An interesting post by Rob Swindell:
"What's Wrong With FidoNet?" https://wiki.synchro.net/wiki:user:digital_man#what_s_wrong_with_fidon
et
Summary:
- Backward Compatibility
- Location-based Addressing
- Packet Format
- Siloed Development
- Character Sets
- Node List
(I had read it some time ago, but I've seen it on an othernet and I
think it hadn't been posted around here.)
An interesting post by Rob Swindell:
(I had read it some time ago, but I've seen it on an othernet and I think it
hadn't been posted around here.)
(I had read it some time ago, but I've seen it on an othernet and I
think it hadn't been posted around here.)
Thank you for bringing that post to our attention. Perhaps Mr.
Swindell might find it worthwhile to have his article(s) published
in the Fidonews, rather than limit his rantings on wikiland and
other such places.
It is apparent that Mr. Swindell is not interested in Fidonet or
the Fidonet community. Otherwise, he would have had several articles published in the Fidonews.
That is my take on the subject.
Thank you for bringing that post to our attention. Perhaps Mr.
Swindell might find it worthwhile to have his article(s) published
in the Fidonews, rather than limit his rantings on wikiland and
other such places.
What's wrong with where it is published?
It is apparent that Mr. Swindell is not interested in Fidonet or
the Fidonet community. Otherwise, he would have had several articles
published in the Fidonews.
Mr. Swindell has done much, so much to support Fidonet and all FTN networks,
for decades now.
That is my take on the subject.
The Synchronet wiki is a good read for anything BBS related.
I'm not saying it couldn't or shouldn't be a fidonews article. I'm just saying it is fine where it is.
Thank you for bringing that post to our attention. Perhaps Mr.
Swindell might find it worthwhile to have his article(s) published
in the Fidonews, rather than limit his rantings on wikiland and
other such places.
What's wrong with where it is published?
That is not the issue.
The real issue, as noted by Michiel, is why has Mr. Swindell chosen
not to have his article(s) published in the Fidonews.
It is apparent that Mr. Swindell is not interested in Fidonet or
the Fidonet community. Otherwise, he would have had several articles
published in the Fidonews.
Mr. Swindell has done much, so much to support Fidonet and all FTN
networks, for decades now.
The fact remains that Mr. Swindell has avoided having his article(s) published in the Fidonews.
The Synchronet wiki is a good read for anything BBS related.
Please do keep up. The issue is not where else has Mr. Swindell
had his article(s) published. Both me and Michiel have noted this.
I am sure others have, too. Especially Mr. Swindell.
I'm not saying it couldn't or shouldn't be a fidonews article. I'm just
saying it is fine where it is.
It is not fine for a nodelisted Fidonet sysop to have ignored the
entire Fidonet of nodelisted sysops by his own refusal to have had
any of his articles published in the Fidonews.
I was tempted to make some comments. Most of it could be summarized as "every evolving technology has that problem" or "so what, whät is the problem?
But I decided not to, Why? The article is not published in Fidonews
and the main topic of this forum is about articles published in
Fidonews.
(I had read it some time ago, but I've seen it on an othernet and
I think it hadn't been posted around here.)
What stops the author from publishing in Fidonews?
Mr. Swindell has done much, so much to support Fidonet and all FTN networks, for decades now.
But I decided not to, Why? The article is not published in
Fidonews and the main topic of this forum is about articles
published in Fidonews.
Theoretically...
What echo do you think would have been more appropriate, for this or
any general Fidonet-related discussions? (excluding sysop echos)
What stops the author from publishing in Fidonews?
I don't know. He doesn't have to, anyway.
I was tempted to make some comments. Most of it could be summarized as
"every evolving technology has that problem" or "so what, wh„t is the
problem?
But I decided not to, Why? The article is not published in Fidonews
and the main topic of this forum is about articles published in
Fidonews.
Theoretically...
What echo do you think would have been more appropriate, for this or any general Fidonet-related discussions? (excluding sysop echos)
(I had read it some time ago, but I've seen it on an othernet and
I think it hadn't been posted around here.)
What stops the author from publishing in Fidonews?
I don't know. He doesn't have to, anyway.
Thank you for bringing that post to our attention. Perhaps Mr.
Swindell might find it worthwhile to have his article(s) published
in the Fidonews, rather than limit his rantings on wikiland and
other such places.
What's wrong with where it is published?
That is not the issue.
That is my question (that you are avoiding). What is wrong with where it is
published?
The real issue, as noted by Michiel, is why has Mr. Swindell chosen
not to have his article(s) published in the Fidonews.
Maybe publication in the Fidonews was never the idea?
It is apparent that Mr. Swindell is not interested in Fidonet or
the Fidonet community. Otherwise, he would have had several articles
published in the Fidonews.
Mr. Swindell has done much, so much to support Fidonet and all FTN
networks, for decades now.
The fact remains that Mr. Swindell has avoided having his article(s)
published in the Fidonews.
Maybe publication in the Fidonews was never the idea?
The Synchronet wiki is a good read for anything BBS related.
Please do keep up. The issue is not where else has Mr. Swindell
had his article(s) published. Both me and Michiel have noted this.
I am sure others have, too. Especially Mr. Swindell.
Of course it isn't. The article is published where the author published it.
