On 09-17-22 09:46, Matt Munson <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Make Sweden Safe Agai <=-

If refugees stopped raping women, then maybe that party
would not of made those gains. 58% of men who rape women in
Sweden are foreign born.

A statement such as that (58% ...) is meaningless without any sort of comparitive data. E.g. What % of men in Sweden are foreign born?

Not to mention that such a claim needs to be supported by giving a
source.

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On 09-20-22 19:03, Matt Munson <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Make Sweden Safe Aga <=-

If refugees stopped raping women, then maybe that party
would not of made those gains. 58% of men who rape women in
Sweden are foreign born.

Sweden's national broadcaster SVT quoted that statistic around 2018. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45269764 as mentioned in a BBC story.

I read that story. The 58% number is based on convictions, not reported
rapes (for which there was no data quoted). Later on, the article gives
some raw numbers which confuse things a bit. It says 843 over a period
of five years, but 160,000 migrants in one year. On the hold, the
article is muddled without making a clear point.

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On the hold, the
article is muddled without making a clear point.

Of course it is. This is a report on BBS of a program that was aired on SVT (the Swedish public service channel) made by an "independent" producer. It was after it was aired judged as being totally inappropriate and not factual. Alas, that's freedom of speech for you, our state TV does not censor anything.

One can of course ask, why BBC did not have a Swedish speaking reporter in Sweden, one who actually understood what was said in the program in question.

But even in the BBC article, if you care to pass the eye-catching headline, it says:

"We are very clear in the programme that it is a small percentage of the people coming from abroad who are convicted of rape," chief editor Ulf Johansson told the BBC."

Add to that, that we in Sweden take it very seriously when it comes to our women's rights. It's far more easy and secure to report a rape here. No humiliating police, and later on court, procedures like in most other countries. And the legal definition of rape is much, much lower than in most other countries, so of course Sweden is the "capital of rape in the world".

Remember Julian Assange? He was convicted of rape after having consesual sex with two groupies, but using a broken condom. Not our brightest moment, but some collateral damage is accepted it it helps our lovely Vackra Svenska Flicka feel safe.



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