This is incredible. The Russian people actually have the opportunity to remove Putin and his corrupt gang from power. And then Google and Apple caves in to pressure from the Putin gang and removes the very "Smart Voting" app that would help Russia in their attempt to get a Putin-free country.

What a shameful action from those two multibillion companies. :(

https://tinyurl.com/sdx6yb9j

If any of our Russian friends have already downloaded the Android app, can you please send it to me, and I'll be happy to put it on my two servers.


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Björn wrote (2021-09-18):

This is incredible. The Russian people actually have the opportunity to remove Putin and his corrupt gang from power. And then Google and Apple caves in to pressure from the Putin gang and removes the very "Smart Voting" app that would help Russia in their attempt to get a Putin-free country.

What a shameful action from those two multibillion companies. :(

According to the NYT article individuals/employees of Google were threatened in Russia. What would you do? Throw your people under the bus? For what? Putin has been elected again and again and again and again ...

https://tinyurl.com/sdx6yb9j

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Never understood the benefits of short link services, if your not on twitter: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/world/europe/russia-navalny-app-election..html

If any of our Russian friends have already downloaded the Android
app, can you please send it to me, and I'll be happy to put it on my two servers.

Great opportunity for sideloading some malware / spy app that pretends to be a voting app (and let you vote for the wrong candidate) ;-)

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If any of our Russian friends have already downloaded the Android app,
can you please send it to me, and I'll be happy to put it on my two servers.

I will gladly also make it available ...

\%/@rd

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What would you do?

If I were CEO of Apple or Google, I would withdraw all personnel in Russia ASAP and then cut all connections to a Putin controlled Russia.



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What would you do?

If I were CEO of Apple or Google, I would withdraw all personnel in
Russia ASAP and then cut all connections to a Putin controlled Russia.

100%

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Hello Ward Dossche!

** On Sunday 19.09.21 - 00:40, Ward Dossche wrote to Björn Felten:

What would you do?

If I were CEO of Apple or Google, I would withdraw all personnel in
Russia ASAP and then cut all connections to a Putin controlled Russia.

100%

It's not just the Apple and Google affected.

"RKN issued a sternly-worded warning to firms including Apple
and Google, as well as VPN providers Cloudflare and Cisco, in
the lead up to the elections.

"Authorities say that the companies are helping Russians access
banned content in spite of orders to the contrary. Navalny's
campaign operations were branded 'extremist' and effectively
prohibited by a court earlier this year, and officials say that
'Smart Voting' is an extension of those activities.

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On 18/09/2021 23:10, Ward Dossche : Bj�rn Felten wrote:

If any of our Russian friends have already downloaded the Android app,
can you please send it to me, and I'll be happy to put it on my two
servers.

I will gladly also make it available ...

You two are not trying to influence foreign elections are you? The USAians will hang, draw and quarter you if you do that.

Then again, that might be only if it is USA elections - carry on.


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On 09-18-21 13:38, Bj”rn Felten <=-
spoke to All about The Russian election <=-

This is incredible. The Russian people actually have the
opportunity to remove Putin and his corrupt gang from
power. And then Google and Apple caves in to pressure from
the Putin gang and removes the very "Smart Voting" app that
would help Russia in their attempt to get a Putin-free
country.

What a shameful action from those two multibillion companies. :(

https://tinyurl.com/sdx6yb9j

If any of our Russian friends have already downloaded the Android
app, can you please send it to me, and I'll be happy to put it on my
two servers.

Good for you -- let us know if you are successful.

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)


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Hello Oli!

On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 at 18:10 +0100, you wrote to Bjoern Felten:

According to the NYT article individuals/employees of Google were threatened in Russia. What would you do? Throw your people under the
bus? For what? Putin has been elected again and again and again and
again ...

Close russian offices and offer employees relocation to US offices.


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Hello August!

On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 at 21:12 -0400, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

It's not just the Apple and Google affected.

"RKN issued a sternly-worded warning to firms including Apple
and Google, as well as VPN providers Cloudflare and Cisco, in
the lead up to the elections.

RKN can issue any amount of warnings they want but they will never go ahead and block Google or Apple. It was just a bluff and both companies fell for it.


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Hello Björn,

This is incredible. The Russian people actually have the opportunity to remove Putin and his corrupt gang from power. And then Google and Apple caves in to pressure from the Putin gang and removes the very "Smart Voting" app that would help Russia in their attempt to get a Putin-free country.

