Hello Vague,


On Friday February 12 2021 22:50, you wrote to Lee Lofaso:

1) There is no node 1:3603/9999 in the nodelist.
2) There isn't even a net 3603.
3) Real names are tradition in Fidonet.

So, who are you?



Cheers, Michiel

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MvdV> So, who are you?

Indeed. I'm sorry, but I forgot the Q-code for this question, maybe you can remind me? My immediate thought QRU didn't compile. 8-)

Can it be that he's a node in the strange nodelist I got a week ago? A Danish attempt to overtake the FidoNet?



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Host,800,Bahamas_Islands_Area_Net,Open,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,IBN
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Host,805,Jamaica_Area_Net,Kinston_JK,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,IBN
;EX
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Host,810,Haiti_Areas_Net,Open,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,IBN
;EX
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Host,815,Dominican_Republic_DR,Haita_DR,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN
;EX
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Host,821,St._Kitts_Net_Area_Caribbian_USA,Open,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN
;EX
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Host,822,Nevis_Net_Area_Caribbian_USA,Open,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN
;EX
; Host,823,Antigua_&_Barbuda_Caribbian_USA_Net_Area,Open,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN ;EX
; Host,825,Dominica+Islands_Caribbian_USA_Net_Area,Open,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN ;EX
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Host,826,St._Lucia_Island_Caribbian_USA,Open,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN
;EX
;
Host,827,Granadians+Islands_Caribbian_USA,Open,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN
;EX
;
Host,830,Barbados_Caribbian_USA_Net_Area,Open,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN
;EX
; Host,835,Tobaco+Trinidad_Caribbian_USA_Net_Area,Open_TT,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN
;EX
; Host,850,Belize_Central_America_Area_Host,Belmopan_Belize,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN
;EX
; Host,855,Guatemala_Central_America_Area_Host,Open_Guatamala_City,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN
;EX
; Host,860,El_Salvador_Central_America_Area_Net_Host,Open_San_Salvador_ES,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,IBN
;EX
; Host,865,Honduras_Central_America_Area_Host,Open_Tegucigalpa_HR,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN
;EX
; Host,870,Nicaragua_NG_Central_America_Area_Host,Open_Managua_NG_Cntrl_America,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN
;EX
; Host,875,Costa_Rica_Cntrl_America_Area_Host,Open_San_Jose_CR,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN
;EX
; Host,880,Panama_Central_America_Area_Host,Open_Panama_City_PM,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN
;EX
; Host,899,Colombia_Cntrl_America_South_Area_Host,Barranquilla_Colombia_Open,Open,000-0-0-0-0,300,IBN
;EX





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Hi Dan,

On 2021-02-13 07:38:00, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

1) There is no node 1:3603/9999 in the nodelist.
2) There isn't even a net 3603.
3) Real names are tradition in Fidonet.

So, who are you?

Very interesting. I do know he's a troll who recently crawled out from under a rock in Dove-Net. Looks like he's impersonating a Fido node,
can anyone see the "via" lines of his messages and know what hub is
being exploited?

There are no Via lines in echomail, but his path lines start with: @PATH: 135/391. That is:

,391,Vague_BBS,Largo_FL,David_Duff,-Unpublished-,300,CM,INA:vague.ddns.net,IBN,ITN

So my guess would be: mister Vague is David Duff...


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi mark,

On 2021-02-13 11:05:26, you wrote to me:

So my guess would be: mister Vague is David Duff...

sounds like he just needs to go back over his configuration and fix the FTN
addresses in his fidonet areas, then... a simple thing to fix, really... certainly nothing worth flamage and heavy bombardment...

Sure, he must get a chance to fix it...

Bye, Wilfred.

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On 2021-02-27 10:26:55, you wrote to me:

1) There is no node 1:3603/9999 in the nodelist.
2) There isn't even a net 3603.
3) Real names are tradition in Fidonet.

So, who are you?

Very interesting. I do know he's a troll who recently crawled

out fr

under a rock in Dove-Net. Looks like he's impersonating a Fido

node,

can anyone see the "via" lines of his messages and know what hub

is

being exploited?

I do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because of a misconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, this was very deliberate.

I believe it was an honest mistake. He asked for help with his configuration (don't remember which area), and has since fixed it.

He still uses the alias. But that is ultimately up to the moderator, although it is a decenia old tradition (but not a ruel) in fidonet to use your real-name...

There should be consequence's for such action & behavior.

If you really feel that way, you should talk to the area moderator(s), or file a formal complaint with your *C, if you think it's not an echomail specific offence...

Exploitation was his goal at every angle, his handle - Vauge.

Your opinion, not a fact.

I also went to the nodelist, I found nothing.

Than you didn't look to close, it was very obvious from the path line and origin in his messages, who he was.

Could it be that these massages were gated to the newsgroups and then
back into Fidonet.

No.

