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Copyright (c) by Nick J. Andre, Ltd.
www.dbridgemailer.com

VERSION 4 - FEBRUARY 11 2020
----------------------------

A minor update:

- A slight change in the way deleted Echomail areas are treated.

- Cosmetic fix for Junk filtering

- A new semaphore, DBRIDGE.AO3 (Abort on 32,767) for some legacy BBS
software which cannot toss more than 32,767 messages per cycle. This
semaphore would be used with the other semaphore DBRIDGE.AMR (After Mail
Received). See the revised TECHSPEC file for more information.

Nick Andre
www.dbridgemailer.com

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
* Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)

Hi Nick,

I've been experimenting with D'Bridge for a little while now, and have run into a few issues with it. ;)

[1] When constructing a netmail message, it finds the relevant name with the handy integration of the nodelist, but it changes the zone number to 1 if the original address was written for a zone 2 or 3 destination. Then, when the program is queued/polling mode, it reports "no such address" for those messages and sits on a Hold.

[2] What is the proper way to integrate the Z2PNT nodelist? I've tried just adding it in the same section where the regular full NODELIST is recorded, but the address lookups would then fail. As a consequence, a message to another point address does not seem to be possible.

[3] I've adjusted the display size to about 40 lines, but when reading a message that exceeds 40 lines, and scrolling down, the message content "duplicates" for about 10 lines before the rest of the actual message shows up.


I have a few more questions, but those are the main ones.

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Mans Mazais Eiropas D'Bridge Punkts (2:221/1.59)

On 12 Feb 20 23:29:20, August Abolins said the following to Nick Andre:

I've been experimenting with D'Bridge for a little while now, and have run into a few issues with it. ;)

Ahh, so *you're* the one. 8-)

[1] When constructing a netmail message, it finds the relevant name with th handy integration of the nodelist, but it changes the zone number to 1 if t original address was written for a zone 2 or 3 destination. Then, when the program is queued/polling mode, it reports "no such address" for those messages and sits on a Hold.

Circle back with me on this if the below has been addressed:

[2] What is the proper way to integrate the Z2PNT nodelist? I've tried just adding it in the same section where the regular full NODELIST is recorded,

And

[3] I've adjusted the display size to about 40 lines, but when reading a message that exceeds 40 lines, and scrolling down, the message content

2 and 3 fixed. See next message. Please update your D'Bridge installation.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
* Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)

I've been experimenting with D'Bridge for a little while now..

Ahh, so *you're* the one. 8-)

I had sent you a netmail a few days ago with it. I guess you never got it? It went out crash.



2 and 3 fixed. See next message. Please update your D'Bridge
installation.

Thank you, the screen is nolonger having the duplicate problem.

Thank you. It looks like some mail to Zone3 and Zone2 made it out this time.

I can send to other point addresses. But there is one niggly thing that still does not seem to work. A test message to my .58 point is still sitting as Hold and "unlisted" (even though it came up right during the nodelist looking during the editing process).

A first I thought that the problem was limited to points in my same net 221/1.
But a netmail to 221/1.1 seemed to go out just fine. Meanwhile, 3 messages destined to 221/1.58 have decided to sit on Hold/Unlisted.

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Mans Mazais Eiropas D'Bridge Punkts (2:221/1.59)

On 13 Feb 20 22:09:57, August Abolins said the following to Nick Andre:

Ahh, so *you're* the one. 8-)

I had sent you a netmail a few days ago with it. I guess you never got it? went out crash.

Nope, never got it. We have traded Netmails before though?

A first I thought that the problem was limited to points in my same net 221/1. But a netmail to 221/1.1 seemed to go out just fine. Meanwhile, 3 messages destined to 221/1.58 have decided to sit on Hold/Unlisted.

What is the connection info for .58? Is it listed in Config-Internet?

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
* Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)

On 13 Feb 20 22:09:57, August Abolins said the following to Nick Andre:

I had sent you a netmail a few days ago with it. I guess you never

got it? went out crash.

Nope, never got it. We have traded Netmails before though?

That's a bummer. That explains why netmail to some other destinations never got a reply.

messages destined to 221/1.58 have decided to sit on Hold/Unlisted.

What is the connection info for .58? Is it listed in Config-Internet?

