• Rich Tech

    From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Alan Ianson on Mon Jun 28 11:44:16 2021
    Alan wrote (2021-06-27):

    The problem is not big-tech. The problem is bullshit and bullshiters.

    The problem is big-tech and

    How is big-tech a problem?

    how is it not? ;)

    https://onezero.medium.com/how-to-destroy-surveillance-capitalism-8135e6744d59

    bullshit capitalism.

    Capitalism works.

    unfortunately it does.

    Just how well it works is debatable.

    depends of the perspective or how you measure it.

    it works very well to make a few people enormously rich and powerful.

    it's also very effective in destroying the environment – fast and enduring.

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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Alan Ianson on Fri Jul 2 12:25:42 2021
    Alan wrote (2021-06-29):

    This is also the actions or inactions of men. The problem is not capitalism, it is the way it is used.

    I don't know about what fairy-tale version of capitalism you have in mind.
    I mean capitalism in the way it is used or as the system with all the laws
    and (non-)regulations that exist today. It's a systemic problem and not a problem with a few bad actors. Capitalism as it exists is made to make a minority very rich and reward sociopathic/psychopathic behaviour.


    https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22550608/how-big-business-exploits-small-business

    https://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/opinion/sunday/fables-of-wealth.html

    and of course: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_in_the_Twenty-First_Century

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Alan Ianson on Sun Jul 4 16:56:00 2021
    Hello Alan Ianson!

    ** On Friday 02.07.21 - 05:03, Alan Ianson wrote to Oli:

    [...]

    Capitalism as it exists is made to make a minority very
    rich and reward sociopathic/psychopathic behaviour.

    Capitalism is not designed for that outcome but indeed
    that is what we get much of the time.

    Essential reading..

    An award-winning author and leading
    international economist delivers a much-needed
    plan for rethinking capitalism and tackling the
    most urgent problems in modern society.

    Capitalism is in crisis. The rich have gotten
    richer - the 1 percent, those who earn more
    than $1 million annually, own 44 percent of
    the world's wealth - while climate change is
    transforming, and in some cases wiping out, life on
    the planet. We are plagued by crises threatening our
    lives, and this situation is unsustainable. But how do
    we confront these problems proactively, reimagining
    our future, rather than retroactively picking up the
    pieces as markets fail?

    Mission Economy looks at the grand challenges
    facing us in a radically new way. Global warming,
    pollution, dementia, obesity, gun violence, mobility -
    these environmental, health, and social dilemmas are
    huge and complex, and do not have simple solution.

    Mariana Mazzucato argues that we need to think bigger
    and mobilize our resources in a way that is as bold
    and inspirational as the moon landing - this time
    to solve the most wicked problems of our time. We
    can only begin to find answers if we fundamentally
    restructure capitalism to make it inclusive, sustain-
    able, and driven by innovation that tackles concrete
    issues, from the digital divide to health pandemic
    to our polluted cities: Fundamentally, this requires
    redesigning government tools to be less about sub-
    sidies and more about proactive investments toward
    the common good, restructuring corporate gover-
    nance to be more stakeholder driven, and rethinking
    economic theory, which has often misguided both the
    public and private sectors.

    This book tackles and relates all three of these
    challenges: changing government, changing business,
    and changing theory. It is essential reading if we are
    ever to stop going from one crisis to another.

    Mission Economy: A Moonshot Guide to Changing Capitalism |
    Hardcover
    Mariana Mazzucato
    HarperCollins | Harper Business
    Business & Economics / Economics - Theory / Government & Business / Decision Making & Problem Solving
    Published Mar 23, 2021 | Sales (#4421)
    $29.99 US / $36.99 CA list price

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to August Abolins on Mon Jul 5 01:33:24 2021
    Hello August,

    Capitalism as it exists is made to make a minority very
    rich and reward sociopathic/psychopathic behaviour.

    Capitalism is not designed for that outcome but indeed
    that is what we get much of the time.

    Essential reading..

    Is it? Seems more like an old re-tread to me.

    An award-winning author and leading
    international economist delivers a much-needed
    plan for rethinking capitalism and tackling the
    most urgent problems in modern society.

    Mikhail Gorbachev called it "Glasnost".
    Or was it "Perestroika"? Kind of hard to tell,
    given what happened to his [former] country.

    Capitalism is in crisis. The rich have gotten
    richer - the 1 percent, those who earn more
    than $1 million annually, own 44 percent of
    the world's wealth - while climate change is
    transforming, and in some cases wiping out, life on
    the planet. We are plagued by crises threatening our
    lives, and this situation is unsustainable. But how do
    we confront these problems proactively, reimagining
    our future, rather than retroactively picking up the
    pieces as markets fail?

    Karl Marx said much the same thing. But really.
    Has anybody truly looked at what he had underneath
    all that beard?

    Mission Economy looks at the grand challenges
    facing us in a radically new way. Global warming,
    pollution, dementia, obesity, gun violence, mobility -
    these environmental, health, and social dilemmas are
    huge and complex, and do not have simple solution.

    What we had in the old Soviet Union was a series of dictatorships,
    each under a different guise. First there was Leninism, then there
    was Stalinism, followed by others with their own unique form of
    -ism, with Gorbachev deciding he had had enough.

    Mariana Mazzucato argues that we need to think bigger
    and mobilize our resources in a way that is as bold
    and inspirational as the moon landing - this time
    to solve the most wicked problems of our time.

    Her argument is more like Mission Impossible. No state-run
    economy would be any better (if not worse) than what we have
    now. No need to look at the old USSR or Cuba for guidance.
    We all know what happened there.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-economy- breakingvi/breakingviews-review-mission-economy-may-be-mission -impossible-idUSKBN29Y219


    We can only begin to find answers if we fundamentally
    restructure capitalism to make it inclusive, sustain-
    able, and driven by innovation that tackles concrete
    issues, from the digital divide to health pandemic
    to our polluted cities:

    Kind of cute, using different words meaning the same thing.
    Marx would have gladly approved. But he is no longer here, is
    he? With almost the entire world rejecting his claims.

    Fundamentally, this requires
    redesigning government tools to be less about sub-
    sidies and more about proactive investments toward
    the common good, restructuring corporate gover-
    nance to be more stakeholder driven, and rethinking
    economic theory, which has often misguided both the
    public and private sectors.

    That's the spirit! Let the government own both the
    public and private sectors, redistributing the income
    so all can be equal!

    This book tackles and relates all three of these
    challenges: changing government, changing business,
    and changing theory. It is essential reading if we are
    ever to stop going from one crisis to another.

    China, Laos, Cuba, and North Korea.
    Mazzucato's heaven.
    Everybody else's hell.

    Mission Economy: A Moonshot Guide to Changing Capitalism |
    Hardcover
    Mariana Mazzucato
    HarperCollins | Harper Business
    Business & Economics / Economics - Theory / Government & Business / Decision
    Making & Problem Solving
    Published Mar 23, 2021 | Sales (#4421)
    $29.99 US / $36.99 CA list price

    Karl Marx' "Communist Manifesto" is free at Project Gutenberg.
    As well as "Das Kapital" - cowritten by his friend Engels.

    --Lee

    --
    Not my president!

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