Hi everyone,

This is an official release from the MBSE Development Team.

If you install MBSE in any other directory besides /opt, we will not support this.

From the MBSE docs ("MBSE BBS Basic Installation"):

"MBSE BBS is default installed in /opt/mbse [on GNU/Linux]. It should be possible to install the bbs in a different location but this is not
supported. Many have tried, and and only a few have succeeded. See
Filesystem Hierarchy Standard for more info."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard

TL;DR: Install MBSE anywhere but /opt and you're your own tech support.

(Note: this doesn't apply for FreeBSD where FreeBSD will install MBSE in /usr/local/opt.)

-- Andrew Leary
Michael Dillon
Sean Dennis

MBSE Development Team
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Hello Sean!

Tuesday February 22 2022 22:13, you wrote to All:

Hi everyone,

This is an official release from the MBSE Development Team.

If you install MBSE in any other directory besides /opt, we will not
support this.

From the MBSE docs ("MBSE BBS Basic Installation"):

"MBSE BBS is default installed in /opt/mbse [on GNU/Linux]. It should
be possible to install the bbs in a different location but this is not supported. Many have tried, and and only a few have succeeded. See Filesystem Hierarchy Standard for more info."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard

TL;DR: Install MBSE anywhere but /opt and you're your own tech
support.

What official release ?

What, where, when !

For many years I have been installing mbse at /home/mbse using ./configure --prefix=/home/mbse followed by a modified version of SETUP.sh where all instances of /opt replaced by /home.

No issues what so ever.

Why do I use /home?

Because I have different distros or just different versions of a distro and do not want to create duplicates of the entire mbse directories of more than 16Gb when ever I have to test a new distro version prior to installing it over a production system.

Michael had no issues with me and others doing so and DID OFFER FULL SUPPORT.

So what's your problem ?

Vincent

--- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
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Hello Vincent,

23 Feb 22 14:46, you wrote to me:

So what's your problem ?

It's funny how you break stuff constantly and then get smart when we say we're not going to support you if you can't follow instructions.

If you have an axe to grind, talk to Andrew, not me. I'm not here to deal with your backasswards install with its three instances of mbtask running at once (and you wonder why MBSE goes berserk). I mean, you couldn't remember how to get MBSE to answer telnet...

...which is in the instructions, by the way. I highly recommend you read them.

-- Sean

... Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally.
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)

Hello Vincent,

23 Feb 22 14:46, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

Hello Sean!

Tuesday February 22 2022 22:13, you wrote to All:

Hi everyone,

This is an official release from the MBSE Development Team.

If you install MBSE in any other directory besides /opt, we will
not support this.

From the MBSE docs ("MBSE BBS Basic Installation"):

"MBSE BBS is default installed in /opt/mbse [on GNU/Linux]. It
should be possible to install the bbs in a different location but
this is not supported. Many have tried, and and only a few have
succeeded. See Filesystem Hierarchy Standard for more info."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard

TL;DR: Install MBSE anywhere but /opt and you're your own tech
support.

What official release ?

What, where, when !

For many years I have been installing mbse at /home/mbse using
./configure --prefix=/home/mbse followed by a modified version of
SETUP.sh where all instances of /opt replaced by /home.

No issues what so ever.

Why do I use /home?

Because I have different distros or just different versions of a
distro and do not want to create duplicates of the entire mbse
directories of more than 16Gb when ever I have to test a new distro version prior to installing it over a production system.

Michael had no issues with me and others doing so and DID OFFER FULL SUPPORT.

So what's your problem ?

mkdir /opt/mbse;mount -o bind /home/mbse /opt/mbse

problem solved

Regards,
--
dp

telnet://bbs.roonsbbs.hu:1212 <<=-

... 9:55pm up 6 days, 6:55:22, load: 76 processes, 278 threads.
--- GoldED/2 1.1.4.7+EMX
* Origin: Roon's BBS - Budapest, HUNGARY +36-1-4454412 (2:371/52)

Hello Sean!

Thursday February 24 2022 01:26, you wrote to me:

Hello Vincent,

23 Feb 22 14:46, you wrote to me:

So what's your problem ?

It's funny how you break stuff constantly and then get smart when we
say we're not going to support you if you can't follow instructions.

