Hello All,

If you remove a link that has been unresponsive for quite some time, is there an easy way to delete all pending outgoing mail packets and tic files for this link? Or do you have to delete everything manually?

I probably should have asked this a long time ago, as when I have done it in the past I would just script up something to go through the *.lo file, remove any "^" or special characters before the path, as well as any lines that point to files wanting to be saved (basically everything a .tic file points at), and then use something like "xargs rm < somefile.clo" to remove the list. However, if the husky project has something built more specific to the task, I would much rather use it.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Nick

... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20181215
* Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)

Hello Nicholas,

If you remove a link that has been unresponsive for quite some time,
is there an easy way to delete all pending outgoing mail packets and
tic files for this link? Or do you have to delete everything manually?

BBBS has a nifty switch for such an occasion.

../bbbs z 1:234/567. That command will remove any mail and tics for the node and also disconnect them from any areas they are connected to and finally remove the node from your config. Simple as that.

I probably should have asked this a long time ago, as when I have done
it in the past I would just script up something to go through the *.lo file, remove any "^" or special characters before the path, as well as
any lines that point to files wanting to be saved (basically
everything a .tic file points at), and then use something like "xargs
rm < somefile.clo" to remove the list. However, if the husky project
has something built more specific to the task, I would much rather use
it.

There is an auto pause feature but I am not sure how it works. I'm going to be watching this thread and see what I can pick up. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)

Hello Nicholas,

Saturday May 09 2020, Nicholas Boel wrote to All:

If you remove a link that has been unresponsive for quite some time,
is there an easy way to delete all pending outgoing mail packets and
tic files for this link? Or do you have to delete everything manually?

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Michael

... node (at) f1042 (dot) ru
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: Moscow, Russia (2:5020/1042)

Hello Alan,

On Sat May 09 2020 07:15:40, Alan Ianson wrote to Nicholas Boel:

BBBS has a nifty switch for such an occasion.

../bbbs z 1:234/567. That command will remove any mail and tics for
the node and also disconnect them from any areas they are connected to
and finally remove the node from your config. Simple as that.

BBBS isn't the subject matter, though. ;)

There is an auto pause feature but I am not sure how it works. I'm
going to be watching this thread and see what I can pick up. :)

I wrote a bash script that works, but it doesn't actually remove the link or take the node number out of the area/filearea configs, so it's still somewhat of a manual process. Just looking for something easier that works well with husky software.

Regards,
Nick

... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."
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Hello Michael,

On Sat May 09 2020 17:43:14, Michael Dukelsky wrote to Nicholas Boel:

================ Cut rmLinkMail.bz2 ================
begin 644 rmLinkMail.bz2 M0EIH.3%!629364BP5Q(`#=!_@&??$0!______^_____O__]@(/[O%!UO?/>N M'K?6/9B5IE$^MSW;Z`/NWPR7K&WUSRWUW;NY2W>7QLY5Z;=G6AQ=7OCQ][X. M3?=76ZYN[LNO2[:5E[4=4[5%ZQY:7OO;S[[O;YWN?)N=VNA)"(1IB`"9!D-! M-&FE'Z@3Q1F4])LD8FGI#3)ZC0Q`8@@()&B>H]%/04]-1ZGA1H/2:,F@``#0 M`&@`$@DE4_0332::!DVHT!HT`T``T````!H#0$FHD:F1"GDTT*>FFF32,3)Z MC(`R:!HT8FFFC(#0`:!$D@0334TTC]3TB;U1H:/*/4T-#TF0>H````#0`T$2

...

end
================ End rmLinkMail.bz2 ================

Is this available for download somewhere? Or is there some Golded function I don't know about that translates this into something useful?

Regards,
Nick

... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."
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Hello Nicholas,

Saturday May 09 2020, Nicholas Boel wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

================ Cut rmLinkMail.bz2 ================
begin 644 rmLinkMail.bz2
M0EIH.3%!629364BP5Q(`#=!_@&??$0!______^_____O__]@(/[O%!UO?/>N
M'K?6/9B5IE$^MSW;Z`/NWPR7K&WUSRWUW;NY2W>7QLY5Z;=G6AQ=7OCQ][X.
M3?=76ZYN[LNO2[:5E[4=4[5%ZQY:7OO;S[[O;YWN?)N=VNA)"(1IB`"9!D-!
M-&FE'Z@3Q1F4])LD8FGI#3)ZC0Q`8@@()&B>H]%/04]-1ZGA1H/2:,F@``#0
M`&@`$@DE4_0332::!DVHT!HT`T``T````!H#0$FHD:F1"GDTT*>FFF32,3)Z
MC(`R:!HT8FFFC(#0`:!$D@0334TTC]3TB;U1H:/*/4T-#TF0>H````#0`T$2

...

end
================ End rmLinkMail.bz2 ================

Is this available for download somewhere?

Not yet. I may commit it to a Husky subproject but I don't know to which one. It may be used both in hpt and htick.

Or is there some Golded function I don't know about that translates
this into something useful?

Normally it is Ctrl-X. The parameter is declared as READuudecode in goldkeys.cfg. The path where the file will be saved is UUdecodePath in golded.cfg.

Michael

... node (at) f1042 (dot) ru
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Hello Michael,

On Sat May 09 2020 19:34:56, Michael Dukelsky wrote to Nicholas Boel:

Is this available for download somewhere?

