Hello Everybody,
I told you he was nuts. And nobody wanted to believe me. Do you believe
me now?
“Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, if it's ultraviolet or very powerful light. And I think he said that hasn't been checked but he was going to test it. Then I said what it if you brought the light inside of the body which you could do either through the skin or some other way and I think you said you were going to test that, too. Sounds
interesting. Then I see the disinfectant, knocks it out in one minute. Is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside, or almost a cleaning because you see it gets on the lungs. That you're gonna have
to use medical doctors. Because it sounds interesting. The way the light killed that in one minute is pretty powerful.” ~ Donald J. Trump, 4/23/2020, live and on camera
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Lee Lofaso wrote to All <=-
Hello Everybody,
I told you he was nuts.
And nobody wanted to believe me.
Do you believe me now?
I told you he was nuts.
And nobody wanted to believe me.
Do you believe me now?
You're a hateful person.
Lee Lofaso wrote to All <=-
Hello Everybody,
I told you he was nuts.
And nobody wanted to believe me.
Do you believe me now?
Lee Lofaso wrote to Daniel <=-
Hello Daniel,
I told you he was nuts.
And nobody wanted to believe me.
Do you believe me now?
You're a hateful person.
You're right. Absolutely right.
Here is what real doctors are saying
about the president's comments -
mark lewis wrote to Daniel <=-
Re: Re: Psych Report Needed
By: Daniel to Lee Lofaso on Fri Apr 24 2020 12:00:00
Lee Lofaso wrote to All <=-
Hello Everybody,
I told you he was nuts.
And nobody wanted to believe me.
Do you believe me now?
Daniel> You're a hateful person.
no, he's a troll and a pretty damned good one, too... if i were to be a troll when i grow up, it'd be a troll like lee... though i daresay i'd probably be only 1/2 as good as he -=B-)
FWIW: it'll take some time but you and others not so familiar with lee will understand one day... maybe... his postings now are on the
extremely tame side of the scale ;)
The left hates Trump so badly, regardless,
Bjorn Felten wrote to Daniel <=-
The left hates Trump so badly, regardless,
How can you hate an incompetent, narcissistic clown, with the
language of a 4th grader and the intelligence of a 1st grader?
May I ask if you live in the US?
How can you hate an incompetent, narcissistic clown, with the
language of a 4th grader and the intelligence of a 1st grader?
Daniel wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-
You're a hateful person.
aThe left hates Trump so badly, regardless,
How can you hate an incompetent, narcissistic clown, with the language of
4th grader and the intelligence of a 1st grader?
Bj!rn Felten wrote to Daniel <=-
May I ask if you live in the US?
Good heavens no. I couldn't live in a country where all politicians
are bribed.
mark lewis wrote to Daniel <=-
Re: Re: Psych Report Needed
By: Daniel to Bj.rn Felten on Sun Apr 26 2020 03:05:00
How can you hate an incompetent, narcissistic clown, with the
language of a 4th grader and the intelligence of a 1st grader?
Daniel> You sound hateful as well Bjorn. May I ask if you live in the
US?
FWIW: you have the tools available with which to answer your
question... his origin line says zone 2 and his nodelist entries say sweden ;)
Kurt Weiske wrote to Daniel <=-
Daniel wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-
You're a hateful person.
As it takes hate to hate, I'm offended by your hatefulness.
It's bad enough that the liberals have turned our education system
into a joke. We have a growing population of kids who think earth is
flat.
The republican president thought about injecting bleach to cure Covid19 and to "internally" use UV for the same purpose.
Good heavens no. I couldn't live in a country where all politicians
are bribed.
Wow, absolute rubbish.
Well (nearly) EVERYBODY knew ... except Trump.
I think it is a set-up and he has a deal with major networks to give
their stand-up commedians a constant stream of material.
aboutYou're a hateful person.
As it takes hate to hate, I'm offended by your hatefulness.
That made no sense, but I'll give it a shot. Of course it takes hate to hate;
that's what you do. It's natural for a hateful person to be offended. The emotion is related. I don't even dislike you, and I don't know a thing
you other than the seething hate that bleeds into your opinions.
So, Lee, I hope you feel better. Being hateful can't feel good. Remember this: Love creates, hate destroys.
