• Please add

    From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to All on Tue Jan 18 20:43:06 2022
    Hi everyone,

    Please add BSD to the backbone:

    ========================================================================
    Echo successfully Added.

    TAGname: BSD Group: FIDO

    TITLe: BSD Chat/Support

    Language: ENGLISH

    DESCription:
    BSD is for the support and discussion about
    the BSD family of operating systems such as
    FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, and others. The
    primary focus will be on FreeBSD. Any topic
    concerning BSD is welcome here.

    RULEs: {Not Found}

    MODerator: Sean Dennis, 1:18/200
    Email: sysop{at}outpostbbs.net

    VOLume: 10/month

    ORIGIN: 1:18/200

    RESTrictions: /REAL

    DISTribution: Worldwide

    GATEway: None allowed.

    From: Sean Dennis, 1:18/200
    Email: sysop@outpostbbs.net

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    Thanks,
    Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to All on Tue Jan 18 20:44:08 2022
    I think both of these echoes are on the backbone (HOME_COOKING and RECIPES)
    but I am requesting them anyway to make sure:

    ========================================================================
    Echo Successfully Updated.

    TAGname: HOME_COOKING Group: FIDO

    TITLe: Home Cooking

    Language: ENGLISH

    DESCription:
    This conference will be a relaxed forum for
    discussion of recipes, appliances, utensils,
    cook books, food history, and friendly chatter
    about the various aspects of cooking in our
    lives.

    RULEs: {Verified}

    MODerator: Sean Dennis, 1:18/200
    Email: sysop@outpostbbs.net

    VOLume: 50/month

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    RESTrictions: /REAL

    DISTribution: {N/A}

    GATEway: None, period.

    From: Sean Dennis, 1:18/200
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    Echo Successfully Updated.

    TAGname: RECIPES Group: FIDO

    TITLe: Recipes

    Language: ENGLISH

    DESCription:
    RECIPES is the place for you to post all the recipes
    you want. Discussion of cooking and what-not is
    allowed but the emphasis is on posting recipes.

    RULEs: {Verified}

    MODerator: Sean Dennis, 1:18/200
    Email: sysop@outpostbbs.net
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    Thanks,
    Sean


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Sean Dennis on Wed Jan 19 10:11:28 2022

    On 2022 Jan 18 20:43:06, you wrote to All:

    Hi everyone,

    Please add BSD to the backbone:

    please give us a little time as we work through the recent changes we've been making since one of the stars exited fidonet...

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... I think that I shall never hear, A poem lovelier than beer ... Mad
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Sean Dennis on Wed Jan 19 10:12:18 2022

    On 2022 Jan 18 20:44:08, you wrote to All:

    I think both of these echoes are on the backbone (HOME_COOKING and RECIPES)
    but I am requesting them anyway to make sure:

    they should both be listed... we'll be checking everything out as we work through the changes we've been making...

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... I remember when Saturns were ROCKETS, not cars!
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to mark lewis on Wed Jan 19 12:24:04 2022
    Hello mark,

    Wednesday January 19 2022 10:11, you wrote to me:

    please give us a little time as we work through the recent changes
    we've been making since one of the stars exited fidonet...

    Sure thing. I understand the changes y'all are going through. I just wanted to let you know. :) After 28 years in Fidonet, I know the routine only too well...

    -- Sean

    ... All great discoveries are made by mistake.
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to mark lewis on Wed Jan 19 12:25:42 2022
    Hello mark,

    Wednesday January 19 2022 10:12, you wrote to me:

    they should both be listed... we'll be checking everything out as we
    work through the changes we've been making...

    I wanted to let you know of the admin change. It was a mistake on my part.

    -- Sean

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to mark lewis on Thu Jan 20 22:50:36 2022
    mark,

    please give us a little time as we work through the recent changes we've been making since one of the stars exited fidonet...

