the video or audio coverage of that please.

    In the USA, the president actually has no more power after he leaves off

    Are you saying that Donald Trump is powerless?

    Of course he is. In The USA, the president no longer has power to order anything after he leaves office.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Tue May 7 05:36:44 2024
    No, but he is still shooting his mouth off and he did indeed give that
    order to his GOP maga base and they acted on it.

    There's no proof of that. Show me the video or audio coverage of that please.

    That's an easy one.

    Just google it if you care.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Tue May 7 13:17:04 2024
    We should probably start using the term "Malignant Narcissists" instead
    of "Ignorant Elitists" since that's probably closer to what they are. I found this
    on YouTube which pretty much explains these people: https://youtu.be/K6LPai6M_j8?si=5aVlnpxwT61CyqjG

    I get why the Democrat (and some Republican) politicians are like that. They literally have a pot of gold at the end of their rainbows.

    Accusing others of what you intend to do, so the spotlight is on somebody else while you wash your hands, is a technology that really works.

    But what business do the voters have using narcissism? They have nothing to gain other than to say "my candidate won."

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tue May 7 12:58:04 2024
    No, but he is still shooting his mouth off and he did indeed give that >> order to his GOP maga base and they acted on it.

    There's no proof of that. Show me the video or audio coverage of that pl

    That's an easy one.

    Just google it if you care.

    There's no coverage of it. Show me the video or audio of Trump telling congress to kill the border deal, or accept the fact that you're severely brainwashed.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Tue May 7 19:36:58 2024
    That's an easy one.

    Just google it if you care.

    There's no coverage of it. Show me the video or audio of Trump telling congress to kill the border deal, or accept the fact that you're severely brainwashed.

    The coverage is extensive.

    Donald was not in congress. He was never in congress. He has been in contact with MAGA republicans and told them to kill the border deal and they did.

    Look it up.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tue May 7 21:46:34 2024
    That's an easy one.

    Just google it if you care.

    There's no coverage of it. Show me the video or audio of Trump telling congress to kill the border deal, or accept the fact that you're severel brainwashed.

    The coverage is extensive.

    Donald was not in congress. He was never in congress. He has been in contact with MAGA republicans and told them to kill the border deal and they did.

    Look it up.

    I did. There's articles that make the same claim that you're making, but none of them show any proof that Trump made that request. I read the NBC report in its entirety and there's no proof.

    You're a nice guy, but you're not being honest with me or with yourself.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Tue May 7 21:13:40 2024
    I did. There's articles that make the same claim that you're making, but none of them show any proof that Trump made that request. I read the NBC report in its entirety and there's no proof.

    It is a known fact that Donald Trump did not want any border deal because he felt it was a win for democrats. That's why he told congress to kill the deal, and that is why they did it.

    You're a nice guy, but you're not being honest with me or with yourself.

    I am being completely honest with you.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Wed May 8 05:08:02 2024
    I did. There's articles that make the same claim that you're making, but of them show any proof that Trump made that request. I read the NBC repo its entirety and there's no proof.

    It is a known fact that Donald Trump did not want any border deal
    because he felt it was a win for democrats. That's why he told congress
    to kill the deal, and that is why they did it.

    You're a nice guy, but you're not being honest with me or with yourself.

    I am being completely honest with you.

    You're being honest about what your opinion is, but "a known fact" isn't a fact unless it's proven or provable.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Wed May 8 07:13:00 2024
    I expect Donald Trump to be jailed for his crimes
    Well you'll be waiting for hell to freeze over.
    Nor will you find Trump in Jail guilty for any crimes.
    In the New York there is no case, nor was there any crime committed by Trump, in the New York case. Now outside those doors of the court in NYC, you will find crime committed by others but "Cheeseburger Brag" is not interested in any of that. We may see Trump in Jail because the Judge threated this already.
    Even the Judge said
    "You're a former President and you may well be the next."
    That's all you need to know, meanwhile enjoy the circus.

    Greg

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed May 8 07:18:20 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I get why the Democrat (and some Republican) politicians are like that. They literally have a pot of gold at the end of their rainbows.

    That just enabled their narcissism.

    Accusing others of what you intend to do, so the spotlight is on
    somebody else while you wash your hands, is a technology that really works.

