• Re: Synchronet vs. Mystic

    From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Jas Hud on Tue May 10 15:04:00 2022
    Jas Hud wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    i just showed 2 urls, gamgee.

    Yep, and *ONE* of them showed you listed in Fidonet for 40 days. Facts.

    you are referencing the one system where i couldn't get ahold of
    my feed and applying it to the other one in 2007 where i had a
    fidonet feed for quite a while.

    If you couldn't get ahold of your feed, how'd you get a feed?

    Here is the result of searching Jason Hud on the nodelist search:

    Search by sysop name
    Enter sysop name:
    1:11/228 Jason Hud from Racine WI 2007.01.12 - 2007.02.23 1:124/7013 Bryan Turner-Jason Hud from Garland TX 2007.01.19 - 2012.10.24

    So, like I already said, it shows you listed for about 40 days.

    That other entry, I don't know about. Is 'Bryan Turner' your butt-buddy
    and you were a "co-sysop" (which means you're a nothing)? Did you live
    in Garland TX? Doubt it. For some reason you got that dude to include
    your name on his nodelist entry?

    Now come back and show me some other result from the node search. The
    above is all there is.

    You're a poser, and a liar.



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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Jas Hud on Tue May 10 15:07:00 2022
    Jas Hud wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Same old story with you. Why can't you list these 4 BBSes that are up
    and running and have been for a long time?

    it's very strange that you are asking questions about something
    you already know about.

    Nope, not strange. Simply asking you to list the "4 BBSes" that you
    run. Why wouldn't you do that, just to prove me wrong?

    The answer is that you do not run any BBSes, and are lying.



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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Jas Hud on Tue May 10 15:10:00 2022
    Jas Hud wrote to Gamgee <=-

    here's an old backup of my user file.
    it's raw output but easy to read.
    who's this?

    told you guys he's a liar about not knowing shit about me or my
    bbses.

    I have called a lot of random (and now forgotten) BBSes, like most
    anyone has. Possibly I did call yours and have no idea what it was
    called.

    Why won't you tell what the name(s) of your BBSes are? Is it because
    they're no longer running, and you don't want to admit your irrelvance,
    and that you're an exaggerating bullshitter?

    Yup.



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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Sean Dennis on Wed May 11 07:13:02 2022
    On 10 May 22 22:46:54, Sean Dennis said the following to Nick Andre:

    I can fart and Wilfred van Velzen will guess what I ate.

    He'd eat it out of your ass if he got a chance,

    I'm not into "Dutch ovens"...

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jas Hud on Wed May 11 07:18:44 2022
    On 11 May 22 05:27:42, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

    Dovenet is actually not that bad in that one has to purposely go out of th way to look for flamage. The common theme is you are disliked wherever you

    usually it's just people that are jealous of me. i'm pretty well liked and i've helped people for many many years. I go out of my way to help people technically or with hardware and at times financially.

    In fantasy-land, perhaps...

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jas Hud on Wed May 11 07:20:14 2022
    On 11 May 22 05:28:45, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

    Thats a common pirated key. I've seen it many times over the years.

    oh i think reaper had it and it got cloned over some how.
    there's no reason to really even use a pirated key with irex though.

    Good, so you'll pay for your key or ditch it entirely then?

    Are you absolutely sure Irex doesn't crash if two identical keys are present in the handshake session?

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jas Hud on Wed May 11 07:24:30 2022
    On 11 May 22 05:30:52, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

    well if a guy wrote it down wrong years ago, are we going to call that guy in the nursing home and grill him? or if he's dead do we contact his family appease you? that's pretty stupid.

    Thats not what I was asking.

    Its somewhat "rare" to get a RIN listing. Doesn't matter if your info was written down wrong. There was a reason you couldn't be listed in the correct net in your region. It doesn't matter now but "wrote down wrong" is the most hilarious excuse I've read all morning.

    Moving goalposts must be great exercise for you.

    And yet you did have a node number and...................... you're here.

    you said i didnt have a node number.

    Under Jas Hud you didn't. Which real name is it? Jas? Jason? Time Warrior?

    i'm just playing around here. i'd never join fidonet again.
    it's full of boring people and there's only 2 good echos.

    This one must be on your list because you just can't help but reply...

    I'll politely offer you a node number if you change your mind, just like I do to every other troll encountered over the years. It would be a great way for you to actually show off your 35 years of skillz.

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jas Hud on Wed May 11 07:26:42 2022
    On 11 May 22 05:32:05, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

    When one goes out of their way to do screenshots and editing and whatever prove a point, one has lost the argument.

    it may be hard for YOU, mr windows xp, but took like 1 minute. i use greenshot. with bluring out the other user's data i just selected the area and did a blur.

    If you are polite to people, screenshots are not necessary.

    If you have a sound logical answer to someone's questions, screenshots are
    not necessary.

    If you can take the hint that maybe the other person doesn't care about your screenshots, screenshots are not necessary.

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jas Hud on Wed May 11 07:27:14 2022
    On 11 May 22 05:33:46, Jas Hud said the following to T.J. Mcmillen:

    i dont know why you 2 hate linux so much. it's good stuff.

