On a sunny day (Sun, 19 Jun 2022 08:40:00 +1200) it happened nospam.Dan.Clough@f1.n770.z10700.fidonet.org (Dan Clough) wrote in <655657631@f1.n770.z10700.fidonet.org>:

Jan Panteltje wrote to All <=-

Latest Raspi 4 32 bit,
how do I give root permission to run GUI applications??
Somehow those seem blocked.

You don't want to do that.

Don't do that.

Wel, been root since 1998, also on older vrions for pi

But figured things out
I boot by default without X to a command line
Tried some things before that in the original version with xhost+
and now I can simply as root from the command line type
startx
I did write my own .xinitrc for root
chromium now only wants to run with --no-sandbox.
A lot of shit stuff now also is gone, like auto-mount :-)
Needs some more attention, but now my X has 9 desktops,
runs fvwm, xfm, 8 terminals, same as on all my other systems
zsh as shell..
Much much better than what the distro gives you.

Still work in progress

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On 19/06/2022 09:50, Dan Clough wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote to Dan Clough <=-

> -=> Jan Panteltje wrote to All <=-
>
> JP> Latest Raspi 4 32 bit,
> JP> how do I give root permission to run GUI applications??
> JP> Somehow those seem blocked.

> You don't want to do that.
>
> Don't do that.

TNP> Just set up a root login and run your windows session as root.

I wasn't the one asking the question.

Are you as big an idiot as he is?

I wasn't talking to you




--
I would rather have questions that cannot be answered...
...than to have answers that cannot be questioned

Richard Feynman

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On Sun, 19 Jun 2022 08:40:00 +1200
nospam.Dan.Clough@f1.n770.z10700.fidonet.org (Dan Clough) wrote:

Jan Panteltje wrote to All <=-

Latest Raspi 4 32 bit,
how do I give root permission to run GUI applications??
Somehow those seem blocked.

You don't want to do that.

He does, and I'm pretty sure he has a far deeper understanding of
the implications than you do.

Don't do that.

Why ? What do you think is at risk ? <hint>only what's on the pi
and anything that trusts the pi (probably nothing).

Now if you were to say - don't trust that machine with sensitive
data I suspect you'd find it was an unnecessary but valid warning.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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The Natural Philosopher wrote to Dan Clough <=-

On 19/06/2022 09:50, Dan Clough wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote to Dan Clough <=-

> -=> Jan Panteltje wrote to All <=-
>
> JP> Latest Raspi 4 32 bit,
> JP> how do I give root permission to run GUI applications??
> JP> Somehow those seem blocked.

> You don't want to do that.
>
> Don't do that.

TNP> Just set up a root login and run your windows session as root.

I wasn't the one asking the question.

Are you as big an idiot as he is?

I wasn't talking to you

You need to learn how to properly quote a message when you reply, then.

You replied to me.



... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Latest Raspi 4 32 bit,
how do I give root permission to run GUI applications??
Somehow those seem blocked.

You don't want to do that.

He does, and I'm pretty sure he has a far deeper
understanding of the implications than you do.

What makes you "pretty sure" of that? How could you possibly know
something like that? That's right....... you couldn't.

Don't do that.

Why ? What do you think is at risk ? <hint>only what's
on the pi and anything that trusts the pi (probably nothing).

Okay, so you're an idiot too. Got it.



... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
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Jan Panteltje wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Latest Raspi 4 32 bit,
how do I give root permission to run GUI applications??
Somehow those seem blocked.

You don't want to do that.
Don't do that.

Wel, been root since 1998, also on older vrions for pi

But figured things out
I boot by default without X to a command line
Tried some things before that in the original version with xhost+
and now I can simply as root from the command line type
startx
I did write my own .xinitrc for root
chromium now only wants to run with --no-sandbox.
A lot of shit stuff now also is gone, like auto-mount :-)
Needs some more attention, but now my X has 9 desktops,
runs fvwm, xfm, 8 terminals, same as on all my other systems
zsh as shell..
Much much better than what the distro gives you.

You're an idiot.

Well insults show your lack of understanding on the subject :-)

<SNIP remaining drivel, including "website" URL that is a 404>

More proof that you're an idiot.



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On a sunny day (Tue, 21 Jun 2022 12:20:56 +0200) it happened Ralph Spitzner <rasp@spitzner.org> wrote in <t8s622$q0b$1@dont-email.me>:

Jan Panteltje wrote on 6/21/22 11:22 AM:

The whole thing, including firefox, took about 500 MB to download for Raspberry (snap that is)
takes about 1 GB space on the SDcard... Then runs snapd..

Maybe I should compile firefox from source some day and run it a root..

1. you can install firefox as a regular application ( from a debian .deb for instance)
2 why do you need to run firefox as r00t ?

-rasp

Well apt-get install firefox did not find anything
but via snap you can install it.
I do notice Chromium is much faster as root
I am always root, I am the sys adm so to speak ;-)
I also always watch what happens to the system,
so if something strange happens I take action.

Why run as some user? All bullshit.

If anything messes up the system my backup SDcard is now 2 days old..
just swap cards
No important info on the raspi.

Now it works really nice:
I automatically boot as Pi to the command line
I have a new .xinitrc in /home/pi
so startx starts everything as pi
But if I type sudo su a the command line and then startx
the same .xinitrc is in /root/
and everything in X starts as root
Also the config files for xfm and fvwm, so same 9 virtual desktops..
Nice way to compare

Something needs to change, way too long boot times,
way to much crap running, things changed by people who do not understand Unix at all and have no clue of the hardware
resulting in ever more bloat..

99% of all this can be done with a few lines of code.
(I have written all that stuff, from this Usenet newsreader to email to what not)
Exception is webbrowsers, I gave up on that as the spec is changing ever faster,
mainly to accommodate more advertising it seems.

A multitasking OS is easy to write, done it in the Z80 days with just a few bytes of RAM
I design things with simple Microchip PIC processors that are faster, zero boot times,
more reliable, cheaper.. written in asm.
Published plenty of those on my site
panteltje,com
look for download link.

So, Do not feel like writing a new OS now, Linux does most things
But it needs stripping down.
Maybe.. I have an old 1998 SLS Linux on a floppy...
Maybe it would work..... you know Xfree days,, Before ALSA... Lynx browser...

Linux is dead?

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