Can it be made the default in new synchronet installs, new users can
not post in echomail areas?
Possible, yes, but:
1. wouldn't change the configuration hundreds of existing Synchronet installs
That's not an argument to make improvements in new versions!
Dumas Walker wrote to WILFRED VAN VELZEN <=-
Can it be made the default in new synchronet installs, new users can
not post in echomail areas?
Possible, yes, but:
1. wouldn't change the configuration hundreds of existing Synchronet installs
That's not an argument to make improvements in new versions!
I am not really sure that the default is what you think it is
anyway.
When you install Synchronet, IIRC, only Dovenet comes
preinstalled with defaults. It is up to the sysop to add those
FTN echoes and, if they set them to where the default new user
level has access, they get access.
I am not real sure what DM can do to force sysops not to do that
on their own systems.
When you install Synchronet, IIRC, only Dovenet comes preinstalled
with defaults. It is up to the sysop to add those FTN echoes and, if
they set them to where the default new user level has access, they get access.
I am not real sure what DM can do to force sysops not to do that on their own systems.
Hi MRO,
On 2024-05-15 17:12:43, you wrote to me:
Venus, Innana and so on...
Sailor Moon is targeted as somewhat of modern representation of
following
mythology) if you suspect something or know anything write about it!
6. Daughters of those from groups above!
inform inform inform!
Can it be made the default in new synchronet installs, new users can
not post in echomail areas?
That's something that sysops should decide.
Of course! I'm not asking to remove their choice, only to change the default
there's no way to know when someone's going to be posting crazy shit.
Indeed, so it's better to restrict what they can do until they are "verified
also this guy wasn't overly harmful or damaging to the network.
There have been multiple posts in different echomail areas, by "different" u
it's up to the sysop to police their own bbs. you can't do it all for them.
Of course. And as I said above, I'm not asking to limit the sysops options, mers (or bots).
Bye, Wilfred.
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip planted without them knowing it
By: Wilfred van Velzen to MRO on Thu May 16 2024 11:42:12
There have been multiple posts in different echomail areas, by "differe users, from different systems, for weeks now, all with the same content find it annoying.
when I come up on that message, just like any other spam on my system, I pus y annoy many people.
Of course. And as I said above, I'm not asking to limit the sysops
options,
mers (or bots).
I disagree with changing the default. It's very easy to jiggle the
new user settings to do that.
I disagree with changing the default. It's very easy to jiggle the new
user settings to do that.
Maybe it's easy, but it's overlooked by new sysops...
Hi Dumas,
On 2024-05-16 08:47:00, you wrote to me:
When you install Synchronet, IIRC, only Dovenet comes preinstalled
with defaults. It is up to the sysop to add those FTN echoes and, if they set them to where the default new user level has access, they get access.
I am not real sure what DM can do to force sysops not to do that on their own systems.
I don't know either, I was just asking if it would be possible...
Are they spammers bots or real people? i thought they were real people. having people blocked by default from posting is something that should be a sysop decision, not a default bbs setting.
No I dont think we are that stupid. I will admit I had a spam user get access to my fidonet areas. I have since locked it all down. Maybe in your infinite wisdom, you could recommend a way to validate users so they can have access to
Fidonet Message bases??
Hi Carol,
On 2024-05-16 13:07:00, you wrote to me:
Of course. And as I said above, I'm not asking to limit the sysops
options,
mers (or bots).
(Your quoter is broken...)
I disagree with changing the default. It's very easy to jiggle the
new user settings to do that.
Maybe it's easy, but it's overlooked by new sysops...
Bye, Wilfred.
Are they spammers bots or real people? i thought they were real people. having people blocked by default from posting is something that should be a sysop decision, not a default bbs setting.
I think this is a real person. Early on, Pengo was responding back to replies. Their real name (at least what they use at logon) is Lesley.
Their IP address block is 95.24.14.0/24 which resolves to corbina.ru.
After they logged on here and found they could only post their drivel on a local area, they've not been back. Since I blocked the above IPA range, that could also be why.
The latest messages I saw were from a board that joined after a lot of this info was shared here by another sysop, so they were probably not aware of the "Pengo" problem.
While they have hit synchronet systems a lot, they've also hit other boards which also makes me think it is not a bot (or it is very sophisticated).
