On 07-26-19 10:43, Bob Ackley <=-
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Many people don't know that during WW II, the US used Navajo tribesmen
in its radio communications in the Pacific Theater. The Japanese
didn't have ANYBODY that could speak or understand native American languages. Drove the Japanese nuts..

It was not just the Navajo. Other nations were used in a similar
manner. The Navajo just seem to have gotten the most exposure in recent
years. I say recent because what they did was still considered
classified for decades after the war ended.

The USA owes them a lot.

I might add that I have a book with descriptions of many of them (and
photos). Also, I once had the opportunity to talk with one during a
trip which included a stop at the Navajo nation. I also talked with his
son, who did not know what his father did in WWII for decades after it
was over.

Dale Shipp
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Many people don't know that during WW II, the US used Navajo

tribesmen

in its radio communications in the Pacific Theater. The

Japanese

didn't have ANYBODY that could speak or understand native

American

languages. Drove the Japanese nuts..

It was not just the Navajo. Other nations were used in a similar
manner. The Navajo just seem to have gotten the most exposure in

recent

years. I say recent because what they did was still considered
classified for decades after the war ended.

The USA owes them a lot.

I might add that I have a book with descriptions of many of them (and photos). Also, I once had the opportunity to talk with one during a
trip which included a stop at the Navajo nation. I also talked with

his

son, who did not know what his father did in WWII for decades after it
was over.

If you're into this sort of thing, a fellow named David Kahn wrote a
book on the subject back in the 1970s, updated in the 1990s,
titled "The Codebreakers." I found it a very good read, but then I was
into that sort of thing back then. Still have the books, though.
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On 07-29-19 17:10, Bob Ackley <=-
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If you're into this sort of thing, a fellow named David Kahn wrote a
book on the subject back in the 1970s, updated in the 1990s,
titled "The Codebreakers." I found it a very good read, but then I
was into that sort of thing back then. Still have the books, though.

Yes, I have that book. He has a few words about the codetalkers (pg.
550 et al). Here is a bit more info on the subject:

https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic-heritage/museum/exhibits/#code_talkers

World War 2: Native American Code Talkers

This exhibit displays the critical work of Native American Code Talkers
during World War II. Having suffered losses in the First World War as a
result of the Germans listening to U.S. communications, the commander of
the U.S. Army's 142nd Infantry Regiment found a solution. Captain
Lawrence overheard two Choctaws speaking in their own language. He
arranged for them to become radio communicators. They used common words
to replace military terms and spoke Choctaw, thus becoming the first
Code Talkers. On October 26, 1918, in northern France's Argonne Forest,
the Choctaws' communications resulted in a completely successful
surprise attack against the Germans. The Army continued the program and
during World War II recruited Comanches, Choctaws, Kiowas, Winnebagos, Seminoles, Navajos, Hopis, Cherokees, and others. The Marine Corps took
the Army work and codified, expanded, refined and perfected it into a
true security discipline, using Navajos exclusively.


Dale Shipp
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