Hello All!

It has been suggested that I use ipv6, in a nutshell are there advantages of using, disadvantages to not using? Or is it just fun and nerdy to do so?

Regards,

Rick
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Awesome Net- Oregon FTN Hub - Portland, OR - www.awesomen (1:105/81)

Hi Rick!

Saturday September 11 2021 18:56, you wrote to All:

It has been suggested that I use ipv6, in a nutshell are there
advantages of using, disadvantages to not using? Or is it just fun and nerdy to do so?

It is convenient and useful. There are already sites and even Fido nodes available only over IPv6. Well, for Crimea there is one more advantage - it allows avoiding restrictions. ;)

Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

--- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
* Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)

Hi Rick!

11 Sep 2021 18:56, from Rick Smith -> All:

It has been suggested that I use ipv6, in a nutshell are there
advantages of using, disadvantages to not using? Or is it just fun and nerdy to do so?

It is simply a new version of IP.
We are out of stock of IPv4 addresses, and there are plenty of IPv6 addresses.

There are people that only have a public IPv6 address and a private carrier grade NAT IPv4.
If you only have an IPv4 address, then you cannot communicate with them any more.

So the advantage is that you can keep communicating with hosts that only have public IPv6 addresses.

And as there are no longer very cheap/free IPv4 addresses available, the move to IPv6 will be much stronger in the future.

For now you simply need IPv4 to address hosts with A records, and IPv6 with AAAA records. Normally servers will add both nowadays. (but for how long ...)

ricsi@menedetter:~$ host menedetter.net
menedetter.net has address 45.142.176.108
menedetter.net has IPv6 address 2a03:4000:4a:c5f::1

ricsi@menedetter:~$ host facebook.com
facebook.com has address 157.240.17.35
facebook.com has IPv6 address 2a03:2880:f15b:83:face:b00c:0:25de

Plus you encode "messages" into your address like Facebook does above, or some fido nodes do:
ricsi@menedetter:~$ host fido.ricsi.priv.at
fido.ricsi.priv.at has address 45.142.176.108
fido.ricsi.priv.at has IPv6 address 2a03:4000:4a:c5f:f1d0:2:310:31

CU, Ricsi

... The arctic is not hostile to people, only indifferent to them.
--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: Lend only what you can afford to lose. (2:310/31)

Hello Michiel!

Sunday September 12 2021 10:17, you wrote to me:

* Forwarded from area 'IPV6'
Hello Rick,

On Saturday September 11 2021 18:56, you wrote to All:

Good to see you linked up here.

Thank you... I have watched some videos and read some online journals and I am interested enough to pursue this. I do have just a basic question, will I have ipv4 and ipv6 concurrently? Or do I have to abandon ipv4 to utilize ipv6? That is the only thing I cant seem to find specifics on...

Thank you

Regards,

Rick
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Awesome Net- Oregon FTN Hub - Portland, OR - www.awesomen (1:105/81)

Hi Rick!

12 Sep 2021 08:24, from Rick Smith -> Michiel van der Vlist:

Thank you... I have watched some videos and read some online journals
and I am interested enough to pursue this. I do have just a basic question, will I have ipv4 and ipv6 concurrently? Or do I have to
abandon ipv4 to utilize ipv6? That is the only thing I cant seem to
find specifics on...

IPv4 and IPv6 work concurrently quiet happily.
If your ISP offers both, you will use them together normally.

Some ISPs that have few IPv4 addresses left, will give you a 100.0.0.0/8 carrier grade NAT IP.
You can use it to reach IPv4 services, but you cannot be contacted from other IPv4 hosts. (just like home NAT on 10.0.0.0/8 or 192.168.x.0/24. (just that it is done in the network of your ISP not on your router)

CU, Ricsi

... I found the perfect woman, but she was looking for the perfect man.
--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: Do Pasta and Antipasto cancel each other out? (2:310/31)

Good ${greeting_time}, Rick!

12 Sep 2021 08:24:58, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

Good to see you linked up here.

Thank you... I have watched some videos and read some online journals
and I am interested enough to pursue this. I do have just a basic question, will I have ipv4 and ipv6 concurrently? Or do I have to
abandon ipv4 to utilize ipv6? That is the only thing I cant seem to
find specifics on...

You could get the answer with one single command:

% ip addr list dev lo
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever


--
Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii

... god@universe:~ # cvs up && make world
--- /bin/vi
* Origin: ::1 (2:5020/545)

Hello Rick,

On Sunday September 12 2021 08:24, you wrote to me:

Thank you... I have watched some videos and read some online journals
and I am interested enough to pursue this. I do have just a basic question, will I have ipv4 and ipv6 concurrently? Or do I have to
abandon ipv4 to utilize ipv6? That is the only thing I cant seem to
find specifics on...

Most ISPs still offer a so called "Full Dual Stack" connection. That means you will still be able to use IPv4 as you do now and use IPv6 in addition to that. The OS and the application will figure out for themselves what protocol to use. If the other side also supports IPv6, IPv6 will tried first by default.

As Ricsi already mentioned some ISPs that are short of IPv4 addresses issue so called DS-Lite. But I do not think that will apply to you. European and Asian ISPs sometimes use DS-Lite, but in the US ISP's still have enough IPv4. I am not aware of US ISPs going DS-Lite yet.

So for the moment assume that you will have Full Dual Stack en use both IPv4 and IPv6 for both incoming and outgoing connections.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Hello Rick;

Rick Smith wrote to All <=-

Hello All!

It has been suggested that I use ipv6, in a nutshell are there
advantages of using, disadvantages to not using? Or is it just fun and nerdy to do so?

When it comes to routing priority, IPv6 takes priority over IPv4, so it'll appear to be faster if you're dual stacked.

... I may be schizophrenic but at least I have each other.
--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
* Origin: SBBS - Carnage! 2001:470:8a1e::3 (1:142/103)