I think it is a set-up and he has a deal with major networks to give
their stand-up commedians a constant stream of material.
He sure is entertaining himself.
I start everyday, watching his latest stupidities -- two hours of rambling masqueraded as information from the White House.
Although, I watch a few summaries of it (the best parts) readily available on the 'net, not all of it. DUH!
Just imagine that all the major TV companies are actually sending it livein
it's entirety. Amazing...
Richard Menedetter wrote to Daniel <=-
Hi Daniel!
26 Apr 2020 22:26, from Daniel -> Bj.rn Felten:
It's bad enough that the liberals have turned our education system
into a joke. We have a growing population of kids who think earth is
flat.
I need some help here.
We both agree that the education (and health) system of the USA is a
joke.
But if I take a look at the correlation between ridicolous theories and the political view of the proponents of those, I see a clear and overwhelming correlation.
I have never heared anything as ridicolous from any high ranking democratic poltician.
Soo currently I fail to see the correlation you hint at.
(To be honest I see the exact opposit correlation!)
I am quit happy to live in a country with a more or less working educational, health and social system.
But we need to be vigilant, as the next clown can come any time, and
the situation can change very rapidly to the worse.
Bjorn Felten wrote to Daniel <=-
Good heavens no. I couldn't live in a country where all politicians
are bribed.
Wow, absolute rubbish.
Yes, not all your politicians are bought. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
is *one* wonderful exception.
This is one of the many things that the rest of the world cannot understand why you accept. How can you not see that your system with politicians sponsored by major corporations is the ultimate corruption?
If even the slightest suspicion of a Swedish politician taking
money, from even a small local pop&mom business, arose, he or she would
be kicked out so fast they wouldn't even know what hit them.
Such arrogance that you claim to speak for the rest of the world. You have y fingers on the pulse of all the culture's intentions and interests? I think not. But even then, they're not Americans nor do they vote. You must be a globalist, no-borders sort of person?
It's something I'll repeat from another thread. Leftists are so arrogant ab their intellect that perspective is completely gone. When you focus on minut
countryI am quit happy to live in a country with a more or less working
educational, health and social system.
How nationalistic of you. I am sure your country's system is spot on. Every country on earth models their system after yours. I'm sure that your
produces endless innovation and technological revolutions. I'm sure people fly to your country in droves for its healthcare. Each Fall season, droves ofThat's
eighteen year olds migrate to your country to attend college. Wait...
my country, the US.
here.But we need to be vigilant, as the next clown can come any time, and
the situation can change very rapidly to the worse.
We? You're not American so who's we? You have zero say on what happens
'We need to be vigilant.' Guess what sunshine? The majority gets the voice in
the US despite the left's attempts of fraud and ballot manipulation.
When you focus on minute
details that don't equate to anything beyond an emotional response, you completely miss the big picture because you're looking only through a microscope.
Lee Lofaso wrote to Daniel <=-
The state of Louisiana offers free college tuition for its residents.
The state of Louisiana used to offer free medical care as well, until
the last Republican governor dismantled the hospital system that had worked so well for decades.
Most people in the USA cannot afford to get sick, being either
under-insured or having no health insurance at all. And having
to repay those college loans at exorbitant interest rates puts
them even further in debt.
Talk about the land of the free, and the home of the brave.
More like the place to die young, as nobody is able to grow old.
Richard is German. I am Cajun. Not sure who or what you are.
Hillary Clinton received almost 3 million votes more than her
nearest opponent. Yet the loser was declared the winner. Goes
to show you how screwed up US presidential elections are.
Bj!rn Felten wrote to Daniel <=-
When you focus on minute
details that don't equate to anything beyond an emotional response, you completely miss the big picture because you're looking only through a microscope.
That's OK. Just don't forget to inject your daily doses of bleach
and you'll be fine.
That's OK. Just don't forget to inject your daily doses of bleach
and you'll be fine.
You're a funny guy. Didn't your mom teach you not to lie? I know we're
on a bbs echo, but let's get real here.
The state of Louisiana offers free college tuition for its residents. >LL>The state of Louisiana used to offer free medical care as well, until >LL>the last Republican governor dismantled the hospital system that had >LL>worked so well for decades.
Thank you for this example of socialism as a failed ethos.
