• Re: Where to get the sources (openconnect) ?

    From Jim Jackson@3:770/3 to Markus Robert Kessler on Mon Apr 1 19:54:54 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 2024-04-01, Markus Robert Kessler <no_reply@dipl-ing-kessler.de> wrote:
    So, maybe this is a matter of compilation?

    Or something else to look after, to prevent openconnect from doing this?

    Maybe someone can give a hint where to download the openconnect sources
    for Ubuntu?

    As long as you have the deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list etc
    Then for any package

    apt-get source package-name

    gets you the source that was used to compile the binaries in the package.

    e.g. see https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-get-source-code-of-package-using-the-apt-command-on-debian-or-ubuntu/

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  • From Markus Robert Kessler@3:770/3 to All on Mon Apr 1 19:30:20 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 20:56:45 +0200 Marco Moock wrote:

    On 01.04.2024 um 18:35 Uhr Markus Robert Kessler wrote:

    I am running several machines for connecting to our company intranet,
    using openconnect VPN.

    Invoked directly or via NetworkManager?

    Directly

    So far, it works. But:

    The debian based systems, i.e. Ubuntu 23.10 and Raspbian OS show up
    hundreds of routes after connect. And it's clear that they are brought
    to my client via server-initiated 'push route ...' command.

    Some of these routes are conflicting with machines in my home office
    net.

    So, I'd like to skip getting such a huge amount of useless routes. I
    want to set the routing by my own script, instead.

    NetworkManager has an option to ignore routes from the peer. Connection settings --> IPv4/IPv6 settings --> Routes --> Ignore automatically
    obtained routes

    Looks promising! Thanks!

    So, openconnect does have a (commandline) option, which network manager
    invokes to get rid of those routing infos?

    I didn't find this switch in the man page yet. Do you know its name?

    Thanks again!

    Best regards,

    Markus

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  • From Marco Moock@3:770/3 to All on Mon Apr 1 22:16:12 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 01.04.2024 um 19:30 Uhr Markus Robert Kessler wrote:

    So, openconnect does have a (commandline) option, which network
    manager invokes to get rid of those routing infos?

    I dunno.

    I didn't find this switch in the man page yet. Do you know its name?

    Sadly, no.
    I currently have to invoke openconnect directly because they don't
    support TOTP properly yet and it is PITA.
    I recommend invoking it via NM whenever possible.

    --
    kind regards
    Marco

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  • From William Unruh@3:770/3 to Marco Moock on Tue Apr 2 14:57:42 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 2024-04-01, Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
    On 01.04.2024 um 19:30 Uhr Markus Robert Kessler wrote:

    So, openconnect does have a (commandline) option, which network
    manager invokes to get rid of those routing infos?

    I dunno.

    I didn't find this switch in the man page yet. Do you know its name?

    Sadly, no.
    I currently have to invoke openconnect directly because they don't
    support TOTP properly yet and it is PITA.
    I recommend invoking it via NM whenever possible.

    If you run openconnect on its own (no argument) it lists its options, so
    is like a very brief man page but presumable up-to-date.



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  • From Scott Alfter@3:770/3 to mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de on Tue Apr 2 16:23:44 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    In article <uuf01e$2lb63$1@dont-email.me>,
    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
    On 01.04.2024 um 18:35 Uhr Markus Robert Kessler wrote:
    So, I'd like to skip getting such a huge amount of useless routes. I
    want to set the routing by my own script, instead.

    NetworkManager has an option to ignore routes from the peer.
    Connection settings --> IPv4/IPv6 settings --> Routes --> Ignore >automatically obtained routes

    The Cisco ASA at work pushes some routes to my computer when I connect to
    it. One of them (for a remote office) uses the same 192.168.1.0/24 subnet
    as my home network, so I lose access to my file server, printers, etc. at
    home when I'm connected to the VPN. I'd been considering moving my home network to a different subnet, but this would be easier...will have to look into it.

    I'd still need a route to 172.16.0.0/22. Would this have to be added
    manually after connecting?

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  • From William Unruh@3:770/3 to Scott Alfter on Tue Apr 2 22:16:52 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 2024-04-02, Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
    In article <uuf01e$2lb63$1@dont-email.me>,
    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
    On 01.04.2024 um 18:35 Uhr Markus Robert Kessler wrote:
    So, I'd like to skip getting such a huge amount of useless routes. I
    want to set the routing by my own script, instead.

    NetworkManager has an option to ignore routes from the peer.
    Connection settings --> IPv4/IPv6 settings --> Routes --> Ignore >>automatically obtained routes

    The Cisco ASA at work pushes some routes to my computer when I connect to
    it. One of them (for a remote office) uses the same 192.168.1.0/24 subnet
    as my home network, so I lose access to my file server, printers, etc. at home when I'm connected to the VPN. I'd been considering moving my home network to a different subnet, but this would be easier...will have to look into it.

