The Wastelands BBS will be down for a couple of days due to PG&E shutting down power to my county. We are in a severe fire hazzard warning and shutdowns start at midnight tonight.....

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The Wastelands BBS will be down for a couple of days due to PG&E shutting down >power to my county. We are in a severe fire hazzard warning and shutdowns star
at midnight tonight.....

Sounds like some trouble in your area. I hope whatever it is passes and you'll be back without to much trouble.

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Alan Ianson wrote to Donald Price <=-

The Wastelands BBS will be down for a couple of days due to PG&E shutting

own

power to my county. We are in a severe fire hazzard warning and shutdowns

tar

at midnight tonight.....

Sounds like some trouble in your area. I hope whatever it is passes and you'll be back without to much trouble.

They keep pushing back the time so here's hoping. Winds seem milder than
what they were expecting.....


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Sounds like some trouble in your area. I hope whatever it is passes and
you'll be back without to much trouble.

They keep pushing back the time so here's hoping. Winds seem milder than
what they were expecting.....

Looking at California websites it looks like some blackouts are underway in Northern California but I am not sure why. Risk of wildfire? These blackouts are not the answer to risk of wildfire as far as I can see. First responders commented that the power outages impead their ability to respond to any emergencies and cause certain problems for those in the affected areas when there is no emergency.

I hope all of you come out of this quickly.

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On 9/10/2019 05:27, Donald Price -> all wrote:

We are in a severe fire hazzard warning

You too? We have a similar problem in this area.

and shutdowns start at midnight tonight.....

Here the power goes off when the poles burn down...

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On 2019 Oct 09 15:28:06, you wrote to Donald Price:

Sounds like some trouble in your area. I hope whatever it is passes
and you'll be back without to much trouble.

They keep pushing back the time so here's hoping. Winds seem milder
than what they were expecting.....

Looking at California websites it looks like some blackouts are
underway in Northern California but I am not sure why. Risk of
wildfire?

yes... power in the wires heats them... add in hot air and they sag even more... throw in some strong winds and you get live wires breaking and starting fires...

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Alan Ianson wrote to Donald Price <=-

Looking at California websites it looks like some blackouts are
underway in Northern California but I am not sure why. Risk of
wildfire?

PG&E was culpable in at least 1 fire in 2016, and as a public company
they've been deferring maintenance in order to maximize shareholder profits
- and now they have an unsafe network and the consumer is left paying in
lost income/spoiled food/etc.

realitycheckBBS was down for about 15 hours - all of the advisories blamed
RED FLAG (their emphasis, not mine) conditions - high wind, low humidity,
high temperature.

Here along the coast, where thousands were out of power, it was 75 degrees, 55% humidity, and a 3-5 mph breeze keeping things nice.


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The Wastelands BBS will be down for a couple of days due to PG&E shutting

down

power to my county. We are in a severe fire hazzard warning and shutdowns

start

at midnight tonight.....

-=Thumper=-
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Take care and be safe.
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Looking at California websites it looks like some blackouts are
underway in Northern California but I am not sure why. Risk of
wildfire?

PG&E was culpable in at least 1 fire in 2016, and as a public company
they've been deferring maintenance in order to maximize shareholder profits
- and now they have an unsafe network and the consumer is left paying in
lost income/spoiled food/etc.

So PG&E Is going to deliver the power the people need, if the weather is nice?

realitycheckBBS was down for about 15 hours - all of the advisories blamed RED FLAG (their emphasis, not mine) conditions - high wind, low humidity, high temperature.

Here along the coast, where thousands were out of power, it was 75 degrees, 55% humidity, and a 3-5 mph breeze keeping things nice.

Seems they aren't going to deliver if the weather is nice either.

Seems there is a problem there. This company should be held culpable for this stupidity, and the costs the people there have had to pay for it.

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Alan Ianson wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

Seems there is a problem there. This company should be held culpable
for this stupidity, and the costs the people there have had to pay for
it.

They're in bankrupcy over the damages paid for the fires in 2016-2017, so they'll pass those costs onto the rate payers. They've lost their claim to manage their own restructuring, so other groups can come in with re-org
plans. Queue the retention/transition bonuses!

The news broke that PG&E execs wined and dined 30 large customers over two nights at Silver Oak winery in Napa; when the news broke the CEO (laughably wearing a service vest over his dress shirt and tie) admitted that the event could have come off as "tone-deaf", but it had already been booked.


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Alan Ianson wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

Seems there is a problem there. This company should be held culpable for this stupidity, and the costs the people there have had to pay for it.

They're in bankrupcy over the damages paid for the fires in 2016-2017, so they'll pass those costs onto the rate payers. They've lost their claim to manage their own restructuring, so other groups can come in with re-org plans. Queue the retention/transition bonuses!

My fire insurance premium went from $550 to $950 when I inquired why
they said because of the fires to which I said wtf are you charging me
I didn't file a claim charge the people responsible for starting it and
he agreed.

The news broke that PG&E execs wined and dined 30 large customers over two nights at Silver Oak winery in Napa; when the news broke the CEO (laughably wearing a service vest over his dress shirt and tie) admitted that the event

could have come off as "tone-deaf", but it had already been booked.