    If your Star-colleagues were competent, it should've been done in 48 hrs ... more likely 24 ...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jan 20 2022
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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Sean Dennis on Fri Jan 21 01:16:06 2022
    Hello Sean!

    Tuesday January 18 2022 20:43, you wrote to All:

    Hi everyone,

    Please add BSD to the backbone:

    Added here at 2:250/1 to my backbone.na file.

    It is on the ELIST echo register.



    Vincent

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Sean Dennis on Fri Jan 21 01:17:14 2022
    Hello Sean!

    Tuesday January 18 2022 20:44, you wrote to All:

    I think both of these echoes are on the backbone (HOME_COOKING and
    RECIPES) but I am requesting them anyway to make sure:

    Yes both here on backbone.na

    Still need to find where it should be submitted to file area wise on Filegate.

    Any one ?

    Vincent

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to mark lewis on Thu Jan 20 20:51:18 2022
    On 19 Jan 2022, mark lewis said the following...

    they should both be listed... we'll be checking everything out as we work through the changes we've been making...

    I have HOROSCOPE on the elist but I don't see it yet on backbone.na, are we able to get that added, please & thanks?


    Jay

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  • From Mickey@1:229/307 to Jay Harris on Thu Jan 20 21:27:24 2022
    On 20 Jan 2022, Jay Harris said the following...

    I have HOROSCOPE on the elist but I don't see it yet on backbone.na, are we able to get that added, please & thanks?

    Although I'm not a big follower of Horoscopes, and echo would be entertaining to have. I second the emotion!

    ;-)

    Mick Manning

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Vincent Coen on Fri Jan 21 00:39:06 2022
    Vincent Coen wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Still need to find where it should be submitted to file area wise on Filegate.

    Not sure what you mean by that?

    -- Sean

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Vincent Coen on Fri Jan 21 00:50:58 2022
    Hello Vincent!

    21 Jan 22 01:17, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

    Yes both here on backbone.na

    Still need to find where it should be submitted to file area wise on Filegate.

    Updated BACKBONE.NA files were traditionally hatched in the BACKBONE file echo.

    Andrew

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ward Dossche on Fri Jan 21 05:25:58 2022

    On 2022 Jan 20 22:50:36, you wrote to me:

    please give us a little time as we work through the recent changes
    we've been making since one of the stars exited fidonet...

    If your Star-colleagues were competent, it should've been done in 48
    hrs ... more likely 24 ...

    it has nothing to do with competence, ward... some things just take a little longer for some to do... especially when real life gets in the way...

    please let us get these changes implemented our way in our time... it isn't like you're losing or gaining anything, right? ;)

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... Eat nothing that will prevent you from eating. - Ibn Tibbon
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Vincent Coen on Fri Jan 21 05:29:50 2022

    On 2022 Jan 21 01:17:14, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

    I think both of these echoes are on the backbone (HOME_COOKING and
    RECIPES) but I am requesting them anyway to make sure:

    Yes both here on backbone.na

    yep...

    Still need to find where it should be submitted to file area wise on Filegate.

    HOME_COOKING and RECIPES are echos, not FDNs... filegate doesn't come into play with them ;)

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... Exceptions rule.
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Jay Harris on Fri Jan 21 05:42:12 2022

    On 2022 Jan 20 20:51:18, you wrote to me:

    they should both be listed... we'll be checking everything out as we
    work through the changes we've been making...

    I have HOROSCOPE on the elist but I don't see it yet on backbone.na,
    are we able to get that added, please & thanks?

    we're still working on getting things updated and in operation with the replacement of one of the star systems and the addition of two others... some things are going a little slower than expected and/or desired but such is life...

    the current method of requesting backbone cartage of your echo is as follows (taken from the last BOFAQ distributed)...

    =====>8 snip 8<=====
    Q11 =======================================================================

    How does one go about getting an echo added to Backbone distribution?