The colleges are pocketing the remainder of the monies and I'm sure they're
happy to do so. Meanwhile, students from other states attending Louisiana universities aren't offered this program.
Most people in the USA cannot afford to get sick, being either >LL>under-insured or having no health insurance at all. And having
That problem is unrelated to our government and its systems.
It's a symptom of individual potential and cultural norms.
Socialists don't agree, but not everyone has potential.
to repay those college loans at exorbitant interest rates puts
them even further in debt.
The college loan problem is a complicated one but there are many solutions
that exist. Employing a failed ethos won't help a failed system.
Talk about the land of the free, and the home of the brave.
More like the place to die young, as nobody is able to grow old.
Just once I'd like to hear a leftist speak their mind and not repeat
speaking points that they've heard from others.
Richard is German. I am Cajun. Not sure who or what you are.
Great way of framing that statement. 'Not sure who or what you are.' Just a
tinge of dismissal there.
Hillary Clinton received almost 3 million votes more than her
nearest opponent. Yet the loser was declared the winner. Goes
to show you how screwed up US presidential elections are.
Oh okay, you don't know how our election system works. Fair enough.
The entire country had a voice.
I thank our constitution for having an electoral system.
By the way, whole words are disappearing when multimail word wraps my posts.
Don't think I didn't notice your insertions of these missing words in your responses. That's a subtle example of my earlier statement about the left's self-appointed arrogance and condescending tone when debating people with whom they disagree.
Thank you for this example of socialism as a failed ethos.
Lee Lofaso wrote to Daniel <=-
Hello Daniel,
The state of Louisiana offers free college tuition for its residents.
The state of Louisiana used to offer free medical care as well, until
the last Republican governor dismantled the hospital system that had
worked so well for decades.
Thank you for this example of socialism as a failed ethos.
Works great. A wealthy oil tycoon got it all started, decades ago.
The state legislature then expanded the program to what it is today.
The state of Louisiana offers free college tuition for its residents.
The state of Louisiana used to offer free medical care as well, until
the last Republican governor dismantled the hospital system that had
worked so well for decades.
Thank you for this example of socialism as a failed ethos.
Works great. A wealthy oil tycoon got it all started, decades ago.
The state legislature then expanded the program to what it is today.
I suppose a socialist considers all failures as success. I'm done with you, the deception has infiltrated your mind to the grain. Have a blast, wherever lyou ive and we're glad you're not a voter here.
Government provides, business denies.
That's OK. Just don't forget to inject your daily doses of bleach
and you'll be fine.
You're a funny guy. Didn't your mom teach you not to lie? I know we're
on a bbs echo, but let's get real here.
So that's how you Trumpsters explain what the world is laughing at now? No longer the obvious lie that it was "a sarcastic question"? I see...
Bj-rn Felten wrote to Daniel <=-
That's OK. Just don't forget to inject your daily doses of bleach
and you'll be fine.
Lee Lofaso wrote to Daniel <=-
Hello Daniel,
The state of Louisiana offers free college tuition for its residents.
The state of Louisiana used to offer free medical care as well, until
the last Republican governor dismantled the hospital system that had
worked so well for decades.
Thank you for this example of socialism as a failed ethos.
Works great. A wealthy oil tycoon got it all started, decades ago.
The state legislature then expanded the program to what it is today.
I suppose a socialist considers all failures as success. I'm done with you, the deception has infiltrated your mind to the grain. Have a blast, wherever lyou ive and we're glad you're not a voter here.
Government provides, business denies.
He's afraid of needles. Clorox Chewables are the way to go.
That's OK. Just don't forget to inject your daily doses of bleach
and you'll be fine.
He's afraid of needles. Clorox Chewables are the way to go.
businesses.Government provides, business denies.
In Daniel- and Nick-land tax payer money should go all away into
But you knew that already, yes?
The state of Louisiana offers free college tuition for its residents.
The state of Louisiana used to offer free medical care as well, until
the last Republican governor dismantled the hospital system that had
worked so well for decades.
Thank you for this example of socialism as a failed ethos.
Works great. A wealthy oil tycoon got it all started, decades ago.
The state legislature then expanded the program to what it is today.