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Alan Ianson wrote to Donald Price <=-

Sounds like some trouble in your area. I hope whatever it is passes and
you'll be back without to much trouble.

They keep pushing back the time so here's hoping. Winds seem milder than what they were expecting.....

Looking at California websites it looks like some blackouts are
underway in Northern California but I am not sure why. Risk of
wildfire? These blackouts are not the answer to risk of wildfire as far
as I can see. First responders commented that the power outages impead their ability to respond to any emergencies and cause certain problems
for those in the affected areas when there is no emergency.

I hope all of you come out of this quickly.

We had no wind and they gave excuses that there were 70 - 80 mph gusts over the ridges. That would have to be the High Sierras! It took 3 days to get power back on and then 2 to stabilize it. We kept getting surges all day Saturday and into Sunday. Finally yesterday afternoon it seemed to straighten out. Several
f
my neighbors lost Computers, Refrigerators, Freezers and so on. P.G.&E.
said during this type of outage they are not liable for losses.




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RUBEN FIGUEROA wrote to Donald Price <=-

The Wastelands BBS will be down for a couple of days due to PG&E shutting

down

power to my county. We are in a severe fire hazzard warning and shutdowns

start

at midnight tonight.....

Take care and be safe.

Made it through with no loss. :) Some neighbors were not as lucky.....


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We had no wind and they gave excuses that there were 70 - 80 mph gusts over the ridges. That would have to be the High Sierras! It took 3 days
to get power back on and then 2 to stabilize it. We kept getting surges all day Saturday and into Sunday. Finally yesterday afternoon it seemed
to straighten out. Several f my neighbors lost Computers, Refrigerators, Freezers and so on. P.G.&E. said during this type of outage they are not liable for losses.

Well, PG&E did turn the power off willfully. I think that makes them
liable but I guess a court would need to come to that conslusion.

It boggles the mind.

Ttyl :-)
Al

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Alan Ianson wrote to Donald Price <=-

We had no wind and they gave excuses that there were 70 - 80 mph gusts
over the ridges. That would have to be the High Sierras! It took 3 days
to get power back on and then 2 to stabilize it. We kept getting surges
all day Saturday and into Sunday. Finally yesterday afternoon it seemed
to straighten out. Several f my neighbors lost Computers, Refrigerators, Freezers and so on. P.G.&E. said during this type of outage they are not liable for losses.

Well, PG&E did turn the power off willfully. I think that makes them liable but I guess a court would need to come to that conslusion.

It boggles the mind.

I guess it wasn't stable enough. Blew two surge protectors and not sure if it took
out the desktop in my office now... :(


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I guess it wasn't stable enough. Blew two surge protectors and not sure if it took out the desktop in my office now... :(

Is it caused by storms or just incompetence?

Ttyl :-)
Al

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Alan Ianson wrote to Donald Price <=-

I guess it wasn't stable enough. Blew two surge protectors and not sure
if it took out the desktop in my office now... :(

Is it caused by storms or just incompetence?

They shut off the power to I believe 2 million people here to "protect us" from

wildfires due to their equipment. After we finally got power back, we went through
3 days of surges and power drops. All is well with my Desktop though. :)


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Hello Donald,

Is it caused by storms or just incompetence?

They shut off the power to I believe 2 million people here to "protect
us" from wildfires due to their equipment. After we finally got power back, we went through 3 days of surges and power drops. All is well
with my Desktop though. :)

It's hard to believe that this can even happen today but I'm glad your desktop is OK and I hope the powers that be there will take steps (spend the money) so this doesn't happen in the future.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Alan Ianson wrote to Donald Price <=-

Hello Donald,

Is it caused by storms or just incompetence?

They shut off the power to I believe 2 million people here to "protect
us" from wildfires due to their equipment. After we finally got power back, we went through 3 days of surges and power drops. All is well
with my Desktop though. :)

It's hard to believe that this can even happen today but I'm glad your desktop is OK and I hope the powers that be there will take steps
(spend the money) so this doesn't happen in the future.

Well.... now there's talk of shutting down this week again. I guess the CEO
of P.G.&E. Says this could go on for the next ten years......


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Well.... now there's talk of shutting down this week again. I guess the
CEO of P.G.&E. Says this could go on for the next ten years......

Do that here and the people will lynch you.

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Donald Price wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

Well.... now there's talk of shutting down this week again. I guess the CEO of P.G.&E. Says this could go on for the next ten years......

It'll be interesting to see what happens in the bankrupcy proceedings. Given their record of late (second bankrupcy due to short-sighted electricity contracts after funneling billions to their parent company in the 2000s, blowing up neighborhoods and killing their customers with ill-maintained gas lines, burning down entire towns due to ill-maintained power lines, all
while keeping a steadily increasing stock price and value to their shareholders (at least until 2017, that is...)

San Jose has proposed a customer-owned model. I'm sure PG&E will refuse, but not sure how long they'll have a say - especially when productivity losses continue to mount up.

I'm going to go long on my investments in ice manufacturing and generator sales.


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Ward Dossche wrote to Donald Price <=-

Do that here and the people will lynch you.

Around here, a lynching consists of a pre-negotiated multi-million dollar severance, fully vesting any existing stock options and the opportunity to resign to "spend more time with his family".

The definition will revert to the old definition before too long, I'm
afraid.


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