No I dont think we are that stupid. I will admit I had a spam user get access to my fidonet areas. I have since locked it all down. Maybe in your infinite wisdom, you could recommend a way to validate users so they can have access to
Fidonet Message bases??
Back in time, I had a couple of users log on, act normal enough to get access and then start spamming. "Pengo" logged on here as a regular user and, had they not used the "Pengo" alias, I might not have caught on until after they started spamming.
Luckily, new users only have access to a few bases and, since they used the "Pengo" alias, they are in the twitlist so no posts they might have been able to make could go out through sbbsecho.
I am not real sure what DM can do to force sysops not to do that on their own systems.
Easy to say; impossible to put into actual practice.
Nopants wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Fri May 17 2024 08:49 am
Easy to say; impossible to put into actual practice.
Wait, isn't this how we solve problems today? Just sayin...
Hi MRO,
On 2024-05-16 17:33:55, you wrote to me:
do you not know how to twitfilter?
Of course I do. But that is not fixing the problem. And it's just a temporar
Bye, Wilfred.
temporar
Bye, Wilfred.
So, because some idiot is changing names on your site, you want a worldwide change of SBBS installs? Wanna explain it better?
Maybe it's easy, but it's overlooked by new sysops...
Or new sysops intentionally have it set that way.
Or maybe the nut-job poster actually uses a real email address and validates their account that way and then posts their garbage.
I would just assume "new sysops" are fault for every posting by this
nut.
do you not know how to twitfilter?
Of course I do. But that is not fixing the problem. And it's just a
temporar
I would just assume "new sysops" are fault for every posting by this nut.
If you mean "wouldn't", I agree. ;-)
Of course I do. But that is not fixing the problem. And it's just a
temporar
Your quoter just cuts of longer sentences in the middle of word... :-(
Still I think inexpercience of new sysops plays a role in this. So I'm
not
blaming them for this happening. Changing the default setting is for helping them to prevent such things happening...
i havent seen it so i have something right in my twitfilter or in my ip filter
i blocked pengo back in feb.
i see shitty necroposting to the pengo pedo post post on thurs may 02 on vert.
is it this marry4 guy?
Well that bbs in norway where pengo was posting from, that sysop and all the other people are all the same guy.
He even lied and said he blocked that person and when i was logged in there i saw that person login and they were in the msg areas.
We got another case of crazy sysop syndrome.
i'm still not seeing any of this shit. is someone actually going around now posting junk?
I am not real sure what DM can do to force sysops not to do that on their own systems.
We could change the default settings for new users to include the 'N' restriction, which would (by defualt, in new SBBS installs) prevent new users from posting messages on networks.
i havent seen it so i have something right in my twitfilter or in my ip filter
i blocked pengo back in feb.
i see shitty necroposting to the pengo pedo post post on thurs may 02 on vert.
Yep. ;)
is it this marry4 guy?
Shitty or pengo? I don't think either of them are mary4 but could be wrong.
i'm still not seeing any of this shit. is someone actually going around now posting junk?
If you have him added to your twitlist, then you are like me and not seeing it.
The OP doesn't run synchronet, I don't think, so they probably don't have Pengo/etc. in their twitlist (and maybe don't have one).
I am not real sure what DM can do to force sysops not to do that on their own systems.
We could change the default settings for new users to include the 'N' restriction, which would (by defualt, in new SBBS installs) prevent new users from posting messages on networks.
That sounds harmless enough.
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Carol Shenkenberger to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri May 17 2024 04:57 pm
temporar
Bye, Wilfred.
So, because some idiot is changing names on your site, you want a worldwi change of SBBS installs? Wanna explain it better?
i'm still not seeing any of this shit. is someone actually going around now
On Sat, 18 May 2024 17:30:20 +0200, you wrote:
Of course I do. But that is not fixing the problem. And it's just a
temporar
Your quoter just cuts of longer sentences in the middle of word... :-(
All of her editor's (if she still uses SlyEdit) issues have long since been
Regards,
Nick
... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
I noticed on vert's fidonet echos these posts aren't
showing up. so either DM filtered properly or manually deleted the posts.
i'm still not seeing any of this shit. is someone actually going around now
I've not seen any of it. Seems limited to Z2?
xxcarol
All of her editor's (if she still uses SlyEdit) issues have long since been
You've been claiming that for years. Give it up.
i'm still not seeing any of this shit. is someone actually going around
now
I've not seen any of it. Seems limited to Z2?
furthermore the guy said they
were using other non synchronet bbses to post.
why dont you tell your hubs to filter these posts from fidonet?
it would be more effective.
