Hey Tony;

Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

Agree totally, and yeah you're probably not surprised that I run a multimode gateway to try and bring these digital modes a little closer together. :)

How's that working out? I heard that they've been trying to come up with a method to bridge all the various protocols together but I have yet to hear
of one that is successful.

Haha true, unless you've got -j DROP rules in iptables. ;)

Oooh that's my favorite.. so seckzay too ;-> haha

And again, I'm messaging from the air. Offline mail still has niches where it can't be beaten. ;)

Since I found multimail I've been in paradise! I had a nice little tagline collection ions ago for my blue wave setup. *sigh* wish I had that.

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Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

Yeah, YSF is for Fusion, you can use a Yaesu Fusion radio to access
YSF, but it's open source. But I don't support Wires X, because of the proprietary hoops to jump through.

Our FCC is trying to mandate *all* ham systems now be open source.
Many are upset about this, but for what I see there's no issues with ham programming being open source. How else can others improve upon something?

Analog has its issues, especially when you network and want to identify who's who in the zoo. But not as bad as SSB, where even detecting
whether there's a valid signal is kinda difficult! :)

For DECADES all we had was analog and no one griped or complained. We all have mouths and used them to ID, in fact here we must every 10 minutes. As for packet that's another ball of wax. Most packages/firmwares have back doors
in which they can do an entire QSO with a bogus ID/Callsign. Bottom line:
no one really cares.

Pop, yes, though it lacks the folder structure. IMAP defaults to
online operation, but can work offline, but one kinda has to beat it
into sumbission for best offline experience. ;)

I don't really need folder structure for 100% personal email :) Actually I can't stand imap for just that reason. I use it on some systems only because that's what I'm forced to use, but I never put a darn file or message in any "folder". I'm old-school NOS, I have one file that contains my mail <G>

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Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

Hmm, I see that being a potential can of worms, like your mandated band segments and symbol rate limits, which are a PITA for the rest of the world. If I had a dollar for everytime some US ham says "You can't do that, it's against the rules". Well, I can, our rules are different.
;)

Just where are you going to cash in? xD

But I do like the principle of having ham systems open, especially the
air interface.

That's not happening here. The systems are all closed source. Only decent things we have are already open source.

We didn't have the extent of networked systems that we do today. ;) I
for one don't want to have to rely only on HF CW. HF propagation is
too flakey from here to the rest of the world, especially in recent
wimpy sunspot cycles. :(

HF is what our government pushes. They want hams off VHF/UHF for ecomm
so the commercial guys can take over.

Pop, yes, though it lacks the folder structure. IMAP defaults to
online operation, but can work offline, but one kinda has to beat it
into sumbission for best offline experience. ;)

Whip it, beat it, tell it that you care <G>

Well, echomail is like folders. I have a bunch of mailing lists, and sorting those into folders helps, just like echomail. :)

Echomail and personal Email are two totally different things though.

... I have PMS and a loaded gun, now, what did you say?!?!

Does your YL know this? <G>

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Hello Tony;

Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

But I do like the principle of having ham systems open, especially the
air interface.

If the airwaves were open source, we wouldn't pay license fees.

Actually, there's M17, in early stages of development. D-STAR's air interface is open spec, though at one stage you needed to be able to
read Japanese to get the full specs. Not sure if it's all been
translated yet. Only part not open is the audio codec, and that was a case of necessity, back in the day. Had D-STAR been designed today, there's a chance Codec2 might have been chosen instead.

Open spec is not open source though. That's just a test that says
"if you can figure out our code go for it... here's a hint". If you
need to make a patch you can't, unless it's your own code.

My folders are mostly for mailing lists, which ARE used for the same purpose as echomail. :)

I don't see physical folders but mail area indexes. Imap creates physical folders. More bytes off the drive.


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Hey Tony;

Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

Resource access is a kinda different thing.

That's part of why in the packet world, most guys don't even bother with setting up radios, they just go axudp. No tests needed either.

Open spec means there's an opportunity for someone to create the (open source) code, and some have - ircDDBGateway, etc, for example. :) And open spec in that it's the specs that are laid out, not just someone's code. ;)

Not in all cases. I did that with the linux version of Winlink RMS. That
began a very intense and nasty relationship.

Bytes? as if anyone cares in this days of multi terabyte drives. ;)

I like smaller drives, they back up a LOT quicker. If I had hot-swap raid that'd be another story.



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