• BBS Drag Race

    From The Lizard Master@1:103/705 to All on Wed Sep 21 16:52:06 2022
    I have a friend who wanted me to set up BBS Drag Race, has anyone done this successfully? It uses his own internal routines so the only way I can seem to get it to work is to set the door in console mode. The ANSI doesn't translate and it makes the door kind of unusable but does execute and display when I do that.

    Thanks!

    ---TLM

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to The Lizard Master on Wed Sep 21 16:20:44 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: The Lizard Master to All on Wed Sep 21 2022 04:52 pm

    I have a friend who wanted me to set up BBS Drag Race, has anyone done this successfully? It uses his own internal routines so the only way I can seem to get it to work is to set the door in console mode. The ANSI doesn't translate and it makes the door kind of unusable but does execute and display when I do that.

    So, this is a standard door game? What version are you trying? On what OS? Does the door support FOSSIL or UART communications? More information, like your configuration of the door and the SCFG settings, would be helpful.
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  • From Charles Blackburn@1:103/705 to The Lizard Master on Thu Sep 22 07:18:12 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: The Lizard Master to All on Wed Sep 21 2022 16:52:06

    I have a friend who wanted me to set up BBS Drag Race, has anyone done this successfully? It uses his own internal routines
    so the only way I can seem to get it to work is to set the door in console mode. The ANSI doesn't translate and it makes the
    door kind of unusable but does execute and display when I do that.

    i had an issue with a couple of DOS doors running under freedos/dosemu2 and ansi. I would get the ansi sequences on the screen. I loaded up nansi.com and it works perfectly.

    now - i dont get callers to my bbs yet so not sure whether it was a peculiarty with my machine here to ont but time will tell..

    regards
    ---

    Charles Blackburn
    The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36
    bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6
    DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET
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  • From The Lizard Master@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Thu Sep 22 07:37:00 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Digital Man to The Lizard Master on Wed Sep 21 2022 04:20 pm

    So, this is a standard door game? What version are you trying? On what OS? Does the door support FOSSIL or UART communications? More information, like your configuration of the door and the SCFG settings, would be helpful.

    Thanks DM! In the sysop doc it says this -

    Important NOTE : When Running in remote mode that ( Non-local) Mode,
    BBSRACE installs it's own serial Interrupt driven
    routines. If you have a fossil driver loaded, you may
    experience problems. It is Recomended that you
    UNLOAD OR DISABLE THE FOSSIL before running this

    I'm using DosEMU under Linux. If I try the normal setup for these things it seems to just hang which I assume is the internal routines trying to take over. If I use Intercept I/O Standard, it does appear but the Ansi escape sequences seem to get ignored so it's kind of impossible to use at that point.

    I'm using the default instrtuctions for the door using DORINFO1.DEF if that might have anything to do with it.

    ---TLM

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Charles Blackburn on Thu Sep 22 09:38:18 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Charles Blackburn to The Lizard Master on Thu Sep 22 2022 07:18 am

    now - i dont get callers to my bbs yet so not sure whether it was a peculiarty with my machine here to ont but time will tell..

    Ijust checked to see if you have a BBS listing in the Synchronet BBS list: http://www.synchro.net/sbbslist.html
    For the verification results, it says "0-00-00 none". I don't recall if I've seen that before, but it sounds like the automated verifier isn't able to connect to your BBS.

    Nightfox

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  • From Charles Blackburn@1:103/705 to The Lizard Master on Thu Sep 22 16:58:12 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: The Lizard Master to Digital Man on Thu Sep 22 2022 07:37:01

    So, this is a standard door game? What version are you trying? On what OS? Does the door support FOSSIL or UART
    communications? More information, like your configuration of the door and the SCFG settings, would be helpful.