    Hated it in 1995, hate it now.

    it's improved a lot. but i hate any gui on linux.

    You've mentioned this a few times, as if a GUI is forced upon you in Linux.

    Nick

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Jas Hud on Wed May 11 07:47:22 2022
    Jas Hud wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    it's probably both him not wanting to work on it and not having the source.

    He didn't mention losing the source code. It was a litany of excuses not to fix things.

    These days, BinkD is the way to go but if someone needs FTP, that is easy enough to write a script to do so.

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Jas Hud on Wed May 11 07:55:24 2022
    Jas Hud wrote to T.J. Mcmillen <=-

    it's improved a lot. but i hate any gui on linux.

    I use XFCE on my personal desktop and my laptop. No GUI on my servers.

    -- Sean

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  • From Richard Falken@1:123/115 to Jas Hud on Wed May 11 15:29:08 2022
    Re: Re: Synchronet vs. Mystic
    By: Jas Hud to Richard Falken on Tue May 10 2022 07:31 am

    if you're runing *nix you need to compile it.

    i think these guys here were talking about actually modifying the source. they're saying that synchronet is so configurable that it's not necessary. people still edit the source and have their own little versions.

    probably the one thing people weren't happy about was the file areas and how they handled LFN and listings. there were a few guys playing around with th and maybe some of their ideas or modifications made into the latest release.

    there are some things that are hard coded that i can see people wanting to change. for example some of the color settings are in attr.cfg. that's just little text file that handles SOME of the colors:
    i think it's obvious to most people that these values belong in the text.dat if i was enthusiastic enough about bbsing and we had some users, i'd probabl make this change for my own system. BUT..... if there was another release i'd just be screwed and have to work around their next changes.
    it would be better to get them to accept the changes and then submit it.


    The beauty of open source is that you don't need upstream to cooperate. It is so, so much better if they cooperate, but for most hobby programs, you can just put your fork on some sort of vercion control system that allows merging changes from upstream in an automated way. Not ideal, but serviceable for hobby projects.

    I have posted this elsewhere, but my opinion is that using open source programs is the natural path for BBSing, since BBSing is a hobby, and hobbyism is all about tweaking and looking under the hood of things. Even if you don't make many changes, it is cool to try to figure out how things work.

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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Jas Hud on Wed May 11 13:33:34 2022
    Re: Re: Synchronet vs. Mystic
    By: Jas Hud to Nick Andre on Wed May 11 2022 10:47 am

    i think wayne bell was one of those guys. atleast in the bbs doc he didn't have much to say and seemed like he didnt care. i should see if he has the extended interview on there.

    https://archive.org/details/20020801-bbs-bell
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  • From Richard Falken@1:123/115 to Nick Andre on Wed May 11 15:37:54 2022
    Re: Re: Synchronet vs. Mystic
    By: Nick Andre to Richard Falken on Tue May 10 2022 08:41 am

    On 10 May 22 05:17:09, Richard Falken said the following to Nick Andre:

    From the top of my head: you want the source code if you want to run the software on a
    POSIX compliant Operating System for which the original developer does n care to
    release a binary package.

    Did Rob give specific reasons as to why he wouldn't?

    Nick

    I don't know if so.

    But let's get real, even if you want to make a binary release for Linux, you can't really make a universal one. There are distributions using non-widespread C libraries (ie. they don't use GLIBC) and people is running Linux on so many platforms beyond your regular x86 and X86_64 machines. Even if you released an AppImage launcher, you would only get coverage for the popular Linux variants (which, admitedly, would be like 90% of home users).

    Then you find out users wanting to run your software on niche Operating Systems such as FreeBSD or OpenBSD or Minix or Illumos or whatever have you. It is not reasonable to ask the upstream developer to make a binary package for all of these, and since BBSing is a hobby for software tinkerers, you are guaranteed that somebody will want to run your BBS suite on some weird platform just to see what happens. If the suite is open sourced you can let them have their
    fun, fix and break things, without you having to do any extra work.


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  • From Jas Hud@1:129/305 to Andre Robitaille on Wed May 11 17:06:20 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Andre Robitaille |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1111 May 22 09:32:50|03.

    I'm actually a nice person and the best friend anybody can ever have. i'm not joking! haha

    one thing that people have said to me is that i'm the same person in life as online but it comes out differently.


    Well hopefully we'll get to meet up for lunch or something at some point.


    ah yes, you're in milwaukee too, right.

    it's not likely i'll be meeting people for lunch. i'm working 2 jobs right now.

    trying to fight the build back better and also paying off credit cards .

    ... Reward for a job well done: more work

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Jas Hud on Wed May 11 16:41:00 2022
    Jas Hud wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I use XFCE on my personal desktop and my laptop. No GUI on my servers.

    yeah me too. but then i look at it and think 'why am i using this
    and not windows'

    That's because you're stupid.


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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Nick Andre on Wed May 11 16:43:00 2022
    Nick Andre wrote to Jas Hud <=-

    If you are polite to people, screenshots are not necessary.

    fuck you, little canadian.

    I win.

    Yeah, but look who you're playing against.

    Only half credit.



