I have installed Linux on a virtual machine and have compiled SBBS on it. However, SBBS is not starting. SCFG will run and I have my settings as they are on my windows machine. Any idea why SBBS does not run?
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I have installed Linux on a virtual machine and have compiled
SBBS on it. However, SBBS is not starting. SCFG will run and I
have my settings as they are on my windows machine. Any idea why
SBBS does not run?

The question cannot be answered without more information...

How are you trying to start it? What command line? What error message
do you see? What does actually happen when you try to start it?



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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Gamgee to Ghost on Sun Sep 25 2022 09:17 pm

I have tried just clicking on it and also running from command line. Nothing appears to happen and I get no error messages
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Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to All on Sun Sep 25 2022 13:53:08

I have installed Linux on a virtual machine and have compiled SBBS on it. However, SBBS is not starting. SCFG will run and I
have my settings as they are on my windows machine. Any idea why SBBS does not run?

what does /var/log/syslog say and the error log?

i am going to assume that you are running it as a non-root user and you havent done the setcap command so the binding to the < 1024 ports will be denied as you aren't running it as root

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I am able to run gtkmonitor, which appears to be the GUI for SBBS, but when doing so, I get a "cannot create .ini file." Also, if I click on "user" in the monitor, it says "environment error". And last but not least, in the GTKmonitor, all the nodes show "Error reading node data (2)." If I attempt to clear the error, I get a message "Read error"
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Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Charles Blackburn to Ghost on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:29 pm

I have installed Linux on a virtual machine and have compiled SBBS
on it. However, SBBS is not starting. SCFG will run and I have my
settings as they are on my windows machine. Any idea why SBBS does
not run?

what does /var/log/syslog say and the error log?

i am going to assume that you are running it as a non-root user and you havent done the setcap command so the binding to the < 1024 ports will be denied as you aren't running it as root

Even in that case, sbbs would still start up, and it would report being unable to bind to the ports it needs.

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Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to All on Sun Sep 25 2022 01:53 pm

I have installed Linux on a virtual machine and have compiled SBBS on it. However, SBBS is not starting. SCFG will run and I have my settings as they are on my windows machine. Any idea why SBBS does not run?

No idea without more information from you: what happens when you run 'sbbs' from a command-line?
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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Gamgee on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:54 pm

Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Gamgee to Ghost on Sun Sep 25 2022 09:17 pm

I have tried just clicking on it and also running from command line. Nothing appears to happen and I get no error messages

Clicking on *what* exactly? Running *what* from the command-line?
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Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Gamgee on Sun Sep 25 2022 08:56 pm

I am able to run gtkmonitor, which appears to be the GUI for SBBS, but when doing so, I get a "cannot create .ini file." Also, if I click on "user" in the monitor, it says "environment error". And last but not least, in the GTKmonitor, all the nodes show "Error reading node data (2)." If I attempt to clear the error, I get a message "Read error"

gtkmonitor is just a monitor, it's not the BBS itself. Start with running 'sbbs' successfully. Once you've done that, then you can start experimenting with monitoring methods/programs.
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Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Nightfox to Charles Blackburn on Mon Sep 26 2022 08:51:06

By: Charles Blackburn to Ghost on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:29 pm

what does /var/log/syslog say and the error log?
i am going to assume that you are running it as a non-root user and you havent done the setcap command so the binding
to the < 1024 ports will be denied as you aren't running it as root

Even in that case, sbbs would still start up, and it would report being unable to bind to the ports it needs.

Correct.. UNLESS he compiled it as root and is trying to run it as "sbbs".

then all the files would be owned by root and not the user and as i said unless he looked at syslog he wouldn't know.

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Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Mon Sep 26 2022 02:10 pm

Even in that case, sbbs would still start up, and it would report being

Correct.. UNLESS he compiled it as root and is trying to run it as "sbbs".

Yes, but sbbs should at least run and do something. He said sbbs is not starting, but I find that a little hard to believe.

