I was curious about this documentary (the previews looking intriguing and funny) and when I started reading reviews of the movie, it was clear there was some kind of unexpected twist. I like surprises, so I intentionally didn't read any spoilers and I took my family to see it this weekend. My 22yo daughter wasn't familiar with the Elizabeth Holmes/Theranos story at all (just too young I guess), but they all really enjoyed it as did I.

There's plenty to debate and discuss about this movie, but I wouldn't want to spoil it for anyone. You should see it. And if you haven't seen "The Dropout" (fictionalized Hulu series about the same topic), you should see that first. There's a famous book and other documentaries/shows on this topic of course as well.
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Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: Digital Man to All on Mon Oct 19 2026 18:16:16

My 22yo daughter wasn't familiar with the Elizabeth Holmes/Theranos story at all (just too young I guess)...

I'm much older and I've never heard of her either.

And if you haven't seen "The Dropout" (fictionalized Hulu series about the same topic), you should see that first.

And what is the topic?

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I was curious about this documentary (the previews looking intriguing
and funny) and when I started reading reviews of the movie, it was
clear there was some kind of unexpected twist.

She's a space lizard in a flesh suit?



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Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: Mortar to Digital Man on Tue Oct 20 2026 09:48 am

Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: Digital Man to All on Mon Oct 19 2026 18:16:16

My 22yo daughter wasn't familiar with the Elizabeth Holmes/Theranos story at all (just too young I guess)...

I'm much older and I've never heard of her either.

And if you haven't seen "The Dropout" (fictionalized Hulu series about the same topic), you should see that first.

And what is the topic?

The topic was Elizbeth Holmes, the young female prodigy CEO of Theranos (a medical device/tech company) that was convicted of financial fraud and sentenced to 11+ years in federal prison (and ordered to repay hundreds of millions of dollars in restitution) in recent years.
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Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: Digital Man to Mortar on Tue Oct 20 2026 11:27:57

My 22yo daughter wasn't familiar with the Elizabeth Holmes/Theranos story at all (just too young I guess)...
And if you haven't seen "The Dropout" (fictionalized Hulu series about the same topic), you should see that
first.

And what is the topic?

The topic was Elizbeth Holmes, the young female prodigy CEO of Theranos (a medical device/tech company) that was
convicted of financial fraud and sentenced to 11+ years in federal prison (and ordered to repay hundreds of millions
of dollars in restitution) in recent years.

I have not seen the dropout, though I've been meaning to. I had read about her in some magazine article when she was becoming famous around the tech and medical world, did not know what the end of the story was until I picked up a copy of "Bad Blood" from the local library (what I assume the dropout was largely based off of.) If you want to never, ever trust what a CEO in silicon valley says ever again, and generally just be horrified about how gullible those that you would assume are smart enough to pick out a scam artist, you gotta read that book. It seems like unless you picked up either that book or the dropout, the news of what elizabeth holmes and theranos did quickly got wrapped up in the rest of the news cycle for most.

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Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: Bryn to Digital Man on Tue Oct 20 2026 01:53 pm

artist, you gotta read that book. It seems like unless you picked up either that book or the dropout, the news of what elizabeth holmes and theranos did quickly got wrapped up in the rest of the news cycle for most.

I didn't read Bad Blood, but probably should. I think I've seen all the other news magazine episodes (e.g. 60 minutes, HBO, etc.) about the story. Her story was pretty prevalent in my sphere, but I live and work in California and tech, so maybe that's why. In 2019, I even interviewed a software engineer that previously worked at Theranos; the guy was, not surprisngly, a bluffer.
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Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: Digital Man to Mortar on Tue Oct 20 2026 11:27:57

Digital Man wrote:

The topic was Elizbeth Holmes, the young female prodigy CEO of Theranos (a medical device/tech company) that was convicted of financial fraud and sentenced to 11+ years in federal prison (and ordered to repay hundreds of millions of dollars in restitution) in recent years.

I had never heard of her either, and truthfully though you were speaking of some super hero and her side-kick :-)




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Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: kk4qbn to Digital Man on Tue Oct 20 2026 06:16 pm

I had never heard of her either, and truthfully though you were speaking of some super hero and her side-kick :-)

Ha! I can see that! :-)
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Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: Digital Man to All on Mon Oct 19 2026 18:16:16

My 22yo daughter wasn't familiar with the Elizabeth Holmes/Theranos story at all (just too young I guess)...

I'm much older and I've never heard of her either.

