I am setting up the infocom games as doors on Mystic. So far I have gotten 17 infocom games to work perfectly using netfoss. How ever some others have
issues on the users end and wont display at all or display while overwriting the text.

My setup for the BBS is running the latest Mystic A43 on Windows 7 32bit.

Here are the two situations:

A) You can see the game is running just fine on the BBS machine in the users local window but on their end nothing shows until you exit the game for them from the local window on the BBS machine.

B) The game does display on the users end but each line of text overwrites on its self. How ever in the users window on the local BBS machine it is displaying just fine.

Any input/suggestions for these two different situations?

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On 09 May 2019 at 10:30p, Shane O'Neill pondered and said...

I am setting up the infocom games as doors on Mystic. So far I have gotten 17 infocom games to work perfectly using netfoss. How ever some others have issues on the users end and wont display at all or display while overwriting the text.

My setup for the BBS is running the latest Mystic A43 on Windows 7 32bit.

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Any input/suggestions for these two different situations?

I'm not sure which games Infocom put out. But that said, have you installed
and are using a fossil driver of some kind like Netfoss? I have a few doors locally running on the BBS (same os and build of Mystic as you) and use
Netfoss to ensure a user can play things when they connect via telnet

Best, Paul

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I'm not sure which games Infocom put out. But that said, have you installed and are using a fossil driver of some kind like Netfoss? I

Yes sir, see below here:

gotten 17 infocom games to work perfectly using netfoss. How ever som

In fact the version is:
-= NetFoss Internet FOSSIL =-
for Windows

Version 1.20
September 16, 2018
Copyright (c) 2001-2018 PC Micro

It is strange how some work perfectly and others have one of the two
display issues I pointed out in my initial post. My gut tells me it is a NetFoss issue just by all the configurations I have tried and observed on
both the BBS machine and user machine.

I know there has to be something I am missing as I see for example the
infocom game Trinity, it will not show anything on the user end but looks perfect on the BBS machine in the user window.

infocom game Nord and Bert shows on the user end but each line of text overwrites the previous, like no line feeds. Yet on the BBS machine in the
user window it is displayed perfectly.

This is why I am reaching out, im out of ideas and knowledge on this.

Is there a better fossil driver?

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To: Shane.O'Neill
Re: Infocom games user display issues...
By: nospam.Shane.O'Neill to All on Thu May 09 2019 10:30 pm

From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.mystic

I am setting up the infocom games as doors on Mystic. So far I have gotten 17 infocom games to work perfectly using netfoss. How ever some others have issues on the users end and wont display at all or display while overwriting the text.

My setup for the BBS is running the latest Mystic A43 on Windows 7 32bit.

Here are the two situations:

A) You can see the game is running just fine on the BBS machine in the users local window but on their end nothing shows until you exit the game for them from the local window on the BBS machine.

B) The game does display on the users end but each line of text overwrites on its self. How ever in the users window on the local BBS machine it is displaying just fine.

Any input/suggestions for these two different situations?

Lots of later Infocom games actually use graphical text so using Netfoss without some kind of interpreter to convert the game to normal text may not work.

I found a program called Waffle Infocom that I run on synchronet, but it only works with Z3 files (first 20 or so, published Infocom games), so anything v.Z4 and above won't work.

An interpreter like Frotz might help you out if you can get it to work. For some reason I could never get the Windows version to work with Netfoss. I've heard Frotz will work just dandy under Linux with BBSs, but I haven't tried it yet.

Lots of people have suggested finding a Python Interpreter like Viola! (https://intfiction.org/t/viola-a-z-machine-in-python/6844) and converting it for use with Mystic, but that's beyond my abilities.

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I found a program called Waffle Infocom that I run on synchronet, but it only works with Z3 files (first 20 or so, published Infocom games), so anything v.Z4 and above won't work.

Cool, I will give that a try, maybe some of the old infocoms that are not displaying like Nord and Bert might with Waffle Infocom!

An interpreter like Frotz might help you out if you can get it to work. For some reason I could never get the Windows version to work with Netfoss. I've heard Frotz will work just dandy under Linux with BBSs,
but I haven't tried it yet.

Yeah I too played with Frotz, no luck for me either again being in Windows. Like you said I read folks in Linux have luck with it though.

Lots of people have suggested finding a Python Interpreter like Viola! (https://intfiction.org/t/viola-a-z-machine-in-python/6844) and
converting it for use with Mystic, but that's beyond my abilities.

You and I both! But might be enough to open my mind and dust off the old programmer in me and see what can be done. I say that like I have time and patients! LOL

Thanks for the reply I will explore your suggestion of Waffle for sure!!!!
S.

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On 16 May 2019 at 01:34p, Shane O'Neill pondered and said...

Thanks for the reply I will explore your suggestion of Waffle for
sure!!!! S.

sorry I have not been able to offer more ideas Shane. I hope you can suss
your problem out :)

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