Hello Everybody,

Mel Brooks had it right so many years ago.
It really is "Springtime for Hitler" ... only
in Sweden rather than in Germany or the USA.

Ulf Kristersson: Swedish parliament elects new PM backed by far right

Source: BBC

PM Ulf Kristersson's Moderates will form a centre-right coalition with
the Christian Democrats and the Liberals.

But it will govern with support from the Sweden Democrats (SD), who won
a fifth of votes in recent polls.

Tougher immigration policies and greater police powers are part of a
policy deal with the SD.

....

The SD was founded by Nazi sympathisers and had been shunned by the
mainstream for decades.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63289903

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Ulf Kristersson: Swedish parliament elects new PM backed by far right

So what's wrong with that?

Would it be so much more fun if it were backed by the far left?.

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But it will govern with support from the Sweden Democrats (SD), who won
a fifth of votes in recent polls.

No worries, Lee. This is not the USA, a party with just one fifth of the seats in the parliament can never get any laws of their own passed against the will of the rest of the house.

It's time you start worrying about what will happen if the MAGA idiots over there will gain seats in *your* parliaments -- federal, but more importantly state. It's just two weeks left now...


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Hello Ward,

Ulf Kristersson: Swedish parliament elects new PM backed by far right

So what's wrong with that?

The New Nazis are IN, and are now being noticed by all -

"Sweden in the north, Italy in the south: Left-wing governments
are so yesterday."
~ Beatrix von Storch tweet (leading member of the Alternative
for Germany party)

Would it be so much more fun if it were backed by the far left?.

Red Brigades in Italy would love it.

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Hello Bj�rn,

But it will govern with support from the Sweden Democrats (SD), who won
a fifth of votes in recent polls.

No worries, Lee. This is not the USA, a party with just one fifth of the
seats in the parliament can never get any laws of their own passed against the will of the rest of the house.

That is only the beginning. With time, that small minority will
become a huge majority. A majority that can never be stopped ...

It's time you start worrying about what will happen if the MAGA idiots over there will gain seats in *your* parliaments -- federal, but more importantly state. It's just two weeks left now...

Worry? Me, worry?

Oh, at the state level I still have one year of freedom left. The
MAGA idiots have two/thirds majority control both houses of the state legislature at present, but not the governor's mansion. That changes
next year as their only opposition leaves due to term limits.

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That is only the beginning. With time, that small minority will
become a huge majority. A majority that can never be stopped ...

Fear not, we still remember Nazi Germany -- after all we were close neighbours. And if that should be forgotten, we now have Putin and his Ruscists to remind us.


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you've managed to forget that you'd be speaking German right now
if it wasn't for the USA.

And you, dear Sir, probably don't even know that it was *not* the US military that saved the world, it was the US women, that kept the production of war materiel up until the very end.

And now you MAGA idiots are doing your best to thank your women by first taking away their right to their own bodies, and with your America First movement even take away their right to vote.

How civilized of you. Without the German scientists you'd be speaking Japanese right now.


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On 19 Oct 22 15:32:09, Bj*Rn Felten said the following to Dan Clough:

And now you MAGA idiots are doing your best to thank your women by first taking away their right to their own bodies, and with your America First movement even take away their right to vote.

Googling Sweden's rape statistics returns many pages of results. Whether its a problem or not its still a hotbed topic. Therefore Sweden has a rape problem.

Before you hit the Reply key, remember how often you used and advocated for this asenine logic many dozens of times here since 9/11 to push your agenda.

You are in no position to lecture anyone on women or anything beyond Abba.

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Googling Sweden's rape statistics returns many pages of results. Whether its a problem or not its still a hotbed topic. Therefore Sweden has a
rape problem.

Swedish women are probably the most emancipated and self-conscious in the world. To have sex over there, and not to get into trouble unintentionally, it's best to have a written contract.

Because of their self-confidence and their assertiveness you just don't mess with Swedish women or you might find yourself in the wrong bench during criminal court proceedings.

Because of my years long international work I've encountered several Swedish women and you simply don't mess with them.

Widely differing legal systems, offence definitions, terminological variations, recording practices and statistical conventions makes any cross-national comparison on rape statistics difficult if not impossible.

You are in no position to lecture anyone on women or anything beyond
Abba.

You do know that one of the girls is the illegitimate daughter of a Nazi, right?

Russia has now banned ABBA-music.

