He lost... but continues to try any way he can muster, regardless of its is moral or not, to overturn the results of the election.
The President of America will not and has not accepted the votes of the American people.
I don't get it. I mean, the results are what they are. So what were those people hoping for? A new election with armed election observers under the command of the united nations? The end of democracy?
Democrats changed ballot procedures to enable themselves to guarantee a Biden win, and then the media twisted it into "Trump not accepting the votes of the American people."
But this year, powerful Democrats (members of Joe Biden's political party) made last-minute changes to their voting procedures which turned "election day" into "election 2 weeks." On top of that, other Democrats mass-mailed mail-in-ballots (vote from home ballots) to everyone in the whole country, despite the fact that mail-in voting has been restricted (by law) to military members who are deployed overseas, and to disabled Americans (people who can't leave home.)
Mail in voting is not the evil some would have you believe.
I mailed in my ballot (and my lady friend) in the last provincial
election here. It was easy and painless.
I don't get it. I mean, the results are what they are. So what were those people hoping for? A new election with armed election observers under the command of the united nations? The end of democracy?
Tschoe mit Oe
Gerhard
The President of America will not and has not accepted the votes of t AT> pl> American people.
Democrats changed ballot procedures to enable themselves to guarantee a Bidenwin, and then the media twisted it into "Trump not accepting the votes of theAmerican people."
If I don't get my energy assistance application in by the deadline, the media can write a story about me called "Energy Assistance office
refuses toaccept applications from the American people."
Republicans aren't perfect, but they are unwilling to stoop to such a low level.
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spoke to Paul Lee about Re: My nation, America, t <=-
Democrats changed ballot procedures to enable themselves to guarantee
a Biden win, and then the media twisted it into "Trump not accepting
the votes of the American people."
On 01-07-21 18:39, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Gerhard Strangar about Re: My nation, America, t <=-
Each year we hold elections on election day (Nov 3) and we know
precisely who the winners are early in the morning on Nov 4.
But this year, powerful Democrats (members of Joe Biden's political
party) made last-minute changes to their voting procedures which turned
"election day" into "election 2 weeks." On top of that, other Democrats mass-mailed mail-in-ballots (vote from home ballots) to everyone in the whole country,
despite the fact that mail-in voting has been restricted
(by law) to military members who are deployed overseas, and to disabled Americans (people who can't leave home.)
Liberals will argue that "The votes of the American people should be counted," but there's a double-standard. In a previous election, such
as when Barack Obama (Democrat) defeated Mitt Romney (Republican,)
there was no Republican movement to extend election day, and there was
no Republican movement to mass-mail absentee ballots to the entire
country "to make sure every voice is heard."
Republicans aren't perfect, but they are unwilling to stoop to such a
low level.
I'm done. It's over. 25th him, impeach him, get the winner of the 2020 elect in office ASAP. Is Biden my CHOICE for that office? No; but at this point it cannot be Trump for another moment. It's too dangerous.
1) Media destroys Trump and makes the country think less of him
2) Send mail-in ballot to every American (most Americans - first time ever)
3) Laugh as the brainwashed vote for the guy with the halo over his
head
I'm convinved that the media is who elected Joe Biden, and nothing will stop them from doing it again and again.
Republicans aren't perfect, but they are unwilling to stoop to such a level.
LOL. If you believe that... you don't believe that. You'd be so wrong.
Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change
ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making sure that people could vote?
Just when were those "last minute changes" made?
You over state. At no time were mail in ballots sent to everyone in the country. It varied according to state laws. In some states ballots
Republicans aren't perfect, but they are unwilling to stoop to such a low level.
Instead they have used voter suppression and gerrymanding to push the votes into their favor.
But this year, powerful Democrats (members of Joe Biden's political
party) made last-minute changes to their voting procedures which turned "election day" into "election 2 weeks." On top of that, other Democrats mass-mailed mail-in-ballots (vote from home ballots) to everyone in the whole country, despite the fact that mail-in voting has been restricted (by law) to military members who are deployed overseas, and to disabled Americans (people who can't leave home.)
On 01-08-21 16:41, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: My nation, America, <=-
Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change
ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making sure that people could vote?
Yes, you have accurately answered your own question - but there's more
to it.
Let's suppose that in 2024 there's a conservative movement that does
this: 1) Create a pamphlet that demonizes Democrats, filled with conservative op-eds 2) Staple the propaganda to a mail-in ballot
3) Mail one of these babies to every registered American voter in the world
Will you be ok with that? That's basically what the media and
Democrats did. But here we are saying "We made sure that everybody can vote."
I'll state the obvious - there were no printed liberal pamphlets, but
the media served as that pamphlet.
On 01-08-21 16:50, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: My nation, America, <=-
You're right. I overstated. It happened in some states but not all.
But are you gonna be fine with it if next year's election adheres to
these new policies?
If you think the courts are corrupt, we're back to my suggestion of sending UNO troups to hold proper elections. However, this usually
happens because the _government_ is manipulating the elections, not the opposition.
No, there is not more to it.
The media reports and the ballots were independent things. One hopes
that people are intelligent enough to filter the media reports and look for the facts and the truth. Unfortunately it has been proven that is
not universally true.
The media reported on both sides.
Why not? As I said, there are states which have had voting only by mail in ballots for years. It has worked just fine for them with no evidence of any significant fraud.
2) Send mail-in ballot to every American (most Americans - first time ever)
I had to request a mail-in ballot.
I have not seen or heard about any Republicans trying to interfere with anelection, but I've seen, experienced, and heard about Democrats doing it.
Many didn't. While I agree that this was a fair election, that Biden got more votes and deserves THIS term... I disagree that we should blanket-send Americans, who wouldn't have voted in the first place, ballots like that.
Many didn't. While I agree that this was a fair election, that Biden got
time..] that sending out ballots to EVERY people in a district
was....... a grab at votes for BIDEN.
winning.) - thats BS. The republicans would do ANYTHING; even if it were the exact same thing the dems did this election!
But this year, powerful Democrats (members of Joe Biden's political
party) made last-minute changes to their voting procedures which turned AT>"election day" into "election 2 weeks." On top of that, other Democrats AT>mass-mailed mail-in-ballots (vote from home ballots) to everyone in the AT>whole country, despite the fact that mail-in voting has been restricted AT>(by law) to military members who are deployed overseas, and to disabled AT>Americans (people who can't leave home.)