    I'm using DosEMU under Linux. If I try the normal setup for these things it seems to just hang which I assume is the
    internal routines trying to take over. If I use Intercept I/O Standard, it does appear but the Ansi escape sequences seem to
    get ignored so it's kind of impossible to use at that point.

    try running the ansi.com driver that's in dosutils in yoru batch file. i had a similar issue with other doors.

    failing that, try running the door in local mode ?

    regards
    ---

    Charles Blackburn
    The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36
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  • From Charles Blackburn@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu Sep 22 16:59:32 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Nightfox to Charles Blackburn on Thu Sep 22 2022 09:38:19


    Ijust checked to see if you have a BBS listing in the Synchronet BBS list: http://www.synchro.net/sbbslist.html
    For the verification results, it says "0-00-00 none". I don't recall if I've seen that before, but it sounds like the
    automated verifier isn't able to connect to your BBS.

    yea cus it thinks it's ssh and not telnet.

    dunno how to change that one.

    regards
    ---

    Charles Blackburn
    The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36
    bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6
    DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to The Lizard Master on Thu Sep 22 14:51:44 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: The Lizard Master to Digital Man on Thu Sep 22 2022 07:37 am

    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Digital Man to The Lizard Master on Wed Sep 21 2022 04:20 pm

    So, this is a standard door game? What version are you trying? On what OS? Does the door support FOSSIL or UART communications? More information, like your configuration of the door and the SCFG settings, would be helpful.

    Thanks DM! In the sysop doc it says this -

    Important NOTE : When Running in remote mode that ( Non-local) Mode,
    BBSRACE installs it's own serial Interrupt driven
    routines. If you have a fossil driver loaded, you may
    experience problems. It is Recomended that you
    UNLOAD OR DISABLE THE FOSSIL before running this

    I'm using DosEMU under Linux. If I try the normal setup for these things it seems to just hang which I assume is the internal routines trying to take over.

    And normally, that would be okay. Most doors either have their own serial routines to talk directly to a UART/COM port and/or they can use FOSSIL (software interrupts). Did you try disabling the FOSSIL driver in your ctrl/external.bat file to see if that resolves the problem with this particular door?

    If I use Intercept I/O Standard, it does appear but the Ansi escape sequences seem to get ignored so it's kind of impossible to use at that point.

    Yeah, that's not likely to work well.
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  • From The Lizard Master@1:103/705 to Charles Blackburn on Thu Sep 22 17:22:48 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Charles Blackburn to The Lizard Master on Thu Sep 22 2022 07:18 am

    i had an issue with a couple of DOS doors running under freedos/dosemu2 and ansi. I would get the ansi sequences on the screen. I loaded up nansi.com and it works perfectly.

    now - i dont get callers to my bbs yet so not sure whether it was a peculiarty with my machine here to ont but time will tell..

    Thanks! I haven't had that issue before and when I run it locally under dosemu it displays properly, but I'll give it a shot!

    ---TLM

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Charles Blackburn on Thu Sep 22 18:59:40 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Thu Sep 22 2022 04:59 pm

    Ijust checked to see if you have a BBS listing in the Synchronet BBS
    list: http://www.synchro.net/sbbslist.html For the verification
    results, it says "0-00-00 none". I don't recall if I've seen that
    before, but it sounds like the automated verifier isn't able to
    connect to your BBS.

    yea cus it thinks it's ssh and not telnet.

    dunno how to change that one.

    I'm not sure what you mean.. Did you swap your telnet and SSH ports?

    Nightfox

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  • From Charles Blackburn@1:103/705 to The Lizard Master on Fri Sep 23 07:17:52 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: The Lizard Master to Charles Blackburn on Thu Sep 22 2022 17:22:49

    i had an issue with a couple of DOS doors running under freedos/dosemu2 and ansi. I would get the ansi sequences on the
    screen. I loaded up nansi.com and it works perfectly.
    now - i dont get callers to my bbs yet so not sure whether it was a peculiarty with my machine here to ont but time will
    tell..
    Thanks! I haven't had that issue before and when I run it locally under dosemu it displays properly, but I'll give it a
    shot!

    yea mayhem was one of them. I wouldnt get the starting ansi screen but the rest would be fine in the terminal..

    run it locallaly via dosemu it's fine (i guess as DE has a built in ansi thing).

    here's my mayhem.bat file i use to run it

    ---------------------------------
    @echo off
    rem run ansi driver
    ansi.com

    rem set NODE env
    set UUNODE=%SBBSNNUM%
    mayhem.exe

    rem make sure we exit
    exit

    ---------------------------------

    regards
    ---

    Charles Blackburn
    The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36
    bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6
    DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET
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  • From Charles Blackburn@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Fri Sep 23 07:19:00 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Nightfox to Charles Blackburn on Thu Sep 22 2022 18:59:40