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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Digital Man to Ghost on Mon Sep 26 2022 11:47 am

clicking on the SBBS.exe
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Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Nightfox to Charles Blackburn on Mon Sep 26 2022 05:55 pm

If it is running, I am not seeing anything. I thought there would be some kind of display. Maybe not the same as windows, but something
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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Digital Man on Mon Sep 26 2022 07:03 pm

Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Digital Man to Ghost on Mon Sep 26 2022 11:47 am

clicking on the SBBS.exe

Are you sure about that? "SBBS.exe" sounds like the name of the Synchronet BBS executable for Windows, not Linux.
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Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Nightfox on Mon Sep 26 2022 07:15 pm

Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Nightfox to Charles Blackburn on Mon Sep 26 2022 05:55 pm

If it is running, I am not seeing anything. I thought there would be some kind of display. Maybe not the same as windows, but something

If it's running as a daemon (in the background), then you wouldn't see anything unless you use a monitoring program or method as described here:
https://wiki.synchro.net/monitor:index

Just like if you run Synchronet as a service on Windows.
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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Digital Man to Ghost on Mon Sep 26 2022 10:18 pm

Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Digital Man on Mon Sep 26 2022 07:03 pm

Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Digital Man to Ghost on Mon Sep 26 2022 11:47 am

clicking on the SBBS.exe

Are you sure about that? "SBBS.exe" sounds like the name of the Synchronet BBS executable for Windows, not Linux.

Additionally, if you want to know what the status or errors displayed of a console program are on Linux (such as 'sbbs'), run it from the command-line, don't "click" on it.
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Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Nightfox on Mon Sep 26 2022 07:15 pm

If it is running, I am not seeing anything. I thought there would be some kind of display. Maybe not the same as windows, but something

If what is running?

Also can you quote the part of the message you're replying to? It can be difficult to follow a conversation if you don't quote what you're replying to.

If it's sbbs you're referring to, something should happen when you run sbbs.. Can you give more information? What exactly happens when you run sbbs? Does it just sit there and do nothing? Does it quit and return you back to the command prompt?

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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Digital Man on Mon Sep 26 2022 07:03 pm

clicking on the SBBS.exe

.exe? Are you trying to run the Windows version of Synchronet on Linux? That's not going to run natively on Linux, and if it's not running, that would explain why.

You need to be running the Linux build. Linux executables don't have an .exe extension on their filename.

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Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Nightfox to Charles Blackburn on Mon Sep 26 2022 17:55:27

Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Mon Sep 26 2022 02:10 pm

Even in that case, sbbs would still start up, and it would report being

Correct.. UNLESS he compiled it as root and is trying to run it as "sbbs".

Yes, but sbbs should at least run and do something. He said sbbs is not starting, but I find that a little hard to believe.

exactly.

that's why i said to look in the log files (syslog and error.log)

outside of that information, really hard to help.

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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Digital Man to Ghost on Mon Sep 26 2022 10:18 pm

OK. Maybe it is not .exe. but it is apparently the executable for sbbs. It is in the /sbbs/exec directory
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Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Digital Man to Ghost on Mon Sep 26 2022 10:19 pm

So how do i get it to not run as a daemon?
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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Digital Man to Ghost on Mon Sep 26 2022 10:20 pm

Being new to Linux, I have to ask the question "How do i run it from the command line?" just typeing SBBS doesn't seem to work
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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Digital Man on Tue Sep 27 2022 11:06 am

OK. Maybe it is not .exe. but it is apparently the executable for sbbs. It is in the /sbbs/exec directory

Is your system not showing you the full filenames? You should be able to see whether the filename has an .exe or not.

Still, what do you mean when you say it's not running? Does it just hang and do nothing, or does it return you to the command prompt? Does it show any errors?

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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Digital Man on Tue Sep 27 2022 11:09 am

Being new to Linux, I have to ask the question "How do i run it from the command line?" just typeing SBBS doesn't seem to work

You need to fully-path it, even if it's in th same directory. Also, Linux is case-sensitive. The executable is all lowerscase (sbbs), so SBBS wouldn't work.

You'd run it like this:
./sbbs

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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Digital Man to Ghost on Mon Sep 26 2022 10:18 pm

OK. Maybe it is not .exe. but it is apparently the executable for
sbbs. It is in the /sbbs/exec directory

Do you really think you should be attempting this in Linux...?



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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Nightfox to Ghost on Tue Sep 27 2022 01:48 pm

Nightfox

You need to fully-path it, even if it's in th same directory. Also, Linux is case-sensitive. The executable is all lowerscase (sbbs), so SBBS wouldn't work.

