Hi, all!

In "The Great Catsby", by F.Scott Fitzerald, I read this:

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The Carraways are something of a clan, and we have a tradition that we're descended from the Dukes of Buccleuch, but the actual founder of my line was my grandfather's brother, who came here in fifty-one, sent a substitute to the Civil War, and started the wholesale hardware business that my father carries on to-day.
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What is "a substitute to the Civil War"?

Bye, all!
Alexander Koryagin

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Hi Alexander -- on Oct 14 2019 at 10:12, you wrote:

In "The Great Catsby", by F.Scott Fitzerald, I read this:

Gatsby

sent a substitute to the Civil War, and started the wholesale
hardware business that my father carries on to-day. ----- The end of
the citation -----

What is "a substitute to the Civil War"?

In that time, people with money and/or influence could send someone to the civil war instead of serving themselves. Not particularly honourable, perhaps, but that's how it was done!


Cheers... Dallas

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Re: ?
By: Alexander Koryagin to All on Mon Oct 14 2019 10:12:06

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The Carraways are something of a clan, and we have a tradition that we're descended from the Dukes of Buccleuch, but the actual founder of my line

was my

grandfather's brother, who came here in fifty-one, sent a substitute to

the

Civil War, and started the wholesale hardware business that my father

carries

on to-day.
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What is "a substitute to the Civil War"?

he was called to fight in the war but sent someone else in his stead... it was a common thing to do back in that time period...


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Hi, Mark Lewis!
I read your message from 14.10.2019 16:26

-----Beginning of the citation-----
The Carraways are something of a clan, and we have a tradition
that we're descended from the Dukes of Buccleuch, but the actual
founder of my line was my grandfather's brother, who came here in
fifty-one, sent a substitute to the Civil War, and started the
wholesale hardware business that my father carries on to-day.
----- The end of the citation -----

What is "a substitute to the Civil War"?

he was called to fight in the war but sent someone else in his
stead... it was a common thing to do back in that time period...

It occurred to me -- at that time you should find a man who was not obligated to the draft himself. But if that man is a strong, healthy guy -- why he is free from the draft? ;)

Bye, Mark!
Alexander Koryagin
english_tutor 2019

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It occurred to me -- at that time you should find a man who was not obligated >to the draft himself. But if that man is a strong, healthy guy -- why he is >free from the draft? ;)

I cannot remember exactly how it worked then, but I am guessing that might include people who did not own property (like servants) or people who were
not citizens of the US.

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Hi, Mark Lewis!
I read your message from 14.10.2019 16:26

This is a test of X-COMMENT-TO kludge - my previous answer were for some reason to all.

Bye, Mark!
Alexander Koryagin
english_tutor 2019

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Hi Alexander -- on Oct 15 2019 at 14:06, you wrote:

It occurred to me -- at that time you should find a man who was not obligated to the draft himself. But if that man is a strong, healthy
guy -- why he is free from the draft? ;)

From https://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h249.html

The Draft Act of 1863 was the first instance of compulsory service in the federal military services. All male citizens, as well as aliens who had declared their intention of becoming citizens, between 20 and 45 were at risk of being drafted. No married man could be drafted until all the unmarried had been taken.

Two methods of evading the draft were available. A man could hire a substitute who would serve in his place, or he could simply pay $300 to get out of the obligation.
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This doesn't directly answer your question, but I'd guess that there may have been a number of ineligible men who were actually fit enough to fight, or for that matter eligible men whose draft number hadn't been selected yet but were eager to fight.

Cheers... Dallas

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Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to mark lewis:

Hi, Mark Lewis!
I read your message from 14.10.2019 16:26

This is a test of X-COMMENT-TO kludge - my previous
answer were for some reason to all.

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Your kludge appears to be working now... as I imagine you can see for yourself. I was able to verify easily what you were concerned about here because my message editor linked this message to previous exchanges regarding the same topic. But much more important... because we have no way of knowing whether or not other people's software can do likewise... is that you told us *in the body of your message* who you were replying to & when they posted the relevant material. AAMOF this system works so well that I get the drift even if, e.g., the author forgets a toggle & the info is in Dutch or Swedish. ;-)

What matters to me is keeping track of who said what to whom, and various methods may be employed. Thanks for showing us two of them.... :-))




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Hi, All!

From "The Gun Seller", by Hugh Laurie

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'So?'
'So a committee of not particularly wise men and women put their fat heads together and
decide on possible courses of action. The list includes doing nothing, doing nothing, doing nothing, or dialling 999 and asking for PC Plod. The only thing they are sure about is they do not like that last course.'
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What is "PC Plod"?

Bye, All!

Alexander Koryagin

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Hi! Alexander,

On 09/09/2020 05:25 PM, you wrote to All:

What is "PC Plod"?

I think the English 'PC' means 'Police Constable'. Therefore, it seems that there is a copper named 'Police Constable Plod', a flatfoot.

Cheers,
Paul.

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