If there is doubt about the votes being counted correctly, go to court.
If you think the courts are corrupt, we're back to my suggestion of sending
UNO troups to hold proper elections. However, this usually happens because the _government_ is manipulating the elections, not the opposition.
are conflicting. Is it safe to say "It was an ACCURATE election, but sendingout ballots to everyone was a grab at votes for Biden?"
There are no such thing as Republican extremists. I'll bet you a
computer thatyou will never see protests all over the country in favor
of Trump.
On 01-09-21 06:45, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: My nation, America, <=-
No, there is not more to it.
For the first time ever in history, ALL Americans were entitled to
mail-in ballot voting.
That was unfair to the incumbents around the
nation. Suddenly, everyone who's been watching the news all day has a ballot in their hand, where in all of history, they had to walk or
drive to the polls. The abrupt change is not fair to Trump and it's not fair to the 50 or 51% of Americans who voted for him.
What about people who don't have cable? Those people (like me) had 5 channels of liberal broadcast news, but I'm a miracle- I don't listen
to their crap. Guys like you and me will read the news on the internet, but not most Americans.
On 01-09-21 06:57, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: My nation, America, <=-
Why not? As I said, there are states which have had voting only by mail in ballots for years. It has worked just fine for them with no evidence of any significant fraud.
It's not about fraud, it's about fairness. I think you're a great guy,
but it seems like your fine with Trump having an unfair election
Let's start the year off right: Instead of battling each other, let's
work together for the greater good. I already stated that I plan to
On 01-08-21 19:31, Paul Lee <=-
spoke to Aaron Thomas about Re: My nation, America, t <=-
like... I don't think ANYONE should have been voting in
person when there was a pandemic going on, in the country.
It's more detrimental to MY health for you to have done
so...
But I bet I do agree on some things; I don;t think it was right to
BLANKET send out ballots to EVERY citizen (God forbid NON-
citizens!);
I think we should have done NO in-person
voting, well..
However, when you say you don't think republicans would do
anything (i.e. like the dems using LEGAL strategies to
better their odds of winning.) - thats BS. The republicans
would do ANYTHING; even if it were the exact same thing the
dems did this election!
On 01-10-21 00:07, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Paul Lee about Re: My nation, America, t <=-
He hasn't hurt anyone in 4 years, but over the next 2 weeks he's
gonna?
There are no such thing as Republican extremists. I'll bet you a
computer that you will never see protests all over the country in favor
of Trump.
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spoke to Paul Lee about Re: My nation, America, t <=-
He hasn't hurt anyone in 4 years, but over the next 2 weeks he's
gonna?
A police man has died as a direct result of his actions which formented
the invasion of the Capitol.
There are more than 380,000 people dead from Covid. It did not have to
be that bad if he had acted in time.
There are no such thing as Republican extremists. I'll bet you a computer that you will never see protests all over the country in favor of Trump.
What party were the thugs who invaded the Capitol? Or the ones who
almost kidnaped and executed a state governor?
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If you think the courts are corrupt, we're back to my suggestion ofSome members of this governemnt ARE manipulating the elections.
sending UNO troups to hold proper elections. However, this usually
happens because the _government_ is manipulating the elections, not
the opposition.
For the first time ever in history, ALL Americans were entitled to
mail-in ballot voting. That was unfair to the incumbents around the nation. Suddenly, everyone who's been watching the news all day has a ballot in their hand, where in all of history, they had to walk or drive to the polls. The abrupt change is not fair to Trump and it's not fair
to the 50 or 51% of Americans who voted for him.
We can do better.
Oh, I think if the LEOs would have responded to the crowd on Wednesday with violence the way that black people in America have been dealing
with for decades, let alone thru the protests of this summer, you would.
I hope that you and the rest of the nation does that. The events of
last Wednesday showed that not everyone is willing to do that.
A police man has died as a direct result of his actions which formented the invasion of the Capitol.
There are more than 380,000 people dead from Covid. It did not have to
be that bad if he had acted in time.
What party were the thugs who invaded the Capitol? Or the ones who
almost kidnaped and executed a state governor?
Let's first wait for the final report of the OSCE's Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights. I'm expecting it to show up here within
the next two weeks:
https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/usa/456787
How can it be "not fair" if everybody gets the chance to vote? The greek word demokratia means ruling of the people and that's everyone.
If you think the courts are corrupt, we're back to my suggestion of >>sending UNO troups to hold proper elections. However, this usually >>happens because the _government_ is manipulating the elections, notHow did that work out in Belarus?
the opposition.
If you think the courts are corrupt, we're back to my suggestion of >GS>>sending UNO troups to hold proper elections. However, this usually >GS>>happens because the _government_ is manipulating the elections, notSome members of this governemnt ARE manipulating the elections.
the opposition.
Let's first wait for the final report of the OSCE's Office for Democratic
Institutions and Human Rights. I'm expecting it to show up here within the next two weeks: https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/usa/456787
He hasn't hurt anyone in 4 years, but over the next 2 weeks he's
gonna?
A police man has died as a direct result of his actions which formented the
invasion of the Capitol.
There are more than 380,000 people dead from Covid. It did not have to be
that bad if he had acted in time.
There are no such thing as Republican extremists. I'll bet you a >AT>computer that you will never see protests all over the country in
favor of Trump.
What party were the thugs who invaded the Capitol? Or the ones who
almost kidnaped and executed a state governor?
If you think the courts are corrupt, we're back to my suggestion of
sending UNO troups to hold proper elections. However, this usually
happens because the _government_ is manipulating the elections, not the >>> opposition.
How did that work out in Belarus?
What do you mean? There haven't been any UN soldiers, yet.
We can do better.
For sure!
Voting in person really does suck sometimes. It's hardly worth all the >trouble, especially if you're a registered Republican in a Democrat town.
"They don't take kindly."
Here's my idea: Allow electronic voting - but make the voter punch in their >social security # or their driver's license # (or both) to verify identity
and registration status. That way people don't have to get hassled at the polling places, at least not by humans who know your political party affiliation.