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Hi Dan,

Well, you've managed to forget that you'd be speaking German right now
if it wasn't for the USA. At least you got to keep your
commie-tendencies. It is a little strange as to how/why you hate the
USA so much, since you owe them so much.

Not again ... it's amazing what a small part is reserved for history in your high-school system.

In the European theater the war had already been decided by the Battle of Britain which ended October 31st 1940. At that moment no further advances occured in the west and it was going to be another 14 months before Pearl Harbor happened.

At that point the Battle of the Atlantic also already had ended with Nazi Germany losing about half of its capital ships fleet early in the war (Graf Spe, Blucher, Bismarck) with Gneisenau out of commission for good.

In the east there was the Battle of Stalingrad which was the decisive battle in WW2, not Operation Overlord. Without Stalingrad Operation Overlord would not have happened because Nazi Germany was forced to withdraw troops from the west sending them to the east thereby weakening coastal defences.

Germany after Stalingrad was on a one-way trip to defeat ... something the USSR never was given enough credit for by Hollywood. The US's entry into the war just made it a different kind of defeat.

Plus there was Alan Turing ...

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Bj�rn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

you've managed to forget that you'd be speaking German right now
if it wasn't for the USA.

And you, dear Sir, probably don't even know that it was *not*
the US military that saved the world, it was the US women, that
kept the production of war materiel up until the very end.

Your first wrong assumption. I know very well the role that US women
played in the war. Not even sure why you would think I wouldn't know
that. But I guess you're really that stupid.

And now you MAGA idiots are doing your best to thank your
women by first taking away their right to their own bodies, and
with your America First movement even take away their right to
vote.

Second wrong assumption that I'm a "MAGA idiot". What made you think
such a thing? Your second two statements are also wrong, especially
that last one. You really had to reach up deep into your ass to pull
that one out.

How civilized of you. Without the German scientists you'd be
speaking Japanese right now.

Oh, yes, I realize the contribution that German scientists (who came to
the US by their own choice) made to the US war efforts. Yet another
stupid assumption by you. It's the only thing you're good at. You're
also wrong about the "speaking Japanese" thing, which shows your utter
lack of knowledge about the subject. The only thing the two A-bombs did
was hasten the end of the war (and save many lives), as it was just a
matter of time until we overran Japan. We were very close to doing just
that when the bombs were dropped.

Go back and study up on things a little; your lack of education is
glaringly bright.


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Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Well, you've managed to forget that you'd be speaking German right now
if it wasn't for the USA. At least you got to keep your commie-tendencies. It is a little strange as to how/why you hate the
USA so much, since you owe them so much.

Not again ... it's amazing what a small part is reserved for
history in your high-school system.

<SNIP bullshit>

I can assure you that I'm educated far beyond the "high-school system". You're as bad as your pal Beeeorn at making stupid assumptions.

I see that your Euro-commie brain-washing is very similar to the US
Leftists tendencies/attempts to re-write history by making stupid,
false, ignorant statements. Sorry, not gonna work. I won't even quote/respond to such bullshit.



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On 19 Oct 22 16:47:00, Dan Clough said the following to Ward Dossche:

I can assure you that I'm educated far beyond the "high-school system". You're as bad as your pal Beeeorn at making stupid assumptions.

I feel that we will soon all be reminded of the imperfections of the American education system, the judicial system, healthcare and how 9/11 was deserved. Give it a few more replies in, its bound to happen.

There was a time here when America sucked because of "sitcom canned laughter".

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On 19 Oct 22 21:06:09, Ward Dossche said the following to Nick Andre:

You do know that one of the girls is the illegitimate daughter of a Nazi, right?

The blonde? Yeah I figured she'd be into "German things" in the sack.

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I see that your Euro-commie brain-washing is very similar to the US Leftists tendencies/attempts to re-write history by making stupid,
false, ignorant statements. Sorry, not gonna work. I won't even quote/respond to such bullshit.

Actually, what I mentioned is accepted by history scholars as perfectly correct.

It cannot be denied that the Battle of Britain had already been concluded 14 months prior to Pearl Harbour, that the Battle for Stalingrad was the major turning point for the front in eastern Europe and that the troops of Nazi Germany were already running in a general westernly direction. Just as it cannot be denied that the Kriegsmarine had already been reduced to less than half its combat readyness by unfortunate events during the first operational sorties of Graf Spe, Bismarck and Blucher.

See ... I can write full sentences, make a point, not just one-liners and still not insult someone...

