• While not perfect, Telegram is..

    From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Tony Langdon on Tue Sep 8 19:30:06 2020
    On 08/09/2020 12:50 a.m., Tony Langdon : August Abolins wrote:

    While not perfect, Telegram is the best solution I've seen so far. :)

    In other respects it may be better. I think the message S)earch feature is amazing. So, it is relatively easy to track down a particular post.

    Stas' message-find on the FTN side is pretty decent too.

    I like that links in messages are managed in their on section called "Shared Links". And that too is S)earchable.

    Photos (Files?) & Videos have their own sections too. It's a convenient accessible cloud storage for stuff.


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to August Abolins on Wed Sep 9 14:26:00 2020
    On 09-08-20 19:30, August Abolins wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    On 08/09/2020 12:50 a.m., Tony Langdon : August Abolins wrote:

    While not perfect, Telegram is the best solution I've seen so far. :)

    In other respects it may be better. I think the message S)earch
    feature is amazing. So, it is relatively easy to track down a
    particular post.

    I haven't played with that side of things. I tend not to use search features unless they're obvious in front of me. :/

    And Telegram's handling of multimedia content is pretty good.


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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Wed Sep 9 12:25:26 2020
    Hi, August!

    08 ᥭ 20 19:30, August Abolins -> Tony Langdon:

    Stas' message-find on the FTN side is pretty decent too.

    Yep...
    Yesterday, some stupid Artificial Intelligence sent such a request, for which it received about 8000 msgs via netmail, one letter by one. :(
    Now I'm thinking what can be done about this without completely rewriting the search engine.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Wed Sep 9 13:30:00 2020
    Hello August!

    *** Tuesday 08.09.20 at 19:30, August Abolins wrote to Tony Langdon:

    While not perfect, Telegram is the best solution I've seen so far. :)

    In other respects it may be better. I think the message S)earch feature is amazing. So, it is relatively easy to track down a particular post.

    Stas' message-find on the FTN side is pretty decent too.

    I like that links in messages are managed in their on section called "Shared Links". And that too is S)earchable.

    Where do I find the "Shared Links" section?

    Photos (Files?) & Videos have their own sections too. It's a convenient accessible cloud storage for stuff.

    Where do I find those sections?

    BTW ... I was going to reply to this message with Telegram but most of the last paragraph is missing. For some reason, it seems to have been
    truncated after "(Files?)".

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Martin Foster on Wed Sep 9 15:46:58 2020
    Hi, Martin!

    09 ᥭ 20 13:30, Martin Foster -> August Abolins:

    BTW ... I was going to reply to this message with Telegram but most of
    the last paragraph is missing. For some reason, it seems to have been truncated after "(Files?)".

    I already know about the "ampersant" problem. This is a drawback of the currently used method of sending messages to Telegram. It will be solved soon.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Wed Sep 9 08:51:00 2020
    Hello Martin!

    ** On Wednesday 09.09.20 - 13:30, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

    Where do I find the "Shared Links" section?

    Photos (Files?) //[ampersand]// Videos have their own sections too. It's a convenient
    accessible cloud storage for stuff.

    Where do I find those sections?

    I'l; reply in TgM on the above.


    BTW ... I was going to reply to this message with Telegram but most of
    the last paragraph is missing. For some reason, it seems to have been truncated after "(Files?)".

    Yep. The ampersand char seems to trigger a cut-off through
    the gate.


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  • From Martin Foster@2:460/58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Wed Sep 9 15:55:10 2020
    Answering a msg from Stas Mishchenkov:

    Hi, Martin!

    09 ᥭ 20 13:30, Martin Foster -> August Abolins:

    BTW ... I was going to reply to this message with Telegram but most of the last paragraph is missing. For some reason, it seems to have been truncated after "(Files?)".

    I already know about the "ampersant" problem. This is a drawback of the currently used method of sending messages to Telegram. It will be solved soon.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    Hi Stas!

    Ah OK and keep up the good work :)

    Regards,
    Martin


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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tony Langdon on Fri Sep 11 23:19:52 2020
    Hi, Tony!

    11 ᥭ 20 19:25, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Yeah, not many really good options. URLs in offline readers are in
    the class of "ugly, but effective". :D Especially with Multimail's console interface it's a lot of mouse work - the keyboard shortcuts
    don't work in Windows either. :(

    Should we arrange a vote in favor of UUe or URL? ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Charles Pierson@2:460/58 to August Abolins on Sat Sep 12 03:46:10 2020
    Answering a msg from August Abolins:

    Hello Stas!

    ** On Friday 11.09.20 - 23:19, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon:

    Should we arrange a vote in favor of UUe or URL? ;)

    I think we can be fairly confident that noone would want UUE
    here.

    The links work very nicely. Access to files on the TgM side
    is very cool.


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    I haven't messed around with UUE in decades. I doubt I'd remember how.


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to August Abolins on Sat Sep 12 15:52:00 2020
    On 09-11-20 08:22, August Abolins wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    OpenXP doesn't have that problem! ;) The TAB key seeks out
    anything that looks like a link in a message. When it lands
    on the one you want, a tap on the C key copies the link to
    clipboard. Then simply switch your browser to proceed.

    But I thought we already established that OpenXP might not be sutable for me.
    )


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sat Sep 12 16:00:00 2020
    On 09-11-20 23:19, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Should we arrange a vote in favor of UUe or URL? ;)

    I think URL is the lesser of two evils, because UUE handling is even wrse in most FTN software. ;)


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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Sat Sep 12 12:54:20 2020
    Hi, August!

    11 ᥭ 20 20:35, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Should we arrange a vote in favor of UUe or URL? ;)

    I think we can be fairly confident that noone would want UUE
    here.

    I think so too.

    The links work very nicely. Access to files on the TgM side
    is very cool.