    ?? 192.168.x.x is non-routable. Ie, unless you are directly connected to
    the network you cannot access it. Is your home on the same physical net
    as that remote office? Otherwise I do not see how tht could do anything
    to your attachment to the home network.

    I'd still need a route to 172.16.0.0/22. Would this have to be added manually after connecting?


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  • From Markus Robert Kessler@3:770/3 to All on Wed Apr 3 08:46:46 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 22:16:53 -0000 (UTC) William Unruh wrote:

    On 2024-04-02, Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
    In article <uuf01e$2lb63$1@dont-email.me>,
    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
    On 01.04.2024 um 18:35 Uhr Markus Robert Kessler wrote:
    So, I'd like to skip getting such a huge amount of useless routes. I
    want to set the routing by my own script, instead.

    NetworkManager has an option to ignore routes from the peer. Connection >>>settings --> IPv4/IPv6 settings --> Routes --> Ignore automatically >>>obtained routes

    The Cisco ASA at work pushes some routes to my computer when I connect
    to it. One of them (for a remote office) uses the same 192.168.1.0/24
    subnet as my home network, so I lose access to my file server,
    printers, etc. at home when I'm connected to the VPN. I'd been
    considering moving my home network to a different subnet, but this
    would be easier...will have to look into it.

    ?? 192.168.x.x is non-routable. Ie, unless you are directly connected to
    the network you cannot access it. Is your home on the same physical net
    as that remote office? Otherwise I do not see how tht could do anything
    to your attachment to the home network.

    I'd still need a route to 172.16.0.0/22. Would this have to be added
    manually after connecting?


    Since 172.16.* is part of the private space beyond the vpn, you have to
    add this like

    ip route add 172.16.0.0/22 dev tun0

    or similar, depending on your vpn device.

    Best regards,

    Markus

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to William Unruh on Wed Apr 3 11:22:34 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 02/04/2024 23:16, William Unruh wrote:
    ?? 192.168.x.x is non-routable. Ie, unless you are directly connected to
    the network you cannot access it. Is your home on the same physical net
    as that remote office? Otherwise I do not see how tht could do anything
    to your attachment to the home network.

    192.168.x.x is routable.

    It just isn't something that the Internet routes, by convention.
    It can be routed via a VPN.

    It is a good argument for changing his home IP network to something else.


    --
    A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on
    its shoes.

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  • From Tauno Voipio@3:770/3 to Scott Alfter on Wed Apr 3 21:26:14 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 2.4.2024 19.23, Scott Alfter wrote:
    In article <uuf01e$2lb63$1@dont-email.me>,
    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
    On 01.04.2024 um 18:35 Uhr Markus Robert Kessler wrote:
    So, I'd like to skip getting such a huge amount of useless routes. I
    want to set the routing by my own script, instead.

    NetworkManager has an option to ignore routes from the peer.
    Connection settings --> IPv4/IPv6 settings --> Routes --> Ignore
    automatically obtained routes

    The Cisco ASA at work pushes some routes to my computer when I connect to
    it. One of them (for a remote office) uses the same 192.168.1.0/24 subnet
    as my home network, so I lose access to my file server, printers, etc. at home when I'm connected to the VPN. I'd been considering moving my home network to a different subnet, but this would be easier...will have to look into it.

    I'd still need a route to 172.16.0.0/22. Would this have to be added manually after connecting?


    The network 172.16.x.x to 172.31.x.x is one of the RFC1918 ranges
    reserved for private networks, and as such it is non-routable in the
    outside Net. It is probably fine to have inside of the VPN tunnel.
    The same applies to the 192.168.x.x network (and 10.x.x.x).

    The commercial VPNs like Cisco want to disable direct Internet access
    of the client for the duration of the tunnel, to prevent sneak paths
    to/from the public net and the internal tunneled network.

    --

    -Tauno Voipio

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  • From Marco Moock@3:770/3 to All on Wed Apr 3 21:32:36 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 02.04.2024 um 22:16 Uhr William Unruh wrote:

    ?? 192.168.x.x is non-routable.

    It is routable, but won't be routed on the internet.
    You can of course route it through a tunnel like here.


    --
    kind regards
    Marco

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  • From Marco Moock@3:770/3 to All on Wed Apr 3 21:33:48 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 02.04.2024 um 16:23 Uhr Scott Alfter wrote:

    The Cisco ASA at work pushes some routes to my computer when I
    connect to it.

    At least when using NetworkManager, you can control that behavior and
    you can add settings to the connection that special routes will be
    added when VPN comes up and removed when it comes down.