Take care,

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You do know that one of the girls is the illegitimate daughter of a NA>WD> Nazi, right?

The blonde? Yeah I figured she'd be into "German things" in the sack.

Nope ... the other one ...

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On 20 Oct 22 00:56:50, Ward Dossche said the following to Nick Andre:

You do know that one of the girls is the illegitimate daughter of a NA>WD> Nazi, right?

The blonde? Yeah I figured she'd be into "German things" in the sack.

Nope ... the other one ...

Ewwwwww... more foulness on her ass than a Swedish bicycle seat.

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Nope ... the other one ...

Ewwwwww... more foulness on her ass than a Swedish bicycle seat.

When they start moving it's like poetry for the eyes ...

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Nick Andre wrote to Dan Clough <=-

On 19 Oct 22 16:47:00, Dan Clough said the following to Ward
Dossche:

I can assure you that I'm educated far beyond the "high-school system". You're as bad as your pal Beeeorn at making stupid assumptions.

I feel that we will soon all be reminded of the imperfections of
the American education system, the judicial system, healthcare
and how 9/11 was deserved. Give it a few more replies in, its
bound to happen.

Yes, no doubt. What I see changing is that I have more and more
difficulty predicting whether it will come from Beeeorn or Ward.

There was a time here when America sucked because of "sitcom
canned laughter".

Well, when your only goal is to find some kind of fault with America,
that's as good a reason as any.



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Hi Dan,

Well, you've managed to forget that you'd be speaking German right now if it wasn't for the
USA. At least you got to keep your commie-tendencies. It is a little strange as to how/why
you hate the USA so much, since you owe them so much.

Not again ... it's amazing what a small part is reserved for history in your high-school
system. In the European theater the war had already been decided by the Battle of Britain
which ended October 31st 1940. At that moment no further advances occured in the west and it
was going to be another 14 months before Pearl Harbor happened. At that point the Battle of
the Atlantic also already had ended with Nazi Germany losing about half of its capital ships
fleet early in the war (Graf Spe, Blucher, Bismarck) with Gneisenau out of commission for
good. In the east there was the Battle of Stalingrad which was the decisive battle in WW2, not
Operation Overlord. Without Stalingrad Operation Overlord would not have happened because Nazi
Germany was forced to withdraw troops from the west sending them to the east thereby weakening
coastal defences. Germany after Stalingrad was on a one-way trip to defeat ... something the
USSR never was given enough credit for by Hollywood. The US's entry into the war just made it
a different kind of defeat.

Germans should especially "love" the USA. For the massive bombing of Western cities, in which there were practically no military - exclusively civilians. Ah, Dresden... There was great destruction and casualties only in Hiroshima...

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���ண� �६�窠, Ward Dossche.
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Googling Sweden's rape statistics returns many pages of results. Whether its a problem or not
its still a hotbed topic. Therefore Sweden has a rape problem.

Swedish women are probably the most emancipated and self-conscious in the world. To have sex
over there, and not to get into trouble unintentionally, it's best to have a written contract.
Because of their self-confidence and their assertiveness you just don't mess with Swedish
women or you might find yourself in the wrong bench during criminal court proceedings. Because
of my years long international work I've encountered several Swedish women and you simply
don't mess with them. Widely differing legal systems, offence definitions, terminological
variations, recording practices and statistical conventions makes any cross-national
comparison on rape statistics difficult if not impossible.

You are in no position to lecture anyone on women or anything beyond Abba.

You do know that one of the girls is the illegitimate daughter of a Nazi, right? Russia has
now banned ABBA-music.

And how is this, excuse me? Today I only listened to it on the radio in the car.
It was easier to ban it under the USSR, but officially albums were released.

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Hello Dan,

On Wednesday October 19 2022 07:46, you wrote to Bj�rn Felten:

Well, you've managed to forget that you'd be speaking German right now
if it wasn't for the USA.

I /DO/ speak German. If you stopped anything regarding me speaking German - which is doubtfull - it was me learning it the easy way: from my mother. Now I had to learn it the hard way; in school. Learning German in school is very difficult with all these cases and inflections. I never really got it. Thanks to you...


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I never knew sex was a crime in Sweden.

This was about rape. I know that in most countries a "no" from a woman really means "yes please". But not in Sweden. Try to rape a Swedish girl and all hell will come down upon you. Our phones are open 24/7 if you want to report a violation of our girl's freedom to choose with whom they have intercourse with.

