How do I pass a BBS caller from an external mailer (eg.
Frontdoor / BinkleyTerm) to Wildcat v5.00 ?
you dont, you'd need platinum express for windows
On 16 Feb 2021, MARCELINE JONES said the following...
How do I pass a BBS caller from an external mailer (eg.
Frontdoor / BinkleyTerm) to Wildcat v5.00 ?
Ummmm, not frontdoor because it's a DOS based mailer... BUT I'm sure you an with Windows based mailers...
I use to go from BGFax Win32 to WC5 back in the day... I bet some answers could
be in a BGFax doc because the transfer of a call from that program should be no
different. You just can't mix DOS with windows stuff...
An other thought... did you know Digital Man, of SynchroNET fame, wrote a small
app called SexPOTS, I think, and what it does is takes a call, itself, or can
take a hot call passed by a mailer... and send that call via telnet to whatever
address you want the call.
BTW, I know it's your money... but for a 100 bucks you can get the mailer and
echomail tosser companion for the BBS package. Santronics has a sale every now
and then and mark down the prices ...
Anyway, Look at the BGFax docs and see how they did it, I did it 25 years ago
so I know it can be done... Look at SexPOTS and Bink Win/32 as a possible solution... Or spend the 100 bucks and get a complete package... If you were
going to spend the money call Andrea today and say that I heard that hobbyist
sysops are getting a deal on PXW is that true?? See what she says. We're all
just Whores in need of money
Thanks, I will check the documetnation for BGFax.
I am using a virtual modem (COM/IP and NetSerial) so I am hoping to do
it with as few interoperability layers as possible.
I'd prefer not to spend any money.
Who is Andrea ?
How do I pass a BBS caller from an external mailer (eg.
Frontdoor / BinkleyTerm) to Wildcat v5.00 ?
(From what I see there is no "wildcat.exe /b").(1:123/140)
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you dont, you'd need platinum express for windows
Is there any other way to get FTN mail to/from WC5 without using(1:123/140)
Platinum Xpress ?
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I'd prefer not to spend any money.
sysops are getting a deal on PXW is that true?? See what she says. We'rall
just Whores in need of money
Who is Andrea ?
Quoting Robert Wolfe to Marceline Jones <=-
You can't from a regular front end mailer. The only front end mailer that can accept calls (using NetSerial) is Platinum Xpress for
Windows.
Quoting Robert Wolfe to Marceline Jones <=-
you dont, you'd need platinum express for windows
Is there any other way to get FTN mail to/from WC5 without using
Platinum Xpress ?
Not the correct way, no.
Quoting Robert Wolfe to Marceline Jones <=-
I'd prefer not to spend any money.
They you don't need to be running WINServer.
Who is Andrea ?
She runs the sales department at Santronics Software.
Quoting Scott Labrecque to Marceline Jones <=-
you dont, you'd need platinum express for windows
Can I scan new messages from WC5 to Internet Rex, BinkD or D'Bridge ? if so, then what tools do I need to do it ?
I currently do not understand how WC5 can receive a call from an external mailer if there is no command on the WC5 side to receive a live connection. In previous versions of Wildcat the "wildcat.exe" command supported the "/B <baud>" switch to pass a live connection to the BBS.
I just want to clarify WC5, the old version number and name for the current WINServer... It is a windows 32bit program and needs to run
with other 32bit mailer programs.
WC5 AKA Winserver readily answers a modem caller... Does not need a
mailer or any software... it has it built in. The program that starts
the BBS to accept any calls is called wcOnline.exe. Once that is started, assuming you've configured things right, the BBS will accept HTTP, FTP, Telnet & Modem period. For the most part this should look
and fee the same way for all versions... There has been changes since
1990 (Whatever) when WC5 came out... but what I just wrote should be
what you should expect from WC5/WINServer...
NOW, the wildcat.exe sounds like the DOS version of wildcat. I have
been around since day 1 of WC5 project, I have the current version of WINServer and run it, it is not the same as the as the DOS version.
If it is true that you have the DOS version... you can use any DOS
Mailer you want... Frontdoor, Intermail, Binkley... Bla Bla Bla. What
you need is the command line for your batch file to pull up the BBS
after the mailer passes the user the BBS. This is a different
question and it probably can be answered here... If you want me to
answer the question I'll have to download the DOS version and read the docs... I can and will if I have to....
NOW, I'm sorry if you own the current version of Wildcat... the
windows 32bit version... it runs differently... wcOnline.exe and my
mailer pxOnline.exe (Platinum Express) run at the same time... in different windows and a human caller is passed directly to the BBS
without any SysOp intervention... seamless easy as pi.