    It's in "Rules for Radicals" from back in the 1960's and it was probably in use, but not well known, far before that.

    But what business do the voters have using narcissism? They have
    nothing to gain other than to say "my candidate won."

    That's all they need. Narcissism - it's all about them and them feeling good about themselves.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Wed May 8 07:21:16 2024
    Are you saying that Donald Trump is powerless?
    You don't need power to shoot off from your mouth.
    Sometimes all it takes is a Canadian making false allocations.
    Greg

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Wed May 8 04:18:30 2024
    I am being completely honest with you.

    You're being honest about what your opinion is, but "a known fact" isn't a fact unless it's proven or provable.

    It is indeed a proven and provable fact. We know that and we know why.

    Expect to see republicans spinning the border issue in spite of the fact they killed the deal that Biden wanted to sign.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Wed May 8 04:30:26 2024
    I expect Donald Trump to be jailed for his crimes
    Well you'll be waiting for hell to freeze over.

    Trump is indicted on many different charges. If he is convicted of any of those charges he will likely be jailed.

    Nor will you find Trump in Jail guilty for any crimes.

    If he is convicted that is where you will find him.

    In the New York there is no case, nor was there any crime committed by Trump, in the New York case.

    There is indeed a case in New York else there would be no trial.

    Now outside those doors of the court in NYC, you will
    find crime committed by others but "Cheeseburger Brag" is not interested in any of that. We may see Trump in Jail because the Judge threated this
    already.

    Trump will not be jailed because the judge threatened it. He will be jailed if he continues to break the conditions of his release.

    Even the Judge said
    "You're a former President and you may well be the next."
    That's all you need to know, meanwhile enjoy the circus.

    Yes, the judge explained it well although Trump shouldn't need these explanations.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Wed May 8 04:31:30 2024
    Are you saying that Donald Trump is powerless?
    You don't need power to shoot off from your mouth.
    Sometimes all it takes is a Canadian making false allocations.

    What false accusations?


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Wed May 8 07:46:56 2024
    I get why the Democrat (and some Republican) politicians are like tha They literally have a pot of gold at the end of their rainbows.

    That just enabled their narcissism.

    The intelligent ones know what they're doing with narcissism, and they will make it work at least briefly. Dumb ones fail when trying to use it.

    But what business do the voters have using narcissism? They have nothing to gain other than to say "my candidate won."

    That's all they need. Narcissism - it's all about them and them feeling good about themselves.

    There could be no other reason for anybody to vote for Biden besides narcissism, because Biden's narcissism would have to be working on them.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Wed May 8 08:14:36 2024
    I am being completely honest with you.

    You're being honest about what your opinion is, but "a known fact" isn't fact unless it's proven or provable.

    It is indeed a proven and provable fact. We know that and we know why.

    I have not seen proof, I don't believe narratives.

    I'm glad that the house was against it because it failed to address any of our security concerns. I would be disappointed if ex presidents were controlling house speakers though, and you could be right, but of course only if you had proof. However, since there's no proof of that, it would be ignorant to believe it.

    Ever seen the Michael Jackson/Oprah interview? "That's ignorant." ;)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Wed May 8 08:17:48 2024
    Are you saying that Donald Trump is powerless?
    You don't need power to shoot off from your mouth.
    Sometimes all it takes is a Canadian making false allocations.

    What false accusations?

    That Trump told congress to keep the border open.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Wed May 8 16:27:02 2024
    Hello Alan,

    [..]

    That has nothing to do with religion either, and vetting and screening
    foreign nationals is precisely what the Biden administration is refusing to
    do (unless you want to get technical; they'll be screened in 10 years if
    they can still be located by then.)

    You can implement border security without a muslim ban.

    The US banned Cat Stevens after the events of 9/11.
    Why? Because he is a Muslim. No other reason. He is
    a Muslim, and sings songs of peace. But that is his
    sin. He is a Muslim. Branded as a terrorist. By GWB.

    It's too bad the GOP killed the bipartisan border deal (at Donald Trumps order).

    After President Biden publicly declared he would sign it.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wed May 8 16:27:08 2024
    Hello Aaron,

    There was aid for Hamas in the same aid bill. We're paying to watch
    them
    each other because our leftists think that's cool.

    Now you are just being silly.

    I apologize for sounding silly about something so serious.