What a shameful action from those two multibillion companies. :(

Yes. It is. Let's hear it from what a Russian poet had to say
about the matter, written in November 1823 -

"BEHOLD A SOWER WENT FORTH TO SOW"
~ by Alexander Pushkin

With freedom's seed the desert sowing,
I walked before the morning star;
From pure and guiltless fingers throwing—
Where slavish plows had left a scar—
The fecund seed, the procreator;
Oh vain and sad disseminator,
I learned then what lost labors are. . . .
Graze if you will, you peaceful nations,
Who never rouse at honor's horn!
Should flocks heed freedom's invocations?
Their part is to be slain or shorn,
Their dower the yoke their sires have worn
Through snug and sheepish generations.

https://tinyurl.com/sdx6yb9j

Voting is a very violent act. The most violent act
a people who live or hope to live in a free society
can make/hope to make.

If any of our Russian friends have already downloaded the Android app, can you please send it to me, and I'll be happy to put it on my two servers.

Recruiting Pussy Riot to become stars in Fidonet.
What a novel idea.
I like it!

--Lee

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Hello, Alexey Fayans.
On 9/19/21 12:11 PM you wrote:

According to the NYT article individuals/employees of Google were
threatened in Russia. What would you do? Throw your people under
the bus? For what? Putin has been elected again and again and
again and again ...

Close russian offices and offer employees relocation to US
offices.

So people have to leave their families, move halfway around the world, and fight with the American green card system? I'm not sure that's any better...


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Hello Mike!

On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 21:19, you wrote to me:

According to the NYT article individuals/employees of Google
were threatened in Russia. What would you do? Throw your people
under the bus? For what? Putin has been elected again and again
and again and again ...

Close russian offices and offer employees relocation to US
offices.

So people have to leave their families, move halfway around the world,
and fight with the American green card system? I'm not sure that's any better...

They don't have to accept the offer. But I am quite sure most employees would accept it.


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Hi, Bj?rn Felten!
I read your message from 18.09.2021 14:38

This is incredible. The Russian people actually have the
opportunity to remove Putin and his corrupt gang from power.
And then Google and Apple caves in to pressure from the Putin
gang and removes the very "Smart Voting" app that would help
Russia in their attempt to get a Putin-free country. What a
shameful action from those two multibillion companies. :( https://tinyurl.com/sdx6yb9j If any of our Russian friends have
already downloaded the Android app, can you please send it to me, and
I'll be happy to put it on my two servers.

You mean there is a way to send to somebody the app that had been
installed from Google Play on somebody's smartphone?

Bye, Bj?rn!
Alexander Koryagin
fido.fidonews 2021
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Hello Alexander,

This is incredible. The Russian people actually have the
opportunity to remove Putin and his corrupt gang from power.
And then Google and Apple caves in to pressure from the Putin
gang and removes the very "Smart Voting" app that would help
Russia in their attempt to get a Putin-free country. What a
shameful action from those two multibillion companies. :(
https://tinyurl.com/sdx6yb9j If any of our Russian friends have
already downloaded the Android app, can you please send it to me, and
I'll be happy to put it on my two servers.

You mean there is a way to send to somebody the app that had been installed from Google Play on somebody's smartphone?

There are many ways to skin a cat ...

--Lee

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You mean there is a way to send to somebody the app that had been installed from Google Play on somebody's smartphone?

Yes of course. On your phone it is stored as an *.APK file.



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Hi, Bj?rn Felten!
I read your message from 24.09.2021 08:02

You mean there is a way to send to somebody the app that
had been installed from Google Play on somebody's
smartphone?

Yes of course. On your phone it is stored as an *.APK file.
..

Probably one should have the root for this.


Bye, Bj?rn!
Alexander Koryagin
fido.fidonews 2021
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Hello Bj”rn,

You mean there is a way to send to somebody the app that had been
installed from Google Play on somebody's smartphone?

Yes of course. On your phone it is stored as an *.APK file.

My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing ...

--Lee

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Yes of course. On your phone it is stored as an *.APK file.
..

Probably one should have the root for this.

Probably not. I've never rooted any of my phones, too risky. All you need is a decent file handler, like e.g. Total Commander.



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Hello Bj”rn,

Yes of course. On your phone it is stored as an *.APK file.
..

Probably one should have the root for this.

Probably not. I've never rooted any of my phones, too risky. All you need is
a decent file handler, like e.g. Total Commander.

Wow! 10.0! What a ride!

Something even the Chinese can understand!

My name is Lee! I know Kung Flu!

--Lee

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Hi, Bj?rn Felten!
I read your message from 24.09.2021 18:23

Yes of course. On your phone it is stored as an
*.APK file. ..

Probably one should have the root for this.

Probably not. I've never rooted any of my phones, too risky.
All you need is a decent file handler, like e.g. Total
Commander.

Take, for instance, Google Chrome app. I know there is apk for it. But
how to find it? I could not find it using ES File Explorer Pro.