I hope that you and the rest of the nation does that. The events of >DS>last Wednesday showed that not everyone is willing to do that.
That was 90 idiots who think life is over because Biden won, or because
Biden allegedly cheated. There's more to election day than the presidential election, and there's more to life than elections.
I know a lot of other conservatives personally,
and none of them are immature or careless enough to go smashing windows on
federal property,
or to take a dump on Pelosi's desk.
Not even if the president told them to - which I don't think he did.
A police man has died as a direct result of his actions which formented >DS>the invasion of the Capitol.to
There are more than 380,000 people dead from Covid. It did not have
be that bad if he had acted in time.
These 2 things are speculative. I don't believe that you can scientifically >blame either of these on Trump or his supporters as a whole.
What party were the thugs who invaded the Capitol? Or the ones who >DS>almost kidnaped and executed a state governor?
It doesn't equate to Joe Biden's Antifa or Joe Biden's BLM. They did a lot
more damage than Trump's dummies who broke a window.
How can it be "not fair" if everybody gets the chance to vote? The greek >GS>word demokratia means ruling of the people and that's everyone.
It's fair but it's not fair. The 2 pandemics, covid-19 and TDS, worked >together to ensure Biden's victory.
If we're going to repair a broken Democracy, why start now? Where was "vote
from home" during the 2012 election?
On 01-10-21 15:53, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: My nation, America, <=-
I hope that you and the rest of the nation does that. The events of
last Wednesday showed that not everyone is willing to do that.
That was 90 idiots who think life is over because Biden won, or
because Biden allegedly cheated. There's more to election day than the presidential election, and there's more to life than elections.
I know a lot of other conservatives personally, and none of them are immature or careless enough to go smashing windows on federal property,
or to take a dump on Pelosi's desk.
Not even if the president told
them to - which I don't
think he did.
On 01-10-21 15:57, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: My nation, America, <=-
A police man has died as a direct result of his actions which formented the invasion of the Capitol.
There are more than 380,000 people dead from Covid. It did not have to
be that bad if he had acted in time.
These 2 things are speculative. I don't believe that you can scientifically blame either of these on Trump or his supporters as a whole.
What party were the thugs who invaded the Capitol? Or the ones who
almost kidnaped and executed a state governor?
It doesn't equate to Joe Biden's Antifa or Joe Biden's BLM. They did a
lot more damage than Trump's dummies who broke a window.
On 01-10-21 21:26, Lee Lofaso <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about My nation, America, <=-
A police man has died as a direct result of his actions which formented the
invasion of the Capitol.
US flags were *not* flown at half-mast after his death. The man
was a patriot, defending this country, from thugs who desecrated everything this country stands for.
On 01-09-21 20:25, Paul Lee <=-
spoke to Aaron Thomas about Re: My nation, America, t <=-
really hope we think, together, and figure out a smarter
way to conduct elections in the future. While I think this
vote got a lot more voters to.. vote, I still think we have
to make sure the votes are from registered, legal voters
and this can't be the best way....
Just recieving mass-mailed envelopes an carte blanche
accepting that they are all correct and valid.
We can do better.
No need for anybody to go through hoops of trouble. Just turn
18 and your done. How hard can that be?
to kill Speaker Pelosi. Those domestic terrorists knew where their
targets were supposed to be, and fully intended to kill them. Not just
None of those people were "conservatives". ALL of them are domestic terrorists who did this country harm. Their actions were dangerous,
and deadly.
This was inciting an insurrection. By the president. That is not
I'm all in favor for voting over the internet.
Or voting with your iphone or other device.
Unfortunately, it was a lot more than 90. I believe that about 100 have been identified and arrested. I'd guess that there were thousands in
the crowds -- most of whom had enough sense not to go inside.
It doesn't equate to Joe Biden's Antifa or Joe Biden's BLM. They did lot more damage than Trump's dummies who broke a window.
Neither of those movements have anything to do with Joe Biden. And
That's re-assuring. Thousands of people were there protesting outside, and 100 idiots decided to break in to the building. That seems like it almost proves Trump's innocence.
Voting in person really does suck sometimes. It's hardly worth all the trouble,
Here's my idea: Allow electronic voting - but make the voter punch in
their social security # or their driver's license # (or both) to
verify identity and registration status.
It's fair but it's not fair. The 2 pandemics, covid-19 and TDS, worked together to ensure Biden's victory.
That may be due to their dear leader having won the last electionWhat do you mean? There haven't been any UN soldiers, yet.If you think the courts are corrupt, we're back to my suggestion ofHow did that work out in Belarus?
sending UNO troups to hold proper elections. However, this usually
happens because the _government_ is manipulating the elections, not
the opposition.
by winning 80+% of the vote, with all his opposition being locked up
in prison or going into exile.
Voting in person really does suck sometimes. It's hardly worth all the trouble,
Here's my idea: Allow electronic voting - but make the voter punch in their social security # or their driver's license # (or both) to verify identity and registration status.
That's re-assuring. Thousands of people were there protesting outside 100 idiots decided to break in to the building. That seems like it al proves Trump's innocence.
Eh? ;)
How do you achieve secrecy in this voting system?
How does the voter know if their vote was counted?
How do you make sure noone adds votes by entering a magic number, using a modified software, modiefied hardware, etc.?
How do you know there are no bugs that miscount the votes?
And how do you make sure people trust in the solutions you found to the problems above?
It's fair but it's not fair. The 2 pandemics, covid-19 and TDS, worked together to ensure Biden's victory.
What's TDS?
On 01-11-21 07:05, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: My nation, America, <=-
Unfortunately, it was a lot more than 90. I believe that about 100 have been identified and arrested. I'd guess that there were thousands in
the crowds -- most of whom had enough sense not to go inside.
That's re-assuring. Thousands of people were there protesting outside,
and 100 idiots decided to break in to the building. That seems like it almost proves Trump's innocence.
Just recieving mass-mailed envelopes an carte blanche
accepting that they are all correct and valid.
They do not carte blanche accept that they are all correct and valid.
They check the signature on the outside envelope and verify against the voter roles.
We can do better.
How?
If it was a coordinated attack, planned by the president, how is it that not a single Demorcrat was injured by thousands of "Republican Rebels?"