    I might be wrong,

    You are.

    but I believe there was aid in the bill for both parties of the Israel-Hamas
    war,

    There was military and economic aid for Israel, but nothing for
    Hamas at all. And no food or water for anybody in Gaza.

    and also aid for Ukraine,

    As well there should be, as there would be no Ukraine otherwise.

    but none for Russia.

    Oh, the Putin wing of the Republican Party would love to send guns
    and economic assistance to their buddy in Moscow. But the good people
    of this country won't let them.

    Anyway, that's how wasteful Democrats are;

    Then please, move to Moscow and pay your dues to Putin.
    And don't forget to join his army, becoming cannon fodder
    on the battlefields in Ukraine.

    aid to 2 parties that are at war with each other, at the same time.

    The USA is not providing an aid to Hamas. None whatsoever.
    President Biden has strontly condemned the actions of Hamas
    and other terrorist groups, as well as the scorched earth
    tactics of the IDF forces that have left 35000+ Palestinian
    civilians dead.

    It is ridiculous.

    It is genocidal madness.

    Be glad that they don't this asinine stuff in Canada.

    Bigfoot rules in Canada. Or Sasquatch, depending on area.

    Your liberal prime minister has treated you a lot better than mine has.

    Prime Minister Donald Trump. Would have got tossed out in two years.
    Or less, given the rules of play.

    That has nothing to do with religion either, and vetting and
    screening
    foreign nationals is precisely what the Biden administration is
    refusing
    do (unless you want to get technical; they'll be screened in 10
    years if
    can still be located by then.)

    You can implement border security without a muslim ban.

    There's nothing about it that discriminates against religious groups, so the
    "muslim ban" phrase is inaccurate. It's just another political attack on Trump just like the "Russian collusion." Is Trump still facing federal time
    for Russian collusion?

    The USA tossed Japanese Americans into concentration camps during
    WWII and even sent some of them to Japan (even though they could not
    speak Japanese). The only Japanese and Japanese Americans who were
    exempt from this rule were those in Hawaii, which was a territory
    at the time. Even after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, they were
    safe to remain at home.

    However, had the Japanese been Muslim it would have been a totally
    different thing. How to say "Allah Akbar!" in Japanese would be known
    by everyone ...

    It's too bad the GOP killed the bipartisan border deal (at Donald
    Trumps
    order).

    What order? What's the order number? Trump can't give executive orders anymore because he's not the president. In the USA, the president actually has no more power after he leaves office. Is that different in Canada?

    Canada has no president. Nor does it want one.

    For Life,
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wed May 8 16:27:14 2024
    Hello Aaron,

    US soldiers were baby killers in Vietnam. And everywhere else they
    went. It is no different with Israel, or with any other country that
    claims to have an army.

    This isn't Biden's first time killing children.

    He ordered a retaliatory strike that killed 11 children back in 2021.

    An army of children attacked the President of the United States.
    And what did he do in response? He gave them candy bars. And soda
    pop. Until Dr. Jill made him stop. All his fault. He should have
    known that sugar kills.

    Combine that with all the bodies turning up at the border, and you've got a
    lot sins to be forgiven for after voting for the man who made it all happen.

    Give the man a break! It was Cinco de Mayo! Had to give them a little something!

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Wed May 8 10:04:18 2024
    It is indeed a proven and provable fact. We know that and we know why.
    I have not seen proof, I don't believe narratives.

    You don't believe Donald Trump? He said it! Ask him yourself, he'll tell ya how it is.

    I'm glad that the house was against it because it failed to address any of our
    security concerns. I would be disappointed if ex presidents were controlling house speakers though, and you could be right, but of course only if you had
    proof. However, since there's no proof of that, it would be ignorant to believ
    it.

    If it was put up on the house floor it would have passed. No vote was taken. Why are republicans so scared of a vote?

    Ever seen the Michael Jackson/Oprah interview? "That's ignorant." ;)

    No, and I am not likely to go looking.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Wed May 8 10:08:42 2024
    What false accusations?

    That Trump told congress to keep the border open.

    Trump never said that. He said he didn't want a border deal to give the "democrats" a win, not in an election year.

    You'll be hearing all about the border from your local/state/federal republicans all about the border.

    If republicans actually cared about the border they would not have killed the deal. But they did.



