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  • Re: On deeply held belief

    From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Dumas Walker on Tue Nov 10 08:50:00 2026
    Dumas Walker wrote to Outatime <=-

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    A funny phenomenon I keep experiencing, or maybe always
    experienced but now notice more as I get older and more
    perceptive of others.

    Those who says they are "not religious" can be the most
    religious of all.

    You are not the only one to experience this. I have met some
    "atheists" who are at least as judgemental as the most conservatively-religious persons I have ever met when it comes to
    religion (or lack thereof).

    Pointing that out is a good way to get them really upset, too. ;)

    Political Correctness/Woke is the prevailing religion today. It is a belief system that is based on faith.

    There are very few people who don't have some faith-based belief system, who don't have at the core some assumptions that they build their belief system on.

    Some of the most fanatical fundamentalists are those who describe themselves as atheists. They technically are, but they are religious, its just their religion doesn't have a God (unless you count Hitler as some sort of anti-God)


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  • From Outatime@VERT/BTTFBBS to Boraxman on Mon Nov 9 20:43:00 2026
    Some of the most fanatical fundamentalists are those who describe
    themselves as
    atheists. They technically are, but they are religious, its just their religion doesn't have a God (unless you count Hitler as some sort of anti-God)

    At this point the word "religious" is not part of my vocabulary when I talk about people of faith in God. Because at best it's meaningless in that context; at worst, it's derogatory.

    There is a word used to describe certain Christians, "evangelical," which means strictly, according to the (Christian) Gospel, and a little more nuanced, referring to Christians who hold firm the authority of the Bible and a personal conversion to faith. A number of Christian denominations--perhaps not Catholic, Orthodox, or some protestant mainline--could be described this way. But in public, it's a stain. It's the evangelicals who (used to) terrorize abortion clinics. Evangelicals had a big hand in voting in Trump, twice! Evangelicals hate gays. I mean, that's what they say. But none of it is actually true. It's a misused label for conveniently grouping people together who don't necessarily belong grouped together.

    So, even though it's a fine word with a solid definition, it's got baggage, like "religious" and I wouldn't use it among most company.


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