Greetings, travelers.

I'm building PDP-11 scaled down replica using PiDP-11 kit, which eventually will be able to run multiple OS (emulted by simh) back from the days - from RT-11 to Unix v7 to BSD 2.x.
Does anyone here had real expirience with the PDP-11 machines and can suggest good starting OS?
Any sugggestions are welcome as well as any docs/refrences/etc :)

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Hello Andrei!

15 Oct 21 10:26, you wrote to All:

Does anyone here had real
expirience with the PDP-11 machines and can suggest good starting OS?
Any sugggestions are welcome as well as any docs/refrences/etc :)

RSX-11M-PLUS and RSTS are the best "native" OS available on PDPs, IMHO.
Unix was born on a PDP, so I think that V7 can be also a nice choice. :)

I'm running a SIMH PDP11/93 with RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 with free login on Internet if you want go a walk through.
It runs the TCP/IP stack developed (and still fully maintained) by Johnny Billquist.

Telnet to gnappy.bizzi.org , username guest, password luther, you can login with "hello guest" :)

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hello guest

For the references, I think that the best places are bitsavers, ftp://ftp.update.uu.se , http://mim.update.uu.se , http://www.rsts.org, https://www.9track.net

I'm writing a tutorial on my website http://mimac.bizzi.org , but sorry, it's only in italian. :)

Ciao!
Fabio
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Greetings, traveler.

Telnet to gnappy.bizzi.org , username guest, password luther, you can login with "hello guest" :)

Oh, that's nice! I'll give it a try (actially, already did), but guess need to read some manuals first as I couldn't make it beyond 'dir' :^)

For the references, I think that the best places are bitsavers, ftp://ftp.update.uu.se , http://mim.update.uu.se ,
http://www.rsts.org, https://www.9track.net

Thanks a lot! This a pretty good starting point, will keep digging from there...

I'm writing a tutorial on my website http://mimac.bizzi.org , but
sorry, it's only in italian. :)

Ah, so you won't mind if I bother you time to time when I'll come to running my rig, not just soldering it, would you?



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Hi Andrei!

15 Oct 2021 10:26, from Andrei Dzedolik -> All:

I'm building PDP-11 scaled down replica using PiDP-11 kit, which eventually will be able to run multiple OS (emulted by simh) back from
the days - from RT-11 to Unix v7 to BSD 2.x. Does anyone here had real expirience with the PDP-11 machines and can suggest good starting OS?
Any sugggestions are welcome as well as any docs/refrences/etc :)

Cool!

No sorry ... I am too young for experience with the Dec PDPs.

But I would be very interested in your comments.
I was thinking about it, but I have too little attachment to the PDP and it was too costly for me.

I have the KIM Uno and like it very much ;)

CU, Ricsi

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Hello Andrei!

15 Oct 21 13:31, you wrote to me:

Telnet to gnappy.bizzi.org , username guest, password luther, you
can login with "hello guest" :)

Oh, that's nice! I'll give it a try (actially, already did), but guess need to read some manuals first as I couldn't make it beyond 'dir' :^)

I forgot to mention Bitsavers site, a great source of informations!

http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/

RSX-11M-PLUS 4.x documentation root:

http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/dec/pdp11/rsx11/RSX11Mplus_V4. x/

Try with this first: ;)

http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/dec/pdp11/rsx11/RSX11Mplus_V4. x/1/AA-FD03B-TC_RSX-11M_PLUS_V4.0_Introduction_to_RSX-11M_PLUS_Sep87.pdf

I'm writing a tutorial on my website http://mimac.bizzi.org , but
sorry, it's only in italian. :)

Ah, so you won't mind if I bother you time to time when I'll come to running my rig, not just soldering it, would you?

Yuo're welcome, also for soldering :)

Ciao!
Fabio

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Hello Richard!

15 Oct 21 14:05, you wrote to Andrei Dzedolik:

I have the KIM Uno and like it very much ;)

WOW!!! The grandpa of the Commodores.

It's working?

Ciao!
Fabio

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Hi Fabio!

15 Oct 2021 15:18, from Fabio Bizzi -> Richard Menedetter:

I have the KIM Uno and like it very much ;)

WOW!!! The grandpa of the Commodores.
It's working?

The Kim Uno yes ... but it is NOT a KIM-1 ;)

https://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/kim-uno-summary-c1uuh

From the same guy that makes the PiDP ;)

CU, Ricsi

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Re: PDP-11 OS expirience
By: Andrei Dzedolik to All on Fri Oct 15 2021 10:26 am

Greetings, travelers.

I'm building PDP-11 scaled down replica using PiDP-11 kit, which eventually will be
able to run multiple OS (emulted by simh) back from the days - from RT-11 to Unix v
to BSD 2.x.
Does anyone here had real expirience with the PDP-11 machines and can suggest good
starting OS?
Any sugggestions are welcome as well as any docs/refrences/etc :)

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Not experience with the real thing, but BSD 2.11 is the most complete Unix experience
you can get from such deployment in my opinion. It has the tools we all know and love.

It makes one think thinks through when you realize tools we use on Linux and modern
BSDs were already in use back then.

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Hello!

I also built the PiDP11/70 Replica a few weeks ago and it worked great. Starting OS could be RT-11 or 2.11 BSD. Should be the easiest OS to start
with.

Greetings, travelers.

I'm building PDP-11 scaled down replica using PiDP-11 kit, which eventually will be able to run multiple OS (emulted by simh) back from
the days - from RT-11 to Unix v7 to BSD 2.x.
Does anyone here had real expirience with the PDP-11 machines and can suggest good starting OS?
Any sugggestions are welcome as well as any docs/refrences/etc :)

I also added two real serials to the maschine and connected a VT420 Terminal. So cool.

Playing Adventure or MTREK on an original Terminal is kind of cool.

Regards
Andreas

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On 21 Feb 2022, goto_KCM said the following...

I also built the PiDP11/70 Replica a few weeks ago and it worked great. Starting OS could be RT-11 or 2.11 BSD. Should be the easiest OS to start with.

I also built one some time ago, along with the PiDP-8. They are beautiful replicas and a joy to work with.

The OSes that come with it are pretty interesting, but the DEC and DEC-like ones are quite... unique from a modern perspective. You can see the evolution from OS8 to RT-11 to VMS to CP/M to MS-DOS, with the early ones being
primitive shades of what we have now.

Jeff.

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goto_KCM wrote to Andrei Dzedolik <=-

I also built the PiDP11/70 Replica a few weeks ago and it worked great. Starting OS could be RT-11 or 2.11 BSD. Should be the easiest OS to
start with.

How was the build? I've been tempted to get one of those for my office. One
of the first "real" computers I worked on in college was an 11/70.


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