It's better to fix it at the source. Besides it's highly frowned upon to filter
echomail.
I've not seen any of it. Seems limited to Z2?
No it originated on a Z1 system, and got everywhere...
furthermore the guy said they
were using other non synchronet bbses to post.
I have noticed, and mentioned, that also. IMHO, it happens most with synchronet BBSes because there are so many of them, but I have also seen
him post from mystic and at least one other type bbs (forget which now).
* SLMR 2.1a * He who laughs last...had to have it explained.
I've not seen any of it. Seems limited to Z2?
No it originated on a Z1 system, and got everywhere...
furthermore the guy said they
were using other non synchronet bbses to post.
I have noticed, and mentioned, that also. IMHO, it happens most with synchronet BBSes because there are so many of them, but I have also seen
him post from mystic and at least one other type bbs (forget which now).
My BBS is setup so new users won't even see Dove-net until I upgrade their account also the guest account has the same restrictions.
They can post all the want on my local message base, I also put a that restriction on voting and uploading.
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Mon May 20 2024 09:51 am
okay dude who got blocked from posting for spam. :D
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� Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Mon May 20 2024 09:51 am
okay dude who got blocked from posting for spam. :DI didn't post spam, WTF are you talking about?
---
Some people here are just drama Queens.
Not happy unless you stir up a hornets nest.
I gave up on trying to keep you aware of the editor's progress long ago, you
But yes, I'll let others know (and defend the software that I use and suppor
I Did upgrade. You've been TOLD that.
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Denn to MRO on Mon May 20 2024 08:29 pm
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Mon May 20 2024 09:51 am
okay dude who got blocked from posting for spam. :DI didn't post spam, WTF are you talking about?
---
Some people here are just drama Queens.
Not happy unless you stir up a hornets nest.
see what i mean. didn't cross your mind why you got posting priv yanked. that didn't take long
I've not seen any of it. Seems limited to Z2?
No it originated on a Z1 system, and got everywhere...
you guys should have contacted him and told him to twit filter the
names they were using.
1st off, this has nothing to do with you,
2nd I never posted any spam,
3rd
you're an idiot.
Don't bother with a reply because you're going in the twitlist.
1st off, this has nothing to do with you, 2nd I never posted any spam, 3rd you're an idiot.
Don't bother with a reply because you're going in the twitlist.
Is it just me or are people slowly turning this forum into Facebook. Somebody cuts a quote short, or makes a spelling mistake and everyone gets their panties in a twist. You don't like something about what someone says so you threaten to block, unfollow, or YIKES, even put them on a twitlist?
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Denn to MRO on Mon May 20 2024 22:48:58
Is it just me or are people slowly turning this forum into Facebook. Somebody cuts a quote short, or makes a spelling mistake and everyone gets their panties in a twist. You don't like something about what someone says so you threaten to block, unfollow, or YIKES, even put them on a twitlist? Why do we bother?
(The preceding thoughts were my personal opinion only, and not meant to threaten, harass, diminish, embarass, or cause anyone to run to their safe space)
In the 10 years I've been here MRO has been the
Gladys Kravitz of BBS forums, you know the nosey neighbor on Bewitched, He's a troll.
I don't feel like putting up with him any more.
The easy solution is to put him in my twitlist.
In the 10 years I've been here MRO has been the
Gladys Kravitz of BBS forums, you know the nosey neighbor on Bewitched, He's a troll.
I don't feel like putting up with him any more.
The easy solution is to put him in my twitlist.
In the 10 years I've been here MRO has been the
Gladys Kravitz of BBS forums, you know the nosey neighbor on Bewitched, He's a troll.
I don't feel like putting up with him any more.
The easy solution is to put him in my twitlist.
i used to think he was annoying as fuck
stay longer and you'll realize he's you, but from the future.
i used to think he was annoying as fuck
stay longer and you'll realize he's you, but from the future.
Denn wrote to Mickey <=-
In the 10 years I've been here MRO has been the
Gladys Kravitz of BBS forums, you know the nosey neighbor on
Bewitched, He's a troll.
MRO/Jas Hud reminds me of the saying - "Why would I accept criticism
from someone who I wouldn't accept advice from?"
