• Star Trek Discovery

    From Al Kaiser@1:142/926 to All on Tue Mar 31 06:43:44 2020
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    That's all for now!

    Al Kaiser - Meriden, CT, 31-Mar-2020 at 6:44.
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  • From Al Kaiser@1:142/926 to All on Tue Mar 31 06:46:24 2020
    I just finished watching the first two seasons of Star Trek DIscovery on DVD from Netflix.

    It is NOT Gene Roddenberry's Trek! I do not think that he would have approved of this series. First of all for the language. In all of Trek I only remember one out and out cuss when the ship was crashing into the planet Data said "Oh Shit!" This one has out and out swearing including the "F" word. Also open gay kissing. The suggestion of "gaity" is OK but to have two male or female character kiss on screen is a no-no. Also there were aliens in this series that were never seen again in all of Trek. The whole Klingon war thing in the first season was wrong. This Trek was supposed to be a bridge between Enterprise with Archer and TOS with Kirk. The war with the Klingons was over and we were in a truce, a cold war. Remember The Trouble With Tribbles? That was the way we were with the Klingons. The Klingon makeup and laanguae was all wrong. The Klingon home planet was wrong. The home planet in Trek was "Kling" not Kronos. Kronos came later in the series. Finally the out and out violence. Murder by the fedration? I think not. They made Mudd an out and out criminal that should have been given the death sentence or at least a life sentence. They made him a murder rather than just a scrondrel.

    Spock, who was a large part of season two never had a step-sister. He had a half brother who was never mentioned. I saw only three references to TOS one was Mudd and the other whas when Pike picked up the future Spike and saw himself disfigured, also Vena and the Talosians were in the mix. They tried to get back to Trek cannon in the last two scenes in Part II of Sweet Sorrow when they had a scene on the bridge of the Entrprise as it appease, (modernly), when Pike was Captain and Spock was the Lt. Science Officer.

    THey tried to write off all that happened over the two years by sending the Discovery and her crew into the future. For anyone left they were resticted "under penalty of death" of every taking or mentioning Discovery and the events that happened in the first two seasons. Even Sarek and Amanda were self quarrentined from talking about it calling them "Ambasadors To the Federation." Sarek was an Ambasador, Amanda never was.

    Was this a two year effort with no more seasons of Discovery? How do you have a season 3 when Discovery and all her crew is dead or gone?

    Well I'm waiting for "Picard" to come out on DVD. A friend says it is very
    good and is "good Trek". Though I do have a disagrement that Data was blown
    to smithereens in the last movie, but he said that Data was reconstruced from DNA taken when they tried to disassemble him when Picard fought to call him sentient. We'll see about that one.

    Below the first and only official Discovery tagline I was able to gleen from the series.

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    Cheers!

    Al Kaiser - Meriden, CT, 31-Mar-2020 at 6:46.
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  • From Gary Ailes@1:129/328 to Al Kaiser on Tue Mar 31 15:23:48 2020
    On 31 Mar 2020, Al Kaiser said the following...
    the "F" word. Also open gay kissing. The suggestion of "gaity" is OK but to have two male or female character kiss on screen is a no-no.

    Since Roddenberry featured the first interracial kiss on American TV, I
    suspect he would have had no problem with openly gay affections.

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  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to Gary Ailes on Wed Apr 1 13:33:44 2020
    On 31 Mar 2020, Gary Ailes said the following...

    Since Roddenberry featured the first interracial kiss on American TV, I suspect he would have had no problem with openly gay affections.

    I tend to agree. Each of the series (TOS, TNG, etc) reflects TV and society
    as a whole at the time it aired, sometimes on the leading edges. Profanity was not as accepted on television as it is now, thus we didn't see much of it in prior shows.

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  • From Daniel@1:340/7 to Al Kaiser on Mon Apr 20 05:13:00 2020
    Al Kaiser wrote to All <=-

    I just finished watching the first two seasons of Star Trek DIscovery
    on DVD from Netflix.

    I forgot netflix still delivers DVD. We cancelled the streaming service
    about two years ago and we're happy about it.

    It is NOT Gene Roddenberry's Trek! I do not think that he would have approved of this series. First of all for the language. In all of
    Trek I only remember one out and out cuss when the ship was crashing
    into the planet Data said "Oh Shit!" This one has out and out swearing including the "F" word. Also open gay kissing. The suggestion of "gaity" is OK but to have two male or female character kiss on screen
    is a no-no. Also there were aliens in this series that were never seen again in all of Trek. The whole Klingon war thing in the first season
    was wrong. This Trek was supposed to be a bridge between Enterprise
    with Archer and TOS with Kirk. The war with the Klingons was over and
    we were in a truce, a cold war. Remember The Trouble With Tribbles?
    That was the way we were with the Klingons. The Klingon makeup and laanguae was all wrong. The Klingon home planet was wrong. The home planet in Trek was "Kling" not Kronos. Kronos came later in the
    series. Finally the out and out violence. Murder by the fedration?
    I think not. They made Mudd an out and out criminal that should have been given the death sentence or at least a life sentence. They made
    him a murder rather than just a scrondrel.