So, is there a way to pass a human caller, I'm a summing it's a dial
up line with a physical modem... The Windows version... YES... Use any windows mailer, Binkley has one... AND use a program called
SexPOTS.exe and you can have people dial in via modem and it'll be
passed to your BBS via telnet. This is the simplest, easiest and it's free.
Now, as I said, I have been around since day 1 of WC5, not WC4, I have
seen a few things. I have talked about BGFax running as a frontend to WC5... I used it and it worked fine. It's been 25 years and I don't recall how it did it but all I know was that it was easy. Moreover, I
was on the beta team for InterMail and they were working on a mailer
that compatible with WC5 but it never made it into production... The author, Peter, went MIA...
Anyway... to be honest with you... if you have WC5/WINServer just
spend the money and get its partner Platinum Express... it sells for a
100 bucks and it might be the best 100 you spent... Hand in glove
works perfect... BUT even if you had those 2 programs you might need
an other... BinkP or Internet Rex.
Apparently not.... and I wrote all that stuff.... SHIT... in my
Platinum Express directory is an exe called pxmail.exe that you can
run in a batch file and it'll toss and import your fidonet mail....
and I can only assume that it's looking at your PXW setup to know how things are configured.
Great news... I logged onto Santronics BBS and found a program you can use... It's called Kitty Mail. KM1P14.ZIP. I'll put it on my BBS for
you to download if you want. From what I can see it'll scan and toss
your fidonet mail. From what I can see there are some config files
for Binkley... ergo... All you need is the is the windows version of BinkP... It should work with others such as InterNET Rex or
D'bridge... But they have the config files for a Binkley style
mailer...
Ur good to go!!! I do not know anything about this software... I just know that if it works it's the missing link...
One question.... and I'm not trying to talk you out of anything...
your version of WildCat is not supported... There are 2 other BBS
packages out there, Synchronet & Mystic BBS that come absolutely complete... Everything needed and more... and they are currently under development and free... and supported...
I understand that my version of WC5 is a Windows 32-bit GUI application. However my version is apparently not WINServer (as detailed in its connectio
banner). (Notice from the following banners that one says WINServer and the other does not).
My banner:
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Wildcat! for Win95/NT (c) 1995,96 Mustang Software, Inc. All Rights Reserve
Registration number: 00-0000. v5.00. Node: 1. ==================================================
Wildcat 5.3:
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Wildcat! Interactive Net Server (c) 1999 Santronics Software, Inc. Registration number: 00-0000 v5.3.449 (Apr 26 2000) Node: 1 ==================================================
Does SexPOTS work with virtual modems (eg. an inbound call via TCP/IP) ?
Now, as I said, I have been around since day 1 of WC5, not WC4, I have
seen a few things. I have talked about BGFax running as a frontend to WC5... I used it and it worked fine. It's been 25 years and I don't recall how it did it but all I know was that it was easy. Moreover, I was on the beta team for InterMail and they were working on a mailer that compatible with WC5 but it never made it into production... The author, Peter, went MIA...
Is InterMail a Frontdoor clone ? (it looks like a lot like Frontdoor).
Does Platinum Xpress support BinkP ?
If "pxmail.exe" only works with Platinum Xpress then it is no good to me.
My banner:
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Wildcat! for Win95/NT (c) 1995,96 Mustang Software, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Registration number: 00-0000. v5.00. Node: 1. ==================================================
Wildcat 5.3:
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Wildcat! Interactive Net Server (c) 1999 Santronics Software, Inc. Registration number: 00-0000 v5.3.449 (Apr 26 2000) Node: 1 ==================================================
I heard Quintus Corp acquired Mustang SI for $290m in 2000.No. They are not. Quintus accuired assets excluding wildcat/winserver.
Does that mean Andrea is a squillionare ?
I understand that my version of WC5 is a Windows 32-bit GUI application However my version is apparently not WINServer (as detailed in its conn
banner). (Notice from the following banners that one says WINServer and other does not).
My banner:
==================================================
Wildcat! for Win95/NT (c) 1995,96 Mustang Software, Inc. All Rights Re
Registration number: 00-0000. v5.00. Node: 1. ==================================================
I knew we might be missing something...I always just assumed my version was what it was... ready to connect. HTTP/FTP/TelnNET et. al.
Okay... if it's a Dial in BBS then he should be able to use netserial like w
do with PXW & WinServer then... No mailer just WC5 and Ur good to go ... right??
@TID: PX/Win v7.0 PX28-1176Mversion was
@MSGID: 1:116/18 497f2768
@TZUTC: -0600
I knew we might be missing something...I always just assumed my
...what it was... ready to connect. HTTP/FTP/TelnNET et. al.
Okay... if it's a Dial in BBS then he should be able to use netserial like w
do with PXW & WinServer then... No mailer just WC5 and Ur good to go
right??