ÚBINKD
³ Transfer mail using BinkD: Windows (No/Windows/OS2/Linux or other)
³ Run BINKD as a server: No (Yes/No/Service)
³ SOCKS 4/5 information:
³ BINKD incoming port: N/A Outgoing port: 24554 ³Simultaneous inbound sessions: N/A Outgoing sessions: 1
³ Seconds between calls: N/A FNZ domain:
³ INA/IBN flag resolving? Yes Obey ICM? No
³ BINKD session information: 2:221/1 fidonet rbb.fidonet.fi U
³ Additional BINKD options: domain fidonet.org alias-for fidonet

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Mans Mazais Eiropas D'Bridge Punkts (2:221/1.59)

On 13 Feb 20 22:09:57, August Abolins said the following to Nick Andre:

I had sent you a netmail a few days ago with it. I guess you never

got it? went out crash.

Nope, never got it. We have traded Netmails before though?

That's a bummer. That explains why netmail to some other destinations never got a reply.

messages destined to 221/1.58 have decided to sit on Hold/Unlisted.

What is the connection info for .58? Is it listed in Config-Internet?

ÚBINKD
³ Transfer mail using BinkD: Windows (No/Windows/OS2/Linux or other)
³ Run BINKD as a server: No (Yes/No/Service)
³ SOCKS 4/5 information:
³ BINKD incoming port: N/A Outgoing port: 24554 ³Simultaneous inbound sessions: N/A Outgoing sessions: 1
³ Seconds between calls: N/A FNZ domain:
³ INA/IBN flag resolving? Yes Obey ICM? No
³ BINKD session information: 2:221/1 fidonet rbb.fidonet.fi U
³ Additional BINKD options: domain fidonet.org alias-for fidonet


Looks like .59 should go somewhere?

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Mans Mazais Eiropas D'Bridge Punkts (2:221/1.59)

On 13 Feb 20 22:09:57, August Abolins said the following to Nick Andre:

I had sent you a netmail a few days ago with it. I guess you never

got it? went out crash.

Nope, never got it. We have traded Netmails before though?

That's a bummer. That explains why netmail to some other destinations never got a reply.

messages destined to 221/1.58 have decided to sit on Hold/Unlisted.

What is the connection info for .58? Is it listed in Config-Internet?

This D'B system is 221/1.59

ÚBINKD
³ Transfer mail using BinkD: Windows (No/Windows/OS2/Linux or other)
³ Run BINKD as a server: No (Yes/No/Service)
³ SOCKS 4/5 information:
³ BINKD incoming port: N/A Outgoing port: 24554 ³Simultaneous inbound sessions: N/A Outgoing sessions: 1
³ Seconds between calls: N/A FNZ domain:
³ INA/IBN flag resolving? Yes Obey ICM? No
³ BINKD session information: 2:221/1 fidonet rbb.fidonet.fi U
³ Additional BINKD options: domain fidonet.org alias-for fidonet


And the system is defined here:

ÚBASIC CONFIGURATION
³ System log level: Terse (None/Terse/Verbose
³ Purge log after: 14 (days)
³ BinkD log: 14 (days)
³ Log filename: H:\DB\DBRIDGE.LOG
³Log PKT filenames? None
³ BinkD log file: H:\DB\DBBINKD.LOG
³ Primary address: 2:221/1.59
³ Alias addresses:

Am I missing something?

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Mans Mazais Eiropas D'Bridge Punkts (2:221/1.59)

On 15 Feb 20 17:56:56, August Abolins said the following to Nick Andre:

messages destined to 221/1.58 have decided to sit on Hold/Unlisted.

What is the connection info for .58? Is it listed in Config-Internet?

This D'B system is 221/1.59

If D'Bridge is configured as a point-system, it may not send mail directly to a point of another system. So point-59 may not send directly to point-58.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
* Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)

On 2/17/2020 4:59 AM, between "Nick Andre : August Abolins":

What is the connection info for. 58? Is it listed in
Config-Internet?

This D'B system is 221/1.59

If D'Bridge is configured as a point-system, it may not send
mail directly to a point of another system. So point-59 may
not send directly to point-58.

Noted.. BUT,

This is not crash or direct..