You'd run it like this:
./sbbs

Because I am having all these problems, I deleted and recreated the Linux virtual machine.
The reason I was running under root is because I can't create an sbbs directory under user.
I am following the instructions for installing under linux from the wiki. However, when I do
the "sudo adduser sbbs" that works fine. I switch to the sbbs user (su sbbs) and try to create
the sbbs directory (mkdir /sbbs) but I get an error message saying "cannot create directory 'sbbs'
:permission denied." I tried "sudo mkdir /sbbs", and Linux asks for the password which I supply and
I get the error "sbbs is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." So, following the
instructions is not working as laid out. This is all before attempting to install sbbs again. I don't
know how to add sbbs user to the sudoers file and I can't create the /sbbs directory under the sbbs
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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Gamgee to Ghost on Tue Sep 27 2022 09:18 pm

Yes, I do think I should be attempting it in Linux, since I want to learn Linux and I already know how the bulletin board works in windows.
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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Nightfox on Tue Sep 27 2022 19:22:13

Because I am having all these problems, I deleted and recreated the Linux virtual machine.
The reason I was running under root is because I can't create an sbbs directory under user.
I am following the instructions for installing under linux from the wiki. However, when I do
the "sudo adduser sbbs" that works fine. I switch to the sbbs user (su sbbs) and try to create
the sbbs directory (mkdir /sbbs) but I get an error message saying "cannot create directory 'sbbs'
:permission denied." I tried "sudo mkdir /sbbs", and Linux asks for the password which I supply and
I get the error "sbbs is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." So, following the
instructions is not working as laid out. This is all before attempting to install sbbs again. I don't
know how to add sbbs user to the sudoers file and I can't create the /sbbs directory under the sbbs
user.

that would be codrrect because a regular user can't create a direct in the root.... you either need to make the home directory /sbbs when you create the user, or create /sbbs as root and then chown sbbs.sbbs /sbbs and chmod 755 /sbbs to make ir writeable by the sbbs user

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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Gamgee to Ghost on Tue Sep 27 2022 09:18 pm

Yes, I do think I should be attempting it in Linux, since I want
to learn Linux and I already know how the bulletin board works in
windows.

That's all fine and good. My point, however, is that you've got to be
at least a *little* capable of using Linux before you try to run the
BBS. Based on your previous questions here, you do not even have the
very *BASIC* level of Linux knowledge needed to run something which is (relatively) complicated like SBBS under Linux.

Another quick request - if you would please learn how to quote some of
the message to which you are replying... you'd get much better responses
to your questions.

Again, I recommend this: 1. Learn the basics of Linux. 2. Run SBBS
under Linux. The two steps need to be done in that order...

Good luck!



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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Nightfox on Tue Sep 27 2022 07:22 pm

sbbs" that works fine. I switch to the sbbs user (su sbbs) and try to create the sbbs directory (mkdir /sbbs) but I get an error message saying "cannot create directory 'sbbs' :permission denied." I tried "sudo mkdir

That's because you're trying to make sbbs from the root directory. Usually you wouldn't do that. You should create the sbbs directory within the sbbs user's directory. Right after doing "su sbbs", you should be placed in the sbbs user's directory, and then if you do "mkdir sbbs" (without the /), then it would create the sbbs directory there. To verify what directory you're in, run this command:
pwd
After doing "su sbbs", it should show you're in /home/sbbs.

If you want to run Synchronet in Linux, perhaps you should learn a bit about Linux and how Linux works.

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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Nightfox on Tue Sep 27 2022 07:22 pm

sbbs" that works fine. I switch to the sbbs user (su sbbs) and try to create the sbbs directory (mkdir /sbbs) but I get an error message saying "cannot create directory 'sbbs' :permission denied." I tried "sudo mkdir

That's because you're trying to make sbbs from the root
directory. Usually you wouldn't do that. You should create the
sbbs directory within the sbbs user's directory. Right after
doing "su sbbs", you should be placed in the sbbs user's
directory, and then if you do "mkdir sbbs" (without the /), then
it would create the sbbs directory there. To verify what
directory you're in, run this command: pwd
After doing "su sbbs", it should show you're in /home/sbbs.

In the newbie's defense (which I do hesitantly), the Wiki could use some corrections on this... It does indeed say to create the /sbbs directory
while logged in as a normal user. This of course won't work, but
anybody with some Linux knowledge would make that as root and then
'chown sbbs:sbbs /sbbs' ... I'm not a fan of running it in a user's
home directory, although specifiying the proper environment (via
SBBSCTRL) should handle that; but it makes things more complicated IMHO.

