The pandemia will stop soon for this reason:
Now the virus is being mainly spread by the people who either has
no symptoms, or have mild symptoms. These people is a big
majority. They are ill of COVID19 in easy form, and they are very
contagious.
Well, none of those 8 billion or so people have any immunity to
this coronavirus, so what else can be expected? I mean, this is a
new kid on the block who is not yet finished meeting his playmates.
As soon as this majority becomes well again (it will be soon)
the "firewood" for "virus fire" will disappear. The pandemia will
stop, the mentioned majority will have the immunity against
COVID19.
I am not sure about immunity against COVID-19, which is caused by
the novel coronavirus affecting the world today. I mean, humans
already have four coronaviruses flowing through their systems at it
is, without a vaccine for any of them. A fifth coronavirus will
just be added to the total and the human race will move on from
there.
For a while: old and weak people should be careful and not attend
public places. Self isolation for this weak contingent is the most
right thing. Wait.
I am not sure Vladimir Putin (age 67) or Donald Trump (age 74) will
be able to do that...
We never had this kind of thing when I was coming up. But no one was
committing oral sex back then."
I wonder how old this person is. We certainly had oral sex when I was
young.
He meant to say no-one did it to him... what else could he talk about?
Covid niteen is Chinese for 'bat crazy'
The pandemia will stop soon for this reason:
Now the virus is being mainly spread by the people who either has
no symptoms, or have mild symptoms. These people is a big
majority. They are ill of COVID19 in easy form, and they are very
contagious.
Well, none of those 8 billion or so people have any immunity to
this coronavirus, so what else can be expected? I mean, this is a
new kid on the block who is not yet finished meeting his playmates.
I believe that there can be tens of millions of people who now had or
have had hidden or mild forms of COVID19 illness. Most people recover
from this virus without knowing it.
As soon as this majority becomes well again (it will be soon)
the "firewood" for "virus fire" will disappear. The pandemia will
stop, the mentioned majority will have the immunity against
COVID19.
I am not sure about immunity against COVID-19, which is caused by
the novel coronavirus affecting the world today. I mean, humans
already have four coronaviruses flowing through their systems at it
is, without a vaccine for any of them. A fifth coronavirus will
just be added to the total and the human race will move on from
there.
Well, if people have no symptoms or their illness is/was in relatively mild form it means they have already had some kind of immunity against
the virus and this immunity will becomes only stronger after their recovering.
They will not have an absolute immunity, but they will stopill
to be the main container of the virus in the population. People can't be
with COVID constantly.
For a while: old and weak people should be careful and not attend
public places. Self isolation for this weak contingent is the most
right thing. Wait.
I am not sure Vladimir Putin (age 67) or Donald Trump (age 74) will
be able to do that...
The mortality of old people is about 18%. The main problem for old
people in the US is that many have no medical insurance and they cannot afford themselves to be taken in hospital at early stage. It is easier
for them to die than have deal with American health protection system.
But Putin and Trump certainly will be saved in the case of.
alexander koryagin wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-
I believe that there can be tens of millions of people who now had or
have had hidden or mild forms of COVID19 illness. Most people recover
from this virus without knowing it.
alexander koryagin wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-
I believe that there can be tens of millions of people who now
had or have had hidden or mild forms of COVID19 illness. Most
people recover from this virus without knowing it.
Hopefully we've started building some level of herd immunity.
On 04-10-20 23:43, alexander koryagin wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
They probably should compare statistics of deaths for smokers and nonsmokers, flu-vaccinated and flu-notvaccinated, people with
bronchitis and without it, for antibiotic gobblers etc.
I believe that there can be tens of millions of people who
now had or have had hidden or mild forms of COVID19
illness. Most people recover from this virus without
knowing it.
Hopefully we've started building some level of herd immunity.
alexander koryagin wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-
Hopefully we've started building some level of herd immunity.
Well, if people have no symptoms or their illness is/was in
relatively mild form it means they have already had some kind of
immunity against the virus and this immunity will becomes only
stronger after their recovering.
This is a novel coronavirus, meaning nobody in the entire world has
any immunity. Not a single living soul. Until some are infected,
there can never be anyone who can get any degree of immunity in
such cases.
When new kid on the block arrives, a person's immune system does
not know what to do. So the virus does whatever it wants.
They will not have an absolute immunity, but they will stop to be
the main container of the virus in the population. People can't be
ill with COVID constantly.
Once a person is infected he/she either lives or dies. Since the
virus is highly contagious, the person who is infected must be quarantined. But with limited testing, and so many not even showing symptoms, how can such a contagion possibly be contained?
Herd immunity threshold for the novel coronavirus is estimated at
between 2 and 3 (2.5). That is far lower than other diseases, such
as measles. But still high.
Estimates for the number of people in the USA who will be infected
by the novel coronavirus range between 40 and 80 percent, most of
the models showing closer to 80 percent.
How many of the total number of infected will die remains an open question. But to date, there is no defense.
The health care system in the USA is unable to cope with the
current crisis, and changes must be made. It is also one of the
reasons why a vaccine may never be found. Companies are for profit.