I suppose a socialist considers all failures as success. I'm done EO>withyou, the deception has infiltrated your mind to the grain. EO>Have a blast, wherever lyou ive and we're glad you're not a voter EO>here.
Government provides, business denies.
History shows otherwise. Have you tried living in Cuba? You'd love it.
Been there. Done that. Best sand bar on the planet.
I didn't write what you are replying to, so I'm not sure why your reply is directed at me.
At the bottom of the page was a node number with your name on it ...
--Lee
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well, look at that... this node number has Bjrn Felten's node number
Amazing, isn't it? Sysops own node numbers! Who'd a thunk it?
; May I ask if you live in the US?
Wow, absolute rubbish. There's right and wrong. And then, there's 'not even wrong.' You fit in the 'not even wrong' category. Your simple sentence said quite a bit, believe it or not.
I'm so very glad you don't live here. It's bad enough that the liberals have
turned our education system into a joke. We have a growing population of kids
who think earth is flat. So we can live without people like you.
David Drummond wrote to Daniel <=-
On 27/04/2020 15:26, 1340/7 wrote:
politiciansBF>> are bribed.
Wow, absolute rubbish. There's right and wrong. And then, there's 'not even wrong.' You fit in the 'not even wrong' category. Your simple sentence said quite a bit, believe it or not.
I'm so very glad you don't live here. It's bad enough that the liberals
have
turned our education system into a joke. We have a growing population of
kids
who think earth is flat. So we can live without people like you.
I'm sure that Bj.rn is absolutely heartbroken about your dismissal.
I know this may shock you but not everyone in the world wants to live
in USA.
; I'm so very glad you don't live here. It's bad enough that the liberals have
; turned our education system into a joke. We have a growing population of kids
; who think earth is flat. So we can live without people like you.
Interesting. Was this outlandish comment designed to hurt me or is this your
way of dismissing me? Both?
It's not shocking at all. That's your right, whereverthat is, and I'm delighted
you are living in a country that makes you happy. It's a sign of nationalism
and hate that drives someone to discuss personal disdain for other countries in
a public forum. It's mindblowing, especially when I hear it from those on the
left. You know, the side who falsely self-assigns values such as openmindedness, acceptance, unity, etc.
Nationalism is one of the great faults of the modern world. When the one world government comes into its own, when we're all pulling for humankind as a whole instead of competing on silly patriotic fronts, the world will be a better place for all.
By being glad that Björn doesn't live in USA shows how open minded and accepting you are?
BTW - I am not "on the left". I am right handed. I have no political affiliations what-so-ever. I do not support any political party. I do not even vote for any of them (as most Fidonetters already know, I am not actually entitled to vote).
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Regards
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Nationalism is one of the great faults of the modern world.
This sooner this foolish idea that it is in our destiny to form "one world",
the better.
Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Dennisk <=-
Hello Dennisk!
07 May 20 12:21, Dennisk wrote to David Drummond:
This sooner this foolish idea that it is in our destiny to form "one world",
the better.
We'll see how evolution works on this. Lately, "the world" is changing
so fast that it'll probably take some time to catch up. Running the
modern world with the mechanics of a stone-age society in our minds
won't work forever.
Meanwhile, can you come up with anything you like that nationalism has achieved for us (or just you) since, say, the French Revolution?
Regards,
Gerrit
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Gerrit Kuehn wrote to David Drummond <=-
07 May 20 08:12, David Drummond wrote to Daniel:
Nationalism is one of the great faults of the modern world.
A true statement, and truly understated.
Nationalism is one of the great faults of the modern world.
A true statement, and truly understated.
Modern?
Nationalism is one of the great faults of the modern world.
A true statement, and truly understated.
Modern?
Evolution works on groups, so if you don't work for your group, you
are out.
There is a conflict between ideals and the hard, physical reality of nature.
As for what has Nationalism done? Well, the assertion of national sovreignty
liberated many countries from their colonial masters, it helped drive
the break
up of Communist states and helped drive a political alternative to monarchy and
absolutism. I would also argue that Nation states based on heredity
are best
situated to offer people freedom, rather than "propositional" states, which
must impose their propositions on the population.