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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Wed May 8 19:53:54 2024
    On 08 May 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...

    I expect Donald Trump to be jailed for his crimes
    Well you'll be waiting for hell to freeze over.

    Trump is indicted on many different charges. If he is convicted of any
    of those charges he will likely be jailed.
    The case in New York is weak. Not much of a case in Georgia and Florida has been indifferently post-poned.
    The NY misdemeanor has long ago expired ie: due to statue of limitations and Bragg has no authority bootstrap anything Federal to it.

    Proof that the case is weak and falling apart. https://nypost.com/2023/03/23/why-braggs-case-against-trump-is-falling-apart/

    Alvin Bragg's case against Donald Trump is running into a wall of skepticism including from left-leaning legal experts, liberal pundits.

    American people can see through Manhattan political trial against Trump
    House of Representatives Judiciary Committee
    https://tinyurl.com/2977yy7s

    Read the full indictment here.
    https://tinyurl.com/uec3j99u

    Trump will not be jailed because the judge threatened it. He will be jailed if he continues to break the conditions of his release.

    Release? He is not being held.
    Don't you mean if Trump violates this bogus gag order, of which is against Trumps constitutional rights.
    Greg

    ... Still waitng for that Coffee :)

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Wed May 8 19:56:42 2024

    On 08 May 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Are you saying that Donald Trump is powerless?
    You don't need power to shoot off from your mouth.
    Sometimes all it takes is a Canadian making false allocations.

    What false accusations?
    Everything from these baited breath lefties and left leaning media found online and in the media.
    They want Trump so bad, all this backfire on them.
    Just wait.
    Greg

    ... Still waitng for that Coffee :)

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Thu May 9 02:16:02 2024
    Alvin Bragg's case against Donald Trump is running into a wall of skepticism including from left-leaning legal experts, liberal pundits.

    I haven't seen any of that.

    American people can see through Manhattan political trial against Trump
    House of Representatives Judiciary Committee

    Are you talking about Jim Jordan's committee?

    That's a sorry state of affairs.

    Trump will not be jailed because the judge threatened it. He will be
    jailed if he continues to break the conditions of his release.

    Release? He is not being held.

    Donald Trump is charged with a crime and part of his conditions of release is that he doesn't speak publicly about witnesses, etc.

    Don't you mean if Trump violates this bogus gag order, of which is against Trumps constitutional rights.

    Trump can still speak as he pleases as he often does. He just can't speak publicly about witnesses as the gag order states.

    That is not uncommon or uncontitutional.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Thu May 9 02:17:22 2024
    What false accusations?
    Everything from these baited breath lefties and left leaning media found online and in the media.
    They want Trump so bad, all this backfire on them.
    Just wait.

    They want Trump? For what?

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu May 9 07:18:00 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    There could be no other reason for anybody to vote for Biden besides narcissism, because Biden's narcissism would have to be working on
    them.

    Exactly. And now we are back to the Malignant Narcissists.

    They can never be wrong and will always double down on their bad decisions.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Thu May 9 07:18:14 2024
    On 09 May 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Alvin Bragg's case against Donald Trump is running into a wall of skeptic
    including from left-leaning legal experts, liberal pundits.

    I haven't seen any of that.
    Of course you haven't

    American people can see through Manhattan political trial against Trump House of Representatives Judiciary Committee

    Are you talking about Jim Jordan's committee?

    That's a sorry state of affairs.
    So it automatically gets judged with negativity, because the truth does not live within your predetermined liberal set of ideas?

    Trump will not be jailed because the judge threatened it. He will be
    jailed if he continues to break the conditions of his release.

    Release? He is not being held.

    Donald Trump is charged with a crime and part of his conditions of
    release is that he doesn't speak publicly about witnesses, etc.
    No Donald Trump has not been charged with any crime.
    That's the issue and very much a problem with the way you people think.
    You hear the name Donald Trump and think guilty, without looking at any of the facts. Is Automatic.
    It is called TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome)

    ... Still waitng for that Coffee :)

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Thu May 9 05:17:14 2024
    I haven't seen any of that.
    Of course you haven't

    There is nothing to see.

    That's a sorry state of affairs.
    So it automatically gets judged with negativity, because the truth does not live within your predetermined liberal set of ideas?