Bye, Bj?rn!
Alexander Koryagin
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Take, for instance, Google Chrome app. I know there is apk for it. But
how to find it? I could not find it using ES File Explorer Pro.

Google is your friend.

"If you want to locate the APK files in your Android phones, you can find the APK for user-installed apps under /data/app/directory while the preinstalled ones are located in /system/app folder and you can access them by using ES File Explorer. 28 juni 2021"



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Björn wrote (2021-09-28):

Take, for instance, Google Chrome app. I know there is apk for it.
But how to find it? I could not find it using ES File Explorer Pro.

Google is your friend.

"If you want to locate the APK files in your Android phones, you can find the APK for user-installed apps under /data/app/directory while the preinstalled ones are located in /system/app folder and you can access them by using ES File Explorer. 28 juni 2021"

There is also the apkeep tool:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/09/introducing-apkeep-eff-threat-labs-new-apk-downloader

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Hi, Bj?rn Felten!
I read your message from 28.09.2021 09:38

Take, for instance, Google Chrome app. I know there is apk
for it. But how to find it? I could not find it using ES
File Explorer Pro.

Google is your friend.
"If you want to locate the APK files in your Android phones,
you can find the APK for user-installed apps under
/data/app/directory while the preinstalled ones are located in
/system/app folder and you can access them by using ES File Explorer.
28 juni 2021" ..

I've found it. If I delete all apk I will gain a lot of space on my
smart phone. Can I? ;-) But why do they store them in the smart phone
and don't delete after installation?

Bye, Bj?rn!
Alexander Koryagin
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I've found it. If I delete all apk I will gain a lot of space on my
smart phone. Can I? ;-) But why do they store them in the smart phone
and don't delete after installation?

I really don't know why they keep them, Alexander. Maybe it's a lazy way to keep track of what apps you have installed? At least you could try and delete just one of them and see what happens.

On my Amazon Fire TV Stick there's a function that let's you delete the APK file after you've installed it, but I've never tried it on my smartphone. With 64G internal and 128G external memory it doesn't matter much.



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Hi, Bj?rn Felten!
I read your message from 28.09.2021 21:08

I've found it. If I delete all apk I will gain a lot of
space on my smart phone. Can I? ;-) But why do they store
them in the smart phone and don't delete after installation?

I really don't know why they keep them, Alexander. Maybe
it's a lazy way to keep track of what apps you have installed?
At least you could try and delete just one of them and see what
happens. On my Amazon Fire TV Stick there's a function that let's
you delete the APK file after you've installed it, but I've never tried
it on my smartphone. With 64G internal and 128G external memory it
doesn't matter much.

Still more wandering is that the cleaning Android apps don't offer the
user to remove these apks. If a phone has 16G it is really actual option.

Bye, Bj?rn!
Alexander Koryagin
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On 23 Sep 2021, alexander koryagin said the following...

You mean there is a way to send to somebody the app that had been installed from Google Play on somebody's smartphone?

There are a couple of apps that will let you pull the .apk file and do whatever you want with it. You can also do it via adb from the commandline of a PC.

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On 24 Sep 2021, alexander koryagin said the following...

Probably one should have the root for this.

No need for root for that.

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On 27 Sep 2021, alexander koryagin said the following...

Take, for instance, Google Chrome app. I know there is apk for it. But
how to find it? I could not find it using ES File Explorer Pro.

Chrome, along with most Google apps, use split APKs and it's also normally in the system partition.

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On 28 Sep 2021, alexander koryagin said the following...

smart phone. Can I? ;-) But why do they store them in the smart phone
and don't delete after installation?

The APK are needed for the app to run. You delete them and the apps won't run anymore.

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On 29 Sep 2021, Richard Miles said the following...

smart phone. Can I? ;-) But why do they store them in the smart phone and don't delete after installation?

The APK are needed for the app to run. You delete them and the apps
won't run anymore.

Actually I mispoke. Some you won't need after install. Most you will though. The apk is both installer and executable.

When you download an apk and sideload it, you can delete the ones in the download folder because during install it's copied to /data/app/name-of-app usually.

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Hi, Richard Miles!
I read your message from 30.09.2021 02:39

smart phone. Can I? ;-) But why do they store them

in the smart phone ak> and don't delete after
installation?
The APK are needed for the app to run. You delete them and
the apps won't run anymore.

Actually I mispoke. Some you won't need after install. Most you
will though. The apk is both installer and executable. When
you download an apk and sideload it, you can delete the ones in
the download folder because during install it's copied to /data/app/name-of-app usually.

Actually a not-rooted Android user cannot delete apks. No permission for
this, I tried.

Bye, Richard!
Alexander Koryagin
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