    By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Thu Sep 22 2022 04:59 pm
    results, it says "0-00-00 none". I don't recall if I've seen that
    yea cus it thinks it's ssh and not telnet.
    dunno how to change that one.
    I'm not sure what you mean.. Did you swap your telnet and SSH ports?

    nope.. never had SSH active on tehre cus that's how i admin the machine is via openssh

    only ports that are open to the world are telnet and binkp

    regards
    ---

    Charles Blackburn
    The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36
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  • From Charles Blackburn@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Fri Sep 23 19:08:38 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Nightfox to Charles Blackburn on Fri Sep 23 2022 09:01:53

    I'm not sure what you mean.. Did you swap your telnet and SSH
    ports?
    nope.. never had SSH active on tehre cus that's how i admin the machine is via openssh
    only ports that are open to the world are telnet and binkp
    What do you mean when you say it thinks it's SSH? If you try to log on yourself via telnet, are you able to log on, or does
    it report an error related to SSH?

    no if you look at the bbs list it says the only connection available is SSH when it should be telnet.


    Here's my entry from the list (cut n paste):

    The FBO BBS
    A New BBS focussed on the aviation community. Whether or not it's airline, non ATP/Commercial Students, or even those that just like staring at aircraft. WE HAVE A PLACE FOR YOU.
    bbs.thefbo.us (ssh) <<<<<<<<<<< HERE

    obviously, telnet is working if you were to directly connect to it as normal, as i'm writing this on my system :D

    regards
    ---

    Charles Blackburn
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Charles Blackburn on Fri Sep 23 21:36:52 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Fri Sep 23 2022 07:08 pm

    no if you look at the bbs list it says the only connection available is SSH when it should be telnet.

    Ah, I see. If you edit your BBS entry (probably needs to be on your own system), I'm pretty sure you can edit the types of connections your BBS accepts. Then your update should be sent to Vertrauen and the entry in sbbslist.html should be updated.

    Nightfox

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  • From Charles Blackburn@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sat Sep 24 06:06:50 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Nightfox to Charles Blackburn on Fri Sep 23 2022 21:36:53

    By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Fri Sep 23 2022 07:08 pm
    no if you look at the bbs list it says the only connection available is SSH when it should be telnet.
    Ah, I see. If you edit your BBS entry (probably needs to be on your own system), I'm pretty sure you can edit the types of
    connections your BBS accepts. Then your update should be sent to Vertrauen and the entry in sbbslist.html should be updated.

    that's the thing, i dont know how to do that LOL

    regards
    ---

    Charles Blackburn
    The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36
    bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6
    DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET
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  • From The Lizard Master@1:103/705 to Charles Blackburn on Sat Sep 24 09:04:22 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Charles Blackburn to The Lizard Master on Fri Sep 23 2022 07:17 am

    here's my mayhem.bat file i use to run it

    ---------------------------------
    @echo off
    rem run ansi driver
    ansi.com

    rem set NODE env
    set UUNODE=%SBBSNNUM%
    mayhem.exe

    rem make sure we exit
    exit


    Mind posting the synch settings as well? I also have to try turning the fossil off like DM suggested. Appreciate it!

    ---TLM

    ---
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  • From The Lizard Master@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sat Sep 24 10:21:04 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Digital Man to The Lizard Master on Thu Sep 22 2022 02:51 pm

    And normally, that would be okay. Most doors either have their own serial routines to talk directly to a UART/COM port and/or they can use FOSSIL (software interrupts). Did you try disabling the FOSSIL driver in your ctrl/external.bat file to see if that resolves the problem with this particular door?

    So I have emusetup.bat as the only bat in the directory, but it looks correct. I commented out fossil.com with the same results. I noticed ansi.com was listed in there already too so Charles suggestion seems already checked. Still only works with intercepting with the unwanted results you suggested.

    I tried using a different drop file for kicks, same results. When I'm in the directory while executing the door I see it's reading properly and creates a node file with the users alias in it so it appears to be executing properly, reading the dropfile right, and just sits there until timeout with no user interaction.

    0 <------ Use RTS handshaking.
    0 <------ Use CTS handshaking.

    They default to off, I tried turning them both on with the same results, I'm going to try 1/0 and 0/1 now just for kicks.