If you want to run Synchronet in Linux, perhaps you should learn
a bit about Linux and how Linux works.

Absolutely no doubt about that! ;-)



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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Wed Sep 28 2022 02:14 pm

In the newbie's defense (which I do hesitantly), the Wiki could use some corrections on this... It does indeed say to create the /sbbs directory while logged in as a normal user. This of course won't work, but
anybody with some Linux knowledge would make that as root and then
'chown sbbs:sbbs /sbbs' ... I'm not a fan of running it in a user's
home directory, although specifiying the proper environment (via SBBSCTRL) should handle that; but it makes things more complicated IMHO.

Ah.. I did look at the UNIX installation instructions on the wiki when I moved my BBS to Linux, though I must have missed the part where it said to create the directory as /sbbs (from the root directory). If you're going to create a 'sbbs' user account to run it, I thought that perhaps the idea was to run Synchronet from /home/sbbs/sbbs.. But other servers do tend to have their directory somewhere else in the system, so perhaps having it in /sbbs does make sense.

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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Wed Sep 28 2022 02:14 pm

a bit about Linux and how Linux works.

Absolutely no doubt about that! ;-)

I am working on that and thanks for the input
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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Wed Sep 28 2022 14:14:00

In the newbie's defense (which I do hesitantly), the Wiki could use some corrections on this... It does indeed say to create
the /sbbs directory
while logged in as a normal user. This of course won't work, but

yes completely agree with that. not sure how easy it is to edit it - ie like wikipedia or whether DM is the only one that can edit it.

anybody with some Linux knowledge would make that as root and then
'chown sbbs:sbbs /sbbs' ... I'm not a fan of running it in a user's
home directory, although specifiying the proper environment (via SBBSCTRL) should handle that; but it makes things more complicated IMHO.

to be honest... my sbbs users home directory is /sbbs.... i did that when i added the user to the system, but im kinda old school and also set the groups etc to "users" ... i have a personal pet peeve to have a separate "user group" .

If you want to run Synchronet in Linux, perhaps you should learn
a bit about Linux and how Linux works.

for sure.

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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Wed Sep 28 2022 14:14:00

In the newbie's defense (which I do hesitantly), the Wiki could use some

co

rrections on this... It does indeed say to create the /sbbs directory

while logged in as a normal user. This of course won't work, but

yes completely agree with that. not sure how easy it is to edit
it - ie like wikipedia or whether DM is the only one that can
edit it.

I think others can edit it, but not completely sure.

anybody with some Linux knowledge would make that as root and then
'chown sbbs:sbbs /sbbs' ... I'm not a fan of running it in a user's
home directory, although specifiying the proper environment (via
SBBSCTRL) should handle that; but it makes things more complicated IMHO.

to be honest... my sbbs users home directory is /sbbs.... i did
that when i added the user to the system, but im kinda old school
and also set the groups etc to "users" ... i have a personal pet
peeve to have a separate "user group" .

I agree with having a generic "users" group for most users, and do that
on my normal systems. On the BBS machine I figured having that more restrictive method (sbbs:sbbs) adds a small layer of security since
other people that I don't really know will be connecting to that
machine. I also run the BBS from /sbbs and not a user's home directory.


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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Digital Man on Tue Sep 27 2022 11:06 am

Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Digital Man to Ghost on Mon Sep 26 2022 10:18 pm

OK. Maybe it is not .exe. but it is apparently the executable for sbbs. It is in the /sbbs/exec directory

Okay. You still haven't said what happens when you run it from a command prompt.
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Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Digital Man on Tue Sep 27 2022 11:07 am

Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Digital Man to Ghost on Mon Sep 26 2022 10:19 pm

So how do i get it to not run as a daemon?

If you just run exec/sbbs, that's the default (not daemonized).
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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Digital Man on Tue Sep 27 2022 11:09 am

Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Digital Man to Ghost on Mon Sep 26 2022 10:20 pm

Being new to Linux, I have to ask the question "How do i run it from the command line?" just typeing SBBS doesn't seem to work

You would have to type the path to 'sbbs' (not 'SBBS'), e.g. /sbbs/exec/sbbs
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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Nightfox on Tue Sep 27 2022 07:22 pm

Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Nightfox to Ghost on Tue Sep 27 2022 01:48 pm

Nightfox

You need to fully-path it, even if it's in th same directory. Also, Linux is case-sensitive. The executable is all lowerscase (sbbs), so SBBS wouldn't work.

