Re: phones BIGGER.. computers SMALLER..
By: Ogg to All on Sat Jul 25 2020 08:54 am

Something that creeps me out: manufacturers trying to make phones
BIGGER instead of more portable, while trying to make computers
SMALLER instead of more comfortable to work with.

Never looked at the matter that way. You have identified an interesting trend.

Soon we will be in a world with nothing but Phablets everywhere.
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Hello Underminer!

** On Saturday 25.07.20 - 13:28, underminer wrote to Ogg:

Something that creeps me out: manufacturers trying to make phones
BIGGER instead of more portable, while trying to make computers
SMALLER instead of more comfortable to work with.

Never looked at the matter that way. You have identified an interesting Og>> trend.

Soon we will be in a world with nothing but Phablets everywhere.

The Zanco S-Pen might be something I would be willing to try out. The
camera function would be handy at a moment's notice. Then, as long as the battery charge holds up as long as they claim - compared to the paltry
6hours on the Servo and only 2G - then the idea of a "pen" sized phone
works for me.

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Re: phones BIGGER.. computers SMALLER..
By: Ogg to All on Sat Jul 25 2020 08:54 am

All I need is a device that is JUST a phone. Maybe a small screen running along the length of the device for Caller-ID, but that's it.

For the record, my personal beater is a Nokia 150 DS. The model is from 2016, but it is a dumbphone in imitation of the classic Nokias. Got it for about 30 bucks. My horses love grabbing my phones so I'd rather they grab a cheapo instead of something worth hundreds.

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Re: Re: phones BIGGER.. computers SMALLER..
By: Ogg to Arelor on Sat Jul 25 2020 09:39 pm

Hello Arelor!

** On Saturday 25.07.20 - 18:16, arelor wrote to Ogg:

For the record, my personal beater is a Nokia 150 DS. The model is from 2016, but it is a dumbphone in imitation of the classic Nokias. Got it for about 30 bucks. My horses love grabbing my phones so I'd rather they grab cheapo instead of something worth hundreds.

Does DS mean dual SIM?

Is that the one featured here?: https://youtu.be/L35kPRslchQ

I could live with one that size and basic functions.

What's the battery life like?

As it turns out, I only use the Blackberry as a mobile hotspot. I really don't need it for anything else. My spare batteries charge in about 4 hours. The hotspot function drains the most power in about 6 hours. When just on standby cellphone mode, the battery lasts much longer.

Yes, DS stands for Dual SIM. I use one for my personal line, and another for the emergency job line.

No Youtube here, sorry. But Iam sure you found it because it is a very easy to find phone:

https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/7247402e

Battery is eternal. I think I recharge about once a week or so.

The camera sucks, and the documentation sucks, and audio quality is 5 over 10. Also no bluetooth -> hands free integration with the car. I often use the torch, the FM radio and the alarm. Other than that is just an expendable phone that takes and sends calls for ridiculously cheap. The only isue it has is they are shutting down the network it uses in lots of countries. Too bad.

But seriously, I'd buy it again. My horses have bitten, beaten and abused mine none stop and it still works. My Sophie grabbed it, ran away with it and dropped it in a horse pee pool once. After drying and cleaning, the thing still works. My old Samsung Galaxy died arter half what this one has suffered.


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Re: Re: phones BIGGER.. computers SMALLER..
By: Arelor to Ogg on Thu Jul 30 2020 05:31 am

They are killing 2G and EDGE by 2025. I am not sure riht now but I think I am on one
of those.

3G was scheduled to be killed earlier than that, actually.

All the cool kids are moving to 4G. Which I can't explain because 4G has not half the
coverage 3G or 2G have each. Oh well.

I don't know what it's like where you're from but 4G is solid here in the UK. I can't remember the last time I connected to my WiFi router with my phone as the cell signal here is as good, or better, than most WiFi signals. 3G is so slow, it's not fit for anything other than basic web-browsing... it's a very poor experience, but it's still better than nothing. I can stream 1080p movies with no buffering on 4G, I love it!

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Re: Re: phones BIGGER.. computers SMALLER
By: Andeddu to Arelor on Thu Jul 30 2020 05:43 pm

UK. I can't remember the last time I connected to my WiFi router with my phone as the cell signal here is as good, or better, than most WiFi signals. 3G is so slow, it's not fit for anything other than basic web-browsing... it's a very poor experience, but it's still better than nothing. I can stream 1080p movies with no buffering on 4G, I love it!

if all i could get was 3g i wouldnt even get a fucking smartphone.
3g is so slow in comparison to 4g.


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Re: Re: phones BIGGER.. computers SMALLER..
By: Arelor to Andeddu on Thu Jul 30 2020 06:11 pm

3G is actually quite fine for messaging and emailing, which is actually what phones were supposed to be for in the first place. Communications.

WRONG! It's for me to read news stories while i poop for 45 mins.

I happen to live in a digital exclusion zone. That means I only get stable Internet via a WISP provider that uses a line-of-sight wireless protocol. Mobile networking reception here is poor _at best_. So I am not impressed by claims about networks that can download three hours of cartoons into my mobile in a second since they don't reach this place for the most part.

that sucks you dont have decent internet access. i admit i am an addict and i love being jacked in all the time.
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MRO wrote to Andeddu <=-

if all i could get was 3g i wouldnt even get a fucking
smartphone. 3g is so slow in comparison to 4g.

It's very fast in comparison to no smartphone.



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Re: Re: phones BIGGER.. computers SMALLER..
By: MRO to Andeddu on Thu Jul 30 2020 05:19 pm

if all i could get was 3g i wouldnt even get a fucking smartphone.
3g is so slow in comparison to 4g.

I'll defend it for web-browsing... it's no where near as good as 4G but it's capable for that. Try watching a YouTube video on it and watch the resolution drop a few notches!

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Re: Re: phones BIGGER.. computers SMALLER..
By: Arelor to Andeddu on Thu Jul 30 2020 06:11 pm

Then you must have a gigantic data plan.

I really see no need to use mobile Internet if a trusted LAN is available. Mobile
Internet costs more money than it is worth.

3G is actually quite fine for messaging and emailing, which is actually what phones
were supposed to be for in the first place. Communications.

Lots of industrial applications rely on 2g here. They have built 2g into industrial
and security products for long because 2g happens to be way more solid than anything
else mobile networks carry arround. At least here.

I happen to live in a digital exclusion zone. That means I only get stable Internet
via a WISP provider that uses a line-of-sight wireless protocol. Mobile networking
reception here is poor _at best_. So I am not impressed by claims about networks that
can download three hours of cartoons into my mobile in a second since they don't reach
this place for the most part.

I have a very reasonable SIM only all you can eat internet package from Three costing me a mere 20 pounds per month. It never slows down regardless of my data usage. Since I got my phone 2 years ago, I have burned through 750GB of data which mostly constitutes video streaming. It's quicker than my broadband so I never connect my phone to my WiFi unless there's a cell-site that's down due to maintenence.

It's a shame you don't recieve any decent cell signals where you are from... sometimes I take it for granted that I have a broadband quality connection pretty much anywhere I go.

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