    However, we are losing some of the benefits of offline technology.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Charles Pierson on Sat Sep 12 13:06:46 2020
    Hi, Charles!

    12 ᥭ 20 03:46, Charles Pierson -> August Abolins:

    I haven't messed around with UUE in decades. I doubt I'd remember how.

    This is not necessary to remember now. It is enough to know that UUencoded files from all echo conferences that pass through my node can be viewed at https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/uue/ ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Sat Sep 12 11:02:00 2020
    Hello August!

    *** Friday 11.09.20 at 08:22, August Abolins wrote to Tony Langdon:

    I can restore sending files from Telegram to Fido.. ..
    Although, I strongly doubt that it will be better than
    now in the form of URL.

    Yeah, not many really good options. URLs in offline
    readers are in the class of "ugly, but effective". :D
    Especially with Multimail's console interface it's a lot
    of mouse work - the keyboard shortcuts don't work in
    Windows either. :(

    OpenXP doesn't have that problem! ;) The TAB key seeks out
    anything that looks like a link in a message. When it lands
    on the one you want, a tap on the C key copies the link to
    clipboard. Then simply switch your browser to proceed.

    ..... or alternatively, hit <Enter> on the highlighted URL and it will be loaded straight into your default browser :)

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tony Langdon on Sat Sep 12 13:33:18 2020
    Hi, Tony!

    12 ᥭ 20 16:00, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    I think URL is the lesser of two evils,

    It is for this reason that I did so as it is.

    because UUE handling is even wrse in most FTN software. ;)

    Anyone can improve this by using: https://github.com/huskyproject/hpt/blob/master/misc/uue.pm
    ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Tony Langdon on Sat Sep 12 08:29:00 2020
    Hello Tony!

    ** On Saturday 12.09.20 - 15:52, Tony Langdon wrote to August Abolins:

    OpenXP doesn't have that problem! ;) The TAB key
    seeks out anything that looks like a link in a message..

    But I thought we already established that OpenXP might
    not be sutable for me. )

    Heheh. Not "we". You wondered that it might not have the
    portability across devices that you seek. But you said that
    you might still like to give a visit.


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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Charles Pierson on Sat Sep 12 16:04:12 2020
    Hi, Charles!

    12 ᥭ 20 06:53, Charles Pierson -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    This is not necessary to remember now. It is enough to know that
    UUencoded files from all echo conferences that pass through my
    node can be viewed at https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/uue/ ;)

    That link works no problem with my point application here. So it works for me.

    So now you know that you don't have to mess with YuYue, and where you can see the decoded files. Hope this is useful to someone else.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/58 to Jay Harris on Sun Sep 13 15:44:10 2020
    Answering a msg from Jay Harris:
    On 13 Sep 2020, Tony Langdon said the following...

    ... A Canadian? It's like an American, without the gun, with health c

    And poutine! Don't forget the poutine!

    ??? That reference is lost on me (not a word that I understand).

    Poutine is a French Canadian dish that consists of french fries covered with >cheese curds & gravy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine

    Jay

    ... What do you call a pig that does karate? Pork chop.

    A-ha...
    I'm sorry. I didn't know that such a kind of food existed at all. I will have to try to cook.
    What sauce is usually used?


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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Jay Harris on Sun Sep 13 15:46:34 2020
    Hi, Jay!

    13 ᥭ 20 07:03, Jay Harris -> Tony Langdon:

    Poutine is a French Canadian dish

    Is this food typical only for Quebec or for all of Canada?

    that consists of french fries covered with cheese curds & gravy.

    Is gravy means "meat sauce"?

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Mon Sep 14 18:04:00 2020
    On 09-13-20 12:50, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Hi, Tony!

    13 ᥭ 20 18:45, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Anyone can improve this by using:
    https://github.com/huskyproject/hpt/blob/master/misc/uue.pm ;)

    Too tosser specific and I can't see a way to pick up my file with my mail. ;)

    Not at all. You can use it without tosser.

    Hmm, OK, still looking a bit ugly, given that the files are going to be dumped somewhere on the BBS system. Suppose I could always run Samba and share the file directory, so I can easily grab the files. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Mon Sep 14 18:07:00 2020
    On 09-13-20 13:21, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Hi, Tony!

    13 ᥭ 20 18:47, Tony Langdon -> Jay Harris:

    ??? That reference is lost on me (not a word that I understand).

    Jay means Putin - the prsidetnt of Russian Federation. ;)

    - Mr. President, they say Jen Psaki is pregnant.
    - Is it just me or the whole of Russia being accused?

    :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Jay Harris on Mon Sep 14 18:08:00 2020
    On 09-13-20 07:03, Jay Harris wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Poutine is a French Canadian dish that consists of french fries covered with cheese curds & gravy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine

    OK, never heard of it (and sounds a little gross - I'm not a fan of gravy on chips at the best of time). :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Tue Sep 15 18:40:00 2020
    On 09-15-20 09:09, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    In the example of using the library, you can explicitly specify where
    the decoded files will be created. It can be anywhere.

    But still not necessarily in a convenient place. And I don't like the idea of blindly decoding files. I need context, which is normally provided by the email it was attached to.

    As I said, the URL was the lesser of two evils. :D


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Tue Sep 15 18:44:00 2020
    On 09-15-20 09:22, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    In our area some oane are also very fond of fried potatoes with fried onions and a little meat gravy, but no cheese. It is quite edible. This dish has no special name. Not often found in Crimea. It is rather
    typical for Ukrainian cooking.

    Oh, OK. Sounds a bit like what some people might snack on here.

    It's a pity, but yesterday my doctor explained to me in great detail
    why I will never be able to try poutine. :(

    Dairy intolerant? High cholesterol? Or something worse?


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