The second - not arrived yet - has no hard drive, nor a SATA port,
but a CF-card. I read that CF-card are very much like P-ATA or IDE drives.
I do have a 1.8" IDE drive and a 2.5" one too.
I see _lots_ of adapters for replacing an IDE drive with a CF card.
I can find _no_ adapter for replacing a CF-card with an IDE drive
Is there such a thing?
Or should I just buy a bigger CF card - or a SD-to-CF-card adapter and
use an SD-card? (it will come with 1 GB CF-card - which is too small)
The second - not arrived yet - has no hard drive, nor a SATA port,
but a CF-card. I read that CF-card are very much like P-ATA or IDE drives.
I do have a 1.8" IDE drive and a 2.5" one too.
On 2023-01-27, Bj?rn Lundin <bnl@nowhere.com> wrote:
The second - not arrived yet - has no hard drive, nor a SATA port,
but a CF-card. I read that CF-card are very much like P-ATA or IDE drives. >> I do have a 1.8" IDE drive and a 2.5" one too.
Personally I'd wait until the unit arrives before opening it up
and seeing what there is to work with. I wouldn't be remotely
suprised if there is a space on the board just waiting for you to
put a 40 or 44 pin IDE socket in it and solder in place.
Couple of points to bear in mind: IDE is 5V only for signalling.
2.5" drives on 44 pin connectors are 5V for power too, 3.5"/40 pin
drives need 12V as well which may not be around in a thin client.
CF cards can be either 5V or 3.3V, if your machine comes with a
3.3V card you have further research to do as to the viability of
any swap. Doesn't necessarily make it a show stopper but it's
something to consider carefully before you proceed.
Secondly is that CF cards use a lot less power than even laptop
drives. Are you sure the power is there for a hard drive? Many
thin clients only have supplies in the 60W range for the entire
system, sometimes less.
Finally, is there even space in the case to mount a hard drive
anywhere?
Björn Lundin <bnl@nowhere.com> wrote:
This is why you can't buy them, because in most cases they wouldn't work.
So either of your options of buying a bigger CF card, or an SD to CF adapter would be worth trying. I'd guess you can buy bigger/cheaper SD cards nowadays than CF cards, but beware in case there are size limitations (I think SD has protocol limits at 4GB and 2TB, and IDE at 8GB and 128GB) - it may be the adapter is only good up to a certain size.
Secondly is that CF cards use a lot less power than even laptop
drives. Are you sure the power is there for a hard drive? Many
thin clients only have supplies in the 60W range for the entire
system, sometimes less.
Hmm, this one has lees. 30 w I think I read.
I did think of a 2.5" drive, but I also have 1.8"
It was an replacement for an ipod gen 4
On 2023-01-30, Bj?rn Lundin <bnl@nowhere.com> wrote:
I'm very dubious. I tried using those 1.8" Microdrives perhaps a
decade ago. Kind of worked, but drives for the likes of an iPod
are very aggressive when it comes to power saving - they'll spin
down after a few seconds of inactivity, and then take a few seconds
to spin up again.
On 2023-01-31 00:16, Andrew Smallshaw wrote:
On 2023-01-30, Bj?rn Lundin <bnl@nowhere.com> wrote:
I'm very dubious. I tried using those 1.8" Microdrives perhaps a
decade ago. Kind of worked, but drives for the likes of an iPod
are very aggressive when it comes to power saving - they'll spin
down after a few seconds of inactivity, and then take a few seconds
to spin up again.
Is that within the drive, or is it the iPod firmware that requests the spin-down?
Did anyone here use an 1.8" drive with the Pi? Via USB?
Experiences would be interesting to know of.
On 2023-01-31 11:33, Theo wrote:
There were also these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdrive
but they only got as far as 16GB, which is a bit disappointing today.
Would be enough to boot a Pi (or thin client) for laughs, though.
Interesting.
I headed to ebay and got 2 6Gb. delivery early March though
6gb will cover my needs for this one.
Thanks
There were also these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdrive
but they only got as far as 16GB, which is a bit disappointing today.
Would be enough to boot a Pi (or thin client) for laughs, though.
I would expect performance to be absolutely, diabolically, awful :-)
Even the cheapest nastiest flash CF card would be a lot quicker.
But there's something to marvel at fitting a full HDD mechanism inside a CF card, even if the result is not very useful today. I wonder if you could replace the lid with a clear cover and watch it thrash...?
Theo
I prefer a hard-drive, since I think daily compilation of 1.2 locs
On 2023-01-31 00:16, Andrew Smallshaw wrote:
I'm very dubious. I tried using those 1.8" Microdrives perhaps a
decade ago. Kind of worked, but drives for the likes of an iPod
are very aggressive when it comes to power saving - they'll spin
down after a few seconds of inactivity, and then take a few seconds
to spin up again.
Is that within the drive, or is it the iPod firmware that requests the spin-down?
Did anyone here use an 1.8" drive with the Pi? Via USB?
Experiences would be interesting to know of.
they'll spin
down after a few seconds of inactivity, and then take a few seconds
to spin up again.
The drive's firmware so you don't have control over it.
On 31 Jan 2023 10:33:57 +0000 (GMT), Theo
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> declaimed the following:
but they only got as far as 16GB, which is a bit disappointing today.
Would be enough to boot a Pi (or thin client) for laughs, though.
In one of my photo bags is a small drive with rechargeable battery
(after all these years, probably won't hold a charge -- good thing the
drive can be used from charger plug). The unit had slots for all 5 major memory card formats of the period.
One would insert a card, press the copy button, and the card contents
would be copied to a (newly created) directory on the drive.
Problem these days? It is a 40GB (unformatted) drive -- and the camera
in that bag now has 32GB CF cards! (Maybe a few 16GB, but I think I moved those to the other camera [8Mpixel vs 15Mpixel], and moved that one's
8&4GB
cards to the even older 4Mpixel P&S camera [I'd been using a 256MB card in that camera, had a 64MB card for secondary, and the factory provided card
was a whopping 32MegaBytes -- could only hold about 12 photos!]). Could
only back-up one filled CF card (and you don't want to do multiple backups while filling the card, as each backup copies everything).
Presumably you would use the copy-from-CF-to-HDD device just for making a >safety copy while you are away from home (or freeing up space on the
camera's CF card), and you will empty its drive once you get back home and >save all/most of the photos to permanent storage. Given that, how often will >you fill up 40 GB while you are away from your permanent-storage computer?
They were/are a good idea: more portable than taking a laptop and maybe an >external USB hard drive, though a laptop does give you the ability to
preview pictures and determine whether there are any problems that may need >you to re-shoot photos. A camera's back-screen is OK at a pinch, but not as >good for showing exposure/focussing errors.
Can it take SDHC (the high-capacity version of SD) cards? Since your camera
uses CF rather than SD, it may not matter, but it's always worth having >something that cam copy SD in case you need to back up contents of a >cellphone etc which uses SD. I also carry around in my cellphone case a >micro-SD to normal-SD adaptor so I can read a micro-SD card (from a phone >etc) in a computer that only has a normal-SD slot.
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