What do you mean? There haven't been any UN soldiers, yet.If you think the courts are corrupt, we're back to my suggestion ofHow did that work out in Belarus?
sending UNO troups to hold proper elections. However, this usually
happens because the _government_ is manipulating the elections, not >>>>> the opposition.
That may be due to their dear leader having won the last election
by winning 80+% of the vote, with all his opposition being locked up
in prison or going into exile.
So far, we're only at the step of not accepting the vote, damaning new ones
under international supervision and imposing sanctions. Sanctions wouldn't work for the USA, they call it tarriffs and impose them on themselves. :-)
Voting in person really does suck sometimes. It's hardly worth all the >AT>trouble,
You're free to move to a nation where you don't need to vote. ;-)
Here's my idea: Allow electronic voting - but make the voter punch in
their social security # or their driver's license # (or both) to verify AT>identity and registration status.
How do you achieve secrecy?
How do you know the software isn't buggy?
How do voters know if their vote was counted?
How do voters know that it's impossible to add some votes with a "magic
number"?
How do you make sure, voters trust your system?
It's fair but it's not fair. The 2 pandemics, covid-19 and TDS, worked >AT>together to ensure Biden's victory.
What's TDS?
to kill Speaker Pelosi. Those domestic terrorists knew where their >LL>targets were supposed to be, and fully intended to kill them. Not just
They actually didn't know.
They walked right by an unlocked door that would have swung open to the
meeting.
None of those people were "conservatives". ALL of them are domestic >LL>terrorists who did this country harm. Their actions were dangerous,
and deadly.
I think you're right.
I bet they were liberals tools paid for by the Joe Biden campaign.
A police man has died as a direct result of his actions which formented the >>invasion of the Capitol.
US flags were *not* flown at half-mast after his death. The man
was a patriot, defending this country, from thugs who desecrated >LL>everything this country stands for.
Flags were flown at half mast.
This was inciting an insurrection. By the president. That is not
This is the exploitation of a deceased police officer for political gain.
I'm all in favor for voting over the internet.
Or voting with your iphone or other device.
Over the internet, maybe. But I don't think Republicans will agree to
casting votes on a liberal device that comes pre-packaged with goodies from Apple or Google.
No need for anybody to go through hoops of trouble. Just turn
18 and your done. How hard can that be?
Yes, now you're talking! That is a good point. If you're old enough to vote, >then you should be able to walk out the door and vote without having to wait >for some stupid registration card that the poll workers never look at
anyway.
There were well more than 100 who broke into the building. The figure
of about 100 is just those who have been identified and arrested so far. More to come.
outside AI> AT> 100 idiots decided to break in to the building. ThatThat's re-assuring. Thousands of people were there protesting
seems like it al AI> AT> proves Trump's innocence.
Eh? ;)
If it was a coordinated attack, planned by the president, how is it that not
a single Demorcrat was injured by thousands of "Republican Rebels?"
How do you achieve secrecy in this voting system?using a GS> modified software, modiefied hardware, etc.?
How does the voter know if their vote was counted?
How do you make sure noone adds votes by entering a magic number,
How do you know there are no bugs that miscount the votes?the
And how do you make sure people trust in the solutions you found to
problems above?
I can provide simple solutions for this - but I'm no expert obviously. I
wish
I could count on the US govt to make it happen, but as far as I know, they haven't come together on any sweeping changes to our voting system.
Instead,
states are doing whatever they want - and I really mean whatever they want
-
without any obvious input from residents.
worked GS> AT> together to ensure Biden's victory.It's fair but it's not fair. The 2 pandemics, covid-19 and TDS,
What's TDS?
Trump Derrangement Syndrome. It's an irrational fear of his accent, his >intentions, a jealousy of his personal success and wealth, and a jealousy of >how well his policies have helped the American people economically.
accepting that they are all correct and valid. DS> DS> They do not carte blanche accept that they are all correct and valid.Just recieving mass-mailed envelopes an carte blanche DS> PL>
They check the signature on the outside envelope and verify againstthe
voter roles.
We can do better.How?
So my girlfriend and I got into this topic this week... I understand that
this time around we reached many more legal voters than we normally would. And I am all for that - I'm all for bringing voters who are otherwise disenfranchised from the voting process, to it. However... I still have
some hangup with mass mailing every registered voter a mail-in ballot.
On normal years, unless you request a mail-in ballot, or live in a mail-in
only state, you have to physically go in person and vote. You show your ID. You vote. You get checked off, so that you can't vote twice.
I heard your reply that they 'check signatures' but I have heard this
disputed in the news... and I DO think we can do better.
In a non-pandemic year, I think the process of in-person voting and mailing
to registered voters who show a reason for the mail-in need, is great.
I do think that even in a pandemic, folks should have to raise their hand or
otherwise request a mail-in ballot.
If we mass-mail all registered voters, it DOES increase the probability that
say 'the man of the house' could mark whatever side they prefer and 'vote' for all in the household, that nursing homes or other similar situations
can happen like that... and that there is some middle ground that is better than what we did this year.
That being said, I think we did an awesome thing this year...
I just don't like the mass mail-ins. Period.
Six people are dead, including two capitol police officers. Trump
has blood on his hands, and everybody knows it.
Trump told them to storm the Capitol building. So they did.
That is inciting an insurrection.
Joe Biden hitmen wearing MAGA hats? I don't think so.
Why have age restrictions at all? We have automatic voter registration now, so why wait until someone turns 18? We can do it the moment a
baby is born. That way, everybody in America will have the right to
vote, with no more age discrimination. What do you say about that?
You are being silly. Voter registration is for individuals only.
Entire families cannot be registered as a unit. And people can only
vote as individuals, not as entire families or groups of people.
When filing taxes, one can claim to be 'head of household'.
But that is not the same as voting for everybody in the family.
What silly nonsense.
On 01-12-21 00:23, Paul Lee <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Mail In ballots <=-
I do think that even in a pandemic, folks should have to
raise their hand or otherwise request a mail-in ballot.
On 01-12-21 07:01, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: My nation, America, <=-
There were well more than 100 who broke into the building. The figure
of about 100 is just those who have been identified and arrested so far. More to come.
The impeachment seems pointless to me.
Doesn't it bother you that there are things we need from the federal
govt more than impeachment of Trump, but all they wanna do is point fingers at Trump day after day?