    One of them (for a remote office) uses the same
    192.168.1.0/24 subnet as my home network, so I lose access to my file
    server, printers, etc. at home when I'm connected to the VPN. I'd
    been considering moving my home network to a different subnet, but
    this would be easier...will have to look into it.

    Another reason to move to IPv6 - no more address conflicts.

    --
    kind regards
    Marco

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  • From Marco Moock@3:770/3 to All on Wed Apr 3 21:34:44 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 03.04.2024 um 21:26 Uhr Tauno Voipio wrote:

    The commercial VPNs like Cisco want to disable direct Internet access
    of the client for the duration of the tunnel, to prevent sneak paths
    to/from the public net and the internal tunneled network.

    This can always be overridden at the VPN client, so security must not
    rely on that.

    --
    kind regards
    Marco

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  • From William Unruh@3:770/3 to Marco Moock on Thu Apr 4 03:09:54 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 2024-04-03, Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
    On 02.04.2024 um 22:16 Uhr William Unruh wrote:

    ?? 192.168.x.x is non-routable.

    It is routable, but won't be routed on the internet.
    You can of course route it through a tunnel like here.

    But which? He says he has his home network on 192.168. and there is a
    work network on 192.168. but it is a different network (ne home, one
    work) and the work one takes precednce for him. Only one of them can be
    active to his machine. which has to be setup in the routng tables.




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  • From Grant Taylor@3:770/3 to William Unruh on Wed Apr 3 22:29:12 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 4/3/24 22:09, William Unruh wrote:
    But which? He says he has his home network on 192.168. and there is a
    work network on 192.168. but it is a different network (ne home, one
    work) and the work one takes precednce for him. Only one of them can
    be active to his machine. which has to be setup in the routng tables.

    Traditional routing, read: non-policy-based-routing, dictates that the
    best route wins. Directly attached routes always trump remote routes.

    So for a remote route to be trumping a directly attached route, policy-based-routing must be in use or something else to override very
    low level routing / networking.



    --
    Grant. . . .

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  • From jim whitby@3:770/3 to Grant Taylor on Thu Apr 4 05:53:00 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 22:29:13 -0500, Grant Taylor wrote:

    On 4/3/24 22:09, William Unruh wrote:
    But which? He says he has his home network on 192.168. and there is a
    work network on 192.168. but it is a different network (ne home, one
    work) and the work one takes precednce for him. Only one of them can be
    active to his machine. which has to be setup in the routng tables.

    Traditional routing, read: non-policy-based-routing, dictates that the
    best route wins. Directly attached routes always trump remote routes.

    So for a remote route to be trumping a directly attached route, policy-based-routing must be in use or something else to override very
    low level routing / networking.

    Verify the netmask(s) u use. If they are all /24 then a change in local
    nwtwirk would be easiset change.




    --
    Jim Whitby


    Newborn babies cannot cry tears for at least three weeks. ----------------------
    Mageia release 9 (Official) for x86_64
    6.6.22-server-1.mga9
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  • From David W. Hodgins@3:770/3 to jim whitby on Thu Apr 4 02:26:46 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On Wed, 03 Apr 2024 23:53:00 -0400, jim whitby <mr.spock@spockmnail.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 22:29:13 -0500, Grant Taylor wrote:

    On 4/3/24 22:09, William Unruh wrote:
    But which? He says he has his home network on 192.168. and there is a
    work network on 192.168. but it is a different network (ne home, one
    work) and the work one takes precednce for him. Only one of them can be
    active to his machine. which has to be setup in the routng tables.

    Traditional routing, read: non-policy-based-routing, dictates that the
    best route wins. Directly attached routes always trump remote routes.

    So for a remote route to be trumping a directly attached route,
    policy-based-routing must be in use or something else to override very
    low level routing / networking.

    Verify the netmask(s) u use. If they are all /24 then a change in local nwtwirk would be easiset change.

    Just don't forget to change the shorewall rules.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Bud Frede@3:770/3 to Marco Moock on Thu Apr 4 06:29:12 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes:

    On 02.04.2024 um 22:16 Uhr William Unruh wrote:

    ?? 192.168.x.x is non-routable.

    It is routable, but won't be routed on the internet.
    You can of course route it through a tunnel like here.

    I always say that the RFC 1918 addresses are "not normally publicly
    routed." :-)

    As you say, they definitely _are_ routable, or a whole lot of home and corporate networks would not be functional.

    I saw a video not too long ago that pointed out that the use of these
    addresses and NAT was made widespread by the Cisco PIX. It was a pretty interesting look back at something new that now seems commonplace and
    ordinary.