You may be under the impression that Nationalism is just Nazi Germany
and
Mussolini, but that position doesn't hold water. I take Nationalism
in its
literal sense, that is, the organisation of political and economic insitutions
around a nation of people, FOR a nation of people. That gives the institutions
and economic a locus, a focus, a definite people to which they must
serve.
country exists by the people, of the people, FOR the people, is the
best system
that we have. And that essentially is a Nationalistic position,
because it is
a recognition that we, the identifiable group of people, create the
state for
*our* posterity and wellbeing.
What is the alternative? Beaurocracies at the top, where the
instution, not a
people, is the focus of human enterprise? Where we exist to serve
some
abstract entity, rather than those entities serving us?
Lastly, in my lifetime, the number of nation states has increased, not decreased. Countries have broken apart, some have gained
independence. I
haven't seen any mergers, and experiments such as the EU, are looking
very
shaky indeed.
Nationalism is one of the great faults of the modern world.
A true statement, and truly understated.
Modern?
Depends on where you set the limit.
How about: when the apes *imagined* that they understood the difference between black and brown apes?
Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Dennisk <=-
Hello Dennisk!
07 May 20 22:50, Dennisk wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:
Evolution works on groups, so if you don't work for your group, you
are out.
So where does it say how large this group has to be? In previous times
the typical group size people lived in was something like 100 people
(give or leave 50). That's the size where you can still know everybody personally. Beyond that size, the game is different. However, plenty of our mind is still working in this archaic mode, and the more crowded
and the more connected and entwined the world gets, the lesser this
fits reality and life.
There is a conflict between ideals and the hard, physical reality of nature.
An interesting note here might be that we all have ideals, we all have ethics, religion and so on. These are there to make large groups of
people work. Without them, our societies would fall apart into clans or tribes of around 100 people like it used to be.
As for what has Nationalism done? Well, the assertion of national sovreignty
liberated many countries from their colonial masters, it helped drive
the break
up of Communist states and helped drive a political alternative to
monarchy and
absolutism. I would also argue that Nation states based on heredity
are best
situated to offer people freedom, rather than "propositional" states,
which
must impose their propositions on the population.
That's one side of the coin, although I don't see how you are going to proof you last statement, but well.
You may be under the impression that Nationalism is just Nazi Germany
and
Mussolini, but that position doesn't hold water. I take Nationalism
in its
literal sense, that is, the organisation of political and economic insitutions
around a nation of people, FOR a nation of people. That gives the institutions
and economic a locus, a focus, a definite people to which they must
serve.
You're able to think like this because you live in a nation that hasn't been plagued by bloody wars for centuries. Wars that have primarily
been caused and fed by nationalism of one or the other colour. Even the colonialism you said above to be ended by nationalism is usually driven
by it.
country exists by the people, of the people, FOR the people, is the
best system
that we have. And that essentially is a Nationalistic position,
because it is
a recognition that we, the identifiable group of people, create the
state for
*our* posterity and wellbeing.
Limited to people living in that particular country and given their
share in wellbeing. Wellbeing for people in a system like that is essentially created by other people being not-so-well off. These can be outside your country, or even inside.
A nation is not an island, and it nowadays hardly can exist without the rest of the world around it. That's part of the game change I was
talking about earlier. The whole planet has become so "global" in the
20th and 21st century, why should we run it with concepts mainly
invented in the 18th/19th century? Concepts that /brought/ us wars, racism, colonialism, and slavery (to name just a few) in dimensions
never seen before.
Nationalism requires to divide people into more or less arbitrary
groups, you said it to be based on "heredity". What sense does that
make? I can look back in my ancestry, and just by going back 4
generations I'll find people from more or less all over Europe. So what sense does it make that I am "German", a nation mainly invented about
150 years ago by the warlords of that time on their recently conquered territory that used to consist of around 40 countries 200 years ago
(and hundreds of these before that)?
What is the alternative? Beaurocracies at the top, where the
instution, not a
people, is the focus of human enterprise? Where we exist to serve
some
abstract entity, rather than those entities serving us?
Nope, but that is just /how/ a country is run, not /why/.
Lastly, in my lifetime, the number of nation states has increased, not decreased. Countries have broken apart, some have gained
independence. I
haven't seen any mergers, and experiments such as the EU, are looking
very
shaky indeed.
How old are you? FRG and GDR merged in 1990. North and South Vietnam merged in 1976.