    The Backbone generally adds an echo to the Backbone when the following requirements are met:

    1) The moderator lists the echo in the EchoList. Refer to the
    EchoList operator for information about how to do this, and then

    2) The moderator requests that the echo be distributed by the
    Backbone. The request should be sent from one of the moderator
    addresses listed in the EchoList, via one of the following methods,
    preferably "A".

    A) Echomail: To "Backbone", in the Z1_BACKBONE echo
    B) Netmail: To "Backbone", at any Backbone ZHub's address
    C) Netmail: To "NAB Robot" at it's nodelisted address,
    presently 1:1/20.

    The body of the request should consist of a current copy of the
    EchoList listing for the echo. This could be taken from a recent
    message from the EchoList (netmail, email or echomail) or be an
    excerpt from the current EchoList itself.

    The moderator is also to arrange a connection from his/her system
    to one of the ZHubs to transport the echo to the backbone.

    The echo is then listed in BACKSTAT.NA and BACKBONE.NA as being
    available.

    A welcome message is sent in the echo to help establish links. At
    this time any private links to the echo should be switched to the
    Backbone.
    =====>8 snip 8<=====

    *please note* that step 2C above is no longer valid... the best and easiest method is step 2A...

    you can look back a few messages to sean dennis' posts for his BSD cartage request for a real life example...

    we thank you for your understanding...

    )\/(ark
    1:3634/12@fidonet
    SouthEast Star - sestar.synchro.net

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Jay Harris on Fri Jan 21 15:56:06 2022
    Hello Jay!

    Thursday January 20 2022 20:51, you wrote to mark lewis:

    On 19 Jan 2022, mark lewis said the following...

    they should both be listed... we'll be checking everything out as
    we work through the changes we've been making...

    I have HOROSCOPE on the elist but I don't see it yet on backbone.na,
    are we able to get that added, please & thanks?


    It is on my copy of backbone.na and I have updated the description.

    The filegate hubs are discussing where this file will be distributed to or in, so more info soon.

    I.e., BACKBONE - the content seems to be increasing rapidly.

    Vincent

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Sean Dennis on Fri Jan 21 15:47:08 2022
    Hello Sean!

    Friday January 21 2022 00:39, you wrote to me:

    Vincent Coen wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Still need to find where it should be submitted to file area wise
    on Filegate.

    Not sure what you mean by that?

    I.e., backbone.na file name for distribution.

    Currently under discussion.

    Vincent

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Andrew Leary on Fri Jan 21 15:49:58 2022
    Hello Andrew!

    Friday January 21 2022 00:50, you wrote to me:

    Hello Vincent!

    21 Jan 22 01:17, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

    Yes both here on backbone.na

    Still need to find where it should be submitted to file area wise
    on Filegate.

    Updated BACKBONE.NA files were traditionally hatched in the BACKBONE
    file echo.

    Thanks for reminding me - it's been so long since one can out.

    We are discussing this at the moment and the content is likely to be a lot larger but hopefully without usegroup fluff.


    Vincent

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to mark lewis on Fri Jan 21 15:52:16 2022
    Hello mark!

    Friday January 21 2022 05:29, you wrote to me:


    On 2022 Jan 21 01:17:14, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

    I think both of these echoes are on the backbone (HOME_COOKING and
    RECIPES) but I am requesting them anyway to make sure:

    Yes both here on backbone.na

    yep...

    Still need to find where it should be submitted to file area wise
    on Filegate.

    HOME_COOKING and RECIPES are echos, not FDNs... filegate doesn't come
    into play with them ;)

    I am aware of that I was referring to the file backbone.na but it looks like file areas BACKBONE.




    Vincent

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Vincent Coen on Fri Jan 21 13:05:18 2022

    On 2022 Jan 21 15:52:16, you wrote to me:

    I am aware of that I was referring to the file backbone.na but it looks like file areas BACKBONE.

    yeah, AFAIK that FDN will stay the same for the backbone related files distribution... i don't see any real reason to change it...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to mark lewis on Fri Jan 21 19:25:26 2022
    Hello mark!