+READ/EDIT EMAIL------------------------------------------
|Msg # 27 Private, Kill/Sent, Rcvd
|Date: 13 Feb 20 21:18:06 (Reply to #15)
|From: August Abolins on 2:221/1.59 Point 59 in Canada
| To: August Abolins on 2:221/1.58 Point 58 in Canada
|Subj: Re: testing from .58 |---------------------------------------------------------
|
|And this is a REPLY. This should reach .58
|
|

?FMPT 58
?TOPT 59
?INTL 2:221/1 2:221/1
?FLAGS DIR
?MSGID: 2:221/1.58@fidonet e111372c
?PID: OpenXP/5.0.43 (Win32)
?CHRS: ASCII 1
?TZUTC: - 0500
Hello August!

..Just a plain reply to a message I sent from my .58 address.

And it sits in the queue as "Hold/Unlisted".


--
Quoted with Reformator/Quoter. Info = https://tinyurl.com/sxnhux

--- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
* Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)

On 17 Feb 20 16:59:47, August Abolins said the following to Nick Andre:

|And this is a REPLY. This should reach .58
|
|

?FMPT 58
?TOPT 59
?INTL 2:221/1 2:221/1
?FLAGS DIR

The direct flag is present.

Those are the kludges in the "quoted" message that I sent from a .58 system (which is OpenXp).

In the reply from .59 (D'Bridge system) I just quoted everything back.

I can see the confusion with the wording I am using in the test/reply message itself.

I'll construct another one and show you the results.

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Mans Mazais Eiropas D'Bridge Punkts (2:221/1.59)

On 17 Feb 20 16:59:47, August Abolins said the following to Nick Andre:

|And this is a REPLY. This should reach .58
|
|

?FMPT 58
?TOPT 59
?INTL 2:221/1 2:221/1
?FLAGS DIR

The direct flag is present.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
* Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)

I created a fresh message from .59 (D'B)

The programs generates a couple of files in the /PACKETS dir:

N-POINT.01M
Q-POINT.01M

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Mans Mazais Eiropas D'Bridge Punkts (2:221/1.59)

I created a fresh message from .59 (D'B)

The programs generates a couple of files in the /PACKETS dir:

N-POINT.01M
Q-POINT.01M

Crap. The above message got sent while I as constructing some additional info.
Here is what I meant to include:


MAIN: Enter, Reply, Change, List, Kill, Mark, Areas, Next,

+READ/EDIT EMAIL------------------------------------------
ÝMsg # 31 Private, Kill/Sent
ÝDate: 17 Feb 20 12:05:04
ÝFrom: August Abolins on 2:221/1.59 Point 59 in Canada
Ý To: August Abolins on 2:221/1.58 Point 58 in Canada
ÝSubj: testing .59 to .58 Ý---------------------------------------------------------
A test from .59 to .58


Which, produces a /QUEUE/PACKETS/N-POINT.01M:

FMPT 59
TOPT 58
TZUTC: -0500
TID: AA 61.8
A test from .59 to .58

And /QUEUE/PACKETS/Q-POINT.01M:

N M K31 2:221/1.59 2:221/1.58

And the D'B queue looks like:

LOG ACTIVITY
12:25 Adding Points from Boss 2:6055/4 Monday, February 17, 2020
12:25 Adding Points from Boss 2:6055/7 12:26:03
12:25 Adding Points from Boss 2:6056/1
12:25 Adding Points from Boss 2:6078/1 System mode: Id1e
12:25 Adding Points from Boss 2:6090/1 E1apsed time: 00:12
12:25 5555 database records written, 00:00 Next action: outbound ca11
12:25 Bui1ding the outbound queue Destination: 2:221/1
12:25 11 messages scanned, one packed Schedu1ed for: 12:26:09
12:25 2 queue records in database Time remaining: 00:06

QUEUE
2:221/1 1+ 3+ 0 07:26 X ------
2:221/1.58 0 0 0 00:00 M *Ho1d/Unlisted

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Mans Mazais Eiropas D'Bridge Punkts (2:221/1.59)

On 17 Feb 20 12:35:27, August Abolins said the following to Nick Andre:

Crap. The above message got sent while I as constructing some additional info. Here is what I meant to include:

The D'Bridge system you have configured as .59 and you are trying to send a message to .58 correct?

You need to route the message through the Boss if this is the case. You cannot send a message directly from .59 to .58. You can certainly compose a message to any point or system in the Pointlist, thats no problem - but it is important that the message is routed to the Boss.

That is how the mailer was designed and why you are seeing the message
for .58 as Hold/Unlisted because the mailer cannot directly send to another point system.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
* Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)