... Change specifics to ambiguities
--- MultiMail/Win v0.52
� Synchronet � .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :.
MRO/Jas Hud reminds me of the saying - "Why would I accept criticism from someone who I wouldn't accept advice from?"
So are you saying jas hud and MRO are one in the same?
I don't mind
criticism, and I do take advise if it's good advise, I just grow weary of a guy that constantly gets into everybody's business whithout even knowing the facts, he's a troll that just likes to stir things up everywhere he can.
gets their panties in a twist. You don't like something about what someone says so you threaten to block, unfollow, or YIKES, even put them on a twitlist?
bbs people have always been grumpy pricks.
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Denn to MRO on Mon May 20 2024 22:48:58
Is it just me or are people slowly turning this forum into Facebook. Somebody cuts a quote short, or makes a spelling mistake and everyone gets their panties in a twist. You don't like something about what someone says (The preceding thoughts were my personal opinion only, and not meant to threaten, harass, diminish, embarass, or cause anyone to run to their safe space)
In the 10 years I've been here MRO has been the
Gladys Kravitz of BBS forums, you know the nosey neighbor on Bewitched, He's a troll.
I don't feel like putting up with him any more.
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip pYep, ive seen many new sysops just wanting to rekindle their love of BBSing only to be treated like crap by a few then leaving never to be heard from here again, it's not just MRO there are a few that jump in with him.
By: Denn to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed May 22 2024 11:08 am
Yes, they're the same person.
That and he's the only one I've seen on here who repeatedly calls people autistic or other names, and so on..
Nightfox
---
Yep, ive seen many new sysops just wanting to rekindle their love of BBSing only to be treated like crap by a few then leaving never to be heard from here again, it's not just MRO there are a few that jump in with him.
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Denn to Nightfox on Wed May 22 2024 08:22 pm
If you really enjoy the hobby of BBSing, you have to ignore some of the bad stuff and not let it bother you too much.
Nightfox
BBSing only to be treated like crap by a few then leaving never to be heard from here again, it's not just MRO there are a few that jump in with him.
If you really enjoy the hobby of BBSing, you have to ignore some of the bad stuff and not let it bother you too much.
If you really enjoy the hobby of BBSing, you have to ignore some of the badThat's true, but some of these guy's just get frustrated. But you're right they should ignore the negative.
stuff and not let it bother you too much.
Nightfox
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Denn to Nightfox on Thu May 23 2024 01:14 pm
If you really enjoy the hobby of BBSing, you have to ignore some of the badThat's true, but some of these guy's just get frustrated. But you're right they should ignore the negative.
stuff and not let it bother you too much.
Nightfox
It's one thing to ignore negativity about technical abilities or reading comprehension. It's entirely another to have to ignore bigotry. I have no tolerance for intolerance. It's the year 2024, but we have a certain person throwing around slur words like it's 1985.
We talk here about wanting to appeal to more people, but then we allow people to make it feel hostile. The days of you older straight white men being the majority are ending, we need to appeal to those that are becoming the majority. If I hadn't been into BBSing in the mid 90s & had other women helping me feel welcome back then, there's probably no way I'd be here now.
We talk here about wanting to appeal to more people, but then we allow people to make it feel hostile. The days of you older straight white men being the majority are ending, we need to appeal to those that are becoming the majority. If I hadn't been into BBSing in the mid 90s & had other women helping me feel welcome back then, there's probably no way
I'd be here now.
Ravne wrote to Denn <=-
We talk here about wanting to appeal to more people, but then we allow people to make it feel hostile. The days of you older straight white
men being the majority are ending, we need to appeal to those that are becoming the majority.
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Ravne to Denn on Fri May 24 2024 10:17 am
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Denn to Nightfox on Thu May 23 2024 01:14 pm
If you really enjoy the hobby of BBSing, you have to ignore some of t badThat's true, but some of these guy's just get frustrated. But you're right they should ignore the negative.
stuff and not let it bother you too much.
Nightfox
It's one thing to ignore negativity about technical abilities or reading comprehension. It's entirely another to have to ignore bigotry. I have no tolerance for intolerance. It's the year 2024, but we have a certain pers throwing around slur words like it's 1985.
Having no tolerance for intolerance is still intolerance.
Negativity is mostly by a few, there are many people promoting posativity h
Thats why I say just ignore the negativity.