And if you haven't seen "The Dropout" (fictionalized Hulu series about the same topic), you should see that first.

And what is the topic?

She was convicted of fraud in connection with Theranos health
technology company investigation.

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Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: Digital Man to All on Mon Oct 19 2026 06:16 pm

I was curious about this documentary (the previews looking intriguing
and funny) and when I started reading reviews of the movie, it was
clear there was some kind of unexpected twist. I like surprises, so I intentionally didn't read any spoilers and I took my family to see it
this weekend. My 22yo daughter wasn't familiar with the Elizabeth Holmes/Theranos story at all (just too young I guess), but they all
really enjoyed it as did I.

There's plenty to debate and discuss about this movie, but I wouldn't
want to spoil it for anyone. You should see it. And if you haven't
seen "The Dropout" (fictionalized Hulu series about the same topic),
you should see that first. There's a famous book and other documentaries/shows on this topic of course as well.

I don't think i'll watch it even though i'm somewhat a fan of Nathan Fielder. I'm not into watching exploitive reality tv stuff and for me this is too
close to that.

Did you read that nathan and producers lived in their home and thought they were being recorded?

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Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: Mortar to Digital Man on Tue Oct 20 2026 09:48 am

Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes) By: Digital
Man to All on Mon Oct 19 2026 18:16:16

My 22yo daughter wasn't familiar with the Elizabeth
Holmes/Theranos story at all (just too young I guess)...

I'm much older and I've never heard of her either.

you probably saw it in passing on the news. it was a huge scandal about fake
blood testing methods her company claimed to have.

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Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: Digital Man to Mortar on Tue Oct 20 2026 11:27 am

Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes) By: Mortar to Digital Man on Tue Oct 20 2026 09:48 am

Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: Digital Man to All on Mon Oct 19 2026 18:16:16

My 22yo daughter wasn't familiar with the Elizabeth
Holmes/Theranos story at all (just too young I
guess)...

I'm much older and I've never heard of her either.

And if you haven't seen "The Dropout" (fictionalized
Hulu series about the same topic), you should see that
first.

And what is the topic?

The topic was Elizbeth Holmes, the young female prodigy CEO of
Theranos (a medical device/tech company) that was convicted of
financial fraud and sentenced to 11+ years in federal prison (and
ordered to repay hundreds of millions of dollars in restitution) in
recent years.

financial fraud and sentenced to 11+ years in federal prison (and
recent years.

she only paid back what she made by working in prison. manditory.
she still owes and won't pay.

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Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Oct 21 2026 01:46 pm

Did you read that nathan and producers lived in their home and thought they were being recorded?

It's clear in the film that Nathan lived in the home for part of the duration and the production crew was recording audio and video most of the time. Are you saying that Elizabeth and her partner were recording the film makers? Wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: Digital Man to MRO on Wed Oct 21 2026 12:45 pm

Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Oct 21 2026 01:46 pm

Did you read that nathan and producers lived in their home and
thought they were being recorded?

It's clear in the film that Nathan lived in the home for part of the duration and the production crew was recording audio and video most
of the time. Are you saying that Elizabeth and her partner were
recording the film makers? Wouldn't surprise me at all.

Based on what the production crew heard about them, they felt that they were �being secretly recorded in private areas in the home.

futhermore elizabeth and her guy had mentioned that they secretly recorded �past interviews. I don't blame them for doing this and it's good practice.
people's interviews have been twisted in the past by editing.

whats also interesting is nathan was not supposed to be viewed in the �documentary but elizabeth and other circumstances pulled him into the front �of the camera. I might watch this movie this weekend. it's a very convoluted
and crazy situation.


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Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Oct 21 2026 07:08 pm

whats also interesting is nathan was not supposed to be viewed in the �documentary but elizabeth and other circumstances pulled him into

yep my editor's doing those funny characters again. time to fix that.


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Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: MRO to all on Wed Oct 21 2026 07:09 pm

Re: You Can See Everything (docu re: Elizabeth Holmes)
By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Oct 21 2026 07:08 pm

whats also interesting is nathan was not supposed to be viewed in the �documentary but elizabeth and other circumstances pulled him into

yep my editor's doing those funny characters again. time to fix that.

Probably Soft-CRs. Synchronet can strip or convert them automatically if you configure it so.
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yep my editor's doing those funny characters again. time to fix
that.

Probably Soft-CRs. Synchronet can strip or convert them automatically
if you configure it so.

yeah you told me about that before. i switched editors because my ai editor thinks i'm doing some programming expression when i type certain things.


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