    Friday January 21 2022 13:05, you wrote to me:


    On 2022 Jan 21 15:52:16, you wrote to me:

    I am aware of that I was referring to the file backbone.na but it
    looks like file areas BACKBONE.

    yeah, AFAIK that FDN will stay the same for the backbone related files distribution... i don't see any real reason to change it...

    Sounds like a plan.


    Vincent

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to mark lewis on Sat Jan 22 00:39:16 2022
    please let us get these changes implemented our way in our time... it
    isn't like you're losing or gaining anything, right? ;)

    I need more beer ...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jan 20 2022
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to All on Sat Jan 22 02:34:18 2022
    On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 00:39:17 +0100
    "Ward Dossche" <ward.dossche@2:292/854> wrote:

    please let us get these changes implemented our way in our
    time... it isn't like you're losing or gaining anything, right?
    ;)

    I need more beer ...

    You need to chill out. That criticism was totally uncalled for. I don't remember being given a 24HR or even 48HR SLA for anything FIDO related.
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/1000 to mark lewis on Sat Jan 22 23:49:00 2022
    Re: Please add
    By: mark lewis to Sean Dennis on Wed Jan 19 2022 09:11 am


    On 2022 Jan 18 20:43:06, you wrote to All:

    Hi everyone,

    Please add BSD to the backbone:

    please give us a little time as we work through the recent changes we've bee making since one of the stars exited fidonet...

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majes ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing ... I think that I shall never hear, A poem lovelier than beer ... Mad

    Yup, I track 2 right now to add.

    BSD (a new one to me)
    RECIPES (fell off some systems? Not sure)

    Reading up.

    xxcarol
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/1000 to Sean Dennis on Sat Jan 22 23:55:46 2022
    Re: Re: Please add
    By: Sean Dennis to Vincent Coen on Thu Jan 20 2022 11:39 pm

    Vincent Coen wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Still need to find where it should be submitted to file area wise on Filegate.

    Not sure what you mean by that?

    -- Sean

    ... Insomnia isn't anything to lose sleep over.
    ___ MultiMail/FreeBSD v0.52


    It's ok. Vince mean's thinking where to hatch a new fidonet.na type file. One not tied BTW to the elist.

    Another of us seems to be working that file to get something 2022 out.

    xxcarol\
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/1000 to Ward Dossche on Sun Jan 23 00:08:38 2022
    Re: Re: Please add
    By: Ward Dossche to mark lewis on Fri Jan 21 2022 11:39 pm

    please let us get these changes implemented our way in our time... it isn't like you're losing or gaining anything, right? ;)

    I need more beer ...

    \%/@rd


    Bocks might be good? Can't get it here, snowed in just now.

    Meantime, sorting it all out. Eventually we move off a seemingly Z1 echo, but using what folks know for now. Later we'll add a new one and let this one slowly die of attrition. For the meantime, it suffices to get stuff in place.

    xxcarol
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jan 23 12:12:22 2022
    Hello Carol,

    Saturday January 22 2022 23:55, you wrote to me:

    It's ok. Vince mean's thinking where to hatch a new fidonet.na type
    file. One not tied BTW to the elist.

    Makes sense now.

    Another of us seems to be working that file to get something 2022
    out.

    Everythiung will settle out eventually.

    -- Sean

    ... Life should be measured by its breadth, not its length.
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/1000 to Sean Dennis on Sun Jan 23 15:58:10 2022
    Re: Please add
    By: Sean Dennis to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jan 23 2022 11:12 am

    Hello Carol,

    Saturday January 22 2022 23:55, you wrote to me:

    It's ok. Vince mean's thinking where to hatch a new fidonet.na type file. One not tied BTW to the elist.

    Makes sense now.

    Another of us seems to be working that file to get something 2022
    out.