But "mergers" are usually driven by a powerful player (see my comment
on German history above), often under the claim of "forming a nation". Europe has seen plenty of it, and the EU has been formed to overcome exactly that. Up to now it worked out pretty well on that part.
Russia merging with Crimera, or China with with Tibet or HongKong (or maybe soon with Taiwan) are perfect examples of the road nationalism
goes.
Regards,
Gerrit
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Depends on what you call "modern". I'd say over here in Europe
nationalism as we know it today started around the time of the French Revolution to have something to replace the king.
Do people really believe that a one world government is workable, or even desirable?
This kind of belief seems to be a peculiarly Western belief, which
arises with more decadent thinkers.
There is no humanity pulling all together, this should be painfully obvious now, and if people still believe in
this,
they will be eaten alive by those with stronger group loyalties.
I would rather humanity in distinct nations, a patchwork world of seperate peoples with their own culture, their own home, with ownership over
their own nation, than the nightmare dystopia of a technocratic one-world mega-beaurocracy.
the better.
Depends on what you call "modern". I'd say over here in Europe
nationalism as we know it today started around the time of the French
Revolution to have something to replace the king.
I'm looking forward to the times when our royal household will be
declared useless.
"What? Work for money?"
I'm looking forward to the times when our royal household will be
declared useless.
I'm looking forward to the times when our royal household will be
declared useless.
The president alternative doesn't seem all that appealing nowadays. We
have a rather scary example across the pond...
But a monarchy? Our royals are related to a person who ranks very high
on the hitparade of greatest massmurderers ever and they now still bask
in the wealth reaped from the backs of 12 million or more murdered black people ...
Depends on what you call "modern". I'd say over here in Europe
nationalism as we know it today started around the time of the French
Revolution to have something to replace the king.
I'm looking forward to the times when our royal household will be declared useless.
I'm looking forward to the times when our royal household will be
declared useless.
The president alternative doesn't seem all that appealing nowadays. We have
a rather scary example across the pond...
I'm looking forward to the times when our royal household will be
declared useless.
The president alternative doesn't seem all that appealing nowadays. BF>Wehave a rather scary example across the pond...
That is an undisputable fact.
The person in that office overthere is granted too much power and can rule by decree in a political system which is not geared to change that.
There is a word for that.
When one thinks about it then the parallels between that country and North Korea are striking, they also have a supreme leader who rules without being
challenged.
But a monarchy? Our royals are related to a person who ranks very high on the hitparade of greatest massmurderers ever and they now still bask in the
wealth reaped from the backs of 12 million or more murdered black people ...
Up until Abraham Lincoln, almost all our presidents owned black
people as property.
Your royal household is somewhat special and was established after the French Revolution (and your king was /elected/ as 3rd choice after the others didn't accept). So I guess you wanted it this way, and you
certainly could decide to take a different route.
So I guess you wanted it this way, and
you certainly could decide to take a different route.
I hope you won't take any offence over this but the current
There is no majority in Belgium anymore among the commoners to
maintain the royal household, but there's no political majority and
it would be such a legalistic upset that no-one wants to eat that hot potato.
The presidency (in the US) is a very weak office. Had you bothered
to read the US Constitution, you would have known that.
I was under the impression that he had owned (black) slaves as well.
Up until Abraham Lincoln, almost all our presidents owned black
people as property.
I was under the impression that he had owned (black) slaves as well.
Where did you get that impression?
I was under the impression that even his parents were strongly against slavery.
Honest "Babe" Lincoln was not the kind of person everybody thinks.
Perhaps it is Washington that I was thinking of...
Up until Abraham Lincoln, almost all our presidents owned black
people as property.
I was under the impression that he had owned (black) slaves as well.
Perhaps it is Washington that I was thinking of...
That may very well be it.
By then (almost a century earlier) it was mostly European misfits that managed to create the not so nice society of that time.
I was under the impression that he had owned (black) slaves DD>as well.
Where did you get that impression? I was under the impression that even his
parents were strongly against slavery.
Honest "Babe" Lincoln was not the kind of person everybody thinks.
The rest of this conspiracy shit of yours may very well be believed by a Trumpster group, but out here we are a wee bit more educated.
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