Policy 4 rules Fidonet, but is there a provision within policy to
account for what Mr. Duff was able to pull off

He wasn't pulling anything off.

and additionally would he or could he be held accountable for a explanation of his previous antics?

If you think you have a case, file a complaint.

Now that Mr. Duff has a fully fledged node in Fidonet wouldn't it seem logical and appropriate to reach out to his NC to see if they could shed any light as to what happened?

I think it already is clear what happend.


Bye, Wilfred.

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On 27 Feb 21 10:26:55, Gregory Deyss said the following to Wilfred Van Velzen:

I do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because of a misconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, this was very deliberate. There should be consequence's for such action & behavior.

I think he fixed whatever the problem was.

Nick

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Re: Re: Who are you?
By: Gregory Deyss to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Feb 27 2021 10:26 am

I do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because of a misconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, this was very deliberate. There should be consequence's for such action & behavior.

What actions & behavior do you speak of, and what consequences do you propose?

Exploitation was his goal at every angle, his handle - Vauge.

He posted his thoughts and opinions, I don't see any exploitation.

Now that Mr. Duff has a fully fledged node in Fidonet wouldn't it seem logical and appropriate to reach out to his NC to see if they could shed any light as to what happened?

What happened!?

Host,135,Sunshine_State_Net,Gainesville_FL,Eric_Renfro

I'm almost certain that Eric Renfro can do without the drama.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 27 Feb 21 21:58:50, Gregory Deyss said the following to Nick Andre:

I think he fixed whatever the problem was.

Then the matter is closed, to spite how annoying he has been in the past.

Uhhhh, in the past... week? Month? I've never heard of this "vague" guy until recently.

Nick

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Re: Re: Who are you?
By: mark lewis to Gregory Deyss on Sat Feb 27 2021 07:20 pm

whether or not real names are required in this echo remains to be seen... the moderator has not spoken about it nor have they posted any rules for this area in years...

The rules are posted on the first of the month every month although there is no mention of real names.

If you are not seeing the rules I suspect your tosser is seeing the post as a dupe and letting it go.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 17 Mar 2021, Lee Lofaso said the following...

Hello Greg,

Re: Re: Who are you?
By: Gregory Deyss to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Feb 27 2021 10:26:5

I do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because

of a misconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, this

was very deliberate. There should be consequence's for such

action & behavior.

th
i can tell you, without a doubt, that the erroneous FTN address in

the

origin line was a misconfiguration... he had set up originally with

it

(via a configuration script) to rejoin fidonet he was hoping to

rejoin

the same net he had been in previously but that is not possible
anymore...

he was not aware that the address had been written to each of
his fidonet message areas' settings... it was not "deliberate" as in
was not trying to cause problems... once it was pointed out and he w
able to investigate his fidonet areas' settings, he was quite able t
fix the problem with the erroneous address in the origin line...

Good enough for me, I was merely acting upon emotional judgment as we bit of suspicion based on how he was with me in one particular echo.

You are clearly delusional.

Your so late to this message the issue as put to rest so long ago, I have to ask where ya been.

When he referred to me as King of Fidonet here in New York

Lemme tell you something, bub.

There is only one King of Fidonet around here.
And that ain't you. Wanna know why? Because Ross Cassell
claimed it first. And not a single sysop challenged him.
Furthermore, Ross Cassell has never relinquished his title.
He grabbed it, nobody challenged him, or even dares to.

Of course, he earned it. And everybody knew it.
As such, he did truly deserve the title.

If you are jealous, and feel you are more deserving than
Ross Cassell to be King of Fidonet, then there is only one
way to resolve this problem. You must challenge Ross Cassell
to a live duel on Facebook for the King of Fidonet title, as
he has already defeated every sysop in Fidonet. Or do like
all the other sysops did - live to another day by wimping
out.

The choice is up to you.

and then there also was use of the term Fidogod by him as well.

The Fidogods of Fidonet are a myth. As long as nobody tells Odin.

I told him I was neither of these.

Fidolord Greg of New York has a much more personal touch.
I like it.

I had to read all that just (but deleted the non-sense) I have to let you know I have never thought of myself of such titles that some wiseass punk came up with, nor do I want or deserve any such titles. I run my corner of things as the NC here in New York, the nodes that I currently serve will tell you that there is no godlike complex with me, whatsoever.

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Lee Lofaso wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-

Every sysop is lord and master of his/her own system.
As well as his/her own universe.

I forget who it was that compared the telephone network to the internet by saying that the telephone network was a smart network with dumb endpoints,
and the internet was a dumb network with smart endpoints. It seemed like a sound analogy.




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Hello Kurt Weiske!

** On Saturday 20.03.21 - 09:16, you wrote:

I forget who it was that compared the telephone network to
the internet by saying that the telephone network was a
smart network with dumb endpoints, and the internet was a
dumb network with smart endpoints. It seemed like a sound
analogy.

Maybe Intel(tm) Inside but Dummy Outside, no matter what
network. :D
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