All the stuff that Trump did wrong in his "weak response" to covid -
why don't we fix some of that stuff? All international travel should be closed, but it's not. Why don't Congress close international travel to help fight covid? Because we're too busy with impeachment?
There have been complaints about the vaccine distribution - we don't
need a president to dream that up on his own - why doesn't Congress
write a bill? Impeachment?
On 01-12-21 15:57, Paul Lee <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Mail In ballots <=-
I'd be more apt to be fine with it if we all voted online and used 2FA with the individuals cell phones. IMO thats more safegaurded
than PAPER ballots. Ick.
In other words you are saying that Trump and all future Presidents
should be given a free pass to incite insurrection without any penalty?
Doesn't it bother you that there are things we need from the federal govt more than impeachment of Trump, but all they wanna do is point fingers at Trump day after day?
He deserves that by his actions.
Actually, it would not be a normal function for Congress. It should
fall under the Executive branch. But he has ignored that.
Six people are dead, including two capitol police officers. Trump
has blood on his hands, and everybody knows it.
Everybody wants that to be the truth.
Trump told them to storm the Capitol building. So they did.
That is inciting an insurrection.
That's twisting his words.
I don't believe he said "storm the Capitol building." "Go down there and
storm the Capitol building." Nice try!
Joe Biden hitmen wearing MAGA hats? I don't think so.
You're hilarious! Like someone can't put an enemy hat on to blend in?
Why have age restrictions at all? We have automatic voter registration >LL>now, so why wait until someone turns 18? We can do it the moment a
baby is born. That way, everybody in America will have the right to >LL>vote, with no more age discrimination. What do you say about that?
Sounds good! My kids know who to vote against.
You are being silly. Voter registration is for individuals only.
Entire families cannot be registered as a unit. And people can only >LL>vote as individuals, not as entire families or groups of people.
When filing taxes, one can claim to be 'head of household'.But that is not the same as voting for everybody in the family.
What silly nonsense.
If you don't think those instances arise, much more than if folks vote in
person, I think you're being silly.
Dad is 55 years old and Pro Trump, but has a 19year old daughter and a 22
year old son. His 57 year old wife also votes; Dad is a bastard and used to make the kids pick their own switches for whippings. When the ballots come in, Dad checks them all and sends them off. That happens. As does
shenanigans at nursing homes, mentally assisted homes, etc etc etc. Its
just something that we don't need to ADD. Why would we?
I'd be more apt to be fine with it if we all voted online and used 2FA with
the individuals cell phones. IMO thats more safegaurded than PAPER ballots. Ick.
Its so 1980.
How do you achieve secrecy in this voting system?I can provide simple solutions for this
How does the voter know if their vote was counted?
How do you make sure noone adds votes by entering a magic number,
using a modified software, modiefied hardware, etc.?
How do you know there are no bugs that miscount the votes?
And how do you make sure people trust in the solutions you found to
the problems above?
The articles of impeachment filed against Trump spell it out
clearly, for all to understand. Read it. Only four pages long.
That means pregnant women should be allowed to vote by proxy.
Then stop writing here and build that system, because noone else knows
how to do that.
I do think that even in a pandemic, folks should have to
raise their hand or otherwise request a mail-in ballot.
That is what happened in my state. They mailed an application for a mail-in ballot to all registered voters. One then needed to fill that
out and send it in to get the actual ballot delivered.
I think that method gets to all registered voters and gives them a
better opportunity to cast their vote.
Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
There were well more than 100 who broke into the building. The figur of about 100 is just those who have been identified and arrested so f More to come.
The impeachment seems pointless to me.
In other words you are saying that Trump and all future Presidents
should be given a free pass to incite insurrection without any penalty? IMO, impeachment of Trump serves to send notice that what he did is not acceptable. To be silent sends notice that what he did can be tolerated without consequences at any time in the future. In addition,
impeachment would prevent him from seeking any federal office in the future.
Doesn't it bother you that there are things we need from the federal govt more than impeachment of Trump, but all they wanna do is point fingers at Trump day after day?
He deserves that by his actions.
All the stuff that Trump did wrong in his "weak response" to covid - why don't we fix some of that stuff? All international travel should closed, but it's not. Why don't Congress close international travel t help fight covid? Because we're too busy with impeachment?
Trump could close international travel (if it is not already closed).
There have been complaints about the vaccine distribution - we don't need a president to dream that up on his own - why doesn't Congress write a bill? Impeachment?
Actually, it would not be a normal function for Congress. It should
fall under the Executive branch. But he has ignored that.
I'd be more apt to be fine with it if we all voted online and used 2F with the individuals cell phones. IMO thats more safegaurded
than PAPER ballots. Ick.
What do you mean by 2FA? Is it something that is a smart phone ap? I don't have a smart phone.
This is now, with many more options being available for voting.
We should go further, and increase those options, as well as expand
the voting rights to include ALL Americans, including those who are
doing time in prison.
--Lee
Show me evidence of Trump having planned an attack on the Capitol - that's all I need to see.
Congratulations Lee, these Articles of Impeachment say exactly the same thing as you - very vaguely describing Trump's involvement, but clearly indicating that Congress will do anything they can to keep their laundry from coming clean.
On 01-13-21 12:13, Paul Lee <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: My nation, America, <=-
And furthermore, correct me if I'm wrong, if an impeachment
is successful he can't serve in government again... I
I think we still have a long way to go with covid. People
don't understand that these vaccines.. are more like a flu
vaccine in the fact that you'd need to get them once a year
[or so] and they would have to be tweaked for future
versions of Corona. This vaccination process isn't a one-
and-done type of thing. Coronavirus is respiratory, more
like the flu than polio.
What you say is almost true. The Coronavirus vacination is more like a two and done. There are reports of a member of Congress who was
recently vacinated but then tested positive after being in close
quarters with other members who refused to wear a mask.
What ever happened to "Law & Order"? You were telling me a short time
ago that you wanted law and order. So what's the issue?
I don't believe Trump committed a crime. I am for law and order, but based on what I've seen there's no case against him - just more Trump Derrangement Syndrome. When's the last time you say Democrats do anything besides oppose the president? If now isn't the time to give it a rest, it never will be.