That is the single most important reason why *reported* rapes are as high as it is in Sweden. BOC, men with erectile problems will never want to hear anything about it. "A fuck is a fuck, leave it with that."


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Dan Clough -> Bj�rn Felten skrev 2022-10-19 23:43:

Oh, yes, I realize the contribution that German scientists (who came to the US by their own choice) made to the US war efforts.

Oh, yes, those German scientists "technically" came by their own choice.

The two choices 1600 German scientists had between going with the secret US Operation Paperclip, without even the Allied leaders, or of course the US people, being informed anything about it, and, the other choice: going to N�rnberg, standing trial for all the war crimes they'd committed.



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Bj�rn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Dan Clough -> Bj�rn Felten skrev 2022-10-19 23:43:

Oh, yes, I realize the contribution that German scientists (who came to the US by their own choice) made to the US war efforts.

Oh, yes, those German scientists "technically" came by their
own choice.

The two choices 1600 German scientists had between going with
the secret US Operation Paperclip, without even the Allied
leaders, or of course the US people, being informed anything
about it, and, the other choice: going to N�rnberg, standing
trial for all the war crimes they'd committed.

Once again, you try to confuse the issue, and speak about apples vs
oranges... I'm not surprised.

Operation Paperclip was done *AFTER* the war (we were talking about WW2,
just in case you forgot). It's goal was to benefit the USA in regards
to the "cold war" with the USSR, and overall military/commercial
technical endeavors (such as the "space race").

Many other countries (especially the USSR) did exactly the same thing.
Only a handful (fewer than 5) of the Germans who came to the US were
ever accused/tried of any wartime crimes. I don't think ANY were ever convicted of anything.

My original comment above about the Germans helping the US's war efforts
was in regards to the development of the A-bombs used to end the war
with Japan, and you knew that perfectly well.

There. Your blatant attempt to exaggerate and lie is exposed for all to
see. You failed in your "smear attempt", as usual. <YAWN>


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Operation Paperclip was done *AFTER* the war (we were talking about WW2, just in case you forgot).

And *you* seem to forget that the war in Europe ended three months before that in the Pacific? Even two months before the first atomic bomb (Trinity) first proved to work? And how many months before May 1945 do you think German scientists started moving west?

Most of all, you perfectly well demonstrate what a shallow take on history you are getting. You are in dire need of studying up on German as well as Japanese nuclear development during WWII. Like e.g. something about the leading figure in the Japanese atomic program, Dr. Yoshio Nishina, a close associate of Niels Bohr and a contemporary of Albert Einstein.

No, sir, I think we can all be thankful that the Germans as well as the Japanese ran out of fuel, troops and other supplies just in the nick of time. BOC, you will never want to hear anything about *that*, right...?


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Hello Bj�rn,

I never knew sex was a crime in Sweden.

This was about rape.

Rape is a crime of violence. Sex is an act of love.

I know that in most countries a "no" from a woman really means "yes please".
But not in Sweden.

A "no" is a "no" is a "no" - in every language and in every country.

Try to rape a Swedish girl and all hell will come down upon you.

The two Swedish gals I knew back in college days made sure of that.
Both knew how to handle themselves, and never had a real problem.
Problem is, in this country many women choose not to even report an
incident, and rapists go on to rape others without ever getting
caught.

Our phones are open 24/7 if you want to report a violation of our girl's freedom to choose with whom they have intercourse with.

Victims often never recover, and have little support from society,
or in many cases their own family. We have a former president who
regards women as being nothing more than playthings, and has been
accused by many of being a rapist. But he will never be charged
or prosecuted for any crime. And the women he had fun with will
never receive a single red cent in damages ...

That is the single most important reason why *reported* rapes are as high as
it is in Sweden. BOC, men with erectile problems will never want to hear anything about it. "A fuck is a fuck, leave it with that."

Now we know Trump's alibi. Thanks for telling. :)

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Hello Bj�rn,

Oh, yes, I realize the contribution that German scientists (who came to
the US by their own choice) made to the US war efforts.

Oh, yes, those German scientists "technically" came by their own choice.

Of course they did. Everybody loves America.

The two choices 1600 German scientists had between going with the secret
US Operation Paperclip, without even the Allied leaders, or of course the US people, being informed anything about it, and, the other choice: going to N�rnberg, standing trial for all the war crimes they'd committed.

And given very lenient sentences.

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