You'd run it like this:
./sbbs

Because I am having all these problems, I deleted and recreated the Linux virtual machine.
The reason I was running under root is because I can't create an sbbs directory under user.

When you say "sbbs directory under user" it sounds like you're talking about the user/sbbs directory, but later in this message it's clear youre talking about /sbbs (or "sbbs directory under root"). You don't *have* to have sbbs installed under the root directory. Installing under the user's home directory works just as well.

I am following the instructions for installing under linux from the wiki. However, when I do
the "sudo adduser sbbs" that works fine. I switch to the sbbs user (su sbbs) and try to create
the sbbs directory (mkdir /sbbs) but I get an error message saying "cannot create directory 'sbbs'
:permission denied." I tried "sudo mkdir /sbbs", and Linux asks for the password which I supply and
I get the error "sbbs is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." So, following the
instructions is not working as laid out. This is all before attempting to install sbbs again. I don't
know how to add sbbs user to the sudoers file

"visudo" is the command to edit the sudores file.

and I can't create the /sbbs
directory under the sbbs
user.

/home/sbbs/sbbs (or pretty much any ohter directory) would work just as well.

As the wiki says:
"You must create the directory where Synchronet will live. Some common locations would be the home directory of the Run-as User (e.g. /home/sbbs/sbbs) or the system root directory (e.g. /sbbs)."

It doesn't *have* to be /sbbs or /home/sbbs/sbbs, those are just suggestions. --
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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Charles Blackburn to Gamgee on Wed Sep 28 2022 07:28 pm

In the newbie's defense (which I do hesitantly), the Wiki could use some corrections on this... It does indeed say to create
the /sbbs directory
while logged in as a normal user. This of course won't work, but

yes completely agree with that. not sure how easy it is to edit it - ie like wikipedia or whether DM is the only one that can edit it.

Anyone with a user account (or QWKnet account) on Vertrauen can authenticate and edit the Synchronet wiki.

That said, I don't think the wiki is misleading. /sbbs is just an example and it says so.
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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Digital Man to Ghost on Fri Sep 30 2022 01:29 am

./sbbs: line 34: ifndef: command not found
./sbbs: line 35: ifndef: command not found
./sbbs: line 36: RELEASE: command not found
./sbbs: line 37: endif: command not found
./sbbs: line 38: endif: command not found
./sbbs: line 40: ifdef: command not found
./sbbs: line 41: INSBIN: command not found
./sbbs: line 42: syntax error near unexpected token `else'
./sbbs: line 42: `else'

DM >Okay. You still haven't said what happens when you run it from a command prompt.

above is what I am getting now after reinstalling, but before I reinstalled, I wasn't getting any errors but it also wasn't going back to the command line. It just sat there
Obviously something didn't compile right even though I didn't get any errors. I will try compiling it again and see what happens.
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Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Ghost to Digital Man on Fri Sep 30 2022 10:21 am

Re: Re: Linux and SBBS
By: Digital Man to Ghost on Fri Sep 30 2022 01:29 am

./sbbs: line 34: ifndef: command not found
./sbbs: line 35: ifndef: command not found
./sbbs: line 36: RELEASE: command not found
./sbbs: line 37: endif: command not found
./sbbs: line 38: endif: command not found
./sbbs: line 40: ifdef: command not found
./sbbs: line 41: INSBIN: command not found
./sbbs: line 42: syntax error near unexpected token `else'
./sbbs: line 42: `else'

DM >Okay. You still haven't said what happens when you run it from a command prompt.

above is what I am getting now after reinstalling,

You did something wrong. What directory were you in when you ran './sbbs'? I would only expect that to work if your current working directory was the sbbs/exec directory. Otherwise, I'd expect it give you an error about "No such file or directory".

but before I reinstalled,
I wasn't getting any errors but it also wasn't going back to the command line. It just sat there
Obviously something didn't compile right even though I didn't get any errors.

You mentioned you were "clicking on it" before, which implies you weren't running it from a command-line in the first place.

I will try compiling it again and see what happens.

Yeah, double-check your steps with the instrutions.
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On 9/27/22 12:09, Ghost wrote:

Being new to Linux, I have to ask the question "How do i run it
from the command line?" just typeing SBBS doesn't seem to work

Try /sbbs/exec/sbbs
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