    Everythiung will settle out eventually.

    -- Sean

    ... Life should be measured by its breadth, not its length.

    Yes. And real life sometimes impinges. I got a call from Guam to help with a situation the VADM broght up Saturday that has me briefing Monday morning. Had to delay some items here to work it out.

    Ah well, back on it now.

    xxcarol\
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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jan 23 21:01:34 2022
    Hello Carol!

    Sunday January 23 2022 15:58, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

    Re: Please add
    By: Sean Dennis to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jan 23 2022 11:12 am

    Hello Carol,

    Saturday January 22 2022 23:55, you wrote to me:

    It's ok. Vince mean's thinking where to hatch a new
    fidonet.na type
    file. One not tied BTW to the elist.

    Makes sense now.

    Another of us seems to be working that file to get something
    2022
    out.

    Everythiung will settle out eventually.

    -- Sean

    ... Life should be measured by its breadth, not its length.

    Yes. And real life sometimes impinges. I got a call from Guam to
    help with a situation the VADM broght up Saturday that has me briefing Monday morning. Had to delay some items here to work it out.

    Ah well, back on it now.

    Now being British the abbreviation might not match - confirm VADM = Vice Admiral ?

    Just curious and no, was involved in the Air Force.

    Vincent

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/1000 to Sean Dennis on Sun Jan 23 22:56:18 2022
    Re: Please add
    By: Sean Dennis to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jan 23 2022 11:12 am

    Hello Carol,

    Saturday January 22 2022 23:55, you wrote to me:

    It's ok. Vince mean's thinking where to hatch a new fidonet.na type file. One not tied BTW to the elist.

    Makes sense now.

    Another of us seems to be working that file to get something 2022
    out.

    Everythiung will settle out eventually.

    -- Sean

    ... Life should be measured by its breadth, not its length.

    Yes. Settling a bit more each day! Vince has the right name now for the NA hatch and another seems to be working one up.

    xxcarol
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/1000 to Vincent Coen on Sun Jan 23 23:06:04 2022
    Re: Please add
    By: Vincent Coen to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jan 23 2022 08:01 pm

    Hello Carol!

    Sunday January 23 2022 15:58, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

    Re: Please add
    By: Sean Dennis to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jan 23 2022 11:12 am

    Hello Carol,

    Saturday January 22 2022 23:55, you wrote to me:

    It's ok. Vince mean's thinking where to hatch a new
    fidonet.na type
    file. One not tied BTW to the elist.

    Makes sense now.

    Another of us seems to be working that file to get something
    2022
    out.

    Everythiung will settle out eventually.

    -- Sean

    ... Life should be measured by its breadth, not its length.

    Yes. And real life sometimes impinges. I got a call from Guam to
    help with a situation the VADM broght up Saturday that has me briefing Monday morning. Had to delay some items here to work it out.

    Ah well, back on it now.

    Now being British the abbreviation might not match - confirm VADM = Vice Admiral ?

    Just curious and no, was involved in the Air Force.

    Vincent


    Grin, yes. Lt General should be the same. Now my poor boss is worried
    because we have to telework at least part of tomorrow. Snow event here and Hampton Roads got a bit hammered on the SE portions. As the sun went down, my street is 5inch deep ice with spikey ruts. They don't treat side roads here at all (not enough gear, too far south to have it).

    Ah well! Working NA file issues.

    xxcarol
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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Carol Shenkenberger on Mon Jan 24 14:21:48 2022
    Hello Carol!

    Sunday January 23 2022 23:06, you wrote to me:

    Re: Please add
    By: Vincent Coen to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jan 23 2022 08:01 pm

    Hello Carol!

    Sunday January 23 2022 15:58, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

    Re: Please add
    By: Sean Dennis to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jan 23 2022
    11:12 am

    Hello Carol,

    Saturday January 22 2022 23:55, you wrote to me:

    It's ok. Vince mean's thinking where to hatch a new
    fidonet.na type
    file. One not tied BTW to the elist.