    Jim Jordon has done nothing but obstruct.

    Donald Trump is charged with a crime and part of his conditions of
    release is that he doesn't speak publicly about witnesses, etc.
    No Donald Trump has not been charged with any crime.

    He is charged with falsifying business records. That is a crime.

    That's the issue and very much a problem with the way you people think.
    You hear the name Donald Trump and think guilty, without looking at any of the facts. Is Automatic.

    Donald Trump is on trial for his crime. Whether is is guilty or not will be detirmined soon enough.

    It is called TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome)

    Yes, you have a massive case of TDS.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Thu May 9 07:48:12 2024
    I have not seen proof, I don't believe narratives.

    You don't believe Donald Trump? He said it! Ask him yourself, he'll tell ya how it is.

    You can't prove something by telling someone to "ask someone else."

    If it was put up on the house floor it would have passed. No vote was taken. Why are republicans so scared of a vote?

    Congress (not just Republicans) do what the global elite want them to do. The narrative is that "they do what their constituents want them to do." One of their primary responsibilities is to create the illusion of a democratic system where there are 2 political parties to choose from, but their actions speak louder.

    Ever seen the Michael Jackson/Oprah interview? "That's ignorant." ;)

    No, and I am not likely to go looking.

    One of his catch phrases was "That's ignorant" and now I'm starting to sound just like him.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Thu May 9 07:55:26 2024
    What false accusations?

    That Trump told congress to keep the border open.

    Trump never said that. He said he didn't want a border deal to give the "democrats" a win, not in an election year.

    Yea but there's no proof that he said that. If there was proof of it, then it would be all over the media, but it's not.

    You'll be hearing all about the border from your local/state/federal republicans all about the border.

    Yea, I'll be hearing lies, empty promises, and reverse psychology from them about it.

    If republicans actually cared about the border they would not have
    killed the deal. But they did.

    Caring about the border and caring about that deal are 2 different things.

    It was going to limit the number of illegal immigrants allowed to enter to several thousand per day. Does that sound smart to you? How about 0 per day?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Thu May 9 08:14:34 2024
    There could be no other reason for anybody to vote for Biden besides narcissism, because Biden's narcissism would have to be working on them.

    Exactly. And now we are back to the Malignant Narcissists.

    They can never be wrong and will always double down on their bad

    That reminds me of 3 Fidonet guys who think that Trump ordered congress to disallow a vote on a border bill.

    The media was just talking about aliens on earth a few months ago. I bet that the 3 amigos will swear on a bible that there's proof of that too.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu May 9 07:14:32 2024
    You don't believe Donald Trump? He said it! Ask him yourself, he'll tell
    ya how it is.
    You can't prove something by telling someone to "ask someone else."

    I'm not saying "ask someone else". I'm saying ask Trump himself.

    It is well known what Trump says and does.

    If it was put up on the house floor it would have passed. No vote was
    taken. Why are republicans so scared of a vote?
    Congress (not just Republicans) do what the global elite want them to do. The narrative is that "they do what their constituents want them to do." One of
    their primary responsibilities is to create the illusion of a democratic syste
    where there are 2 political parties to choose from, but their actions speak louder.

    I can't disagree but my question was "Why are republicans so scared of a vote"?


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu May 9 07:19:24 2024
    Trump never said that. He said he didn't want a border deal to give the
    "democrats" a win, not in an election year.
    Yea but there's no proof that he said that. If there was proof of it, then it would be all over the media, but it's not.

    What!?!? :)

    You'll be hearing all about the border from your local/state/federal
    republicans all about the border.
    Yea, I'll be hearing lies, empty promises, and reverse psychology from them about it.

    Some things never change.

    If republicans actually cared about the border they would not have
    killed the deal. But they did.
    Caring about the border and caring about that deal are 2 different things.
    It was going to limit the number of illegal immigrants allowed to enter to several thousand per day. Does that sound smart to you? How about 0 per day?

    It would have been a beginning at least, but they killed it.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu May 9 07:23:06 2024
    That reminds me of 3 Fidonet guys who think that Trump ordered congress to disallow a vote on a border bill.

    Trump never said to disallow a vote. He said he didn't want a democratic "win" in an election year.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Thu May 9 11:03:50 2024
    narrative is that "they do what their constituents want them to do." One
    their primary responsibilities is to create the illusion of a democratic
    where there are 2 political parties to choose from, but their actions sp louder.

