• Ukrainian aviation news

    From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to All on Fri Feb 25 08:59:12 2022
    There's Ukrainian aviation news available in the AVIATION echo

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Sat Feb 26 09:51:46 2022
    Hello Ward,

    There's Ukrainian aviation news available in the AVIATION echo

    All aircraft have been grounded. The ghost of Kyiv rules the air.

    --Lee

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    Travel should take you places

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Feb 26 10:26:42 2022
    There's Ukrainian aviation news available in the AVIATION echo

    All aircraft have been grounded. The ghost of Kyiv rules the air.

    * Britain banning all Russian air traffic from its airspace, no more flights
    into Heathrow and Manchester.
    In retaliation Russia has banned all overflight rights for Britain but is
    not going to impact operations a lot as current day modern airliners
    (meaning not the Russian produced ones) have enough endurance to make the
    trip in one go not overflying Russia. A lot of companies were doing that
    already.

    * Poland and Czechia closing its airspace for Russian aviation

    * Delta Airlines suspended its codeshare with Aeroflot out of Los Angeles and
    New York

    * Aeroflot kicked out of the SkyTean alliance

    * Manchester United cancelled its sponsor deal with Aeroflot

    * KLM & Air France reducing flights to Moscow to just one (in order not to
    lose overflight rights)

    Further to that the International Olympic Committee urged all associated sports federations to cancel all sports activities on Russian soil.

    Chelsea and Schalke 04 are canceling their Gazprom sponsorship deals.

    The final of the Champions League is moved from St.Petersgurg to Paris

    Refusal for the Russian football team to participate in UEFA and FIFA competitions is being discussed

    Russia excluded from Eurosong ...

    Silly as some may seem, they are important stingers and a message which will be noticed by the ordinary Russians burdened with a shitload of propagande ...

    Russia has become the largest rogue state in the world ever due to its leadership, not the citizenry.

    For two days now I've been unable to wrap my mind around this ...

    \%/@rd

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Sat Feb 26 19:10:18 2022
    Hello Ward,

    There's Ukrainian aviation news available in the AVIATION echo

    All aircraft have been grounded. The ghost of Kyiv rules the air.

    * Britain banning all Russian air traffic from its airspace, no more flights
    into Heathrow and Manchester.

    Russia's #1 ranked tennis player in the world will miss Wimbledon.
    Putin won't mind, since he does not play tennis and that tennis player
    does not like war.

    In retaliation Russia has banned all overflight rights for Britain but is
    not going to impact operations a lot as current day modern airliners
    (meaning not the Russian produced ones) have enough endurance to make the
    trip in one go not overflying Russia. A lot of companies were doing that
    already.

    Getting from Britain to NZ can always be done via the Arctic route
    by flying over the North Pole. You do realize the Earth is Flat.

    * Poland and Czechia closing its airspace for Russian aviation

    Sanctions have also been placed on Belarus. So flying over Russia
    would be next to impossible anyway.

    * Delta Airlines suspended its codeshare with Aeroflot out of Los Angeles and
    New York

    It is going to be a long swim for Russians to get back home.

    * Aeroflot kicked out of the SkyTean alliance

    Why should that matter to anyone?

    * Manchester United cancelled its sponsor deal with Aeroflot

    Sponsors can be replaced.

    * KLM & Air France reducing flights to Moscow to just one (in order not to
    lose overflight rights)

    Putin is a deeply paranoid individual, and sometimes needs reasurance
    from French president Macron.

    Further to that the International Olympic Committee urged all associated sports federations to cancel all sports activities on Russian soil.

    But not FIFA qualifying matches held in Russia.

    Chelsea and Schalke 04 are canceling their Gazprom sponsorship deals.

    It is going to take more than that to keep Putin from going off the
    rails.

    The final of the Champions League is moved from St.Petersgurg to Paris

    And yet the president of France is still allowed to travel to Moscow,
    on Air France? Putin is playing nice ...

    Refusal for the Russian football team to participate in UEFA and FIFA competitions is being discussed

    Poland and Sweden are refusing to play their qualifying matches
    against Russia. Including a match scheduled to be played in Russia.
    To date, FIFA has done nothing to disallow the Russian team from
    competing, or from cities in Russia hosting qualifying matches.

    Russia excluded from Eurosong ...

    Russians who sing songs of protest against the war are being
    arrested and sent to gulags.

    Silly as some may seem, they are important stingers and a message which will
    be noticed by the ordinary Russians burdened with a shitload of propagande

    State-owned media informs Russians what Putin wants them to know.
    With no free press, ordinary Russians are unable to know what is truly
    going on in the world. Even social media is controlled, or limited.
    And yet, many Russians do find out what is happening. And are being
    arrested and jailed. Some being sent to faraway places, never to be
    seen or heard from again.

    Russia has become the largest rogue state in the world ever due to its leadership, not the citizenry.

    Russia is moving towards being a full-fledged dictatorship. If it
    has not reached that point already. The people of Russia are victims,
    and can do nothing to change this.

    For two days now I've been unable to wrap my mind around this ...

    Poland and Sweden refusing to play Russia in FIFA playoff qualifiers.
    And to think FIFA is allowing such qualifying matches to even be held
    in Russia.

    With the main event coming up this November, maybe FIFA should just
    invite Russia by default. And then Russia will claim victory as no
    other country's team will take the field to play.

    --Lee

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    Say it loud! Say it clear! / Refugees are welcome here!

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Sun Feb 27 05:32:56 2022
    Silly as some may seem, they are important stingers and a message which will be noticed by the ordinary Russians burdened with a shitload of propagande ...

    Let's not forget that ESA has put a halt to further launches of Russian Soyuz ST rockets from French Guiana, which will severely cripple Russia's space program.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_at_the_Guiana_Space_Centre




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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Björn Felten on Sun Feb 27 09:11:16 2022
    Silly as some may seem, they are important stingers and a message
    which
    will be noticed by the ordinary Russians burdened with a shitload of BF>WD> propagande ...

    Let's not forget that ESA has put a halt to further launches of
    Russian Soyuz ST rockets from French Guiana, which will severely cripple Russia's space program.

    Plus the threat of making the ISS crash, coupled to the hardly veiled nuclear threat ... man ... probably tomorrow I will wake up and nothing will have happened, Kennedy was not murdered, there never was a Berlin Wall, no 9/11, no Taliban ... all a bad dream ...

    And in the meantime the population in Afghanistan is still starving ...

    \%/@rd

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Feb 28 15:13:04 2022
    On 26/02/2022 18:51, Lee Lofaso : Ward Dossche wrote:
    Hello Ward,

     WD>> There's Ukrainian aviation news available in the AVIATION echo

    All aircraft have been grounded. The ghost of Kyiv rules the air.

    Fake news!

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    Regards
    David

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