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  • From William Unruh@3:770/3 to Bud Frede on Thu Apr 4 15:43:32 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 2024-04-04, Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes:

    On 02.04.2024 um 22:16 Uhr William Unruh wrote:

    ?? 192.168.x.x is non-routable.

    It is routable, but won't be routed on the internet.
    You can of course route it through a tunnel like here.

    I always say that the RFC 1918 addresses are "not normally publicly
    routed." :-)

    As you say, they definitely _are_ routable, or a whole lot of home and corporate networks would not be functional.

    The key word is "publicly". Ie, once you get away from directly attached networks (or internal routers you have specially set up within your organization) and some outside router needs to be involved to get the
    packet from here to there, then that router has no idea which of the
    millions of networks with 192.168. to send the packet to.
    In the case in question, there are two networks with the same 192.168.
    network addresses. As mentioned the locally attached network should get
    the nod. The claim is that it is not. Of course this is going by tun to
    remote vpn. So if the local 192.168. addresses are being set up so that
    those packets still get delivered through tun, then the "localy attached network" could well be the remote one. Answer, tell your local machine
    to deliver all 192.168 stuff not to tun but to a local router which
    knows about your local 192.168.


    I saw a video not too long ago that pointed out that the use of these addresses and NAT was made widespread by the Cisco PIX. It was a pretty interesting look back at something new that now seems commonplace and ordinary.



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  • From Grant Taylor@3:770/3 to David W. Hodgins on Thu Apr 4 21:43:34 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 4/4/24 01:26, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    Just don't forget to change the shorewall rules.

    You might not even need to do that.

    Add two /25 routes using the local network. The shorewall, bein on a
    separate system than the problematic VPN client, is probably perfectly
    fine continuing to use the /24.

    N.B. it's late at night and I'm not sure what will happen with broadcasts.

    I'm confident that this can be made to work. Especially with host (/32) routes.



    --
    Grant. . . .

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  • From Scott Alfter@3:770/3 to unruh@invalid.ca on Wed Apr 17 22:25:34 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    In article <uui04k$3f9re$1@dont-email.me>,
    William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
    On 2024-04-02, Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
    In article <uuf01e$2lb63$1@dont-email.me>,
    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
    On 01.04.2024 um 18:35 Uhr Markus Robert Kessler wrote:
    So, I'd like to skip getting such a huge amount of useless routes. I
    want to set the routing by my own script, instead.

    NetworkManager has an option to ignore routes from the peer.
    Connection settings --> IPv4/IPv6 settings --> Routes --> Ignore >>>automatically obtained routes

    The Cisco ASA at work pushes some routes to my computer when I connect to
    it. One of them (for a remote office) uses the same 192.168.1.0/24 subnet >> as my home network, so I lose access to my file server, printers, etc. at
    home when I'm connected to the VPN. I'd been considering moving my home
    network to a different subnet, but this would be easier...will have to look >> into it.

    ?? 192.168.x.x is non-routable.

    I probably should've explained the situation. At work, the main office uses 172.16.0.0/22. A satellite office a few blocks away uses 192.168.1.0/24; a static route is added to the handful of desktops that need to talk to hosts over there. At home, my personal network also uses 192.168.1.0/24.
    Connecting to the VPN from home causes my home server, printers, etc. to
    become inaccessible as a result, as traffic for 192.168.1.0/24 gets routed
    to the satellite office.

    The ability to ignore some of the routes provided by the VPN would be nice,
    as I don't need to deal with stuff at the satellite office 99% of the time.

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  • From Scott Alfter@3:770/3 to tnp@invalid.invalid on Wed Apr 17 22:29:28 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux.mageia

    In article <uujalb$3rv5p$2@dont-email.me>,
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 02/04/2024 23:16, William Unruh wrote:
    ?? 192.168.x.x is non-routable. Ie, unless you are directly connected to
    the network you cannot access it. Is your home on the same physical net
    as that remote office? Otherwise I do not see how tht could do anything
    to your attachment to the home network.

    192.168.x.x is routable.

    It just isn't something that the Internet routes, by convention.
    It can be routed via a VPN.

    It is a good argument for changing his home IP network to something else.

    That's also something I've considered. My home router's a Raspberry Pi CM4
    on a carrier board that adds a second Ethernet jack, running OpenWRT. I've thought about downloading the config, changing all occurrences of 192.168.1.
    to 192.168.100. (or whatever), and uploading the changed config, but have
    been a bit nervous about it (especially since the WAF of a downed network is pretty low :-) ).

    --
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  • From Anssi Saari@3:770/3 to Scott Alfter on Fri Apr 19 11:08:46 2024
    scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) writes:

    That's also something I've considered. My home router's a Raspberry Pi CM4 on a carrier board that adds a second Ethernet jack, running OpenWRT.

    Just curious but which carrier board? Is there a case too?

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