• It is OUR data that they are using

    From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed May 20 22:23:00 2020
    Hello poindexter!

    ** On Tuesday 19.05.20 - 10:41, poindexter.fortran wrote to Ogg:

    Even $1/mo is too much! It is OUR data that they are using. The
    cashflow should come in OUR direction.

    Jaron Lanier has a book called "You are not a Gadget" that describes a micropayment system where art and content creators can be paid
    directly for their work. It's a utopian vision of how the internet
    could be, and how it could directly benefit the people that create the content that now only benefit the investors.

    He's pretty outspoken about the state of the tech, and has an
    interesting Ted talk called something like "Why you need to quit
    social media".

    I'm glad to hear that I was not the only one thinking that the FB/Google model is brainwashing/addiction at its finest.

    We need to have the mindset that our data is *our* data and we should
    expect to be treated with dignity - digital dignity as he puts it.

    I watched a few of his talks. The one on Channel 4, is very good too. In
    it, he admits that even he embraces the companies that he critizes; he
    stated that he sold a company of his to Google. But it's the data
    collection and its use to manipulate the population that is the dystopian sadness.

    Jaron is the voice of reason.

    FB, and many of the similar social media types, purposely uses an
    addiction component in it's operation. I think someone here stated that
    they would be hate to loose all their valuable connections to the people
    they friended. That is the "feeling" that FB tries to inculcate upon its users.

    I have not minded the occassional visit to FB over the years. I would
    have no problem totally ignoring the ads. But it seems lately that FB has become a much greater data pig than I can stand. FB uses between 2 - 3MB
    of tx/rx data before the first page finishes; that is just totally bad,
    and *I'm* paying for all that shit.

    A few years ago I posted some pictures of my then deceased mom on FB, but
    I put them in a private album and I only purposely announced it to one
    family friend. However, the pictures ended up being announced outside
    that privacy barrier! I was furious. I think FB purposely makes these "errors" or makes locking things up difficult to understand so that in the mean time they can continue their social data mining, sharing it as widely
    as possible and feed it to their algorithms, before you can figure out how
    to lock things up better.

    I am tired of these "mistakes" which they historically first deny, or
    later apologize for and just claim to correct later.

    Anyway, I am avoiding FB for at least a month. Then I plan to just empty
    my photo albums and then have longer pauses before my next visits.

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