There is no profit to be made by finding a vaccine. So why do it?
Many people have no health insurance. So why treat patients who
cannot pay?
Most people who die from COVID-19 never make it to a hospital.
Nobody seems to be able to figure out why.
Well, if people have no symptoms or their illness is/was in >ak>>relatively mild form it means they have already had some kind of >ak>>immunity against the virus and this immunity will becomes only >ak>>stronger after their recovering.
This is a novel coronavirus, meaning nobody in the entire world has
any immunity. Not a single living soul. Until some are infected,
there can never be anyone who can get any degree of immunity in
such cases.
It easy to see now that the covid death toll in Russia is very low
relatively to the number of infected.
When new kid on the block arrives, a person's immune system does
not know what to do. So the virus does whatever it wants.
They will not have an absolute immunity, but they will stop to be
the main container of the virus in the population. People can't be >ak>>ill with COVID constantly.
Once a person is infected he/she either lives or dies. Since the
virus is highly contagious, the person who is infected must be >LL>quarantined. But with limited testing, and so many not even showing >LL>symptoms, how can such a contagion possibly be contained?
The saving methods are clear - hygiene, keeping safe distance, if you
feel ill wear mask, stay at home and lie in bed, if the hospital is out of
option.
Pneumonia as a complication is a rule a descending coronal illness.
If you are active during the illness (flu etc) the infected ichorous masses
go down deeper into your lungs.
Herd immunity threshold for the novel coronavirus is estimated at >LL>between 2 and 3 (2.5). That is far lower than other diseases, such
as measles. But still high.
Estimates for the number of people in the USA who will be infected
by the novel coronavirus range between 40 and 80 percent, most of
the models showing closer to 80 percent.
How many of the total number of infected will die remains an open >LL>question. But to date, there is no defense.
It is very important to understand who are the people who died. Did they
have chronic illnesses, live in cramped ghetto, kept working or other >activity because they could not afford themselves stay home etc.
The health care system in the USA is unable to cope with the
current crisis, and changes must be made. It is also one of the
reasons why a vaccine may never be found. Companies are for profit. >LL>There is no profit to be made by finding a vaccine. So why do it?
Many people have no health insurance. So why treat patients who
cannot pay?
Most people who die from COVID-19 never make it to a hospital.
Nobody seems to be able to figure out why.
Nevertheless we should understand, that COVID19 virus spreading is not a
magic -- there are clear and definite ways how it infects people.
But there many disinformation. For instance, they say that all people must
wear masks, but in reality only ill people should wear masks -- they
contain their cough and sneezing drops. But the virus is penetrated easily through masks while we breathe.
People with masks feel
deceptively that they are safe in masks, and this fatal mistake is
killing a lot of people.
So again the saving methods - hygiene, don't pick fingers in your nose, >mouth, keep safe distance from each other, if you feel ill wear mask,
stay at home and lie in bed, if the hospital is out of option.
I believe that there can be tens of millions of people who
now had or have had hidden or mild forms of COVID19
illness. Most people recover from this virus without
knowing it.
Hopefully we've started building some level of herd immunity.
Also it would be interesting to find out why the COVID19 death toll has been
so high in some countries while it is much lower in other
countries. There must be a reason for that.
They probably should compare statistics of deaths for smokers and
nonsmokers, flu-vaccinated and flu-notvaccinated, people with bronchitis
and without it, for antibiotic gobblers etc.
Not wearing a mask is suicidal. Since most people want to live,
I would expect those who are sane to wear a mask. At least in
public. Except for Donald Trump, who has publicly stated he
will not wear a mask.
Not wearing a mask is suicidal. Since most people want to live,
I would expect those who are sane to wear a mask. At least in
public. Except for Donald Trump, who has publicly stated he
will not wear a mask.
Big cough drops drop down quickly. In the air there are only micro disperse drops (similar to vapour) and medicine masks are useless
against them.
The infected people without symptoms don't cough and sneeze, and they breathe out only micro disperse drops that go through simple medical
masks freely. It is a false idea that mask prevent such people from infecting others.
Wearing a respirator-mask is a criminal act in the streets if you are infected. Such respirator-masks have a valve that pass out you breath freely (together with big infected drops).
Big cough drops drop down quickly. In the air there are only micro
disperse drops (similar to vapour) and medicine masks are useless
against them.
The novel coronavirus is not thought to be airborne (aerosol). But
nothing is certain. Wearing a cloth mask is thought to offer some
limited protection to those who are not sick, if those who are sick
are wearing such a mask. The idea being that any large droplets
would be caught by those wearing a mask, rather than infecting
those who are not.
Problem is nobody knows who is and is not sick. In which case
everybody (except for Trump) should wear a mask. Or so we have been
told here in the USA.
A funny story was shown in the news. In some hospital the medics keep a
habit to applaud to the patient when he had recovered from covid19 and
he is leaving the hospital. But all the medics and that recovered
patient were wearing masks during that applause. It shows well how much
we can believe them. ;=)
PS: But anyway it is well known that medical masks save only from snotty
and coughing people... if they wear them.