10 years from now, 90 year old Nancy Pelosi will still be impeaching Trump - and Chis Cuomo will still be there backing her up.
opposing him or that his supporters did what they did, and will continue to do what they are doing. There is a place for that in Donald Trumps America.
I think we still have a long way to go with covid. People
don't understand that these vaccines.. are more like a flu
vaccine in the fact that you'd need to get them once a year
[or so] and they would have to be tweaked for future
versions of Corona. This vaccination process isn't a one-
and-done type of thing. Coronavirus is respiratory, more
like the flu than polio.
What you say is almost true. The Coronavirus vacination is more like a two and done. There are reports of a member of Congress who was
recently vacinated but then tested positive after being in close
quarters with other members who refused to wear a mask.
That is what happened in my state. They mailed an application for a
mail-in ballot to all registered voters. One then needed to fill that
out and send it in to get the actual ballot delivered.
I think that method gets to all registered voters and gives them a
better opportunity to cast their vote.
On 01-14-21 16:57, Paul Lee <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Vacinations <=-
But I'm speaking of the fact that a Covid vaccine doesn't
last a lifetime, not even several years - no one KNOWS
exactly, but its FAIRLY safe to say it will last somewhere
around a year. That being said, once we vaccinate our
entire country, it seems like Covid will be more like the
influenza FLU and come back every year - Americans will
need to be vaccinated against it [around] once a year.
On 01-14-21 20:10, Brian Klauss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Mail In ballots <=-
The argument against mail-in ballots is that more Republicans tend to
vote at polling locations instead of mailing in their ballots.
Democrats tends to prefer the opportunity to sit at home
and review their ballots and submit them via the mail.
This was proven in this election when traditional
Republican states or those that carried Trump four years
ago went Democratic (at least for the President).
I like my mail-in ballot. I actually take it to one of my
county's drop off boxes (we have like 20 of them).
On 01-15-21 01:54, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Alan Ianson about Re: My nation, America, <=-
The American people don't care about Trump anymore. We want to move forward, but Nancy & Chuck want to stigmatize the Republican party for something that Trump did which is also something that Biden did. Biden doesn't care about impeaching Trump, because he's not a player hater.
Just when did Biden instigate an invasion of the national capitol building, or any other sort of violence for that matter?
The American people don't care about Trump anymore.
We want to move forward, but Nancy & Chuck want to stigmatize the Republican party for something that Trump did
which is also something that Biden did. Biden doesn't care about impeaching Trump, because he's not a player hater.
This is now, with many more options being available for voting.
We should go further, and increase those options, as well as expand
the voting rights to include ALL Americans, including those who are >LL>doing time in prison.
Convicted criminals, now? Jesus help us...
The articles of impeachment filed against Trump spell it out
clearly, for all to understand. Read it. Only four pages long.
Show me evidence of Trump having planned an attack on the Capitol - that's
all I need to see.
That means pregnant women should be allowed to vote by proxy.
I'm fine with all the voting changes.
Now we know that all Americans can and should expect to vote by mail.
Next year we'll make a comeback.
The argument against mail-in ballots is that more Republicans tend to vote at polling locations instead of mailing in their ballots.
That Republican preference for voting at polling locations was possibly because of the words of their supreme leader who kept claiming that mail
in ballots were not safe.
Democrats tends to prefer the opportunity to sit at home
and review their ballots and submit them via the mail.
Because it was easier, and because it was less risky with respect to
Covid. Since I am in a high risk category, I would feel very hesitant
to go to a walk up polling place, especially since there would be many people there who would not be observing safe ruls of mask and distance.
This was proven in this election when traditional
Republican states or those that carried Trump four years
ago went Democratic (at least for the President).
The real proof was that the early returns from polling stations seemed
to be mostly Republican or split, but then the mail in ballots were
giving results of 75% or more for Democratic candidates.
I like my mail-in ballot. I actually take it to one of my
county's drop off boxes (we have like 20 of them).
That is what I did.
The American people don't care about Trump anymore. We want to move >AT>forward, but Nancy & Chuck want to stigmatize the Republican party for >AT>something that Trump did which is also something that Biden did. Biden >AT>doesn't care about impeaching Trump, because he's not a player hater.
Just when did Biden instigate an invasion of the national capitol
building, or any other sort of violence for that matter?
understand that these vaccines.. are more like a flu DS>PL>vaccine in the fact that you'd need to get them once a year DS>PL>[or so] and they would have to be tweaked for future DS>PL>versions of Corona. This vaccination process isn't a one-I think we still have a long way to go with covid. People DS>PL>don't
the flu than polio.and-done type of thing. Coronavirus is respiratory, more DS>PL>like
like aWhat you say is almost true. The Coronavirus vacination is more
two and done. There are reports of a member of Congress who was >DS>recently vacinated but then tested positive after being in close >DS>quarters with other members who refused to wear a mask.
I think you're making reference to the 2-part vaccine by one of the
companies, but thats not what I'm talking about... Yes, I understand your point - that the vaccine that requires 2 shots means you are still susceptible until you receive [And probably some amount of time after that 2nd dose.] both parts...
But I'm speaking of the fact that a Covid vaccine doesn't last a lifetime,
not even several years - no one KNOWS exactly, but its FAIRLY safe to say
it will last somewhere around a year. That being said, once we vaccinate
our entire country, it seems like Covid will be more like the influenza FLU and come back every year - Americans will need to be vaccinated against it [around] once a year.
On 01-15-21 09:52, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: My nation, America, <=-
Just when did Biden instigate an invasion of the national capitol building, or any other sort of violence for that matter?
When he bailed rioters out of jail that was an attack on the American people. The law didn't matter to Joe Biden's campaign, it only
mattered that he pay the
bail for the violent protesters who helped elect him.
I've never seen a ballot kill 6 peopleThe American people don't care about Trump anymore. We want to move >AT>forward, but Nancy & Chuck want to stigmatize the Republican party for >AT>something that Trump did which is also something that Biden did. Biden >AT>doesn't care about impeaching Trump, because he's not a player hater.
Just when did Biden instigate an invasion of the national capitol >building, or any other sort of violence for that matter?