If he is running a dial in BBS with WINServer, he does not need
NetSerial to handle the incoming call at all. wcOnline will do that on
its own based on the configuration for the modem node in wcConfig. The same thing for PXOnline as well. If either sees a regular modem node,
then it will use the OS' comm drivers to handle that call over the
modem. No NetSerial required since you are using a physical modem and
not a virtual one.
... Sure, you START with stealing only taglines, then...
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That and there are so many bug fixes,etc in the current version over the original 5.0 cd which I still have somewhere as well as the internet connectivity
pack (icp) . They should just contact Sandro nicks and get Andrea to up them
to the current build for proper evaluation
On 2/21/2021 11:09 AM, Robert Wolfe wrote to Ib Joe:
(3:640/1115)@TID: PX/Win v7.0 PX28-1176Mversion was
@MSGID: 1:116/18 497f2768
@TZUTC: -0600
I knew we might be missing something...I always just assumed my
like wwhat it was... ready to connect. HTTP/FTP/TelnNET et. al.
Okay... if it's a Dial in BBS then he should be able to use netserial
...
do with PXW & WinServer then... No mailer just WC5 and Ur good to go
right??
If he is running a dial in BBS with WINServer, he does not need NetSerial to handle the incoming call at all. wcOnline will do that on its own based on the configuration for the modem node in wcConfig. The same thing for PXOnline as well. If either sees a regular modem node, then it will use the OS' comm drivers to handle that call over the modem. No NetSerial required since you are using a physical modem and not a virtual one.
... Sure, you START with stealing only taglines, then...
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I think our good friend Mr. Wolfe solved your problem.... I was wondering wh
you weren't just using WC5's telnet server...
Anyway, Here you go... Why are you not using NetSerial to connect to WC5? e
as pi... easy as pi... Here's a link to a website that will assist you in setting up NetSerial with WC5. It also has other links to get PXW to work b
you made it clear you don't want that.
If you want a mailer, and there is no need to have one today, setup BinkP an
send your mail and files around 99.99% of the people do right now...
I told you in a prior message how you can setup BinkP with mail and or file boxes and it'll work fine...
BTW, Old School... I have the latest version of Renegade BBS, author just released updates... this release has switches for NetSerial... Autor of D'Bridge uses Renegade... so ....
http://renegadebbs.info
https://www.dbridgemailer.com/
D'Bridge has BinkP built into it...
All free...
IB Joe
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of Joe's BBS
-=JoesBBS.com=-
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I think you mean the D'Bridge support BBS uses Renegade. D'Bridge
uses, well, D'Bridge and binkd :)
I agree with you Joe. Im using Irex and I'll be moving to D'bridge one
of these day's. Its a wonderful thing to have People upgrading there
older software!
--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB064B
I've been at this for 30 years... OMG... Maybe there'll be a serge in useLol I like that Joe. So funny!
if Big Tech keeps censoring people. I can't wait... Keep looking out window while drinking coffee ... Thinking ... Build it and they will
Sam
Joe its not alot we can do about it! Just keep trying. There are moreserge inI've been at this for 30 years... OMG... Maybe there'll be a
looking outuse
if Big Tech keeps censoring people. I can't wait... Keep
willwindow while drinking coffee ... Thinking ... Build it and they
Joe its not alot we can do about it! Just keep trying. There are more
and more bbs everyday and we lose some everyday. I enjoy messing
around with bbs's or I wouldnt be doing it. I look it as a way to try
and keep the mind working. If I didnt have this I would be bored out
of mind.
Sam
Joe its not alot we can do about it! Just keep trying. There are more
and more bbs everyday and we lose some everyday. I enjoy messing
around with bbs's or I wouldnt be doing it. I look it as a way to try
and keep the mind working. If I didnt have this I would be bored out
of mind.
Sam
I agree. It just sucks that the guy that worked on EzyCom is noI think he had a hardware failure where the code was hard to recover.
longer working on it. It's a solid piece of software.
Can the wcICP for Wildcat 5.00 still be obtained ?
Sounds like it will work with Wildcat 5.0 since this version [surprisingly] comes with a telnet server (contrary to the documentation).
Yeah, Dale Barnes is the current author of InterMail and InterEcho. There WAS a third party mailer that worked like PX/WINS called Mail-Ennium/32, but it went the way of the dodo.
Why would a 3rd party mailer need to work with Platinum Xpress ? it just nee to (1) handle mail and (2) have a compatible tosser/scanner right ?
Does paying $100 for something that does not do BinkP sound right to you ?
Can PXECHO.EXE work with a mailer other than Platinum Xpress ?
You cannot use a DOS mailer with a Windows 32bit program. Use a Windows mailer and you'll be able to achieve what you want. SexPOTS with a Windows based mailer will work fine. BTW, if you ran your WC4 BBS use D'bridge because it has Binkp built right into it...