If you have an axe to grind, talk to Andrew, not me. I'm not here to
deal with your backasswards install with its three instances of mbtask running at once (and you wonder why MBSE goes berserk). I mean, you couldn't remember how to get MBSE to answer telnet...

...which is in the instructions, by the way. I highly recommend you
read them.

I followed them totally but it does not deal with the way Mageia works or doesn't and it has been years since I set the system - like 20.

Problem possibly compounded by changing ISP's to Virgin Media a couple of months back and yes I am in the progress of trying to contact their technical dept to see if they block any ports - proving difficult to find a phone number or email address though. They just like to be paid :(


Vincent

--- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)

Hello Daniel!

Thursday February 24 2022 20:23, you wrote to me:

Hello Vincent,

23 Feb 22 14:46, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

Hello Sean!

Tuesday February 22 2022 22:13, you wrote to All:

Hi everyone,

This is an official release from the MBSE Development Team.

If you install MBSE in any other directory besides /opt, we will
not support this.

From the MBSE docs ("MBSE BBS Basic Installation"):

"MBSE BBS is default installed in /opt/mbse [on GNU/Linux]. It
should be possible to install the bbs in a different location but
this is not supported. Many have tried, and and only a few have
succeeded. See Filesystem Hierarchy Standard for more info."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard

TL;DR: Install MBSE anywhere but /opt and you're your own tech
support.

What official release ?

What, where, when !

For many years I have been installing mbse at /home/mbse using
./configure --prefix=/home/mbse followed by a modified version of
SETUP.sh where all instances of /opt replaced by /home.

No issues what so ever.

Why do I use /home?

Because I have different distros or just different versions of a
distro and do not want to create duplicates of the entire mbse
directories of more than 16Gb when ever I have to test a new
distro version prior to installing it over a production system.

Michael had no issues with me and others doing so and DID OFFER
FULL SUPPORT.

So what's your problem ?

mkdir /opt/mbse;mount -o bind /home/mbse /opt/mbse

problem solved

Regards,
--
dp

Only if I really want to use /opt :

I have other software that works in conjunction with mbse and a stack of others
that might have issues where mbse sits and yes I do NOT like using /opt as that
can be trashed by distro updates - at least in my previous experiences.

More importantly as mbse runs as a specific user and all users work via /home it would be silly if not possibly dangerous changing it.

My systems runs a large amount of differing systems some native and some not.

Thanks for your idea for getting around it and will take another look when time
allows as I am up to my neck in programming multi projects that I am really trying to complete soon-ish but some under tight time lines.

Vincent

--- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)

Vincent Coen wrote to Sean Dennis:

TL;DR: Install MBSE anywhere but /opt and you're your own tech
support.

What official release ?

What, where, when !

For many years I have been installing mbse at /home/mbse using ./configure --prefix=/home/mbse followed by a modified version of SETUP.sh where all instances of /opt replaced by /home.

Right, I did that too. IIRC there was something in the menus or languages that references /opt also. Support issues for such configurations aside, the vanilla
install should work no problem on CentOS Stream 8, if the modified setup does.

jbdigriz
---


Greetings, James Digriz
email: jbdigriz@bbs.dragonsweb.org

--- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (GNU/Linux-x86_64)
* Origin: DragonsWeb Labs BBS 1:123/755 (1:123/755)

Vincent Coen wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

Problem possibly compounded by changing ISP's to Virgin Media a couple
of months back and yes I am in the progress of trying to contact their technical dept to see if they block any ports - proving difficult to
find a phone number or email address though. They just like to be paid
:(

According to: https://www.virginmedia.com/help/broadband/enhance-your-wifi-security

They block ports 135, 137, 138, 139, and 445 which are for use with NetBIOS
and SMB. That should not affect your Linux system in any way.

I could not find a phone number for them either but I did see on

https://www.virginmedia.com/help/contact-us/fix-an-issue/broadband-tv-phone

that they do have a "Message Us" button that reads: "Our team is available Monday until Sunday, 8am until 10pm. We aim to get back to you as soon as
we can, but this might take longer if you get in touch outside of our
opening hours."

I don't know if that will help any but at least you shouldn't have any
issues with blocked ports.

-- Sean

... If I'm right 90% of the time, why quibble about the remaining 3%?
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