Voting is a violent act. And he found 8 million more triggers
than his opponent. And that is what caused such a bloody mess at
the Capitol Building. So please do not make this all Trump's
fault. We all know better than that.
--Lee
And you know this how? Please tell, Mr Expert. Nobody else seems
to know. Not even Dr Fauci or Dr Birx or any of those other medical professionals with multiple PhD's. After all, this is a novel
coronavirus. Nobody in the entire world has any immunity. So how
did you come to the conclusion that Mr Expert knows all?
--Lee
forThe American people don't care about Trump anymore. We want to move >AT>forward, but Nancy & Chuck want to stigmatize the Republican party
Bidensomething that Trump did which is also something that Biden did.
hater.doesn't care about impeaching Trump, because he's not a player
Just when did Biden instigate an invasion of the national capitol >building, or any other sort of violence for that matter?than his opponent. And that is what caused such a bloody mess at
Voting is a violent act. And he found 8 million more triggers
the Capitol Building. So please do not make this all Trump's
fault. We all know better than that.
--Lee
I've never seen a ballot kill 6 people
And you know this how? Please tell, Mr Expert. Nobody else seems
to know. Not even Dr Fauci or Dr Birx or any of those other medical >LL>professionals with multiple PhD's. After all, this is a novel >LL>coronavirus. Nobody in the entire world has any immunity. So how
did you come to the conclusion that Mr Expert knows all?
I'm confused.
As this is what me and my colleagues are talking about daily.
While yer right that no one KNOWS how long a vaccine will last,
it certainly.. almost laughably, if you're insinuating that its a polio-type
lifetime lasting vaccine, isn't much longer than a year.
Sure we don't know -
but we shouldn't be mental midgets and think that this round of vaccinations
is the end all cure all.
Derpy derp. I figured L.L. could at least be that cynical.
https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/usa/456787Please keep us updated on this. What a great topic for debate.
it certainly.. almost laughably, if you're insinuating that its a polio-t
lifetime lasting vaccine, isn't much longer than a year.
We do not even know if immunity will last that long. And not everybody
who has been vaccinated will become immune. The effectiveness rate is high, at 94%-95%. But that still leaves 5% or 6% who remain at risk.
On 01-15-21 09:52, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: My nation, America, <=-
Just when did Biden instigate an invasion of the national capitol
building, or any other sort of violence for that matter?
When he bailed rioters out of jail that was an attack on the American people. The law didn't matter to Joe Biden's campaign, it only
mattered that he pay the
bail for the violent protesters who helped elect him.
Your statement is not completely accurate. I did a quick search and DS>found it being said by a few right wing sites such as Fox News and DS>Breitbart claimed that Biden did that -- but it was disputed by other DS>sites. What I also found was that some campaign staffers and Kamala DS>contributed to such a fund as a protest against the cash bail system.
Leftie democrats are quick to deny the truth of things that embarass
them or their idiotic notions (like being against the cash bail system), but notice how they ignore the instances where a dangerous criminal is released (using their critera of `cashless' bail or `no' bail) and the
one released goes on to commit murder or other mayhem?
On 01-07-21 17:29, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Paul Lee about Re: My nation, America, t <=-
Democrats changed ballot procedures to enable themselves to guarantee a Biden win, and then the media twisted it into "Trump not accepting the votes of the American people."
Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change
ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making sure that people could vote?
Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-
On 08 Jan 2021, Dale Shipp said the following...
On 01-07-21 17:29, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Paul Lee about Re: My nation, America, t <=-
Democrats changed ballot procedures to enable themselves to guarantee a Biden win, and then the media twisted it into "Trump not accepting the votes of the American people."
Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change
ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making sure that people could vote?
You might understand this when and if you pick up the last Time
Magazine. It's all out and is available for all to read.
The secret history of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020 election.
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Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making sure th people could vote?
Gregory Deyss wrote to Vague <=-
Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making sure th people could vote?
Because Trump was leading in every battleground state that there was
right up to midnight and then something happened in the early hours
didn't it....
Fox News came out of the gate in the early hours on election night as
they told us all that were watching the election results would like different this time around. They made it sound like all the Democrats
were voting by mail and voting early and then the Republicans would be voting later as they would be going to the polls.
I still don't know what the problem was with voting at the polls
because 30 million go to Wal*Mart every day of the week.
You might to consider using your "REAL NAME" here in fidonet land.
and clean up the message and learn not to capture every blessed line.
It's messy as it is "vague" not tidy and unclean.
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On 02-08-21 20:28, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: My nation, America, <=-
Democrats changed ballot procedures to enable
themselves to guarantee
a Biden win, and then the media twisted it into "Trump not accepting
the votes of the American people."
Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change
ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making sure that people could vote?
You might understand this when and if you pick up the last Time
Magazine. It's all out and is available for all to read.
The secret history of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020
election.
On 02-09-21 18:49, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Vague about Re: My nation, America, <=-
Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change
ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was
it by making sure th
people could vote?
Because Trump was leading in every battleground state that there was
right up to midnight and then something happened in the early hours
didn't it....
Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-
You might understand this when and if you pick up the last Time
Magazine. It's all out and is available for all to read.
The secret history of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020 election.
I love the word "Saved". It sounds like it was a good thing to subvertI also love how the article says the election was not rigged then tells us how it was rigged.
the will of the American people to put a bunch of ignorante Elites in power.
Ron Lauzon wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-
Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-
You might understand this when and if you pick up the last Time
Magazine. It's all out and is available for all to read.
The secret history of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020 election.
I love the word "Saved". It sounds like it was a good thing to subvert the will of the American people to put a bunch of ignorante Elites in power.
The secret history of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020 electio
I love the word "Saved". It sounds like it was a good thing to subvert the will of the American people to put a bunch of ignorante Elites in power.
Are we talking about Pennsylvania changing their mail-in voting rules?
I love the word "Saved". It sounds like it was a good thing to subver the will of the American people to put a bunch of ignorante Elites in power.
I also love how the article says the election was not rigged then tells
us how it was rigged.
What do you think of this Malarkey?Oh I agree.. Also if you confront any of the people that proclaim "Trump is a racist" with evidence to the contrary then its just because he had pictures with some famous black people doesnt mean he is not racist and you tell them multiple racist things Biden has done its that was in the past people can change. I have yet to have any of them tell me a single thing Trump has said or done that shows he is racist. I also understand that in person attendance at the Super Bowl was limited but how is it then when Biden gave his speech everyone booed. Out of 80 million people that allegedly voted for him not 1 was at the superbowl?