PS: But anyway it is well known that medical masks save onlyYou can't always predict when a sudden cough or sneeze may
from snotty and coughing people... if they wear them.
arise.
As I told before, healthy people don't cough and sneeze. As well as infected people without symptoms, who are the main virus conductor.
They emit virus with masks or without them.
All the world practice shows that if the medics worked (with infected people) wearing simple medical masks -- they have been infected very
often -- the best proof of the mask uselessness. A usual medical mask
don't save from the covid19 contamination. Such masks should be worn
only by sick people with cough and sneeze.
As I told before, healthy people don't cough and sneeze. AsIt's amazing how people who 2 months ago were leading experts
well as infected people without symptoms, who are the main
virus conductor. They emit virus with masks or without them.
All the world practice shows that if the medics worked
(with infected people) wearing simple medical masks -- they
have been infected very often -- the best proof of the mask
uselessness. A usual medical mask don't save from the
covid19 contamination. Such masks should be worn only by
sick people with cough and sneeze.
on CO2 emissions, are now leading experts on virus
contamination and fighting.
A lot of information about masks and respirators, hygiene etc now
available to all people. If it had been so 2 month ago many people could
be saved.
Big cough drops drop down quickly. In the air there are only micro
disperse drops (similar to vapour) and medicine masks are useless
against them.
The novel coronavirus is not thought to be airborne (aerosol). But
nothing is certain. Wearing a cloth mask is thought to offer some
limited protection to those who are not sick, if those who are sick
are wearing such a mask. The idea being that any large droplets
would be caught by those wearing a mask, rather than infecting
those who are not.
Problem is nobody knows who is and is not sick. In which case
everybody (except for Trump) should wear a mask. Or so we have been
told here in the USA.
A funny story was shown in the news. In some hospital the medics keep a habit to applaud to the patient when he had recovered from covid19 and
he is leaving the hospital. But all the medics and that recovered
patient were wearing masks during that applause. It shows well how much
we can believe them. ;=)
PS: But anyway it is well known that medical masks save only from snottyand
coughing people... if they wear them.
Big cough drops drop down quickly. In the air there are only
micro disperse drops (similar to vapour) and medicine masks are
useless against them.
The novel coronavirus is not thought to be airborne (aerosol).
But nothing is certain. Wearing a cloth mask is thought to offer
some limited protection to those who are not sick, if those who
are sick are wearing such a mask. The idea being that any large
droplets would be caught by those wearing a mask, rather than
infecting those who are not.
Problem is nobody knows who is and is not sick. In which case
everybody (except for Trump) should wear a mask. Or so we have
been told here in the USA.
A funny story was shown in the news. In some hospital the medics
keep a habit to applaud to the patient when he had recovered from
covid19 and he is leaving the hospital. But all the medics and
that recovered patient were wearing masks during that applause. It
shows well how much we can believe them. ;=)
There is so much uncertainty about this virus that nobody seems to
know what they are talking about.
PS: But anyway it is well known that medical masks save only from
snotty and coughing people... if they wear them.
That is what the CDC and health professionals have been telling
everybody. But since so few in this country have been tested, the recommendation is for everybody to wear a mask in public. Better to
be safe than sorry approach.
So what do politicians do? Open the beaches and let everybody play outside. Even with a stay at home lockdown order in place.
Now somebody tell me that makes sense.
... So if the medics are sure that they have cured the patient they
could demonstrate it by speaking with the patient without masks. But
they are not sure probably.
In a hospital, the patients usually do not mingle with other people,
but the doctors *do*. So, if patient is virus-free, the doctors may contact another bug from another patient, then the doctor goes back
to first patient.. oops.
It is .: better to take precautions: wear masks.
... So if the medics are sure that they have cured the patient
they could demonstrate it by speaking with the patient without
masks. But they are not sure probably.
In a hospital, the patients usually do not mingle with other
people, but the doctors *do*. So, if patient is virus-free, the
doctors may contact another bug from another patient, then the
doctor goes back to first patient.. oops.
It is.: better to take precautions: wear masks.
It is .: better to take precautions: wear masks.Plus that these masks are scarse and may not be reused. When
the doctor or nurse takes off the mask, it has to be disposed.
To go back to the other patients, he/she needs a new mask. Of
which there is a shortage. Another reason to keep the mask on for the short ceremony of seeing the cured patient off.
In the hospital there are clean and dirty area. In the clean area they
can go without masks, eat, drink etc. I believe that was the clean area.
;-)
In the hospital there are clean and dirty area. In the clean area
they can go without masks, eat, drink etc. I believe that was the
clean area. ;-)
I don't know if you've ever had to stay in a hospital, but
designated areas are just controlled by simple signs on a wall or a sticker on the floor. It doesn't stop anyone to compromise those expectations.
When a person is first admitted, they are often just placed in a
large room that has separate bay areas that are only divided my
curtains. The "fresh" incoming person can end up staying in that
open area for several hours.
The ventalation system of hospitals are not isolated into
clean/dirty areas. The same air goes everywhere.
People going in for routine things like a cast, basic first aid, or
other seemingly benign things, can come out sicker with something
totally unrelated.
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