    Makes sense now.

    Another of us seems to be working that file to get
    something
    2022
    out.

    Everythiung will settle out eventually.

    -- Sean

    ... Life should be measured by its breadth, not its length.

    Yes. And real life sometimes impinges. I got a call from Guam
    to
    help with a situation the VADM broght up Saturday that has me
    briefing
    Monday morning. Had to delay some items here to work it out.

    Ah well, back on it now.

    Now being British the abbreviation might not match - confirm VADM =
    Vice Admiral ?

    Just curious and no, was involved in the Air Force.

    Vincent


    Grin, yes. Lt General should be the same. Now my poor boss is
    worried because we have to telework at least part of tomorrow. Snow
    event here and Hampton Roads got a bit hammered on the SE portions.
    As the sun went down, my street is 5inch deep ice with spikey ruts.
    They don't treat side roads here at all (not enough gear, too far
    south to have it).

    Ah well! Working NA file issues.

    In the UK side roads are not even gritted and there is a good reason - Gritting
    vehicles are WIDE side roads are not and even more so with cars and vans parked
    on them as houses do not have enough (if any) off-road parking.

    In turn snow clearance is the same however in the southern areas of the UK snow
    if it does come is not a lot may be a few inches and then only last for a few days before melting one way or another side streets also but you just have to live with it and drive slower.

    In Scotland and the midlands (middle of the UK) it is a different story as they
    can get a lot more snow allowing for winds etc.

    So in the greater London areas and further south it is not a real problem and for people who can and have a garage and the money buy a spare set of car wheels and put on winter tyres and no I have never HAD to and my garage is not large enough to store them with all the other house clutter one has.

    I used to fly (myself) to client sites and a few times I scrounged an aircraft that had snow ski's - it was an entertaining experience even more so when trying to stop as skid turns could be interesting :)

    Usually I avoided the experience as small aircraft do not have good cabin heater and that is a mild understatement - bloody cold and cold is not good
    for a pilot as brain starts to turn off - not a clever idea!

    You are very pleased to land :)

    Remember the higher you fly the colder it is by up to 2c per 1,000 feet.
    It is higher if snowing.

    Don't hold me to the maths, it has been a while and in any event it does vary on location on the earth.

    In the mean while I am working on changes to the elist programs to support all echos including non moderated one's and this I will be changing the way echo data is stored in a file including remove the echo descriptions to their own flat (sequential file) the same as the Rules except in this case these will be maintained on the system only and not passed out as files to sysops like the rules are. Not needed as the reports *.RPT etc will contain all.

    It will reduce the echo record size by 1125 bytes / character as as it
    currenly is 2820 will make it a lot smaller and if we end you with many hundreds if not a thousand or two if the other nets add their echo's to the data base.

    It will also help to create a better text file as a back up that can be transferred to other platforms as and when the elist service is taken up by another.

    It was a right pain to migrate the data from Ben's files and convert back into a data file for processing.

    Another reason why I maintain all echo submissions into archives by year/month.

    Just in case one is needed for any reason and yes have had to do so a few times
    over the last year!

    Vincent

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/1000 to Vincent Coen on Fri Jan 28 22:36:22 2022
    Re: Please add
    By: Vincent Coen to Carol Shenkenberger on Mon Jan 24 2022 01:21 pm


    Grin, not quoting but good work on the elist! Now as to flying that cold? Not me said the southern' gal!

    I'm a bit like a cat. Show me a warm spot and I claim exclusive ownership of it...

    xxcarol
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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Daryl Stout on Sat Jan 29 10:08:50 2022
    Hello Daryl!

    25 Jan 2022 13:41, Daryl Stout wrote to mark lewis:

    Nowadays, folks want everything yesterday.

    incl old precidents claming fake news ? :=)


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)
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