We talk here about wanting to appeal to more people, but then we allow people to make it feel hostile. The days of you older straight white men being the majority are ending, we need to appeal to those that are becomi the majority. If I hadn't been into BBSing in the mid 90s & had other wom helping me feel welcome back then, there's probably no way I'd be here no
No one should be in a majority, you want to take one majority and replace i
I like Robs approach, when we ask noob questions he points us to the wiki p to encourage us to look for and find the answers to our problems.
The person I assume you're referring to is race and gender-agnostic.
He's the same obnoxious, obscene troll regardless of gender, identity,
ethnicity or choice of computer platform.
Sometimes the author gives bad pointers back. I asked once for help finding the right area on the wiki for something very specific, listing all the pages I had tried, and what part I was missing.
Link came bach with the root page of the wiki (obviously useless). I never asked again. No, I never found it either.
xxcarol
Sometimes the author gives bad pointers back. I asked once for help finding the right area on the wiki for something very specific, listing all the pages I had tried, and what part I was missing.
Link came bach with the root page of the wiki (obviously useless). I never asked again. No, I never found it either.
No one should be in a majority, you want to take one majority and replace i
I like Robs approach, when we ask noob questions he points us to the wiki p to encourage us to look for and find the answers to our problems.
Sometimes the author gives bad pointers back. I asked once for help finding the right area on the wiki for something very specific, listing all the pages I had tried, and what part I was missing.
Link came bach with the root page of the wiki (obviously useless). I never asked again. No, I never found it either.
kk4qbn wrote to Carol Shenkenberger <=-
The terms "Synchronet Wiki whatever issue" used in a simple google
search has always directed me to the information I am looking for. ---
incompetent you were. That bewitched reference is lame as hell too.
I used to watch that when i was a kid and i still barely remember it.
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: MRO to Denn on Tue May 21 2024 11:07 pm
incompetent you were. That bewitched reference is lame as hell too.
I used to watch that when i was a kid and i still barely remember it.
The nose twitch tho? Really?
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Carol Shenkenberger to Denn on Sat May 25 2024 16:12:00
Sometimes the author gives bad pointers back. I asked once for help finding the right area on the wiki for something very specific, listing all the pages I had tried, and what part I was missing.
Link came bach with the root page of the wiki (obviously useless). I never asked again. No, I never found it either.
The terms "Synchronet Wiki whatever issue" used in a simple google search ha
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: kk4qbn to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat May 25 2024 07:04 pm
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Carol Shenkenberger to Denn on Sat May 25 2024 16:12:00
Sometimes the author gives bad pointers back. I asked once for help finding the right area on the wiki for something very specific, listing all the pages I had tried, and what part I was missing.
Link came bach with the root page of the wiki (obviously useless).
I never asked again. No, I never found it either.
The terms "Synchronet Wiki whatever issue" used in a simple google search ha
It remains not well documented. Not many need it so it doesn't matter anymore.
search ha
It remains not well documented. Not many need it so it doesn't matter anymore.
What is "it"?
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Carol Shenkenberger to kk4qbn on Wed May 29 2024 04:32 pm
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: kk4qbn to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat May 25 2024 07:04 pm
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Carol Shenkenberger to Denn on Sat May 25 2024 16:12:00
Sometimes the author gives bad pointers back. I asked once for h finding the right area on the wiki for something very specific, listing all the pages I had tried, and what part I was missing.
Link came bach with the root page of the wiki (obviously useless) I never asked again. No, I never found it either.
The terms "Synchronet Wiki whatever issue" used in a simple google sea ha
It remains not well documented. Not many need it so it doesn't matter anymore.
What is "it"?
--
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Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Digital Man to Carol Shenkenberger on Wed May 29 2024 02:56 pm
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Carol Shenkenberger to kk4qbn on Wed May 29 2024 04:32 pm
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: kk4qbn to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat May 25 2024 07:04 pm
Re: Re: Fwd: Girls got chip p
By: Carol Shenkenberger to Denn on Sat May 25 2024 16:12:00
Sometimes the author gives bad pointers back. I asked once for h finding the right area on the wiki for something very specific, listing all the pages I had tried, and what part I was missing.
Link came bach with the root page of the wiki (obviously useless) I never asked again. No, I never found it either.
The terms "Synchronet Wiki whatever issue" used in a simple google sea ha
It remains not well documented. Not many need it so it doesn't matter anymore.
What is "it"?
It was a query related to netmail.
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