    Don't forget Star Trek IV. "Why don't you watch where you're going you dumbass!" "Well a double-dumbass on you!!!"

    Then the following conversation on colorful metaphors. Great movie that way.

    Spock, who was a large part of season two never had a step-sister. He
    had a half brother who was never mentioned. I saw only three
    references to TOS one was Mudd and the other whas when Pike picked up
    the future Spike and saw himself disfigured, also Vena and the
    Talosians were in the mix. They tried to get back to Trek cannon in
    the last two scenes in Part II of Sweet Sorrow when they had a scene on the bridge of the Entrprise as it appease, (modernly), when Pike was Captain and Spock was the Lt. Science Officer.

    I've seen some scene clips on youtube and Spock smiles too much. Pissed me
    off. Not sure what that's about.

    THey tried to write off all that happened over the two years by sending the Discovery and her crew into the future. For anyone left they were resticted "under penalty of death" of every taking or mentioning
    Discovery and the events that happened in the first two seasons. Even Sarek and Amanda were self quarrentined from talking about it calling
    them "Ambasadors To the Federation." Sarek was an Ambasador, Amanda
    never was.

    Was this a two year effort with no more seasons of Discovery? How do
    you have a season 3 when Discovery and all her crew is dead or gone?

    Well I'm waiting for "Picard" to come out on DVD. A friend says it is
    very good and is "good Trek". Though I do have a disagrement that Data was blown to smithereens in the last movie, but he said that Data was reconstruced from DNA taken when they tried to disassemble him when
    Picard fought to call him sentient. We'll see about that one.

    I'm hearing the Picard show is all about Stewart saying 'F U' to Trump.
    Oh, gawd, I really crave star trek as I knew it growing up.


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  • From Dumas Walker@1:2320/105 to DANIEL on Mon Apr 20 14:31:00 2020
    I'm hearing the Picard show is all about Stewart saying 'F U' to Trump.
    Oh, gawd, I really crave star trek as I knew it growing up.

    That is all we need... another show to do that! :D

    Mike


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  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to Dumas Walker on Mon Apr 20 22:14:42 2020
    On 20 Apr 2020, Dumas Walker said the following...

    I'm hearing the Picard show is all about Stewart saying 'F U' to Trump. Oh, gawd, I really crave star trek as I knew it growing up.

    That is all we need... another show to do that! :D

    I enjoyed it personally. I tend to not read too much into the political messages in modern entertainment and just enjoy the entertainment itself.

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  • From Daniel@1:340/7 to Dumas Walker on Mon Apr 20 18:11:00 2020
    Dumas Walker wrote to DANIEL <=-

    I'm hearing the Picard show is all about Stewart saying 'F U' to Trump.
    Oh, gawd, I really crave star trek as I knew it growing up.


    That is all we need... another show to do that! :D

    What can I say? I'm a fan of the original series.


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  • From Charles Pierson@2:240/1120.976 to Charles Stephenson on Wed Jul 29 09:26:50 2020
    Hello, Charles Stephenson.
    On 7/28/20 4:10 AM you wrote:

    Hello! Anyone else excited to see the new season??

    Interested for sure. I want to see how they go with it.

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  • From Charles Stephenson@1:226/17 to Charles Pierson on Fri Aug 14 21:18:48 2020
    Re: Star Trek Discovery
    By: Charles Pierson to Charles Stephenson on Wed Jul 29 2020 09:26 am

    Hello, Charles Stephenson.
    On 7/28/20 4:10 AM you wrote:

    Hello! Anyone else excited to see the new season??

    Interested for sure. I want to see how they go with it.


    ME too, which how season 1 ended they could take it a lot of different ways. I forgot, when is the new season starting?

    cancelled my CBS subscription til it comes on again. :)
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  • From Charles Pierson@2:240/1120.976 to Charles Stephenson on Sat Aug 15 01:08:26 2020
    Hello, Charles Stephenson.
    On 8/14/20 9:18 PM you wrote:

    Hello, Charles Stephenson. On 7/28/20 4:10 AM you wrote:
    Hello! Anyone else excited to see the new season??
    Interested for sure. I want to see how they go with it.
    ME too, which how season 1 ended they could take it a lot of
    different ways. I forgot, when is the new season starting?

    Season 3 starts October 15 I believe.

    cancelled my CBS subscription til it comes on again. :)

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  • From Charles Stephenson@1:226/17 to Charles Pierson on Tue Sep 1 09:08:06 2020
    Re: Star Trek Discovery
    By: Charles Pierson to Charles Stephenson on Sat Aug 15 2020 01:08 am

    Hello! Anyone else excited to see the new season??
    Interested for sure. I want to see how they go with it.
    ME too, which how season 1 ended they could take it a lot of
    different ways. I forgot, when is the new season starting?

    Season 3 starts October 15 I believe.

    *SIGH*

    that seems SOOOOOO long away! lol
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