    I can't disagree but my question was "Why are republicans so scared of a vote"?

    Because that would make the world's elite angry. They are comfortable with Johnson because Johnson does what they ask. If they take a vote, they risk electing a speaker who will not serve the left's agenda.

    But then again, it depends on who you mean when you say "republicans." Which ones are scared? All of them? Some of them? Some guy who looks Republican?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Thu May 9 11:07:06 2024
    Caring about the border and caring about that deal are 2 different thing It was going to limit the number of illegal immigrants allowed to enter several thousand per day. Does that sound smart to you? How about 0 per

    It would have been a beginning at least, but they killed it.

    We already had a beginning for the border with Trump. His years saw the fewest illegal border crossings in decades, and Biden's years saw the most illegal border crossings since the days of indigenous American rule. It's Biden who killed everything, and that's something that there IS proof of.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Thu May 9 11:17:22 2024
    That reminds me of 3 Fidonet guys who think that Trump ordered congress disallow a vote on a border bill.

    Trump never said to disallow a vote. He said he didn't want a democratic "win" in an election year.

    Thousands per day isn't a "win." It's a "failure." It actually was going to allow illegal immigration instead of police it.

    Think about it.

    If we ran a gas station, and if we had a problem of people stealing gas, which is illegal, and we say "We're only going to allow 1000 gallons to be stolen per day," then is it time to pat ourselves on the back?

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Thu May 9 20:45:38 2024
    Hello Aaron,

    lot sins to be forgiven for after voting for the man who made it
    all
    happen.

    Give the man a break! It was Cinco de Mayo! Had to give them a little
    something!

    Biden is fine. It's the people who voted for him who are the real murderers.

    Both Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden are octogenarians. Along with
    several other old geezers who run our gooberment. And you;re
    complaining? Podnuh, lemme tell you somethin'. That gooberment
    healh care system ain't what it's all cracked up to be. I mean,
    just look at what happened to JFK. And RFK. And all the other
    Dead Kennedys. Not to mention those on the other side ...

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Thu May 9 20:45:44 2024
    Hello Aaron,

    but I believe there was aid in the bill for both parties of the
    Israel-Hamas
    war,

    There was military and economic aid for Israel, but nothing for
    Hamas at all. And no food or water for anybody in Gaza.

    The Associated Press says you are wrong:

    "More than $9 billion of the total would go toward humanitarian assistance in Gaza amid the Israel-Hamas war."

    The Biden administration provided no aid to Hamas.
    No military aid or economic aid. And no food for any
    terrorists, regardless of what side they are on.

    Then please, move to Moscow and pay your dues to Putin.
    And don't forget to join his army, becoming cannon fodder
    on the battlefields in Ukraine.

    Biden is the one who invited him to invade Ukraine.

    Excuse me?

    He did the octopus dance for 10 months while Putin amassed troops along the
    border.

    Putin invaded and illegally annexed Crimea, which is a part of
    Ukraine, in 2014. Eight years later he tried to finish the job,
    but was stopped cold, thanks to President Biden.

    You see, Donald Trump was a Russian asset occupying the White
    House. Thankfully for us all, his time ran out on January 20, 2021.

    The USA tossed Japanese Americans into concentration camps during
    WWII and even sent some of them to Japan (even though they could not
    speak Japanese). The only Japanese and Japanese Americans who were
    exempt from this rule were those in Hawaii, which was a territory
    at the time. Even after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, they were

    "Ladies and gentlemen, Mr Conway Biber."

    "That's the strongest peace force I've ever seen. There were more
    army tanks than I've ever seen. They're gonna keep peace all right."
    ~ Donald Trump, praising his hero, Vladimir Putin

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu May 9 10:44:32 2024
    But then again, it depends on who you mean when you say "republicans." Which ones are scared? All of them? Some of them? Some guy who looks Republican?

    All of them. Any why after an election do they say, it was rigged!

    Silly boys.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu May 9 10:48:04 2024
    It would have been a beginning at least, but they killed it.
    We already had a beginning for the border with Trump. His years saw the fewest
    illegal border crossings in decades, and Biden's years saw the most illegal border crossings since the days of indigenous American rule. It's Biden who killed everything, and that's something that there IS proof of.