Oh I agree.. Also if you confront any of the people that proclaim "Trump is a racist" with evidence to the contrary
https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/usa/456787
Oh I agree.. Also if you confront any of the people that proclaim "Tr is a racist" with evidence to the contrary
There is no evidence to the contrary.. ;)
Let us know when you'd like to see evidence of Biden being racist. That's something I've linked to in here about a dozen times already.
Let us know when you'd like to see evidence of Biden being racist. Th something I've linked to in here about a dozen times already.
Yes, I've seen your links but I don't see Biden as a racist.
Donald Trump is a racist, clearly, and more.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-
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Let us know when you'd like to see evidence of Biden being racist. Th something I've linked to in here about a dozen times already.
Yes, I've seen your links but I don't see Biden as a racist.
Donald Trump is a racist, clearly, and more.
Everyone is a racist of some sort, but not everyone leaves so much evidence of it that you can see it from space. Joe Biden voted for segregation when he was senator. Is that racist?
Then he said "I don't want my kids going to school in a racial jungle." There are a lot of kids in the USA with parents from "the jungles" of
the world. Cost Rica is mostly jungle. Should Costa Rican immigrants
feel good about sending their kids to school with Biden's kids?
William Williams wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-
I love the word "Saved". It sounds like it was a good thing to subvert
the will of the American people to put a bunch of ignorante Elites in power.
I also love how the article says the election was not rigged then tells
us how it was rigged.
Everyone is a racist of some sort,
but not everyone leaves so much evidence of it that you can see it from space.
Joe Biden voted for segregation when he was senator. Is that racist?
Joe Biden voted for segregation when he was senator. Is that racist?
No, that was something else all together.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Vague <=-
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Biden became a Senator in 1972. The Civil Rights act was 1964. Biden was only 22 and just out of law schol at the time. So, this is false.
Joe Biden sided with segregationists who wanted to keep black students
out of white classrooms. He supported bussing. He even put Kamala on a
bus to some black school several miles away from her home because he "didn't want his kids going to school in a racial jungle." But Kamala
is more into money and power than she is into holding a grudge.
his children would "grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle".
That's not even how he said it. Did you see the video?
Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-
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Joe Biden voted for segregation when he was senator. Is that racist?
No, that was something else all together.
Not racist, but simply just a way to keep blacks out of white
classrooms.
changeJust what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats
sure th Va> DS> people could vote?ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making
Because Trump was leading in every battleground state that there was right
up to midnight and then something happened in the early hours didn't it....
Fox News came out of the gate in the early hours on election night as they >told us all that were watching the election results would like different
this
time around. They made it sound like all the Democrats were voting by mail
and voting early and then the Republicans would be voting later as they
would
be going to the polls.
I still don't know what the problem was with voting at the polls because 30
million go to Wal*Mart every day of the week.
You might to consider using your "REAL NAME" here in fidonet land. and clean
up the message and learn not to capture every blessed line.
It's messy as it is "vague" not tidy and unclean.
Oh I agree.. Also if you confront any of the people that proclaim "Trump >WW>is a racist" with evidence to the contrary
There is no evidence to the contrary.. ;)
<My nation, America, took over Congress.>
https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/usa/456787
The final report is available for download: https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/7/7/477823_0.pdf
Let us know when you'd like to see evidence of Biden being racist.
That's something I've linked to in here about a dozen times already.
Yes, I've seen your links but I don't see Biden as a racist.
Donald Trump is a racist, clearly, and more.
racist. Th AI> AT> something I've linked to in here about a dozen times already.Let us know when you'd like to see evidence of Biden being
Yes, I've seen your links but I don't see Biden as a racist.
Donald Trump is a racist, clearly, and more.
Everyone is a racist of some sort, but not everyone leaves so much evidence
of it that you can see it from space. Joe Biden voted for segregation when
he was senator. Is that racist?
Then he said "I don't want my kids going to school in a racial jungle."
There are a lot of kids in the USA with parents from "the jungles" of the world. Cost Rica is mostly jungle. Should Costa Rican immigrants feel good about sending their kids to school with Biden's kids?
There is no evidence to the contrary.. ;)
Evidence? What evidence? Certainly there must be evidence.
If not, then at least alternative evidence ...
In 1977 Biden thought that manditory busing would be chaotic. He said without orderly integration, his children would "grow up in a jungle,
the jungle being a racial jungle".
NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo thanks you.
NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo thanks you.
I do not think that Cuomo should thank me just yet.
I do not think that Cuomo should thank me just yet.
He thanks the people of NY after every election.
However, some of his colleagues in the state legislature
want to remove his emergency powers. Even though they
are set to expire on April 30.
I do not think that Cuomo should thank me just yet.However, some of his colleagues in the state legislature
He thanks the people of NY after every election.
want to remove his emergency powers. Even though they
are set to expire on April 30.
You have a good point! It's just a diversion to make it look like people >actually had the cajones to argue with Cuomo. They don't. They know they're >only enabling him even more.
CNN has even gotten into the act, banning Chris from having his
brother Andrew on the show. What a bummer.
One day, all the liberals are gonna crap themselves when they read "Cuomo impeached!" in the headlines. They never saw it coming because their handlers at CNN trained them into thinking that "Cuomo helped nursing home residents."
Meanwhile, the evil Fox news has kept conservatives up to date since day 1.
Why should folks be required to use their "REAL NAME" in fidonet land? Folks should be free to express themselves any way they want, even if their way is not the same as whatever happens to be your way.This would be up to the Moderator.
There is no longer a need for speculation, he's not so vauge any longer.It's messy as it is "vague" not tidy and unclean.
His/her/its choice.
Why should folks be required to use their "REAL NAME" in fidonet land? >LL>Folks should be free to express themselves any way they want, even if >LL>their way is not the same as whatever happens to be your way.
This would be up to the Moderator.
It's messy as it is "vague" not tidy and unclean.
His/her/its choice.
There is no longer a need for speculation, he's not so vauge any longer. His
name is David Duff according to the lastest Nodelist.
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