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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Jas Hud on Thu May 12 09:33:00 2022
    Jas Hud wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    also quitting stuff is good.
    especially when it's stressful and not fruitful. i enjoyed
    taking down my sites. i felt obligated to people and then it was
    gone.

    And there's the answer that you just wouldn't give when asked. So you
    do *NOT* run "4 BBSes" as you have been claiming. You've shut them
    down. You're not a Sysop. Just as I have been saying.

    MRO's (Jason Hud) lying status = confirmed.

    Case closed.


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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Nick Andre on Sat May 14 09:44:04 2022
    To: Nick Andre
    Re: Re: Synchronet vs. Mystic
    By: Nick Andre to Jas Hud on Thu May 12 2022 11:52 am


    i was just showing gamgee what a liar he is. he's huge liar and always has been. he is a big troll who wants attention.

    Yeah but who really cares about screenshots. Who cares if he is or isn't. This isn't Reddit. You say in one message you don't care, but do in another.

    you asked me for proof and i provided it.
    then you stated your bullshit rule that only you on the entire planet follow.

    you know...you could just shut up instead. :D

    If he's flaming you on your board, what difference does it make to us - we're not worthy of being allowed access so we can read the messages

    that's not what's happening. you are making stuff up.

    I really don't see him trolling anywhere. On the other hand you have $ The Millionaire $ with random non-sequitor questions almost every week, and once

    i already explained.

    You do the unoriginal lowercase combative routine like its '93 on a 133t-board all over again which is fine but you're an amateur compared to Mark Lewis.

    you just have poor reading comprehension.
    sorry for not capitalizing! did i break another of your rules?
    lame little man.
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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to T.J. Mcmillen on Sat May 14 09:45:58 2022
    To: T.J. Mcmillen
    Re: Re: Synchronet vs. Mystic
    By: T.J. Mcmillen to Jas Hud on Thu May 12 2022 04:37 pm

    i've been on some of them lately because i'm up nights.
    some of the bbses DISABLE the freaking abort!

    Tell me about it .... I like Danger Bay BBS ... but I HATE all of his ansis ... I just hit ALT-H on logoff ... I don't want to wait 3 minutes for your ansi animations to finish so I can logoff.

    there was another bbs i was on that had the tons of scrollers. and then it froze up on some inter-bbs bbs nodelist (why would i want to know who was on other bbses?). i had to hang up and call again.

    so i did the 'quick' login. then i got a facefull of ansi scrollers again.
    i just told him about the freezeup issue and disconnected.
    i got no email back so he probably doesn't even call his own bbs to see how annoying it is.
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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Dumas Walker on Sat May 14 09:47:18 2022
    To: Dumas Walker
    Re: Re: Synchronet vs. Mystic
    By: Dumas Walker to NICK ANDRE on Thu May 12 2022 04:45 pm

    I remember you pointed that rule out to me once when someone did it to me, but...

    and we all know i follow other people's made up rules :D

    Only two or three people in 20 years felt the need to resort to that with me and all of them quietly vanished off to the sunset months later. All of them mostly trolls in Othernets as well.

    I outlast everyone. one way or another.
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Jas Hud on Wed May 18 19:49:46 2022
    Re: Re: Synchronet vs. Mystic
    By: Jas Hud to Dumas Walker on Sun May 15 2022 16:34:59


    i never understood what pulse dialing was about.
    i thought it was just some dumb feature on phones.

    pulse dialing was making and breaking the connection... the switch gear in the central office would note the circuit coming alive and dying and count the pulses of each cycle to gather the number... do you
    remember seeing in the movies seeing folks hitting the switch hook a bunch of times and then talking to the operator? the switch hook is where you placed the hand piece when you hung up the phone... that
    hitting of the switch hook was doing the same thing as dialing 0... you'd hit it 10 times and then wait for the operator to come on... it still works today, too... at least in areas that still offer pulse
    dialing and have operators...


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Dumas Walker on Wed May 18 19:54:22 2022
    Re: Re: Synchronet vs. Mystic
    By: Dumas Walker to JAS HUD on Tue May 17 2022 16:07:00


    Now, if you had a contraption that would make the touch tone sounds (my uncle had one), you could use a rotary phone by punching the number into the contraption, picking up the receiver, putting the contraptions speaker next to the receiver mic, and then hit the button that told the contraption
    to send the touch tones. So long, that is, as your line supported touch tone dialing.

    Radio Shack sold one... it was the size of a pager and fit neatly in your pocket... some of them could even store several numbers to make it easier to dial them... they worked just as you said... enter the
    number, place the piece near the handset mic, and hit the button... beep beep boop boop ring ring! hehehe...


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  • From Joe Phigan@1:124/5016 to mark lewis on Wed May 18 21:37:42 2022
    Re: Re: Synchronet vs. Mystic
    By: mark lewis to Dumas Walker on Wed May 18 2022 19:54:23

    Radio Shack sold one... it was the size of a pager and fit neatly in your pocket... some of them could even store several numbers to make it easier to

    And if you opened it up and added a 6.49mhz crystal in place of the existing one (with a switch, to retain functionality), you could use the * key to make a nickle tone on a payphone.
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