Does SexPOTS work with virtual modems (eg. an inbound call via TCP/IP
If SexPOTS forwards connections via telnet then it should be able to pass callers from a DOS mailer to wcOnline right (because there is no issue with direct serial port access or FOSSIL required) ?
I think so... it had px in front of the name... all of my fidonet setup is in Platinum Express...
I have uploaded 2 files on my BBS that will toss fidonet mail for wc5
Can you provide the filenames ?
You cannot use a DOS mailer with a Windows 32bit program. Use a Windows mailer and you'll be able to achieve what you want. SexPOTS with a Windows based mailer will work fine. BTW, if you ran your WC4 BBS use D'bridge because it has Binkp built right into it...
Does SexPOTS work with virtual modems (eg. an inbound call via TCP/IP)
If SexPOTS forwards connections via telnet then it should be able to pass callers from a DOS mailer to wcOnline right (because there is no issue with direct serial port access or FOSSIL required) ?
I think so... it had px in front of the name... all of my fidonet setup is in Platinum Express...
I have uploaded 2 files on my BBS that will toss fidonet mail for wc5
Can you provide the filenames ?
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Joe, the problem she has is she's runnning 5.0, not 5.3+ which has the ICP(Internet connectivity package) built into it. originally it was an option
Joe, the problem she has is she's runnning 5.0, not 5.3+ which has the ICP(Internet connectivity package) built into it. originally it was an option(3:640/1115)
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BTW, I have PXW running with WINServer... if you were to call that
port PXW would hangup on you and say it's a mail only line. There is no need to have a mailer with the BBS to process human callers... I have 12 nodes and one is eaten up with mail processes... and that leaves me with 10 nodes more than I currently need.
You are not fully utilising Platinum Xpress if you are not enabling BBS callers.
You are not fully utilising Platinum Xpress if you are not enabling BBS callers.
This is not true. Why enable callers on a PX node with NetSerial when port 23 is open for human callers all day long? It is a good idea to leave PX running on another port and let that be for FTN calls only
and leave port 23 or a port other than what PX/NetSerial is listening
on and leave NetSerial connections open for FTN calls only. This is common practice these days.
kind of setup. In this setup I have PXW working on 1 of my 12 nodes... mainly because having PXW working on all my nodes will not improve the user experience... BTW, I have only started using PXW again.... and
doing so did not increase the user experience .... It's just not
needed with todays systems..
You cannot mix a DOS mailer with a Windows based modem program... that's it... download, setup, and test this yourself it does not work
I believe it can be done. But it depends on how SexPOTS was coded. I am clarifying these details with the author.
Good luck...
Why do you "NEED" to have users press esc twice?? Why is these this "NEED" for that?? You won't be impressed with PXW then... it doesn't
make the user press escape twice ... call my BBS JoesBBS.com port
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From what I have seen so far, SexPOTS does not look like it will work with a DOS mailer. Oh well.
I do not use BBS's because they are needed. I use them because they are there.
From what I have seen so far, SexPOTS does not look like it will workNope... and from what I have been reading you understand that NET2BBS is the program for you...
with a DOS mailer. Oh well.
That is one reason why I am not impressed with Platinum Xpress. I wantGreat... D'Bridge with WC4 is your answer...
to show off the fact that I am running a frontend mailer.
You are not fully utilising Platinum Xpress if you are not enabling BBS callers.
This is not true. Why enable callers on a PX node with NetSerial when port 23 is open for human callers all day long? It is a good idea to leave PX running on another port and let that be for FTN calls only and leave port 23 or a port other than what PX/NetSerial is listening on and leave NetSerial connections open for FTN calls only. This is common practice these days.
Does Platinum Xpress display a banner ?
This is what Frondoor says:
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FrontDoor 2.02; Noncommercial version
Press Escape twice for RemoteAccess
Loading the BBS ...
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Does Platinum Xpress display a banner ?
This is what Frondoor says:
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FrontDoor 2.02; Noncommercial version
Press Escape twice for RemoteAccess
Loading the BBS ...
==================================================
Yes, it does.
I want to show off the fact that I am running a frontend mailer.
at best, maybe 1% would even notice or care and that's being quite generous with the eWAG...
Just curious, what your bbsÿ address is
i edited who is online.wcx an html-who.wcx to reflectvthat nodes aee being used for mail. you can make a page that pxw can display if
you directly telnet to it as well
My version of Wildcat does not come with any *.wcx files.
But Platinum Xpress being able to display something is better than nothing.
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Sysop: | Coz |
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Location: | Anoka, MN |
Users: | 2 |
Nodes: | 4 (0 / 4) |
Uptime: | 20:07:57 |
Calls: | 97 |
Files: | 4,642 |
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