I'm not saying it couldn't or shouldn't be a fidonews article. I'm just
saying it is fine where it is.
It is not fine for a nodelisted Fidonet sysop to have ignored the
entire Fidonet of nodelisted sysops by his own refusal to have had
any of his articles published in the Fidonews.
Refusal? What refusal?
It is an article he published, you are free to look at it any time you (or anyone) wants to do that.
The fact that he chose not to have had any of his own articles
published in the Fidonews is the issue. If he was not a nodelisted
Fidonet sysop this would not be an issue. But he is. As such, it
is most definitely an issue. A real issue.
The real issue, as noted by Michiel, is why has Mr. Swindell chosen
not to have his article(s) published in the Fidonews.
Maybe publication in the Fidonews was never the idea?
He is a notelisted Fidonet sysop. And most definitely aware
of articles published in the Fidonews, and the editor's invitation
to all (sysops and non-sysops alike) to send in articles that can
be published in the Fidonews.
Mr. Swindell has done much, so much to support Fidonet and all FTN
networks, for decades now.
The fact remains that Mr. Swindell has avoided having his article(s)
published in the Fidonews.
Maybe publication in the Fidonews was never the idea?
A very deliberate act, being a nodelisted Fidonet sysop, having
his own articles published elsewhere, critical of how his fellow
sysops in Fidonet run their systems.
That is what Mr. Swindel thinks of Fidonet and how it is run.
The Synchronet wiki is a good read for anything BBS related.
Please do keep up. The issue is not where else has Mr. Swindell
had his article(s) published. Both me and Michiel have noted this.
I am sure others have, too. Especially Mr. Swindell.
Of course it isn't. The article is published where the author publishedit.
Mr. Swindell chose to have his article(s) posted in other places,
never in the Fidonews. That is a fact, not an opinion.
If I write an article, I am the creator of that article. As such,
I own all the rights and can do whatever I want (if anything) with
that article. I might just put it away in a drawer and forget all
about it, aside from letting it collect dust.
Mr. Swindell chose of his own volition to have his article(s)
published in venues other than the Fidonews. That is his business,
not mine or anybody else's.
His reasons as to why may be questionable, or even if he has a reason.
But he is the one who made that choice. Not me. Not you. Nobody
else is to blame other than himself.
I'm not saying it couldn't or shouldn't be a fidonews article. I'm just >>>> saying it is fine where it is.
It is not fine for a nodelisted Fidonet sysop to have ignored the
entire Fidonet of nodelisted sysops by his own refusal to have had
any of his articles published in the Fidonews.
Refusal? What refusal?
Have you been able to find any of his articles published in the
Fidonews? Has anybody else been able to? I certainly haven't.
It is an article he published, you are free to look at it any time you (or >> anyone) wants to do that.
The editor has invited all (including Mr. Swindell) to have their
own articles published in the Fidonews. To date, Mr. Swindell has
refused to do so.
Have you sent in your piece, and had it published in the Fidonews?
I have. And several others have done the same. I might even do it
again, giving everybody here something to talk about. At least for
the next two weeks ...
A very deliberate act, being a nodelisted Fidonet sysop, having
his own articles published elsewhere, critical of how his fellow
sysops in Fidonet run their systems.
A very deliberate act, being a nodelisted Fidonet sysop, having
his own articles published elsewhere, critical of how his fellow
sysops in Fidonet run their systems.
It was deliberate. He posted his thoughts/article at the place of his choosing. There is nothing wrong with that.
This has been kinda funny to read, the chatter about "Mr Swindell" (which
in my head I hearing it with the voice in the Matrix movie "Mr Anderson" (https://youtu.be/XooISvoZ_rs) - made me curious enough to go and read
it...
The real issue, as noted by Michiel, is why has Mr. Swindell chosen
not to have his article(s) published in the Fidonews.
A very deliberate act, being a nodelisted Fidonet sysop, having
his own articles published elsewhere, critical of how his fellow
sysops in Fidonet run their systems.
http://kirin.dcclost.com/~alex/fidonews.png
Mr. Swindell has done much, so much to support Fidonet and all FTN networks, for decades now.
This has been kinda funny to read, the chatter about "Mr Swindell"
(which in my head I hearing it with the voice in the Matrix movie "Mr Anderson" (https://youtu.be/XooISvoZ_rs) - made me curious enough to go and read it...
Alan Ianson wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-
There is no kind of directive that Mr. Swindell or anyone else should submit their atricles to the fidonews. Anyone can do that of course,
and folks are free to do that but their is no requirement.
There is no kind of directive that Mr. Swindell or anyone else should
submit their atricles to the fidonews. Anyone can do that of course,
and folks are free to do that but their is no requirement.
I find it curious that the people complaining about Rob not publishing a wiki page of his on Fidonews have not, themselves, written a Fidonews article in recent history.
The fact that he chose not to have had any of his own articles
published in the Fidonews is the issue. If he was not a nodelisted Fidonet sysop this would not be an issue. But he is. As such, it
is most definitely an issue. A real issue.
There is no kind of directive that Mr. Swindell or anyone else should submit their atricles to the fidonews. Anyone can do that of course, and folks are free to do that but their is no requirement.
Rob is a great guy.
Rob is a great guy.
:-)
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