Not yet. I may commit it to a Husky subproject but I don't know to
which one. It may be used both in hpt and htick.

huskybse would seem appropriate, since it can be used in multiple subprojects?

Or is there some Golded function I don't know about that
translates this into something useful?

Normally it is Ctrl-X. The parameter is declared as READuudecode in goldkeys.cfg. The path where the file will be saved is UUdecodePath in golded.cfg.

Figures, I never set that up. I'll see if I can get it working. ;)

Regards,
Nick

... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20181215
* Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)

Hello Michael,

On Sat May 09 2020 19:34:56, Michael Dukelsky wrote to Nicholas Boel:

Normally it is Ctrl-X. The parameter is declared as READuudecode in goldkeys.cfg. The path where the file will be saved is UUdecodePath in golded.cfg.

Looks like it works already, I just didn't have the UUdecodePath defined so it ended up in my /home/user directory.

So this basically removes the node number from your areas and fileareas, but leaves the link setting alone? If so, perfect! Can't wait to try it. Thank you! ;)

Regards,
Nick

... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20181215
* Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)

Hello Nicholas,

Saturday May 09 2020, Nicholas Boel wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

So this basically removes the node number from your areas and
fileareas, but leaves the link setting alone?

No, it deletes all netmail, echomail and file echos for the specified link. You may read the full description by running

perldoc rmLinkMail

To remove the link from echo- and fileareas you may run

hpt afix link_address '-*'
htick ffix link_address '-*'

After that you may use rmLinkMail.

If so, perfect! Can't wait to try it. Thank you! ;)

You are welcome!

Michael

... node (at) f1042 (dot) ru
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20170303
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09 May 20 21:01, Michael Dukelsky wrote to Nicholas Boel:

So this basically removes the node number from your areas and
fileareas, but leaves the link setting alone?

No, it deletes all netmail, echomail and file echos for the specified link. You
may read the full description by running

There is a nice BSO manager for OS/2 called XENOBM. It is easy to see what is on hold, and easy to kill or readdress...

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Is there something like that available for Linux? Other than showold.pl. ;)

'Tommi

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Hello Nicholas!

09 May 20, Nicholas Boel wrote to All:

If you remove a link that has been unresponsive for quite some time,
is there an easy way to delete all pending outgoing mail packets and
tic files for this link? Or do you have to delete everything manually?

That's what outbound managers are for.

BinkleyTermXE had a nice interface for that. Afaik it was possible to kill all outbound files for a specific node/point there. There was a way to start btxe without COM Port for outbound managing only. If btxe is available for your plattform you should give it a try. I used it for OS/2 but i forgot it when i migrated to Linux. Well, another point for the long growing corona todo list.

Regards

Kai

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Hello Michael!

09 May 20, Michael Dukelsky wrote to Nicholas Boel:

Not yet. I may commit it to a Husky subproject but I don't know to
which one. It may be used both in hpt and htick.

I don't think there are many standalone htick users so it's better placed to hpt. You could drop a note to htick that a removal tool can be found at hpt.

Regards

Kai

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.4.7
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Hello Nicholas!

09 May 20, Nicholas Boel wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

to which one. It may be used both in hpt and htick.

huskybse would seem appropriate, since it can be used in multiple subprojects?

huskybse is the initial base entry point for all husky projects. Or in other words the minimal must have for any subproject.

INSTALL How to compile, install and use the Husky software. READ THIS!

I'm not on the lastest source tree version but if there is still a huskymisc project then it would fit there as an independent tool.

HUSKY Miscellaneous Tools
=========================

The 'tools' subdirectory is contain four HUSKY tools: poll, send, request, tolower.


Regards

Kai

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Hello Tommi!

10 May 20, Tommi Koivula wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

XENOBM, Outbound Manager for Xenia Mailer V 1.00.pre1

Is there something like that available for Linux?

Before i tell you that the btxe/2 interface looks something like similar (but with less details/menu) have you tried to contact the author? It looks like ascii/ncurses output so there may be a good change for a port.

Regards

Kai

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.4.7
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Hello Tommi,

Sunday May 10 2020, Tommi Koivula wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

There is a nice BSO manager for OS/2 called XENOBM. It is easy to see
what is on hold, and easy to kill or readdress...

Is there something like that available for Linux?

I don't know about such a program for Linux. I don't think I need such a program. It's more actual for me to have a script that puts on pause the subscription of a link who has too much mail and files on hold. I'll write it when I have time.

Michael

... node (at) f1042 (dot) ru
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20170303
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On 10.5.2020 14:04, Kai Richter - Tommi Koivula :

XENOBM, Outbound Manager for Xenia Mailer V 1.00.pre1

Is there something like that available for Linux?

Before i tell you that the btxe/2 interface looks something like
similar (but with less details/menu)

Yes, I have BinkeyTerm also still installed in my OS/2. :)

have you tried to contact the author? It looks like ascii/ncurses
output so there may be a good change for a port.

The software is from the last century. So I didn't think of that.

'Tommi

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Hello Kai,

Sunday May 10 2020, Kai Richter wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

Not yet. I may commit it to a Husky subproject but I don't know
to which one. It may be used both in hpt and htick.

I don't think there are many standalone htick users so it's better
placed to hpt. You could drop a note to htick that a removal tool can
be found at hpt.

It is reasonable, thank you.

Michael

... node (at) f1042 (dot) ru
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