    No, there is no evidence of that. There were many crossing the border under Trump also.

    You are going to need a working house to put something workable together and get it passed the senate if you want a solution to the border issues.

    It's really to bad they killed the border deal. It kills their talking points also.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu May 9 10:51:38 2024
    Trump never said to disallow a vote. He said he didn't want a democratic
    "win" in an election year.
    Thousands per day isn't a "win." It's a "failure." It actually was going to allow illegal immigration instead of police it.
    Think about it.

    That border deal was an improvement. Republicans rejected it.

    If we ran a gas station, and if we had a problem of people stealing gas, which >is illegal, and we say "We're only going to allow 1000 gallons to be stolen pe
    day," then is it time to pat ourselves on the back?

    You need a working house to put forward some workable legislation.

    You can vote for that.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Thu May 9 17:49:44 2024
    It's really to bad they killed the border deal. It kills their talking points also.

    The saddest thing about it is all the brainwashed people who think it's a "deal" to legally allow thousands of migrants per day while we're trying to "fix" the border.

    The same idiots will vote to further replace themselves if they vote for Biden again.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Lee Lofaso on Thu May 9 17:57:58 2024
    "More than $9 billion of the total would go toward humanitarian assis in Gaza amid the Israel-Hamas war."

    The Biden administration provided no aid to Hamas.
    No military aid or economic aid. And no food for any
    terrorists, regardless of what side they are on.

    Go ahead and blame congress, but Biden is the one who put the final signature on it.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu May 9 17:56:12 2024
    All of them. Any why after an election do they say, it was rigged!

    Silly boys.

    Hillary Clinton said the same thing about the 2016 election.

    Hillary congratulated DT on his win on election night or the day after.

    Donald never did that, or anything like that. Not that I expect him to.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu May 9 17:58:02 2024
    The saddest thing about it is all the brainwashed people who think it's a "deal" to legally allow thousands of migrants per day while we're trying to "fix" the border.

    It was a big improvement to what we have now.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Thu May 9 22:43:06 2024
    On 09 May 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...

    What false accusations?
    Everything from these baited breath lefties and left leaning media found online and in the media.
    They want Trump so bad, all this backfire on them.
    Just wait.


    They want Trump? For what?
    You're cluelessness stuns me. Reminds me of GPT-4 (Artificial Intelligence) when there is obvious bewilderment or confusion within a answer.

    I would think that the "They" would of been properly defined without any difficulty as well as the "What" and the motivation of the "Why" as well.

    Basically put - The Democrats and the libtards are out to "Get Trump" at any cost.

    Then again... it makes perfect sense, as to why you are stricken with confusion and delirium.
    You believe what the media has been feeding you, that has to be the case.

    You take in what the media says without even considering for one moment that what the media has been feeding you, has been completely wrong and bogus.
    Normally this is called being brainwashed, but not really true in your case because your a willing participant.

    Thinking for yourself, independently and maybe for the first time ever stop to consider, there is a narrative along with a drive and focus that is dastardly and sinisterly political.

    If you for one moment that there is no connection with the media and the Democratic party, I have a bridge I could sell you in Brooklyn.
    (chances are you will not understand that either.)

    Additionally before some left winded loon, blames me for the very same thing. ie: being brainwashed about Trump.

    I will say factually that Donald Trump has already been the President.
    You know what?
    It was way better then, compared to now - under this this geriatric fool Biden. Greg

    ... I always said you was Yellow.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Fri May 10 03:27:20 2024
    They want Trump? For what?
    You're cluelessness stuns me. Reminds me of GPT-4 (Artificial Intelligence) when there is obvious bewilderment or confusion within a answer.

    Oh, I forgot. Donald Trump is the victim!

    MAGA!

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Fri May 10 07:18:20 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    That reminds me of 3 Fidonet guys who think that Trump ordered congress
    to disallow a vote on a border bill.

    Since those 3 Fidonet guys can't think for themselves, they were only parroting what their masters told them to.

    The media was just talking about aliens on earth a few months ago. I
    bet that the 3 amigos will swear on a bible that there's proof of that too.

    Oh, ya. Got to ramp up the distractions from Bidenomics and inflation, and the foreign invasion at the border, etc.


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