Atroxi wrote to Atroxi <=-

Stupid. Absolute stupid.

Best way to learn it to make mistakes :D

FBSD was my daily driver for a long time late 90's and about first decade of the 2K ... Then I got old and have been toying with different toynix distros, but for pat 5 years or so I have been rather pleased with Pop!_OS.
Although I'm writing this on ArcaOS ... liking the whole look'n'feel and the smell of nostalgia :)
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Hakuchi wrote to Atroxi <=-

Atroxi wrote to Atroxi <=-

Stupid. Absolute stupid.

Best way to learn it to make mistakes :D

Certainly, I really felt stupid that after I posted in here and did some casual searching that the package that I was looking for some time now was actually ported to FreeBSD.

FBSD was my daily driver for a long time late 90's and about first
decade of the 2K ... Then I got old and have been toying with different toynix distros, but for pat 5 years or so I have been rather pleased
with Pop!_OS. Although I'm writing this on ArcaOS ... liking the whole look'n'feel and the smell of nostalgia :)
Have ArcaOS, OpenBSD and Haiku intalled on this "retro-thingie" X60s ThinkPad. ... Einstein's relativity work is a magnificent mathematical garb which ascinat

Yeah, a lot of people are saying nice stuff with Pop! OS. I haven't tried that personally, as I'm not that much of a fan of prebuilt stuff. I don't even know if I'll stop at FreeBSD, but so far I'm quite pleased at how organized stuff are. Perhaps I will go deeper into the rabbit hole and install OpenBSD, though I don't see any reason for it right now. In general, however, it was quite easy to port the scripts that I have written in Linux over here which made the hop much more pleasant.

X60s IS retro, it's quite funny how hard getting one of those thick laptops around my area. Whenever I ask about it on used computer shops, people always get shocked and ask why I'm looking for such an antique piece of computer and not their new, slightly used, sleek laptops. Perhaps they just don't get the appeal of Thinkpads.

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Atroxi wrote to Hakuchi <=-

Yeah, a lot of people are saying nice stuff with Pop! OS. I haven't
tried that personally, as I'm not that much of a fan of prebuilt stuff.

I do feel you. But since I first got their laptop that came with it I thought to test it out and here I am :)

I don't even know if I'll stop at FreeBSD, but so far I'm quite pleased
at how organized stuff are. Perhaps I will go deeper into the rabbit
hole and install OpenBSD, though I don't see any reason for it right
now. In general, however, it was quite easy to port the scripts that I have written in Linux over here which made the hop much more pleasant.

FBSD is good, but for some reason I found out that OBSD have matured rather well and I do like it. Basically I could install it as a daily driver since it has all I need.

X60s IS retro, it's quite funny how hard getting one of those thick laptops around my area. Whenever I ask about it on used computer shops, people always get shocked and ask why I'm looking for such an antique piece of computer and not their new, slightly used, sleek laptops.
Perhaps they just don't get the appeal of Thinkpads.

People think they do need all the shiny new hotness or whatever ... If anyting doesn't break, I have basically all the hardware I'll need for the rest of my life. If not newer camera body, but that is different :D


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Atroxi wrote to Hakuchi <=-

X60s IS retro, it's quite funny how hard getting one of those thick laptops around my area. Whenever I ask about it on used computer shops, people always get shocked and ask why I'm looking for such an antique piece of computer and not their new, slightly used, sleek laptops.
Perhaps they just don't get the appeal of Thinkpads.

I grudgingly got rid of my T42 and replaced it with a T410. It's
chunkier than an ultrabook-form factor newer Thinkpad, but it still
has a full-travel keyboard. With it, I feel like I'm working on a
portable desktop compared to an ultrabook.

The older ones are easy to work on, too - remove a couple of screws
and the keyboard slides up and out, giving you access to the logic
board and making replacements easier.



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On 8/26/2020 6:42 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:

I grudgingly got rid of my T42 and replaced it with a T410. It's
chunkier than an ultrabook-form factor newer Thinkpad, but it still
has a full-travel keyboard. With it, I feel like I'm working on a
portable desktop compared to an ultrabook.

Depending on where I am going, I'll bring a keyboard and mouse with me
to use with a laptop. I really hate all laptop keyboards, though some
are better than others.

I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're too
annoying for people around me, and on calls. Now I'm mostly using das keyboards w/ cherry mx brown switches. I've got a couple generic brown keyboards, but most of the generics no longer use real browns and they
don't feel quite right.

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I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're too

>annoying for people around me, and on calls.

Why are those annoying to those around you? Key tap sounds ?
I wasn't sure what the Model-M keyboards were so I checked online and they may be similar to what I use. The Model M keyboards were made by Unicomp and by Maxiswitch (and one other) over the years. The keyboard I am typing this on, which I have used since about 1993, is a Maxiswitch manufactured in 1991.
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Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
By: Rob Mccart to TRACKER1 on Sun Aug 30 2020 12:29 am

I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're too

annoying for people around me, and on calls.

Why are those annoying to those around you? Key tap sounds ?
I wasn't sure what the Model-M keyboards were so I checked online and they

no they let out fart smells. of course it's the sound
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Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're too annoying for people around me, and on calls. Now I'm mostly using das keyboards w/ cherry mx brown switches. I've got a couple generic brown keyboards, but most of the generics no longer use real browns and they don't feel quite right.

Preach. I have a model M that's been with me since 1991, and can't use
it in the house; my home office is right off of the main television
room.

I have a chiclet keyboard on my desktop now, think I've been turned by
the new laptop keyboards. I should find a quieter mechanical keyboard;
I've just gotten spoiled by wireless keyboards and haven't found a
wireless mechanical keyboard (yet).