    ---TLM

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Charles Blackburn on Sat Sep 24 11:08:40 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Sat Sep 24 2022 06:06 am

    Ah, I see. If you edit
    your BBS entry (probably needs to be on your own system), I'm
    pretty sure you can edit the types of connections your BBS accepts.
    Then your update should be sent to Vertrauen and the entry in
    sbbslist.html should be updated.

    that's the thing, i dont know how to do that LOL

    How did you add your BBS entry in the first place? It's basically the same process to update it.

    Nightfox

    ---
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  • From Charles Blackburn@1:103/705 to The Lizard Master on Sat Sep 24 17:38:16 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: The Lizard Master to Charles Blackburn on Sat Sep 24 2022 09:04:22

    By: Charles Blackburn to The Lizard Master on Fri Sep 23 2022 07:17 am
    here's my mayhem.bat file i use to run it
    Mind posting the synch settings as well? I also have to try turning the fossil off like DM suggested. Appreciate it!

    Directory: "Door directory"
    Command line: mayhem.bat
    multiple users: yes
    I/O Method: Standard
    Native: no
    shell or new context: yes
    Drop file GAP/DOOR.SYS
    Dropfile in: Startup Directory

    regards
    ---

    Charles Blackburn
    The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36
    bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6
    DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET
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  • From Charles Blackburn@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sat Sep 24 17:40:10 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Nightfox to Charles Blackburn on Sat Sep 24 2022 11:08:41

    Then your update should be sent to Vertrauen and the entry in
    sbbslist.html should be updated.
    that's the thing, i dont know how to do that LOL
    How did you add your BBS entry in the first place? It's basically the same process to update it.

    i used the operator door.. i'll have to take alook again in a bit

    regards
    ---

    Charles Blackburn
    The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36
    bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6
    DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET
    ---
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  • From Charles Blackburn@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sat Sep 24 18:58:44 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Sat Sep 24 2022 17:40:11

    By: Nightfox to Charles Blackburn on Sat Sep 24 2022 11:08:41
    Then your update should be sent to Vertrauen and the entry in
    sbbslist.html should be updated.
    that's the thing, i dont know how to do that LOL
    How did you add your BBS entry in the first place? It's basically the same process to update it.
    i used the operator door.. i'll have to take alook again in a bit

    ok so i went back in and it was already set to telnet etc. but i did update a couple of things so hopefully it will be working soon..

    regards
    ---

    Charles Blackburn
    The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36
    bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6
    DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Charles Blackburn on Mon Sep 26 08:33:08 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Sat Sep 24 2022 05:40 pm

    How did you add your BBS entry in the first place? It's basically
    the same process to update it.

    i used the operator door.. i'll have to take alook again in a bit

    What is the operator door?

    Nightfox

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  • From Charles Blackburn@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Mon Sep 26 14:08:52 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Nightfox to Charles Blackburn on Mon Sep 26 2022 08:33:09

    By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Sat Sep 24 2022 05:40 pm
    How did you add your BBS entry in the first place? It's basically
    the same process to update it.
    i used the operator door.. i'll have to take alook again in a bit
    What is the operator door?

    when you first go to it you have to add all the information in etc is what i meant. I moved that over to sysop access for now till i figure it out lol

    sorry...

    regards
    ---

    Charles Blackburn
    The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36
    bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6
    DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET
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  • From The Lizard Master@1:103/705 to Charles Blackburn on Wed Oct 5 17:31:26 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Charles Blackburn to The Lizard Master on Sat Sep 24 2022 05:38 pm

    Mind posting the synch settings as well? I also have to try turning the fossil off like DM suggested. Appreciate it!

    Directory: "Door directory"
    Command line: mayhem.bat

    Thank you!

    ---TLM

    ---
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  • From Charles Blackburn@1:103/705 to The Lizard Master on Thu Oct 6 12:09:46 2022
    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: The Lizard Master to Charles Blackburn on Wed Oct 05 2022 17:31:27

    Re: BBS Drag Race
    By: Charles Blackburn to The Lizard Master on Sat Sep 24 2022 05:38 pm

    Mind posting the synch settings as well? I also have to try turning the fossil off like DM suggested. Appreciate it!

    Directory: "Door directory"

    np, hope it helps.

    regards
    ---

    Charles Blackburn
    The F.B.O BBS 21:1/221 618:250/36
    bbs.thefbo.us IPV4/V6
    DOVE-Net FSX-Net MicroNET USENET
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