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Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tracker1 on Sat Aug 29 2020 07:39 am

Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I like the Unicomp/Model-M style keyboards the most, but they're too annoying for people around me, and on calls. Now I'm mostly using das keyboards w/ cherry mx brown switches. I've got a couple generic brown keyboards, but most of the generics no longer use real browns and they don't feel quite right.

Preach. I have a model M that's been with me since 1991, and can't use
it in the house; my home office is right off of the main television
room.

I have a chiclet keyboard on my desktop now, think I've been turned by
the new laptop keyboards. I should find a quieter mechanical keyboard;
I've just gotten spoiled by wireless keyboards and haven't found a
wireless mechanical keyboard (yet).

... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.

I used to work with someone who would bring his own keyboard to work. He had one with the old big DIN connector and a ps/2 adapter. The Dell workstations we had still supported ps/2 ports. I was curious as to when he would have to switch to a usb adapter, however I think he would've been ready to retire at that point.

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Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Aug 31 2020 11:53 am

I used to work with someone who would bring his own keyboard to work. He had one with the old big DIN connector and a ps/2 adapter. The Dell workstations we had still supported ps/2 ports. I was curious as to when he would have to switch to a usb adapter, however I think he would've been ready to retire at that point.

One time I worked with someone who brought his own keyboard to work, because he was used to the Dvorak keyboard layout..

Nightfox

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Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
By: Nightfox to Moondog on Tue Sep 01 2020 08:14 am

I used to work with someone who would bring his own keyboard to
work. He had one with the old big DIN connector and a ps/2 adapter.

One time I worked with someone who brought his own keyboard to work, because he was used to the Dvorak keyboard layout..

For quite some time I used my own ergonomic keyboard and trackball at work until they decided to pay for (nicer) replacements.

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Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 02 2020 12:29 pm

On typing, my daughter had a party and I was up in the loft typing, and apparently people thought I was just goofing around as they didn't believe you could type that fast. I'd be surprised if I hit over 100wpm anymore though.

One of my nephews also thought that of me when he was maybe 5 or 6 years old. I tend to type fairly fast, and he thought I was just typing gibberish on my PC because I was typing so fast.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Sep 01 2020 10:39 pm

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
By: Digital Man to Tracker1 on Tue Sep 01 2020 09:41 pm

I had a co-worker who was very verbal about preference for model-M's and he brought like 3 of them in and put them on his desk. He plugged one in and started typing. Everybody in the office got to hear him type at like 10 words a minute. I was like, Dude, if you're gonna have a loud keyboard, learn to type!

I'm not a fan of people being loud in general, so I'm not really a big fan of those keyboards. I tend to prefer a quiet keyboard for myself too..

Me too. Working from home has been nice in that regard as I can (usually) have a nice and quiet environment in which to work.

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Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 01 2020 10:30 pm

Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Tue Sep 01 2020 02:39 pm

One time I worked with someone who brought his own keyboard to work,
because h was used to the Dvorak keyboard layout..

One of my co-workers uses one of those, too, and their background is no in IT. It is one of our users. I had always associated Dvorak to older programmers but I guess I am wrong as she is not a programmer and is <

The guy I knew who used the Dvorak keyboard was maybe around 25 years old at the time.

I had heard the Dvorak keyboard was supposed to be faster to type on, and th the QWERTY keyboard was designed to be slower for typing to prevent typewrit arms from jamming, but I've since heard that isn't really true.

Nightfox

What I have heard is that QWERTY got popular because a typewriter operator won a writing speed contest with one or something like that, but I have no verification for such claim.

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Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-

Me too. Working from home has been nice in that regard as I can
(usually) have a nice and quiet environment in which to work.

Working in open office plans has prepared me well for the noise of
working in a house with a 10-year old aspiring singer. Who. Sings.
All. The. Time.

I have a nice USB headset and about 8 hours of ambient music I've
listened to while working since 2001.



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Atroxi wrote to Hakuchi <=-

Void Linux and I was quite surprised that until now I haven't removed FreeBSD on my laptop. It's unfortunate actually that steam doesn't work
as well as on linux than on here because that's the only thing that's keeping the Void Linux install on my desktop box.

Don't have a clue about Steam on FBSD or any other BSD ... I know it runs ok
on GNU, but that's about it. I don't game, you see. Well not like that I don't :D

Man, I'm really curious with OpenBSD now. I don't know if it would
make sense for someone like me to run it. I don't really "study"
computers on an academic level and are not, currently, interested in deeper operating system stuff. I heard that if you want to learn more about how operating systems work that you should try using OpenBSD
because the codebase is smaller and the community are helpful in
teaching you stuff around it.

Well ... OBSD is surely it's own puffy-thing. Even for people who aren't
really interested or curious about how things are done "the proper way", can see the beauty of proper code and such. Of course it's not developed for users. It's done by the devs for themselves. But one of the most secure thingies OOB that is out there.
If something, I would like to see Qubes-like OS made with OBSD and with the same attitude towards security and code integrity and robustness.


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Re: Re: QWK Readers for FreeB
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Thu Sep 03 2020 07:23 am

Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-

Me too. Working from home has been nice in that regard as I can
(usually) have a nice and quiet environment in which to work.

Working in open office plans has prepared me well for the noise of
working in a house with a 10-year old aspiring singer. Who. Sings.
All. The. Time.

I have a nice USB headset and about 8 hours of ambient music I've
listened to while working since 2001.

I have worked from home since 2010. I cannot stand working from home!

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